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"he's sulking over on the official site or something after having gotten a 3 week timeout from here"

not there....3 weeks

btw...just what is a Dolt

well if we're gonna talk about who we miss, i miss coachb way more than diam.

i almost hate to ask- but where is coachb -i remember his son posting on here for a bit when he was hospitalized but then never heard anything after that????

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i almost hate to ask- but where is coachb -i remember his son posting on here for a bit when he was hospitalized but then never heard anything after that????

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Apparently you haven't been paying attention......

man oh man.

Plus coach couldn't touch Diam. So Diam has a big ego, and like Quinn. So what? I have no idea why he was banned, but hope he gets over it.

On the QB tip. I like that both are looking good at what they do. I hope Quinn takes the starting spot, but will root for DA if not. Just want whoever to play w/heart and smarts

without discussing posters, i doubt diam was suspended for having an ego and liking quinn. otherwise, a lot of other posters would've been suspended as well.

don't know what happened to coach but i hope he's doing well. hopefully others who know him better can provide an update.

i'm starting to expect that we won't know who the starter is until minnesota, and even then, the week after, it could be the other qb. i know mangini said he won't play both but it'd be funny for teams to not know who our starter is until midseason.

FYI on Coach, he wasn't real. The whole thing was a fraud.

seriously?

If you want the CoachB details check here

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/535735/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

well this shows how often i was in the tailgate section before recent history. i don't know how i missed the thread though.

i feel dirty, lol.

And just think I got blasted for questioning that sad soul... People really put their faith and trust in what that guy was saying was true, but nothing jived with what I was hearing. He just seemed like a fraud to me, and it turns out he is.

The freakiest thing about looking back at that thread is that it was in March but the signature on all Damanshot's posts show his dog that died in June.

Just kinda freaked me out in a space-time continuum sort of way........

i can't speak for the others but i know i WANTED To believe because i WANTED to think we had someone on the inside who can get us info. oh well.

one thing i have learned - pdawg searches us and i better go back and edit some posts

I missed a lot in March then...That's when my mom died, so I missed all the drama taking care of her to the end.. Coach B was just always right and what he said was 100% fact all the time, He couldn't even add his opinions in... it was pretty much frauduelent posting to try and discredit anyones opinion that differed with his.

Not even someone from Camp Crennel would talk that much. He just had an answer to everything from the huddle presence to the jockstrap Quinn wore. It was over the top.

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The freakiest thing about looking back at that thread is that it was in March but the signature on all Damanshot's posts show his dog that died in June.

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Yeah that is freaky. but if you change your sig, apparently it changes it for every post you currently have anywhere on the board..

I don't know which way this thing will play out. I think it depends on what Manginis expectations are for the season. I woud have to think that he knows who he wants, but might see who sizzles and fizzles this week and wants to make sure he doesn't make a decision that could be upended by injury.

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one slight floater that got tipped...one a little behind the receiver (I believe Kosar said the pass was delivered in front of the safety as explanation)...and several very good, well-placed throws for completions.

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I'm glad you got all of that out of a 3-5 passing night. Quinn first pass was for 24 yards. That was an excellent play. His other 2 passes were for a combined 5 yards. One of those "well placed throws for a completion" was for a loss of 1 to Lewis. The other was to Furrey for 6 yards on 3rd and 11.

Forgive me if I have some doubts regarding your evaluation skills at this point ......

I'm glad you said it, I was thinking the same thing.

Don't doubt all with inside info. I know several who have it, and have proven so, including Versatile Dawg.

Here is what the coach is looking for out of the QBs .... straight from the horse's mouth.

http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2009/08/cleveland_browns_coach_eric_ma_3.html

(On what he is narrowing his focus on in the quarterback competition)- "It's the same thing that I've been looking for throughout this process, is the ability to run the offense most effectively. We've added different things as we've gone and we've talked about some of the things that they can do in reaction to not having the numbers to run a play. Okay, we don't have an advantage, in terms of the running game, in terms of the passing game there, and those are built-in tools that you have at any point. Then, as you game plan, there are certain specific things where you may run check-with-me's. We're going to either throw the ball, if we get the right box count, or we're going to run the ball, if we get the right box count. You call those two plays in the huddle, you go up to the line of scrimmage, the quarterback has to be able to assess and figure out which one we're going to do. That's always a part of the offense, and it's an important part of the offense. The ability to use cadence effectively to get the defense to declare. The ability to run a two-minute situation, or understanding a red area situation, what we're trying to get done. Maybe we're on the fringe and we want to kick a field goal if we don't get the first down. What you can't do in that situation is take a sack. What you can't do in that situation is have some sort of formation misalignment or a delay of game, because now, if you don't get yards, you're out of field goal range. There are a lot of things like that. We may be in a situation where, it's third-and-one, we're going to go for it on fourth-and-one. It's the same thing. We may call a play, it can't now be fourth-and-eight or fourth-and-whatever. You have to punt. There's running that play, but also understanding what we're trying to get done the next play. I know it's a long version of what you asked, but it's all those things."

C'mon guys, Mangini already knows who he's starting in Game 1. He's just enjoying keeping everyone in the dark. Especially the media.

There will never be a way to prove it unless he spills the beans sometime in the future but I'd be amazed if, in his own mind, he doesn't know who is taking the first snap on 9/13.

I got shredded over a year ago for telling him I thought he was a fraud! Funny thing karma

Coach a fraud..interesting...I don't visit the Tailgate stuff often so I missed that ...

I still find it amazing that he was able to perpetrate that much deception for so long. Amazing.. I went over all my old PM's to and from him last night. I had sent him a couple over some period of time inquireing how he was doing and he always responded with something medical related that sounded credible..

I'm no medical guru so the stuff he was saying was foreign to me. I didnt know if it was real or just made up..

I guess I am more concerned with making the RIGHT choice as oppossed to just getting the pick made. Both QBs have potential, with their own strengths and weaknesses.

IMO, with better receivers, a better D to minimize the effect of the TO's, hopefully some dangerous speed in the backfield to take advantage of opponents playing back for the deep ball, and similar schedule to 07, DA would make the better choice.

Quinn just hasn't impressed me. DA has.

Everybody complains about the Cinci game, the four interceptions. I remember that, I also remember the QB who got us into position to win with 1 second left. It was a good drive, and on the last pass to Winslow it looked to me KW2 was not where he was supposed to be, a couple yards short of the end zone rather than in it. Coulda just been a bad pass, but if DA makes that ONE play, just one friggin play, where is this debate now?

Or, take a do-over. Just that one play, which QB do you want?

At least it sounds like he has a thorough plan.. I always got the feeling under Crennel that we would run a play and then the staff would look at each other like, "Ok, what do you want to do now?"

And you know where we saw that most? After we'd have a big gain (which wasn't often, so that's why it stood out). We'd gain 20 or 30 yards, and then it would be Lord of the Flies trying to get the next play run.

Wow, I essentially quit posting on this site because of CoachB, I never believed his stuff. I was really sad to hear he had cancer, then to find out today he had another screen name.

It's..... a ..... m e s s a g e...... b o a r d......

Can't believe I went back and read most of that

1. I'm glad my opinion of Otto made a complete reversal from that day on.
2. That stuff from Woody? According to B his son's name was Jim - About Track and Baseball I think that was a scene from Jim Thorpe - All American.

Believe it or not my son was asked to do both - track n baseball but only during days there were meets and he had Baseball practice. He didn't want to do it. hehehe...yeah I'm asking people to believe it after B???

Still I miss Diam...grown to love his posting style - and when all is said n done most of his opinion written proved correct over the years. Of course David! David! David! is thrown at him every now n then

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Still I miss Diam...grown to love his posting style - and when all is said n done most of his opinion written proved correct over the years.

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Yeah, c'mon Diam, you gotta be reading this board on occasion. Get your bag together and get back in here.

I just talked to Diam earlier this week. He was going on vacation. My guess is he'll be back after that.

i'm not even trying to get into the debate, and the article this comes from was on the homepage Monday, so i'm sure it's been discussed, but i just came across it and chuckled...

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The numbers through the first two preseason games are pretty equal. Anderson is 8-of-15 for 130 yards and 2 interceptions. Quinn is 10-of-16 for 97 yards and 1 interception.

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so 53%, 130 yds, 2 picks vs. 62%, 97 yds, 1 pick are equal? only if you aren't using your brain. not a sample size that is trustworthy on its own, but sort of a microcosm of the whole controversy...you get more yds/completion with DA (and the big-play excitement that entices a lot of fans), but a lower completion % and more mistakes...

thank you and my point exactly why BQ should be the starter. We need to move the chains. Usually most of DA's work is done with a short field - of course all QBs work better with a short field but more so with DA (thank goodness for Cribbs in 07 ) - DA's wins are almost all against weak teams and losses against the strong teams, Why? Cause Good teams control the Field Position better - Good teams will force you more often into bad field position...needing the movement of chains...Not necessarily Scores on 80 yard drives. But even 2 first downs consistently in those situations will turn the tide of field position over to us.

DA is at his worst driven deep in our zone and way too often in close games Against the GOOD TEAMS we will see a Pick 6 here! On a short HIGH PCT. PASS no less!!!

BQ with his 63% moves the chains better...giving this team a better chance to stay with the Good teams and be competitive. DA will eat up the Lousy teams and Pad the stats and give ESPN plenty of Hi-lites. But just a tad over 50% accuracy will not get us anywhere. Its the same OLD DA.

JMHO

I didn't think the Devil's minions got vacation.........

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I just talked to Diam earlier this week. He was going on vacation. My guess is he'll be back after that.

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Translation: If Quinn wins the job, we'll never hear the end of it. If he loses, we'll never see Diam again........