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Still no QB decision; Tucker has arthroscopic surgery; four players released
by Marla Ridenour on August 31, 2009

Browns coach Eric Mangini offered no new information on the quarterback competition Monday, saying the evaluation process was continuing. He said he's consulted with other coaches, including Tennessee' Jeff Fisher, on how they handle playing time in the final preseason game.

Mangini may be debating giving Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson more snaps than is normal in Game 4 (when most teams play their starters only a series or two). But he must weigh how much he can glean from seeing them against the Bears' second- and third-teamers.

Offensive lineman Ryan Tucker underwent arthroscopic knee surgery last Wednesday, the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reported today.

Mangini didn't confirm the procedure, but did say Tucker would not practice today and would not play in Thursday's preseason finale at Chicago.

Tucker's surgery could leave the Browns with a predicament for Saturday's final 53-man roster cut. If Rex Hadnot (torn MCL on Aug. 6) is not ready to start the season, they might not be able to carry two linemen who are unable to play in the Sept. 13 opener against Minnesota.

The team must reduce its roster to 75 on Tuesday. On Monday, the Browns released defensive back Rod Hood, linebacker Robert McCune and tight end Nate Jackson and resigned offensive lineman Branndon Braxton. Braxton is a product of Youngstown Ursuline High School.

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I love Tuck, but I think it is time to say goodbye


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no harm putting him on the PUP and seeing where he is at after week6


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Report: Cleveland Browns OL Ryan Tucker released
by Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer Monday August 31, 2009, 3:13 PM

Ryan TuckerBEREA, Ohio -- ESPN Cleveland is reporting that long-time offensive lineman Ryan Tucker has been released by the Browns.
The Browns did not immediately return a text requesting confirmation. Tucker, a 13th-year pro, underwent arthroscopic knee surgery Wednesday, according to the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram.

Tucker was listed as the second-team right guard behind Floyd Womack. He left practice last week after struggling to get through a bag drill and hasn't been seen at the Browns facility since. The news comes on the same day that guard Rex Hadnot, who's recovering from a torn medial collateral ligament, returned to offensive drills on a limited basis.


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I hear there is a problem of having to keep two Olineman on the roster injured. If we have to choose between him and Hadnot, I would go with Hadnot. In the Lions game Tucker looked terrible. I watched him good for a while when he was at RT, and he looked slow and weak. He was knocked down several times.He was playing against 3rd teamers and being beat. His time has passed. Keeping him for sentimental value is foolish.

I like him as many others do, but he can't stay healthy...period. We need roster spots for players that can contribute, at this point Tuck can't.

I guess I was too slow typing, he has been released.

I'll be the first to wish him well in life, great guy, too bad time has caught up with him.

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Class Act....Great player....Gave everything he had to this team, when very few have, yes he was paid well, but Tuck is and always will be a Brown, had the drive but the body gave out, heal up tuck and do some hunting, enjoy you've earned it.

Thanks Tuck....

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That saddens me, he was one of my favorite players.

Thanks for all the years, Ryan.


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couldnt word it any better...thanks tuck


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Not shocked by this..Tucker was unreliable in the sense of his injuries..he can't even get through preseason anymore..it's time the Browns targeted a solid RT..oh well one of the positions we'll have to look at in next years draft.
And does Sowells have something on somebody?
Why is he not released???

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yikes...

I had predicted he wouldnt be a starter this year, but being released isnt quite what i had expected. However...hearing everything thats happened with him lately it's almost expected. Had this been RAC id say he says, but Mangini makes me believe that if you cant produce, you wont be here.

Hopefully this will soften, and there will be loyalty down the road...but early this is the stance that needs to be taken. So i'll take it.

Sorry Tuck...its been wonderful having you around, hope you catch on somewhere that will use you


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That's a real blow to the team. It's not a surprise but it's still a blow.

I hope retirement works out for him.


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but Mangini makes me believe that if you cant produce, you wont be here.






And how is this a bad thing?


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no harm putting him on the PUP and seeing where he is at after week6




Except that he's not eligible to go on the PUP.

Once a player practices with the team he becomes ineligible for the PUP.


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thanks. didn't realize that.

I wish Tucker well...when he was on the field, he was good.


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I don't think it is a bad thing. Makes sense to me.

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Man bummer.
Not too shocked.
When he was in,he was really the strong link in our O-line.
It was like night and day when he was in the game.
Like the Giants game. then there was the rest of the year.*cough*

I'll miss ya Tuck.


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not at all a bad thing...

just kinda why its not a surprise he's been released


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Sad to see Tuck go. At least he was able to win a SB ring earlier in his career. Best of luck to him!

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Hope things go well with Tucker.
I've always liked him.


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Good luck Tuck. By far the most consistent and best player (when healthy) we've had since our return. I was hoping he would be able to squeeze out one more productive year.

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Buy him one if you see him. Gave a lot of heart to the team, but age is an issue. Need a durable replacement; loved his willingness to get after it. Anybody standout on the wires yet?


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With more cuts looming, Cleveland Browns won't confirm OT Ryan Tucker's departure

by Mary Kay Cabot/Plain Dealer Reporter

Monday August 31, 2009, 9:07 PM




Before he struggled in recent days in practice, Ryan Tucker expressed enthusiasm for returning to the Browns and competing for a starting spot. Monday, the veteran offensive lineman was reportedly cut from the team.


BEREA, Ohio -- Browns offensive lineman Ryan Tucker, who battled back from hip and knee surgeries last season to try and return for a 13th year in 2009, reportedly has been released by the team -- though his name did not appear on the list of NFL transactions Monday.

The Browns, who need to trim three more players Tuesday to get their roster down to 75, declined to confirm the WKNR AM/850 report.

Tucker, who underwent arthroscopic knee surgery last Wednesday, according to the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram, struggled to get through a bag drill two days before that and hasn't been seen around the facility since.

Tucker was listed at second-team right guard behind Floyd Womack. He also worked some at right tackle, where he started for most of his seven seasons with the Browns.

In his most recent preseason game against Detroit, Tucker was on the field in the fourth quarter with fourth- and fifth-team players. Still, he was determined to play this season and was believed to be upset when the Browns let him go.

Tucker admitted early in camp that he contemplated retiring after the June minicamp. But he recommitted himself to the game and said he had no plans of walking away.

During minicamp, Tucker said he was grateful for the opportunity to continue playing.

"Nothing's really given to you at this level by any means," he said. "You realize how important and how much fun this is. It's everything to me."

At the time, he said he still had plenty left.

"I'm enjoying myself," Tucker said in the early days of camp. "I'm with my teammates, we've got a whole new crew, all new excitement and I'm in a good place right now."

"Physically I'm still as strong, and I'm just as quick," Tucker said. "My weight's still good, and I'm better looking," he added, laughing.

Tucker's tumultuous career with the Browns included missing time in 2006 because of an emotional disorder and being suspended for four games in 2007 because of steroid use.

"All that stuff is very humbling," he said in May. "The man upstairs has a great way of putting you in your place, regardless of whatever challenge or obstacles you may have. The bottom line is that this is what I do, and I'm going to do it as long as I can or until I'm told that I can't -- and I'm not there yet."

Tucker was excited about the new regime and the direction of the team.

"I'm enjoying myself, I'm with my teammates, we've got a whole new crew, all new excitement and I'm in a good place right now," he said.

The news of Tucker's release came on the same day that guard Rex Hadnot, who's recovering from a torn medial collateral ligament, returned to offensive drills on a limited basis. He took reps at both left and right guard but was held out of team drills.



Pool, Harrison back:

Safety Brodney Pool and running back Jerome Harrison both returned to practice Monday after missing time with injuries.

Pool, who suffered a possible concussion in the Detroit game, participated in team drills. It was the first time he's been seen outside with the team since the Aug. 22 game. The Browns have not confirmed that he suffered a concussion, which would've been his fourth since 2005.

Harrison returned to action wearing a brace on his left knee and also participated in 11-on-11s, although players were in shorts and shells. Harrison has been mostly idle the past three weeks but played sparingly in the Green Bay game Aug. 15.

"It's been killing me not being out there," said Harrison. "It's always good to go through camp with your teammates, and seeing them out there working so hard has been really tough. But it's part of the game."

Harrison, who was slated for some playing time this season behind Jamal Lewis, said he's tried not to get down about the setback. In his absence, rookie James Davis has made a case for reps.

"You've got to accept things for what they are," Harrison said. "I've just been paying attention in the classroom. It's frustrating at times, but I've got good teammates and stuff like that."

Asked if he can pick up where he left off, he said, "I wish it was that easy."

He said his unspecified injury did not require surgery.

Can he still have a breakout year?

"We'll see," Harrison said.



Hood released:

The Browns released seventh-year cornerback Rod Hood, signed as a free agent in May. Hood, who started 30 games over the past two seasons for Arizona, including last season's Super Bowl, struggled in the Titans game Saturday night, giving up a 6-yard touchdown pass to Justin Gage. Hood admitted he still was adjusting to the Browns' scheme.

The Browns also released tight end Nate Jackson, a seventh-year pro, and linebacker Robert McCune, a fourth-year pro. Both were signed as free agents. They re-signed offensive lineman Branndon Braxton, a Youngstown native and a rookie out of Oklahoma.



Mangini delivers:

In the middle of praising Robaire Smith on Monday, Eric Mangini told the story of how he returned to the team hotel late one night during camp only to find a pizza deliveryman headed to Smith's room. Mangini decided to handle the chore himself and knocked on Smith's door.

"The frustrating part from my side was that he didn't tip me and he didn't offer me any," Mangini said with a smile. "The least he could do was one of the two. I appreciate pizza."

Smith said Mangini texted him 10 minutes later, telling him what a bad tipper he was and how rude he was not to share.

"But it wasn't just for me," Smith said with a laugh. "I couldn't just give away everybody's stuff. When I opened the door, I was shocked. I almost shut my door back. But it was a time in camp where I needed a little laugh, and he gave me that for a few days."


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and this is how it should be, This is the nature of the NFL, Loyalty is for fans in sports, not players, it's a buisness for them....Do you think they would be loyal to us if whenthier contract is up the money wasnt here....Nope they would and are gone to the highest bidder, loyalty is a thing of the past.

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This move (Tucker) is really like a version of baseball's disabled list.

No other team will pick him up...if he heals up and is good to go, we can always bring him back. (Not saying I think that will happen.)

We still have the chance to bring him back and he does not take a roster spot while we figure it all out.

It really makes a lot of sense whether Tuck is "finished" or not.

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Tucker was a great pickup and player for us. Thanks for the efforts, Tuck.

Having said that, he's done, finished, kaput. An NFL body only has so many hits in it, and Tucker hit that limit a couple of years ago. It's best to let him go off into the next phase of his life so that we can focus on the reliable players on the team.


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Tuck was placed on I.R.

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FYI, according to the main page, Tucker was placed on IR, not cut.

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That is correct.

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So he's not gone. Don't see how's he gonna much better next year though, only one year older.

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Well...he is likely really done then...I see this as a way for us to pay him one last year.

Now I too doubt he can come back.

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"four players released"

Then Ridnour proceeds to name only 3 cut...Hood, McCune and Jackson.

Who is the 4th???

I know we now have traded Louis Leonard to the Panthers - and of course as mentioned put Tucker on the IR...to either retire next year or give it one last chance but he should be 100% and ready by then which I cannot say as much for his return last season (one great game vs. the Giants) and his comeback this season.

I believe we still must cut/trade 2 more to get to 75...as I did not count Stallworth who is listed on our roster.

JMHO - class act with Tucker and I'm glad he's getting his due for the season and a rehab with our staff!


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Well, they could still reach an injury settlement with Tucker, release him and then sign him back later in the season, I believe.

So it's possible he could still see the field this year.


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