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Would you want Captain Jack on the Cavs? Mike Brown loves him, but we would have a glut at SG with Parker, Jackson, and West. Golden State Warriors forward Stephen Jackson says he has requested a trade and prefers to be dealt to the Cleveland Cavaliers or any of the NBA's three teams in Texas. Jackson's wishes are rooted in a desire to play for a team that consistently makes the postseason, he says, something the Warriors have done only once in the past 15 seasons. "At this point, I'm 31 years old. I have four or five years left," Jackson told Dime Magazine on Friday. "I want to be in a situation where I can continually be in the playoffs and get another ring. So that's where my mind is at now." Jackson, speaking to the magazine in New York during a promotional event for a shoe line, said the status of his demand is pending. "It's not about a decision I made," he told Dime Magazine. "It's just things are in the air right now. I really can't get too much into it right now." When prompted with a question from the event's host about the Warriors' playoff chances, Jackson, who was attending the event with former teammate Al Harrington, told the crowd: "I don't think I'll be a Warrior next year. I'm looking to leave." Jackson has averaged 15.4 points over nine seasons with the New Jersey Nets, San Antonio Spurs, Atlanta Hawks, Indiana Pacers and the Warriors. He scored a career-high 20.7 points per game last season after signing a three-year, $28 million extension with the Warriors in November. Jackson said he would be open to returning to the Spurs but would also welcome a trade to the Dallas Mavericks or Houston Rockets. He also mentioned Harrington's New York Knicks. "I'm just looking to go somewhere where I can go and win a championship," Jackson said. Link
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Seems like a good fit.
But the Warriors are one of the worst run organization in the NBA. Something tells me they will do the exact opposite of trading Jackson to a contender.
Which means they will keep him on their crappy team.
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That would the biggest, most obnoxious 2-3 combo int he league! Jackson and James? 
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That would the biggest, most obnoxious 2-3 combo int he league! Jackson and James?
I'd tend to think they'd be more of a 3/4 on this team....idk...
I don't think you want to lock yourself into $28 million in salary for the next 4 years for a 31 year old like SJax, who, while better than Jamario Moon, is going to play a similar position, and is not far and away better...
I think the only way you see us pick up another piece is if an all-star caliber 2/4 come along....anything else doesn't really do much given the depth we already have.
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i would take jackson. the guy is a gamer, with this group, i think they could keep him in line too.
he wants to come to cleveland, he knows mike brown, therefore he knows what mike brown is about. which is huge. it's not like he'd be in for a huge surprise if he came here, with team first attitude, defense first attidude, he knows that and wants to come play. i'd sign him up. i don't know what we'd have to give up, but i would take him. he makes us better. doubt it'll happen but i love this, i love guys wanting to come to cleveland, i think that is a great selling point for lbj to stay. guys wanna come to cleveland.
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i would take jackson. the guy is a gamer, with this group, i think they could keep him in line too.
he wants to come to cleveland, he knows mike brown, therefore he knows what mike brown is about. which is huge. it's not like he'd be in for a huge surprise if he came here, with team first attitude, defense first attidude, he knows that and wants to come play. i'd sign him up. i don't know what we'd have to give up, but i would take him. he makes us better. doubt it'll happen but i love this, i love guys wanting to come to cleveland, i think that is a great selling point for lbj to stay. guys wanna come to cleveland.
Do you really want to invest yourself in that sort of contract for a 31 year old though?
I mean, let's compare Jackson to Artest, because they are very similar players in almost every respect. They are both chuckers, and volume scores, with great defense and on/off court issues. Except Artest is younger and a better defender. He's also getting paid about $3 million less per season. The only advantage Jackson has is that Artest is completely out of his mind.
I think you really need to look at this like it would be a signing, because you're locking yourself into a 4 year deal...you would give Jackson a 4 year $32 million dollar contract....so why should we trade to pick one up?
I think there's a good possibility that better/cheaper players end up available near the trade deadline. Guys like Gerald Wallace, John Salmons etc. What I still think we should do, is sign Wally Szczerbiak to a 3 year $21 million dollar deal with only the first year guaranteed. Obviously, Szczerbiak won't be around come midseason, with the only question being where he end up. Right now though, we're really missing a contract in that area which we can send out to get the talent that should be available come midseason.
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Another interesting thing that came up today....the Warriors are apparently looking to trade Monte Ellis (possibly to the Mavs) in exchange for mostly expiring contracts.....
I would definitely do a Gibson+Szczerbiak (S&T) for Ellis? I know Ellis is also locked into a terrible contract, but unlike Jackson, Ellis is only 23 and has the skills to become an elite player. If his ankle checks out, he would be an amazing change of pace 6th man, and meshes with the rest of our talent much better than Gibson (we already have plenty of 3PT shooting in Williams/West/Parker/Moon)
Just a thought.
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We don't need any more athletes in Cleveland who injure themselves on two-wheeled motorized vehicles! 
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i would take jackson. the guy is a gamer, with this group, i think they could keep him in line too.
he wants to come to cleveland, he knows mike brown, therefore he knows what mike brown is about. which is huge. it's not like he'd be in for a huge surprise if he came here, with team first attitude, defense first attidude, he knows that and wants to come play. i'd sign him up. i don't know what we'd have to give up, but i would take him. he makes us better. doubt it'll happen but i love this, i love guys wanting to come to cleveland, i think that is a great selling point for lbj to stay. guys wanna come to cleveland.
Do you really want to invest yourself in that sort of contract for a 31 year old though?
I mean, let's compare Jackson to Artest, because they are very similar players in almost every respect. They are both chuckers, and volume scores, with great defense and on/off court issues. Except Artest is younger and a better defender. He's also getting paid about $3 million less per season. The only advantage Jackson has is that Artest is completely out of his mind.
I think you really need to look at this like it would be a signing, because you're locking yourself into a 4 year deal...you would give Jackson a 4 year $32 million dollar contract....so why should we trade to pick one up?
I think there's a good possibility that better/cheaper players end up available near the trade deadline. Guys like Gerald Wallace, John Salmons etc. What I still think we should do, is sign Wally Szczerbiak to a 3 year $21 million dollar deal with only the first year guaranteed. Obviously, Szczerbiak won't be around come midseason, with the only question being where he end up. Right now though, we're really missing a contract in that area which we can send out to get the talent that should be available come midseason.
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that's why i said it won't happen. the money is too much, and i don't see ferry parting with any key players.
as a player, i would take him though. the guy can play, he has a bit of an attitude, but honestly this team could use a badass.
i think the cavs are pretty much set for a run though, assuming powe can come back, if he's on the floor playing like he should, i don't see this team needing to make a move. shaq is going to change alot of things. if he breaks down or powe doesn't come back, we may have to make a deal for a guy like jackson. we are going to need some kind of scoring.
i think brown is going to do a good job of managing shaq and his body, and making sure we don't run him into the ground before the postseason.
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We are pretty much setup to make a run anyway.
I think the loss to Orlando made everyone forget how good this team was. The only thing we really lacked was a dominant defensive presence in the middle when we needed to combat guys like Howard, Yao, etc. And we still put up a close fight against Orlando, despite their somebody-must-of-sold-their-soul-to-the-devil three point shooting that series. Now we have Shaq. We only really need him as a situational guy, and there goes a major weakness. We needed some perimeter size, and we addressed that too. Most importantly, our entire core from last year is still here. Our only losses are guys that would of been back-end rotational guys ... Wallace, Smith and Wally. The guys we replaced them with are upgrades.
The Lakers replaced Ariza with Artest, which is being viewed as a lateral move by many. Orlando blew up something that worked last year, and now only seem stronger on paper. The Celtic added Rasheed Wallace, but that's a pretty old roster they are looking at, that could breakdown at any time. I'm also wondering if they move Garnett to center now or does Sheed play SF? Detroit and Miami will be tougher ... but are they better than the other teams I've mentioned?
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i think orlando won't be as good. i think the cavs will probably come close to 66 but definitely not match.
the celtics are a question mark. they are an average eastern conference playoff team without kg, with him they are legit contenders. and we don't really know what kg is now.
the spurs are def better, but can they stay healthy?
i think the lakers are still the class of the nba. but let's see how motivated lamar odom is after getting all the pressure off of him.
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anyone see this recent piece on espn.com about where they think the top free agents in 2010 will go. they polled 52 of their top nba guys, and lbj is the player most likely to stay on his current team, according to these experts (some of whom may have been anti lebron staying in the past) http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=OffseasonPredictions09-LeBronFuturehere's the breakdown lbj - they bring up good points about what the organization has done. the points they brought up against him staying are 1, he may not win the title this year, and 2 he recently said his loyalty was to "akron" and he didn't mention cleveland (note: anyone who tries to decipher what he says into where he's going, you're dumb, really dumb, don't buy into anything he says) cleveland - 38 new york - 8 miami - 3 new jersey - 2 boston - 1 wade - i'm actually surprised chicago didn't have more, i think it'd be great, i don't think miami deserves a upper echelon player, because they have a horrible fan base. and to have wade/lebron in the same division would be awesome. 4 matchups every year? i'll take it, those games are always fun. miami - 35 chicago - 8 new york - 6 bosh - i actually see a little bit better of a chance of him staying because they have improved a little and they can pay him more new york - 19 miami - 12 chicago - 4 dallas - 3 toronto - 3 amare new york - 13 phoenix - 10 golden state - 5 miami - 4
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I don't see Wade going to Chicago....
#1 Miami can offer him the most $$$
#2 Miami is one of few teams that can afford to sign another max contract (Bosh most likely)
#3 Miami has no state income tax (a few extra million added)
#4 I don't think Wade or LeBron wants to have to compete for a division title with each other every year....winning the division still does matter and affects playoff seeding. Obviously, this is a lesser concern.
#5 South Beach in January and February is better than Lake Michigan in those months.
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i still think he's likely to stay, i just think there is more of a chance of him going back home. i don't know if the bulls are good enough for him to make the switch, although miami is pretty horrible too.
although does new york make a hard run at him if lbj resigns with the cavs?
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