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I hope Quinn wins the battle because I think he deserves a shot at starting.
But if the coaching staff decides Anderson is better than he should start.
At the end of the day, I don't care who starts at QB, just as long as he wins some games.
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j/c i don't really know why we have two qb threads now as the "who will trade for a qb" thread has turned into another qb thread. that said, interesting nugget (honestly, i doubt it's true since mangini has the place on lockdown, but still): Quote:
If Derek Anderson repeats his performance of Saturday night against a very good Tennessee Titans defense this weekend — a much tougher test — he might well earn the starting job.
The one consistent fact I've been told is that the new coaching staff was impressed with Anderson from the first day they started looking at film.
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/54613067.html
i know i've been saying this all offseason but, given how far along we are (going into the 3rd game with a "very close" comp), money still plays a factor into this whole thing. if there isn't any significant seizing of the job by quinn, it's just one more chip working against quinn because of the escalators in his contract language (ironically, the same thing that caused quinn to hold out for as long as he did). mangini is not going to just throw in another 7 million this year to a qb who is "even" with another qb with more starting experience. with that playtime escalator hit, quinn's salary goes up and makes him less appealing in a trade also.
at this point, i would say 55/45 that DA is our starter.
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heh, take it easy there ... that cut/paste is worded as openly as your average horoscope. Don't go putting too much stock into that.
Hint: Pay attention to the usages of "if" and "might". The sentence is pure speculation by the author.
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noted, but i didn't care about the first part. it's the second part that holds any possible importance. Quote:
The one consistent fact I've been told is that the new coaching staff was impressed with Anderson from the first day they started looking at film.
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heh, take it easy there ... that cut/paste is worded as openly as your average horoscope. Don't go putting too much stock into that.
Hint: Pay attention to the usages of "if" and "might". The sentence is pure speculation by the author.
yeah, it sounds like a roger brown article
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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players show their true worth/value on the field... so again...
How can you FIRMLY establish yourself with limited opportunities?
I would argue the old mantra "You practice like you play.'
If one QB is showing signs of improvement durring the week, is putting 100% into practices, and outperforms his competition; you play that football player on sunday regardless of who he is whether he is a rookie or a seasoned veteran. Durring the preseason if DA is performing better than Quinn at practice consistently or vice-versa, as a coach you factor that along with performance in the preseason games.
My overall arguement is that its obvious that Mangini is giving equall reps to all the QBs and giving them all an equal chance to shine. I've said it when we turned over the FO again, if Quinn cannot flat out beat Anderson this preseason and prove what many on here claim to be the no brainer choice for the starting role, he clearly isn't heads above DA as far as talent goes. Its seams to me that they both have skills the other lacks, and are extremely close in terms of physical talent.
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IN 20 days the game counts !
The dawgtalkers on this board have seen this pre-season before, everybody who remembers 2004-2006 has seen this before, what I"m talking about is not giving enough pre-season time to the starters before opening day.
There are 2 games left, Titans, and at Chicago.
Kenny Rhoda on WKNR I was listening to tonight said he knows what we get with anderson we need to see what we'll get with Quinn.
When I think about it whether Anderson is eventually the starter, ... or Quinn is eventually the starter ... in 20 days, YOU Have to give EACH quarterback an ENTIRE GAME and start with Quinn.
You know, Year after year, after year, after year after year, I listen to the post game show week 1 ( after a loss) and they make the excuse ... They didn't go with the starters enough in pre-season. So Either
1 Anderson is the starter right now today, has won the job, and needs the whole game 3 the most competitive game to get ready for Minnesota opening day. or
2 Quinn if he's gonna be the starter needs the whole game 3 the most competitive game to either sink or swim. Win it or lose it play well or don't. If he plays well he either gets more practice in week 4 for the opener, or if he is suspect then Anderson needs all of game 4 to rehearse for the opener.
Either way, Quinn should TODAY be named to start and finish the Entire game 3 home preseason vs Tennessee,
WHY Because Preseason is about YOUR TEAM not your opponent and finding out what you have. DONT DO LIKE ALL THE OTHER YEARS!
If your going to give this thing to Quinn, If he is going to have his chance to flop, or do well, THEN GIVE IT TO HIM TODAY!!! SO HE HAS NO EXCUSES. And if he gets 3 td's and lights the place on fire, then give him week 4 also. A whole game with no excuses.
You won't learn anything from putting the 3rd stringers out there, the offense needs all the help, ( practice) it can get, as a starting group.
Somebody needs to hold Quinn accountable and make their argument for him starting based on His play and not the bad play of someone else!
Todays the day to put the starters together, so there's no excuse in the home opener, ... and if Quinn flops, Anderson is more experienced at taking over game 2 ish.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I would argue the old mantra "You practice like you play.'
Please tell me I'm not the only one that finds it funny that a DA guy just used this line to try and knock BQ.
DA is the epitome of the antithesis of this saying. DA practices great, he looks like a world beater in shorts, he even looks great most of the tome in preseason with the vanilla defenses. But when the crap hits the fan and he has blitzes coming at him from everywhere and he actually has to read a defense his passes go everywhere.
The DA fans point to all the dropped passes last year as to a reason why DA had problems, while that can be a valid point, how often did DA put the ball consistently in a naturally catchable position? A good potion of his passes that were caught were low, high, behind, or way out in front of a WR.
Why does BQ have to "flat out beat" DA or be "clearly heads above" DA to win the competition? DA is the QB with more experience. He has had more time in the pro game. If BQ is only marginally better, why would you not go with the better QB?
The rest isn't specifically directed at your post:
Also I keep hearing about how BQ isn't all that accurate either and I'm unsure as to how some people come to that conclusion since he has only played in 2.5 regular season games. And IIRC he played the last 5 quarters of that with a broken pointer finger on his throwing hand.
Anyway, all in all it seems that if you want a QB that can throw it with the best of them, complete around 55% of his passes, an throw about 1 td per int. Then DA is then QB for you. He has been virtually the same QB since his days at Oregon State.
I'm not saying that BQ is Otto Graham incarnate, however if you are ready to dismiss him as a QB for this team after a whopping 4+ quarters of healthy play, then I don't know what to tell you.
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The one consistent fact I've been told is that the new coaching staff was impressed with Anderson from the first day they started looking at film.
Yikes, no way you can watch his tape and like what you see. If thats true, then we are in serious trouble.
If DA had even had a mediocre season last year, then we woulda dealt him. He was awful last year. Of course he wasn't surrounded by stars, but we are talking about DA. His decisions, his throws, not the teams performance. I'm not blaming DA solely, but saying his game stinks.
If EM picks DA as the QB, DA has to be great, from day one. There is no learning curve, DA has lots of experience, the fans are going to expect him to perform. Quinn will get alittle cushion up till about game 10.
This team is gonna struggle mightily, and if DA is in there throwing picks, he's going to take the brunt of everything fair or not. While BQ is gonna get some time and take less heat. EM is taking a huge gamble if he goes with DA.
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DA is the epitome of the antithesis of this saying. DA practices great, he looks like a world beater in shorts, he even looks great most of the tome in preseason with the vanilla defenses. But when the crap hits the fan and he has blitzes coming at him from everywhere and he actually has to read a defense his passes go everywhere.
So if DA performs better than Quinn durring the week and the results of the preseason is relatively even, the coaching staff should reward Quinn the starting job regardless of who looks better durring the week? I don't buy it. With all the hype and promise BQ was supposed to bring to the position, I'm not impressed. With 3 seasons under his belt to adjust to the pro level, the former first round pick should be silencing any talk of controversy and competition with his play. The reality is Brady Quinn will be just another average quarterback in this league, no different than Derek Anderson. Look at what a true first round prospect is doing in New York right now.
Play your best player, then pick who you want to build the franchise around next year. Next year's draft is much stronger at the position anyway.
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noted, but i didn't care about the first part. it's the second part that holds any possible importance.
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The one consistent fact I've been told is that the new coaching staff was impressed with Anderson from the first day they started looking at film.
Yes, and I would suggest that you take that at face value; don't read extra into it.
1. What else would they say?
2. It doesn't actually say much of anything at all. Were they impressed positively, or negatively? 
Remember: Coaching staffs and players, on average, are very well versed in speaking a ton of words without saying a damned thing.
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That all said, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning couldn't have done squat with what we had here last year...
Would one of them alone gotten us into the playoffs? No. Would we have been "better"? Probably.
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its not all the dropped passes...
I've kinda been alone in stating this, but...DA's concussion played a HUGE role in his terrible year last year. HUGE. He missed valuable preseason time and was never the same.
Its the concussion
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haha i see your point but i'd say that they wouldn't need to say anything at all.
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you haven't been alone on that and it makes plenty of sense. i just don't focus on it because people would accuse me of making excuses for DA but no doubt, DA's concussion and edwards' foot gashing played roles in how out of sync they were by the end of preseason. when thinking about that first drive against the jets, no less, and that td pass, they were going to be good.
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I can't believe how many hours and hours we've spent arguing back and forth with each other over this issue and still we are not any closer to resolving this. It really is amazing when you think about it.
I seriously do not care who is QB. Whichever one wins football games is gonna get my vote. If it's DA, I'll personally carry the guy off the field on my shoulders. I really can't believe how derisive this topic has been to the fan. base.
The issues for me.
1. DA practices great, loses focus in games. Killer arm, lacks touch. Can learnb those things, but hasn't.
2. BQ. Arm is only subpar when compared to DA. But it's not as impressive as DA for sure. He can get excited and overthrow (saw plenty of that @ND). He has only played a few quarters. Great team guy/leader.
Each has strengths. Each has weeknesses. I really feel like EM is going to pick the right guy but it has to happen NOW. Other starting QBs are gettng familiar with the 1st team and we're di*king around with this. You've had 8 months to figure this out. Make a decision and write it in figgin ink for crying out loud.
If it's the wrong decision, I think we'll know pretty soon.
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j/c DA was listed as a loser last week in the same type of article: Quote:
• WINNER -- When I spoke with Browns quarterback Derek Anderson during my training camp stop in Cleveland, he made it clear that he understood the reality of the situation he's in this preseason. He doesn't have the luxury of barely beating out 2007 first-round pick Brady Quinn in the team's QB competition, he has to make it obvious that he's the No. 1. Otherwise he's just playing to establish himself as a viable starting alternative somewhere else in the NFL, once his get-out-of-Cleveland ticket has been punched.
Either way, Anderson took an important first step toward reaching one of those goals with his showing against the Lions on Saturday night in Cleveland, leading the Browns to their first offensive touchdown in forever before exiting the game for good with a 20-0 first-half lead. Anderson wasn't flawless, but he looked like a No. 1 quarterback in going 8 of 13 for 130 yards and an interception in Cleveland's 27-10 win. If it's close, the Browns will still find enough reasons to go with Quinn in the regular season, but Anderson just proved that he's not going to make it easy for anyone to bury him.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/08/25/winners.losers/index.html?eref=T1
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i've been posting a lot today (slow day at the office) but foxsports has a great article on young qbs. it's long so i won't copy and paste it but there are certain excerpts are interesting, given the context of past discussions. Quote:
After years of struggle and occasional moments of triumph in Chicago, Rex Grossman is now the third-string quarterback in Houston. Joey Harrington, a former No. 3 overall pick by the Lions, is currently third on the depth chart in New Orleans. Kyle Boller, the longtime Ravens "quarterback of the future," is the backup in St. Louis. David Carr, the former No. 1 overall pick of the Texans, is Eli Manning's understudy in New York.
Heck, with the exception of Jay Cutler, the entire cream of the 2006 NFL Draft's QB class — Vince Young (No. 3 overall), Matt Leinart (No. 10), Kellen Clemens (No. 49) and Tarvaris Jackson (No. 60) — will likely start the '09 season — their fourth in the league — on the bench, waiting for their chance to make something of their thus far unspectacular NFL careers. Surely this wasn't how they (or the teams that drafted them) saw things turning out three years ago.
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"It's all about finding the right situation," notes Billick. "They say drafting a quarterback in the first round is a 50/50 proposition, but that's wrong. It's really a 30/70 deal — with the majority of them failing."
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Former Rams coach Mike Martz, now working for the NFL Network, says he used to make it as hard as possible on his young quarterbacks in training camp. "The key was to put as much pressure on them in camp as humanly possible," Martz said. "You've got to toughen them up right away, both in the classroom and on the field. If they can't handle the pressure of training camp, there's no way they'll be able to hold their own on the field come the start of the regular season."
Martz recalls his treatment of two particular young quarterbacks in Rams training camps of years prior: "With both Kurt (Warner) and Marc (Bulger), we put a great deal of pressure on them every single day, right away. We were very tough on them. I know neither of them had especially enjoyable training camp experiences."
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/9978952/NFL-pressure-cooker-the-true-test-of-young-QBs
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If it's close, the Browns will still find enough reasons to go with Quinn in the regular season, but Anderson just proved that he's not going to make it easy for anyone to bury him.
The upside to this QB debate as opposed to previous ones, I honestly feel like we are deciding between two potentially good options... compared to previous years when we were picking between the lesser of two evils.
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The upside to this QB debate as opposed to previous ones, I honestly feel like we are deciding between two potentially good options... compared to previous years when we were picking between the lesser of two evils.
Very good point DC but the choice of DA will lead to the loss of BQ for the Brown's. Can we afford that before we really know what he brings to the table?
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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Very good point DC but the choice of DA will lead to the loss of BQ for the Brown's.
That isn't what it means. It means Anderson would still be on a one-year trial.
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I don't think I could be any more sick about the QB debate than I am now. It's to the point where I don't even CARE who is the starter despite wanting to see what Quinn can do. It would be one less headache just to see one of the shmucks out there as the guy and plan based on that. Enough is enough.
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Very good point DC but the choice of DA will lead to the loss of BQ for the Brown's.
That isn't what it means. It means Anderson would still be on a one-year trial.
Great answer but what happens to Quinn? Does he sit back and wait another year for his chance or does he feel it's time for a fresh start some where else.
Believe me when I say if I were Quinn I would realize NFL life is short and there are other options out there. And if it was me, I would ask for a trade the second I was sat down for the 3rd time without a chance of realizing my dream with this franchise.
That is just me , maybe he enjoys watching instead of playing but I really doubt that! 
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I don't think I could be any more sick about the QB debate than I am now. It's to the point where I don't even CARE who is the starter despite wanting to see what Quinn can do. It would be one less headache just to see one of the shmucks out there as the guy and plan based on that. Enough is enough.
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jc. Would it be great if our only major debate we had was who was going to be 3rd WR I look forward to such a year. 
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Great answer but what happens to Quinn?
This isn't gonna be a popular answer, but who cares what happens to Quinn in that case.
If it's determined that DA is the better QB,, then so be it. But the real problem I see is this.. if DA wins the battle, he's still the guy that has holes in his game. So really, the next challenge becomes, finding the guy who can beat him out. In that case, DA is the man until someone beats him out of the job..
Isn't that way it's supposed to be?
But like the poster named Josh said, I'm rather sick of the whole thing.. I don't care who the starter is, never really did.. I just wanna win...
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Believe me when I say if I were Quinn I would realize NFL life is short and there are other options out there. And if it was me, I would ask for a trade the second I was sat down for the 3rd time without a chance of realizing my dream with this franchise.
That is just me , maybe he enjoys watching instead of playing but I really doubt that!
I agree. I'm hoping the Browns play him for that reason. We know we aren't going to be that good with Anderson. Why don't we at least give Quinn a chance to show what he's got. All he's ever been given are short preseason situations and practice.
I've seen plenty of Derek Anderson. In that time I know that no matter what, he will never be anything better than decent. I have not seen that much of Brady Quinn. While I know that guys can improve, even when DA went 10-6 you could tell that Winslow, Edwards, Lewis, and Cribbs were holding him up. And that was just giving the crappier teams of the league a wake up call about us. Against a bad defense we were killer. But once teams figured out how to play us we generally didn't do that well. That was about those guys that year though.
I think this year we'll come out better organized and prepared. Winning solely seems to be the focus now and everyone should be on the same page. I hope that Mangini can prepare our team and QB better against whatever team it is that we are playing. That was one of my issues with Anderson, he often seemed so unprepared. And he throws a lotta duds.
I just want Quinn, if he stinks it up, trade him and use Anderson until we can get someone new. But I know that Anderson isn't that good, I just want to actually see if Quinn is better.
If I was Quinn I'd solely be hoping the the coaching staff saw it that way. You go from starting in college since he was a sophmore? To sitting on the bench for two straight years. We only have two more years left on Quinn now, right?
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I just re-watched the first half of last Saturday's game.
Watch the throwing plays and see where the ball is delivered to the receiver...watch the QBs feet when they have to move in the pocket (NOT just running or throwing on the run)...pay attention to the pressure put on the QB on the play. Then replay the pass play a couple of times considering all three things.
My personal conclusions:
DA still cannot throw the quick slant...the short pass...or really anything that requires "touch". He had two great throws...and three awful throws...with at least two others that were behind the open receiver eliminating any YAC. If he has to move in the pocket...he still can't get down the footwork resulting in a poor pass.
Quinn moves well in the pocket and steps up in the pocket when it's there...his mobility goes beyond running out of the pocket or throwing on the run. He DOES seem quick to check down. He had two great throws called back because of penalties...one slight floater that got tipped...one a little behind the receiver (I believe Kosar said the pass was delivered in front of the safety as explanation)...and several very good, well-placed throws for completions.
Overall and specifically where noted above, I think Quinn looked waaaaaaaay better than DA...not even close.
The bottom line is that I have seen basically the same DA that I have always seen. I call him "Jeff George".
I saw Quinn doing the things he was touted for when he was drafted. I call him "Phil Simms."
I too just want a QB who will win games...I just don't see DA being that guy.
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I kinda feel more comfortable with Quinn also and for the same reasons you outline. I have to admit, when watching the game on Saturday, I didn't see all those things, But I watched it again on Sunday and then again on Monday (well, at least the first half) and yeah,, I see what your saying... Here is Bud Shaws take http://www.cleveland.com/budshaw/index.ssf/2009/08/manginis_patience_with_qb_comp.html Quote:
Mangini's patience with QB competition wearing thin with fans: Bud Shaw's Sports Spin
by Bud Shaw/Plain Dealer Columnist Wednesday August 26, 2009, 10:30 PM
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As far as Bud Shaw is concerned, enough already! It's time for Eric Mangini to wave his hands and annoint a starting quarterback for the Browns. For a franchise that has reeked of indecision for 10 years, it's the least he can do.CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Is a friendship ring expecting too much?
Eric Mangini's old team is expected to name rookie Mark Sanchez the starting quarterback after less than a month of training camp. The Browns, of course, made the engagement and marriage between Sanchez and Rex Ryan's Jets possible in a draft day trade.
The audible pining from the Browns fan base is not for Sanchez in particular, just for something, anything, resembling love and commitment to a quarterback.
It is late August.
A nod. Maybe a smile in the direction of either Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson -- even if it's just gas from a lunch time bean burrito -- would feel like the start of a beautiful relationship right about now.
Here, Indecision 2009 drags on ‘ith the underlying worry being that Mangini is so non-plussed about Quinn and Anderson that when he says there's no timetable in establishing a No. 1 that he might mean for the season.
He can only go by what he sees, as one Hefty-bag wearing coach in his coaching past was apt to say. Since he sheds little light on what he sees from Quinn and Anderson, we can only go by what we feel.
This quarterback thing feels a lot like when I used to ask a girl out in high school and I could see her trying to decide between saying she had to wash her hair that night and saying she and her girlfriends were getting together to rotate their shoe trees.
The public sentiment is that Quinn is a brand name label that should be worn on the red carpet Sept. 13 if only to see how he looks. Mangini seems to see Quinn and Anderson as different sides of a reversible jacket -- something you'd wear knocking around the garage but not something you could see wearing to a Super Bowl party.
Assuming Mangini acquired Brett Ratliff from the Jets with the idea of keeping him around, it would make sense to commit to a starter and trade the backup. Name either Quinn or Anderson, then trade the unnamed.
But if he doesn't feel strongly about his choice for Sept. 13, what level of permanence can the "winner" of the competition expect?
If he does feel strongly about his choice, the Browns still won't be favorites to win the AFC North, but Mangini should be favored to take down the field in the next World Series of Pok
Remember this is Bud Shaw talking...
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j/clicking.... I miss Diam 
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I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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the choice of DA will lead to the loss of BQ for the Brown's
I Totally Agree! If they screw BQ out of his last $11mil for taking 70% of the snaps by playing DA another year, He will probably tell his agent to" Screw Cleveland, Get Me Out of Here!"  JMHO Go Brownies!!!
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Petey,...you wrote what I think. I just want Quinn, if he stinks it up, trade him and use Anderson until we can get someone new. But I know that Anderson isn't that good, I just want to actually see if Quinn is better.It will be impossible to tell until he becomes the starter. Mangini will make the call and we'll live with it (or die by it !) I'm just hoping it's not so 'even' that he goes with a 2 QB system,....
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Oh I have a hunch he'll show up in a bit..right before the season starts..and start ripping cuze posters have been critiquing BQ...WHATS THAT sound?? That your keyboard catching on fire Diam?? 
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Oh I have a hunch he'll show up in a bit..right before the season starts..and start ripping cuze posters have been critiquing BQ...WHATS THAT sound??
That your keyboard catching on fire Diam??
I'm sure he'll be around to post his annual, "Come one, come all, its prediction time" thread, where he illicits predictions of the season, but never gives one of his own.
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he's sulking over on the official site or something after having gotten a 3 week timeout from here, he apparently decided to not come back.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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j/c Pre Season News Posted 14 minutes ago 9 Comments 0 Recommendations E-mail Anderson, Quinn to get time with Browns' starters Saturday Associated Press BEREA, Ohio -- Brady Quinn has a new home in the Browns' renovated locker room -- behind a pillar in the far back corner. It's in contrast to his role with the team, where he's front and center with Derek Anderson in Cleveland's quarterback race. The saga will continue Saturday night in the Browns' third preseason game against Tennessee, when both Quinn and Anderson could play into the second half. Which player starts, however, will have little bearing on the ultimate winner of the competition. Re-airing on NFL Network: Tennessee Titans vs. Cleveland Brown, Monday, 12 a.m. ET "I wouldn't read anything into that at all," coach Eric Mangini said Thursday. "Somebody has to (start), but the goal is to get a balance. That hasn't changed." Quinn and Anderson equally shared all the practice snaps throughout training camp. Quinn started and played well in the preseason opener against Green Bay, while Anderson's moment came last week against Detroit, when he led the offense to its first touchdown in seven games. If the rotation continues, Quinn would be in line to start against the Titans. Mangini plans to sit down with both quarterbacks Friday to inform them who will start. Both are expected to see significant time with the starters. "When you're unsure if you're starting or not, you have to prepare as the starter," Quinn said Thursday. "If you're the No. 2, that's still the same way you prepare. If the No. 1 guy goes down, the No. 2 guy has to be ready to go. Otherwise, he's doing his team an incredible injustice." Quinn replaced Anderson as the starter halfway through last season, but his year ended after just three starts because of a fractured finger. Quinn is in line to receive hefty bonuses should he win the starting job. "Obviously there's a financial side to everything we do with this job," Quinn said. "But it's not something you think about. We're compensated well. We're just trying to play the game." A day after the New York Jets, Mangini's old team, named rookie Mark Sanchez as the starting quarterback, the Browns' quarterback competition shows no sign of ending. Mangini has never indicated when he plans to announce his starter for the Sept. 13 season opener against Minnesota, and this week he didn't dismiss the idea that the decision might not come until the day before kickoff. Despite the uncertainty, Mangini has been impressed with how Anderson and Quinn have handled the scrutiny. "It's a credit to both of them," Mangini said. "Both have been competitive, both have worked hard at the things we've asked them to do. They've both been good teammates in the process, and I respect that. It's not always easy to be fiercely competitive and fiercely loyal to the team. I think they've been that. That's what you ask guys to go. How you deal with that situation tells you a lot about who that person is." NOTES: S Brodney Pool and OL Ryan Tucker were again absent from practice on Thursday. Tucker has missed two days, and Pool hasn't been seen since the game against Detroit last Saturday. ... "With rehab guys working off to the side, sometimes they do it inside and sometimes they do it outside," Mangini said. ... Don't expect the Browns to be featured on HBO's Hard Knocks as long as Mangini is in charge. "It's not really my approach," he said. "I don't think there's anything wrong with doing it. I think it's a pretty cool show." Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press NFL.com
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That would be stupid.
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