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Many have decided that Anderson shouldn't be the #1 QB (and I guess I've reached that point too) so where could we move him? The days of getting a 1st round pick in return are long gone and most teams have their #1 QB in place.
But here's a thought.
The Vikings are obviously out of their mind, now married to Farve, and alienated Tavaris Jackson beyond repair. Likely they have to get rid of him and then also face a void at QB in 2010.
What I'd REALLY like to get from the Vikings though is some help at RB. And guess who they have sitting on their RB bench? Chester Taylor - a guy who showed some talent and IMO could instantly help the 2009 Browns.
The Vikings are locked at #1 RB with Peterson and Taylor isn't a big name that should demand huge compensation. Also, let's remember that the Viking's are really really dumb  .
I wonder if we couldn't work a trade for Tavaris & Taylor for Anderson & someone or something. Somehow we have to get help at RB.
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Just keep in mind that trades rarely happen at this time of year. They are typically around the draft.
DA will either be with the team all year or cut. I'd rather keep him as insurance.
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He's not going anywhere even if we decide he's not starting material.
We should have traded him and anything else they wanted to Denver for Cutler. You may think Cutler is a **** but he's a helluva QB.
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I like your thinking because it really benefits us. But I don't think I would trade Jackson for DA if I were the Vikings.
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He's not going anywhere even if we decide he's not starting material.
We should have traded him and anything else they wanted to Denver for Cutler. You may think Cutler is a **** but he's a helluva QB.
Let's see what you think of Cutler at the end of 2009.  Sure the guy has talent, but so do TO & Brandon Marshall - and I don't want either of those guys either.
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I agree,...Jackson is an adequate backup. They won't want to trade him away UNLESS they are flat out 100% sure Anderson can take over for Favre.  I know I wouldn't be. Now Chester Taylor has shown past interest in coming to Cleveland, but again, same principle applying, why give up my "well-heeled" backup RB,...what happens if Pete goes down,...etc.etc.
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The days of getting a 1st round pick in return are long gone and most teams have their #1 QB in place.
That's just one reason we won't trade him to them, or anyone not desparate for a QB. Likely we'll keep him this season and maybe try to move him next offseason once things shake out and someone feels they need a big armed, gawky QB. 
Another reason someone mentioned is that they too need a backup for AP.
Plus, they traded for Sage Rosenwhatshisname and promised him a chance to compete for the starting position. Now that they have Favre that's not likely to happen soon but they still need a backup to and if they thought enough of SR to allow him to compete for the starting position then they probably feel he'll make a good backup to Favre because Jackson won't be available since they've torn the very heart and soul out of him and who may now end up sitting in a tower with a high powered rifle taking potshots at random sunsabitches.
I like Chester Taylor. We tried to get him. I believe Savage had him signed to an offer sheet IIRC.
Naw, if we move DA it will have to be at a time more indicative of getting something for him. We could, however, rent him out locally as a farm hand. Dairy cows may not like it but he's got a strong arm.
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They are not even sure who the starting QB is yet. Just a thought, Wait till the competition is over and then play Madden GM. What happens if Anderson is named starter for the season.....Doubt it, but that would mean Quinn would be sitting for his first three years in the league. That does not speak volumes about his capabilities, it's not like he is sitting behind Favre. He hasn't produced or been given the keys his first two years for a reason. I would hang on to both for now, if Quinn starts and is average, you might just want to trade him at the end of the year and draft one. If he has a productive year and looks promising, you trade Anderson. We still have no clue what Quinn can do, which is odd for a 1st round QB in year three that was supposed to be pro ready. And what he has shown, is not even near enough to get rid of anyone.
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Quinn has only been on the bench for two years for one reason.
He held out in camp.
If he was in camp on time his rookie year, we might not even be having this conversation. Because if he was in camp on time, whe Charlie Frye got pulled Week 1 in 07', Brady most likely would have came in, and the great season Anderson had, would have never happened.
And if Anderson doesn't have that great 07', then Brady starts last year, and we aren't even having this conversation this year.
I'm not saying that Brady would be an all-pro QB right now, I'm just saying that his hold out in camp is the reason we don't know what we have, yet.
And to the OP... Player for Player trades are VERY uncommon. Don't count on us getting Chester Taylor, or any player for that matter, for DA.
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Didn't Bulger just get hurt again...although not serious? He is so fragile that DA might be attractive to them. (Rams)
I don't think the 49ers have anyone on their team at QB who they are enamored with at this point.
The Redskins don't have anyone of signifigance unless you count Campbell.
The Browncos could use another Brown...I suppose.
The Jags may want to upgrade their #2....same with the Colts (although Manning seems made of iron.)
The Fins could certainly use him as they are toast if Pennington goes down or his arm goes pffft.
And...the Pats cannot be "set" with what they have behind Brady.
I did not bother to think what they may have to offer us.
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So holding out two years ago is why Quinn hasn't taken over as starter? Is that common for first round draft picks? He missed a total of 11 days of camp and he was pro ready. He had the minicamps and the playbook. Think about it. A four year starter at Notre Dame with Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson to beat out. Not exactly Savvy Vets. If you want to talk about his Mechanics, Accuracy, and trajectory not translating well as a rookie, I think that is closer to the reason. I know Cam Cameron worked with him for two months prior to the draft, and was less than enamored by him. But then again he selected Ginn with the ninth pick, which wasn't exactly smart considering Miami didn't have a QB at all. But he did have Brees and Rivers to draw some of his conclusions from. Quinn might be a great QB for all I know, just saying up to this point we have yet to see anything to leave us any doubt. Holdout or not. And if he was that talented we would not be having this discussion either. JMO
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Tampa's depth chart has Luke McCown as the starter, with Byron Leftwich at #2. They drafted Josh Freeman. San Fran's depth chart has Shaun Hill starting and Alex White at #2, with the immortal Damon Huard at #3.
After tonight's game, I'd like Mangini to pick his guy and trade the other. Ratliff can be our backup.
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Those are all very good points. I think a combination of the holdout...RAC being a dufus...Savage trying to "pump up" DA's trade value...AND Quinn's own shortcomings are why Quinn has not snatched the starting gig for his own.
But that stuff no longer matters.
I do not know for certain if Quinn is " the guy". I firmly believe without any doubt that DA is NOT "the guy". So...what to do?
Most fans I know feel about the same way...and believe that it is time to move forward and see what Quinn has to offer.
I would guess that most fans on this board feel similarly...hence this thread.
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There is really no point in trading Anderson this time of the year. What if BQ goes down then who do we put in Ratliff? He's Ken Dorsey with a better arm. If your gonna trade Anderson the best time to do that would be before the Draft period.
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I dont much disagree there, because I think Quinn is a more consistent QB and a QB that will keep the chains moving more often.
But...I'd love to see what DA could do, if the OC's here would let DA play DA ball...The last two coaches (RAC and EM) are trying to make Anderson into a pocket passer that throws the short and intermediate routes when that just isnt his game. He's a slinger and can fire it deep and deep often, thats the game plan we should have with him, and I think if we did that, he would make this a very very exciting team that scores a lot of points nad has a lot of possessions and sure does go 3 and out a lot but its ok because they'll get the ball and go right back at it.
Anderson will never be successful as a touch passer...if we want to go with DA, we really should let him loose. Let him be the cannon armed QB he is and send receivers deep and deep often, and let our TEs and RBs catch the intermediate stuff that he has to throw when no one deep is open.
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Makes sense...however, I do not imagine that Mangini wanted Ratliff (in the trade no less) to come here to be the 3rd stringer.
Once the decision is made, the loser needs to be moved asap.
DA for a 4th and maybe 6th seems reasonable.
The 49ers and Browncos even need a "starter"...so maybe we wrangle a bit more than that even.
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I think your point is right on the money...being that we should play to DA's strength if we want DA as our guy.
The only issue I have is that we did just that in '07...until teams took it away from us and started making DA hit the "not so deep" passes.
Mangini has already stated what he wants in a QB...and what he wants is not the gunslinger type.
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Can someone post the presser where Mangini names Quinn the starter for the season? I missed it this week, been busy at work. FACT: We have NO IDEA who the starter is on this team. FACT: Regardless of who it is, we still need a backup! One play and the backup is now the full-time starter. That's about all we know at this point. I think we should be discussing who will trade for Quinn. 
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I'll give you 10 to 1 odds on $1000 that Quinn is the starter. Let me know if you want in 
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FACT: Mangini has said about a dozen times since OTAs what he wants in a QB...and that is NOT what DA is...maybe Quinn is and maybe he is not. But DA definitely is not. Back at ya w this guy More appropriate would be this guy  Not trying to be these guys   But this guy is my favorite 
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seems a little early to be shopping a qb. we went through 4 of em last year.
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Makes sense...however, I do not imagine that Mangini wanted Ratliff (in the trade no less) to come here to be the 3rd stringer.
Once the decision is made, the loser needs to be moved asap.
DA for a 4th and maybe 6th seems reasonable.
The 49ers and Browncos even need a "starter"...so maybe we wrangle a bit more than that even.
Careful there Willie...I said that same thing before the draft..and was called lots of names because of it.
I said at the time...trade DA for whatever you can get...be happy you got it......Make Quinn the starter...ride with him unless he gets injured....Quinn won't have to worry about getting yanked after every pass...as he knows he is the guy....see what he has......if he completely flops...you know you need to go get a QB next year......Go grab a mid level VET to be the backup...and see how Quinn does for a year as the unquestioned leader on O.
I was told DA is worth at least an early 2...and should be able to get a #1 for him.....and that I was looking through black and gold glasses if I thought any different.
A guy called into NFL Radio the other day and asked about who they felt the starter is going to be....there answer....from talking to the coaches...and watching practice...they see both of them starting this year.....that this competition will still be going long after the season has started.......If true...I think its a bad plan
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Whoever starts for us will go down with injury at some point this season.
I've said it before -- the 'loser' of this competition will end up starting for a decent chunk.
No need to trade anyone.
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Looking at the right side of our OL, I agree.. no need for a QB trade until before the draft. DA can be inconsistent at times, but I really don't want a repeat of last years bungles game with a Gradkowski talent playing QB. We know DA can play.
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There is really no point in trading Anderson this time of the year. What if BQ goes down then who do we put in Ratliff? He's Ken Dorsey with a better arm. If your gonna trade Anderson the best time to do that would be before the Draft period.
That's kinda the point in acquiring Tavaris Jackson in the trade. IMO Jackson has a lot of upside and I'd feel great having him as my #2 QB.
Seemingly both QB's are going to be better off with a fresh start in a town where they don't feel mistreated.
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I agree,...Jackson is an adequate backup. They won't want to trade him away UNLESS they are flat out 100% sure Anderson can take over for Favre. I know I wouldn't be.
Unless I've misread the situation, I think the Vikings will be forced to trade or cut Jackson. The upside for the Vikings is that they get a guy similar to FAvre in style and with a decent pedigree.
The real prize though, is Chester Taylor.
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because Jackson won't be available since they've torn the very heart and soul out of him and who may now end up sitting in a tower with a high powered rifle taking potshots at random sunsabitches.
I really do feel for the kid.
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Didn't Bulger just get hurt again...although not serious? He is so fragile that DA might be attractive to them. (Rams)
I don't think the 49ers have anyone on their team at QB who they are enamored with at this point.
The Redskins don't have anyone of signifigance unless you count Campbell.
The Browncos could use another Brown...I suppose.
The Jags may want to upgrade their #2....same with the Colts (although Manning seems made of iron.)
The Fins could certainly use him as they are toast if Pennington goes down or his arm goes pffft.
And...the Pats cannot be "set" with what they have behind Brady.
I did not bother to think what they may have to offer us.
I like the teams you've listed. I'll have to take a look at their rosters and see if any of them have depth at RB that could help us. We'd also need to get a legit back up at QB somewhere as I couldn't imagine Ratliff filling the role this year.
I'll get back to you after I check out the rosters.
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We'd also need to get a legit back up at QB somewhere as I couldn't imagine Ratliff filling the role this year.
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I agree,...Jackson is an adequate backup. They won't want to trade him away UNLESS they are flat out 100% sure Anderson can take over for Favre. I know I wouldn't be.
Unless I've misread the situation, I think the Vikings will be forced to trade or cut Jackson. The upside for the Vikings is that they get a guy similar to FAvre in style and with a decent pedigree.
The real prize though, is Chester Taylor.
All I have heard is how DA is not a West Coast QB....and that Vikings West Coast is the same on they were running in Green Bay.....Im not sure DA and Farve are anything alike.
The Vikings and Coach Childress run an off-shoot of the West Coast offense, based on accuracy on shorter passes.....DA has not shown much in that area...and seems to be more the big arm...deep ball type QB.
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Maybe....
But if I were to describe Farve's style of QB-ing I'd call him a guy that likes to throw deep and has a big arm. He throws too many INT's and can sometimes derail the offense with inconsistancy. When "in the zone" he stretches the field and forces the ball into double coverage. Not overly mobile.
Does that describe Favre? And does it decribe Anderson?
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I truly don't care who Mangini picks. I just want a winner.. Whoever coach feels gives us the better chance at winning is fine with me.. If he chooses wisely,, he'll be here for a long time,, if not, he'll suffer the same fate as every coach we've had since the return.. (I hate saying it, but it's true)
As for what to do with the loser of the QB battle,, personally, both have handled it professionally. I don't see an issue hanging on to both this season.. Besides, as others have pointed out, I'm not thinking you get value trading now. Unless someone losses thier starter and is willing to give up a ton to get our number 2 guy.
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Would you trade DA for Chester Taylor? I would in a heart beat. So turn the tables. Would you trade Chester Taylor for DA? No way. And that is straight up. You want them to include Jacksopn as well. No way do I see Minnesota making that trade.
Right now DA has little or no trade value. He was worthy of 2 1st round picks at the end of the 2007 season and his value has steadily declined. IMO the only way he gets traded before the season is if a starting QB gets a major injury in the preseason.
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There is no way your trade scenario works out.
First, Taylor is a more than capable backup, they are not trading him.
Second, Why would they want Anderson? What does he bring?
Third, Why do they want Anderson's salary?
Fourth, They have 4 QBs on their roster and won't have 4 come the beginning. Say it is Favre, Anderson, Sage, and Booty. Booty is apparently their guy of the future at this point. They'd likely have cut Jackson (easiest to cut), now they either have to cut their guy of the future or eat a big cap hit on Sage.
Fifth, what is wrong with Jamal, Harrison, and Davis? Lets give these guys a chance - we've barely seen them this preseason.
As far as who is looking for a QB? I say Indy (Sorgi isn't any answer), Jacksonville, Carolina, Tennessee, Denver, SF, and Washington are potential. Though, the odds something happen now are slim - it'd take an injury likely do get anything done right now IMHO.
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at this point, none of these teams will give anything significant for any of our qbs. if quinn wins it, DA has shown plenty of professionalism to be a backup for the upcoming year. if DA wins it, mangini will continue to reassure DA while telling the fans to shut up.
point is, if i'm any of the other 31 teams, i know that i don't want either qb.
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i would assume, at this point, that it now comes down to some dreaded "gut feeling".
Neither guy has distanced himself from the other in terms of play on the field. Both guys have had good days and bad days in practice. Each guy is reported to be a hard worker. Each guy seems liked and respected by his teammates.
Each guy has had a couple of good moments ... some "eh" moments ... and some "WTF" moments. Both guys seem to struggle with audibles, and seeing/understanding the defense. Neither guy has thrown the knockout punch to win the job in a landslide. Hell ... this thing appears to be so close that Florida 2000 looks like a runaway victory by comparison.
I don't think that either guy will be traded at this point. If the Browns FO was hesitant to do so prior to the draft, there has certainly been nothing happen that suddenly gives them a sense of (even moderate) security regarding one guy or the other.
I donl't envy Mangini his choice.
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agreed. i definitely share your frustration about audibling out of the run. i can only hope they were told not to do it at this time, since we play the teams in the regular season.
at this point, honestly, i think the choice can be pretty easy. it's just not the popular one. it'll be easier based on practice and next week's game.
i also think drafting a qb next year is, right now, a strong possibility.
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How do u figure it's an easy decision?? DA had a good game, but still showed the same short comings with any type of movement in the pocket, and BQ has had 2 solid but not spectacular games. I thought it was a given going into this week, but to DAs credit he played his way back into the competition.
I'm with Ytown I wouldn't want to be Mangini (if this is a true competition and not a dog and pony show), because neither guy has distinguished himself.
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simply because my opinion is, even if da is 75% the qb of quinn with the upside that he has, i'd pick him. that's jmho.
i also wouldn't say quinn had that solid of games. this game wasn't one and quinn made a couple nice throws on 3rd down in the last one but i don't think a quinn offense has the force of will that a DA offense has. sure that carries risk and turnovers but if the defense is half decent, we can overcome that.
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