DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum A "riot" if Anderson starts?

I just saw an interesting post on another message board, and it made me curious about the opinions of some of the folks here.

The poster on the other board basically said that he figures Quinn will be named the starter (and he's probably right)--- but *if* Anderson is named the starter, the poster said he would "riot". Then there were a few others that answered his post saying they would "riot" as well.

So that brings me to this question: Are (some) Browns fans really *that* low class? I find it disturbing that some people are ready to boo and throw stuff the second DA steps on the field. It's as if people would rather just throw the season away through complaining and espousing their negativity in general- and thus probably rattling the team to some degree. If DA was named the starter, I think there's people out there that honestly hope that we lose, lose, lose until BQ is put in. In MY mind, that means you're not a BROWNS FAN, it just means you're gay for Quinn. A REAL fan will root for and support this team no matter who is playing QB.

If DA were to be named the starter, the difference in whether he and the rest of the team does well could be how the fans in the stadium react. It would be sad, indeed, if the team actually started pulling it together, but then went south again because of all the negativity and descent from the fanbase. Not that people yelling stuff affects the team, 'cause I doubt they hear much of it, but insulting signs, empty seats, or ugly gestures could get into their heads. But I guess that's what happens when half the stadium is full of drunk, redneck, small-picture types.

Then again, if BQ starts and we lose 3 out of our first 4-5 games, those very same folks who were riding his jock will be calling for his head, too- and start screaming for Ratliff.

So how about it- if you favor BQ, are you gonna boo and root for your own interests over the team's the minute DA comes out on the field if he's named the starter, or are you gonna root for the Cleveland Browns?

As for me, I'm going to root for the team and support either QB. I don't have a dog in this fight (Vick-ian slip). Whoever Mangini picks as the starter is fine by me 'cause he's with them every single day watching every single thing they both do- and I'm not.

I'll support either choice - almost everyone here will, IMO.

I could really care less who starts anymore, kinda sick of all the " Who's gonna start and Who's not gonna start " crap. I just want the QB that gives us the best chance to win on the field.

I won't boo and throw stuff at Anderson.

I'll boo and throw stuff at Mangini for making that dumb of a decision.



Just kidding, obviously.

But, we really don't have to worry about it, because Brady Quinn is the starting QB for this team, and almost everyone knows it.

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So how about it- if you favor BQ, are you gonna boo and root for your own interests over the team's the minute DA comes out on the field if he's named the starter, or are you gonna root for the Cleveland Browns?

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I've seen enough of Anderson to know that he's not my type of QB. I will be furious at Mangini and will start to question his personel decisions.

And that is the truth. If another coach is fooled by Anderson's ability in practice so that they start him, over a guy who has done nothing but work hard and not get his chance (while Anderson has had plenty of chances).

So yeah, I wouldn't riot. Would I be pissed as ever? Yes. At least see if Brady's got it, then decide on what to do with Anderson............ Because it's obvious that Anderson doesn't have it

I've said for a long time that it's the Browns fans and the Browns media that are responsible for the poor play of this team. It sounds ludicrous, and it probably is, but I stand by it.

DA could come in, light it up for 8 straight games. Then, he'll throw one interception and the fans will boo and jump all over him.

To me, I could care less who our starting QB is. I just want to win.

But we could trade away DA and have BQ as our bona fide starter. The media will make another position their "hot spot", and we'll bash those guys left and right.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be critical and we shouldn't have our opinions. And I'm not saying we shouldn't be vocal about our beliefs. But I do believe that we are so eager to have a winner and we're so ingrained to have a letdown that we never let the normal course of business just go on its way. QBs are going to throw INTs and positions are going to have competitions. But we just jump all over it and then write it off as being "cursed."

JMHO

j/c

The only way I would "riot," or be upset is if these last 3 preseason games Quinn pulls away and clearly looks better, but Anderson gets the job.

If they play and practice as they have, not really looking a lot better one way or the other, I wouldn't be too upset. I think tonight is key. You want the starters playing together next week to get a nice flow, so he needs to really have an idea who he wants so they can play for most of the first half next week.

If it plays out like last week, we gotta believe Quinn will get the nod.

There is no doubt in my mind that if DA is named the starter...there will be a very, very short HONEYMOON period with him. He would have to win early and often. And even then without great success into a post season. The patience with DA will be slim to none.

Not really good to have that little patience...but actually I can understand. I would never riot but in all honesty I would be rather skeptical of the decision.

JMHO

Leave me out of this

I could careless which one is named

just pick a guy and stick with him...i see them both equal really

Quinn has a better short game, Anderson has a better deepball

intermediate passes i see them equal

Quinn is more mobile, Anderson is a pocket passer....I prefer the pocket passer, but im willing to give Quinn a shot if he is dubbed the man.

the QB really don't matter...we will win or lose the same amount regardless who is picked

Our Defense is the number one key to our success or failure..it rests on the defense

if they are sieve...3-13-2-14 could be reality

middle of pack 8-8

top 12...10-6

the D will decide our fate...not the QB

The D will have a lot to do with whatever success comes of it,...but I'm concerned about having a running, clock-controlling offense. That will lend itself to more solid defensive, and passing game, play. While I give Quinn the upper hand in this "battle," it won't make much difference (Q or A) if the O-Line does not play well and get the run game going.

Keeping the ball and controlling the clock while not kicking FG's is my hope for helping out the D.

On thread, I am not a "rioter." If he can, I hope Anderson takes us to the Super Bowl. I just don't see it/that. And if Quinn ain't it, then we're back to the draft drawing board,...Sam B, for example.

I'm confused about the DA doesnt have it bit. The guy went to a pro-bowl! That says that he has it.

The end of the year, and last year...were happening because they tried to make Anderson into a QB he isnt. When you have a deep baller, you dont want him to throw the underneath route all the time. We game planned to keep him throwing short routes. Sure the opposing teams planned on taking it away, but...when you have a guy that does it so well...why change it. Thats why he faded...we could have very much used the fact that he hit the deep ball so well to our advantage...but we didnt.

He went to the Pro-Bowl because someone else couldn't,...he was an alternate. And if I remember correctly, he did not play well in said Game. (Not that I actually expect anyone to play well that week after all those mai-tai's.)

And not his fault at all, if the offense had been geared to throw deep, who was gonna catch it ?

Let's establish a ground game to open up a throwing game, long or short.

And aside from this ever on-going debate, I am, first, more interested in Mangini being a real coach.

I won't "riot" but i'll admit that i will be disappointed if Quinn isn't the starter. It's not that i am a big Quinn fan it's just that Anderson has proven that he is not the answer, he's to hot and cold with his play, and we invested so much in Quinn that we need to see what he can do. We need to let Quinn be the starter this year and if he does well then we have our guy if he doesn't then we move on and acquire someone else.

I won't riot it DA is named started for the regular season. I'll assume that the coaching staff decided we have a better chance to win with him..

It's the internet - people can make dumb anonymous posts and not have to worry about the consequences.

I too would be disappointed, but I would be behind DA. I admit that I might boo if he throws 3 picks in a game, but I wouldn't jump on him for one.

No booing, it is classless, in my opinion. Now, I will definitely yell out an "aw, shucks" on that third pick.

But it isn't like SOME QB on SOME team somewhere isn't ever going to throw 3 picks this year,...

We KNOW Anderson can throw 3,.... Let's see if The Kid can,....

You are all of what, 22 ??,...I expect that from younger people.

not all of us are like that

hmmm it looked more like the fans were partying in the 1st quarter to me

Understood, but alternate or not...He still got to play.


My thing with Anderson is that he's started 25 games. QBs (and im using the Eli Manning math that was said for his career) get their legs and "get it" around their 40th game starting. Which interestingly enough for Eli the number was right after his 4 int disaster v. Minnesota. Thats when he got it and the Giants won the Super Bowl after that.

Derek has a season worth of being the guy to go...Eli was very inconsistent until he "got it" Thats what Derek still has to go...

I think he needs 1 more full season before we can say he's got it or doesnt...whether he'll improve or not.

He has the benefit of having struggled (which I think you learn the most from) and from having a year or two to learn before starting...but after this year...is when he'll have started enough games to decide whether he'll be good or not.


I'm pulling for him. I like DA...the snow slide sold me

1) Browns fans are never happy... We could win the super bowl.. and people would either want to cut this person, or fire this person...

2) Quinn will have to fail first before ANY other QB will be given a chance in Cleveland...

That is what kills me with Quinn. People have annointed him something he is not, and it could ruinanty chance of a cohesive team if Anderson starts. I will root for whoever starts, I will not boo no matter who it is. I think these "New Fans" and the Media have done an injustice to this team. When a headline in the paper reads "Quinn throws the ball 50 yards" and Pluto does a story on short passes and DA, this whole team is set up to lose. You heard how great Quinn did last week, but in today's paper they talked little about Anderson, how the team moved so fluently in there with him. It makes me sick. That's sad that they would riot, If two coaches felt that Anderson's ability is better than Quinns, maybe they should be coach.

There won't be any riots. That only happens in soccer.

But I do have a problem with anyone that says the fortunes of the Browns lives solely with the fans. That has to be the biggest crock of poo I've ever heard. The fortunes of the Browns lies with the Defense, Offense and coaching staff. Nowhere else. Period.

I also have a problem with anyone who tells me I'm not a fan if I boo, or make a sign or anything else that is not profane or violent. Fans pay their money and that gives them the right to voice their opinions as long as they are not in violation of the law or common decency. You're not a better fan because you never boo or complain. You're just a different fan than the guy than does.

Personally, I hope Mangenius picks Quinn. But if he doesn't I'll live. And I'll still go to the games and cheer for the team. As I have for many, many years.

Dude, everything about Quinn "kills" you.

Just saying.

I would say thier low class, but to me thier not really Browns fans either ...Thier Quinn fans which is thier choice, I dont care if Bartell starts, I just wanna WIN......Give me a Win and Were all happy

GO BROWNS

Don't care. Just win. If Trent Dilfer can get a ring, then DA and BQ most certainly can. Build a great defense, run the ball and don't throw interceptions.

doesn't matter to me either way.

it's new regime, new management, and if they believe it's DA who deserves to be our starter, than it's DA and that means he probably earned it. (for the record i think this battle is pretty far from over)

i don't believe in any of the talk that randy has any say-so in this decision, and i certainly didn't believe it last year.

as i said in another topic, i think brady's time has been horribly managed.

one series to start the packer game, then another series later on in the second quarter. then a few late series' last night.

never really any chance to get goin.sometimes it takes more than a series in a row and he just didn't really get that with the first team.

NRTU

Last year at the MNF/Giants game, as soon as DA took the field the morons in front of me started their "Brady" chant. They turned around to get me to join in----I told him he was an idiot and said it ain't happening so SHUT UP.

He did, and the stupid chanters never gathered any momentum, as DA had a great game. My bro wanted to beat the snot out of the guy---and while he certainly deserved it, I can't endorse violence over something so petty and stupid.

It bothers me when people start booing their team over "who they feel should start."

I don't think Quinn should start, but I am not assinine enough to go to the stadium to heckle our starting QB, and the leader of the offense.

How stupid is that?

Yea, I am a huge Browns fan---but we are here to tell DA that we have no confidence in him and get him off the field. DUMB. Those aren't fans. Those are belligerent wannabe coaches/armchair GM's/and overall arrogant punks.

I give out a big "get a life" to all the "Brady" chanters, and Browns "Boo-ers" that are out there muddling up what it means to support this team.

::end of rant::

Id rather Anderson win the competition and start and be our QB for a long time. I love the laser rocket arm passing game. It opens up the run and is alot more fun to watch.

I would have to say I would be very upset if Anderson was the Game 1 starter.

I need Quinn to fail before I watch Anderson continue to fail.

My biggest issue is that Anderson can single handedly kill plays all by himself. Great blocking, great play development then catastrophe.

I can't watch him throw 90mph lawn darts at the feet of players and I can't watch him touch throw shotput lob balls 50 yards down the field.

I just can't. I might have to get my life insurance in order if he marches onto the field vs the Vikings. I may have a coronary before he throws his first pass.

Bummer.

If you need to get your life insurance in order if Anderson starts you have some serious issues.

[sarcasm]I was dead serious.[/sarcasm]