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I also see Mangini continuing to upset media & fans who think they need to be told everything.
Davis will be the starter bye week 10 and we will see if he's the real thing or do we need to draft a RB next year.
BE will have a excellent year, common it's contract year dont they all.
Quinn will settle in and be our QB, no matter who starts week 1
Our defence will be alot, alot better.
Mangini will also upset alot of people on this board bye letting Harrison go befor ethe season opens.
We will be in 7 of the 9 games we lose to the end, only to come up short.
We will beat Pittsburgh this year once.
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MINNESOTA VIKINGS WIN
@ Denver Broncos LOSS
@ Baltimore Ravens LOSS
CINCINNATI BENGALS WIN
@ Buffalo Bills WIN
@ Pittsburgh Steelers LOSS
GREEN BAY PACKERS LOSS
@ Chicago Bears WIN
BALTIMORE RAVENS LOSS
@ Detroit Lions WIN
@ Cincinnati Bengals LOSS
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS LOSS
PITTSBURGH STEELERS LOSS
@ Kansas City Chiefs LOSS
OAKLAND RAIDERS WIN
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS WIN
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You have us beating the vikings but losing to the chiefs and broncos? 
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6) if mangini doesn't do something about our oline depth in the next couple days i won't be as confident. fraley, undrafted rookie trautwein, and a hurt hadnot? really? something must be in the works.
That is one of the main reasons I'm in the less than .500 crowd.
What if Heiden gets hurt and Vickers gets hurt? No two tight end sets and if one of the starting OL go down at the same time look for Bernie Kosar to get a call around week 10!
Our safety depth is frightening as is the LB corps.
If there are no injuries and the ball bounces our way I can see a 10 win season.I'm not that confident that will happen.
Kokinis better get Pashos or Holy Joe Toledo or we are screwed.
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My predictions {the optimistic version...}
Game 1: Minnesota: WIN {1-0}
Game 2: @ Denver: WIN {2-0}
Game 3: @ Baltimore: Loss {2-1}
Game 4: Cincinnati: WIN {2-2}
Game 5: @ Buffalo: WIN {3-2}
Game 6: @ Pittsburgh: Loss {3-3}
Game 7: Green Bay: Loss {3-4}
Game 8: @ Chicago: WIN {4-4}
Game 9: Baltimore: WIN {5-4}
Game 10: @ Detroit: Do I even have to say it? {6-4}
Game 11: @ Cincinnati: WIN {7-4}
Game 12: San Diego: Loss {7-5}
Game 13: Pittsburgh: Loss {7-6}
Game 14: @ Chiefs: WIN {8-6}
Game 15: Raiders: WIN {9-6}
Game 16: Jaguars: Loss {9-7}
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That is one of the main reasons I'm in the less than .500 crowd.
What if Heiden gets hurt and Vickers gets hurt? No two tight end sets and if one of the starting OL go down at the same time look for Bernie Kosar to get a call around week 10!
my understanding was for the TEs to get some reps at H-back and hence we didn't need another FB. we are carrying 5 backs currently i think.
Our safety depth is frightening as is the LB corps.
smith and floyd were signed, and the vets brought in were shown the door when they failed to perform. i like what has been happening here.
If there are no injuries and the ball bounces our way I can see a 10 win season.I'm not that confident that will happen.
Kokinis better get Pashos or Holy Joe Toledo or we are screwed.
pashos signed with 49ers. don't know about toledo. they put a claim in on o'callahan but he got scooped.
of course you're right about things depending on injury, and that is one of the reasons this team looks to have a lot of hope. there just aren't very many right now (knocking on wood).
ddub posted all the injuries the browns has sustained at this point last year and it was really, really bad. THIS year's team is relatively healthy, more talented top to bottom, will be better coached, and has an easier schedule.
i think some OL plan has to be hatching in mangini's secret volcano lair.
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I always wondered if Diam hasnt been around because "HIS BOY" has yet to take the QB job by the horns. I think Quinn gives the team a better chance without Andersons boneheaded plays and he cant thrwo a pass UNDER 10 yards. But we might not see him until "his boy" wins some games on his own.
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Diam is not here because he got pissed off about being banned from the board.......has nothing to do with waiting for a "I told you so. Although knowing Diam he'll be happy to tell you he told you so..lol.
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All in all, I see an improvement in wins for a couple reasons. 1)Better coaching should lead to 1 or 2 more wins. Less penalties, better game management (knowing when to challenge, kick field goals, call timeouts, etc.) Also, we should players who play well get more playing time (Harrison, Cribbs, Davis.) 2) Softer schedule (AFC West instead of AFC south, NFC North instead of NFC East, last place teams instead of 2nd place teams.) 3) We are already healthier. Last year at this point Anderson already had a concussion, Edwards missed lots of training camp pre-season due to his cut foot, and I think Stallworth had already been hurt 7 or 8 times. It seems like I am missing some injuries as well. 4) Better talent. - Last year we had Syndric Steptoe start 5 games for us at wide receiver. This year we have 5 capable WR's (Edwards, Furrey, Cribbs, Robiske, and Massaquoi.) - Our D-Line was injured and shallow. This year we are 6 deep on the D-Line (Rogers, Rubin, Smith, Williams, Coleman, Mosely.) - Our linebackers should be improved. D'Qwell Jackson is a top 5 middle linebacker according to some people*. Alex Hall has another year under his belt. And Wimbley is Wimbley, he can't get any worse can he (CAN HE?) Also, Barton will bring veteran experience. And we also have a couple young guys that will improve throughout the season (Veikune, Maiava.) Last year Willie McGinest started 14 games for us and Andra Davis started 14. Barton and Hall/Bowens will be major upgrades. - Improved QB play. Our situation couldn't get much worse last year. Our worst nightmares came true when both Anderson and Quinn went down. Ken freaking Dorsey and Bruce freaking Gradkowski started games for us a QB last year. - Better running backs. Lewis will get less carries, a good thing, it will keep him fresher towards the end of games, and towards the end of the season. And Davis/Harrison will get more carries. This is called "addition by subtraction." Overall, we should get at least two more wins from better coaching alone. Throw in better all around talent and easier schedule and we should show a marked improvement. *This from FootballOutsiders... Quote:
At Football Outsiders, we classify a tackle as a "stop" if the ball carrier is stopped well short of first-down yardage: a three-yard gain on first-and-10, a one-yard stop on third-and-2, and so on. Jackson finished second in the NFL to Steelers linebacker James Farrior in stops last year. With three interceptions and six passes defensed to go with a league-best 106 tackles against the run, Jackson can do a little of everything. If Eric Mangini can turn the Browns' defense around, Jackson will start to get the attention he deserves.
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Something so many seem eager to dismiss is the fact that this team has talent and we have upgraded that talent.
That whole post is excellent Mourg.
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6-10 unless we surprise a team or two. I think that the ceiling is 8-8 and the floor is 3-13.
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Something so many seem eager to dismiss is the fact that this team has talent and we have upgraded that talent.
RT and TE along with depth at the line is a concern but it isnt comet impact type of concern either.
There is talent on this team but not enough at LB, safety,OL and TE. We are about 6-7 players short of having good balance throughout the team. This can be corrected in the offseason with any luck.
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the lack of depth at TE and OL is at comet impact concern.
Tucker and Weary are lost for the season and Hadnot is not healed completely.Heiden is coming off an injury and if Vickers goes down Rucker will need to take his place.
If one starter goes down on the OL the comet will darken the skies. The TE will need to stay in to block and the opposing defense will bring 8 into the box. The Browns will average 3 yards per carry and the defense will be on the field for 45 minutes a game. Sound familiar? 
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If one starter goes down on the OL the comet will darken the skies. The TE will need to stay in to block and the opposing defense will bring 8 into the box. The Browns will average 3 yards per carry and the defense will be on the field for 45 minutes a game. Sound familiar?
What if none of this happens?
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.Heiden is coming off an injury and if Vickers goes down Rucker will need to take his place.
Hopefully Ali doesnt get picked up for our sake because if Vickers goes down, they will bring Ali back before they put Rucker back there. I wouldnt want a receiving TE from Mizzu as an H-back. Missouri TEs arent known for their blocking and H-backs need to be good blockers (Cooley, Wycheck). I use to like Shea until they put him in at H-back He was horrible. He was supposed to be a lead blocker and it almost looked intentional that he would whiff on the first block. I especially remember this against Baltimore. Ray Lewis would run right past him untouched for a negative rush. Like Shea was scarred to block Leiws with a running start. He wasnt even a speed bump trying to block LBs from the H-back position
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Be gentle; haven't done this before. LOL Saint, say hi to the Diam when you two see each other. I feel better than I have with RAC. I predict a fairly strong finish if A) we stay healthy and B) Favre is not our QueBee at then end of the season. The front end is tough. Bard Swami sez: 1) A return to the past, we split with Pukesburg, winning here. 2) We surprise three opponents, winning barely but they count. 3) We drop two absolute hair trashing, moan all day Monday games due to hard luck and dumb (but we learn from it). 4) 8 and 8. IF we play .500 or better, it will be due to fewer injuries, BE stops playing dropsy, and we get some pressure regularly, enough to be game changing. Injuries bite us, shave it by a third. 5) We will finish higher than last, stats will improve remarkably, and we will win more games than the ...-eyed ESPN and SI predictions I hear about. 6) In a flagrantly random act of deviant chaos theory, we back into the playoffs AND win one as the result of the blind-eyed and giggling Great Goddess of Pigskin who drops a few breaks in the Good Guys' laps threads up this season. If none of this comes true, it was written by some callous geek who hijacked me Mac; if any or much of it comes true, there will be barrages of I told you so for weeks. Go Browns!  
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If one starter goes down on the OL the comet will darken the skies. The TE will need to stay in to block and the opposing defense will bring 8 into the box. The Browns will average 3 yards per carry and the defense will be on the field for 45 minutes a game. Sound familiar?
What if none of this happens?
I'm not hoping it happens just to say " I told you so". But if everyone stays healthy and the OL improves from last year the Browns just might squeak out a 9 win season.
The FO could still get a decent back-up or two off waivers or maybe even arrange a trade. There are only 8 OL and 6 on the practice squad for a reason.
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IMO the right side of our O-line is pitiful and it's not going to be easy running to that side. I think we start Brady and that lack of a right side is going to take away from some of the tools he's gonna need to win.
On defense, much of what happens to us depends on 2 things..
Our LB's absolutely have to show up, Kam needs to turn it around, Hall needs to step up DQ can keep on doing what he's done so far. LB's are the key to a 3-4 and we need these guys to step it up in a big way.
The beast that we call Shaun Rogers needs to be healthy and we need to find an effective rotation with him and Rubin so that we maintain the pressure on Olines.
I think the schedule is gonna be a painful one.. it's fairly front loaded with tough games early and easy ones later on in the season.
I agree with most of this.
I think the Browns pull out a 7-9 OR a 9-7 season this year with if they manage 2 wins over the Ratbirds and eek one out over Pukesburgh.
Linebackers
I think that Veikune (sp) is a big project.
Kam still only has one move....er ... sorta.
Also I thought we should have kept McCume (sp)
But I like what I see out of Maiava.
Granted I only saw him with the 2's and 3's but he does not look lost out there and reminds me of a young Seau. 
O_line run blocking is horrible.It looks like it is going to be a long year for the running game.
We will be throwing alot of screens. Which beats the few we were throwing before. 
Quinn will do well with better legs and pocket presence than DA.
It is also my opinion that BE is still going to continue his slump. I hope not for our sake.
But I find it unsettleing that the balls he has caught as of late have not been in stride .
But rather turning and catching with his body.
looks very strange to me for a pro to do that more than a few times in a game.
Martin Rucker I believe might have a breakout year.
But I think we also need another TE.
3 with one getting up there a bit in age makes me nervous if we lose one early in the season.
Why do we have sooo many DB's?
Yeah that is all I got. For now 
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I've said it pretty consistently since the draft in April.
Last year's team with a healthy QB for the last 6 weeks ends up at 5-6 wins with an absolutely brutal schedule. You can't count those last 6 weeks in determining how this team will look this year.
Therefore we take last year as our starting point. Let's count just 4 wins and go from there. Add in an easier schedule and we'll add 2 wins. That makes 6.
We lost at least 3 games last year that we lead late but were unable to close out because of lack of depth. We've added some depth in several positions so we will probably pick up 2 of those types of games this year. That makes 8.
We have a healthy Cribbs to start the year. A healthy Edwards (remember the ankle took away the preseason). A healthy starting QB (DA started after recovering from the concussion). Recall how much chemistry he seemed to have with BE at the start of camp vs. after all heck broke loose in NY. And as a team we should be more disciplined. Sorely needed, me thinks. I think this added chemistry and discipline will get us at least 1 more win. So we are staring down 9.
BUT...
That safety position clearly lacks the depth it had even last year when it wasn't all that good. Poole can't be counted on with PCS. Mike Adams is a backup at best. Elam gets toasted deep. And Sorensen is a special teamer who happens to play a position. This will cost us at least 1 game.
The linebackers are still a question mark. And the right side of the O-line needs to gel quickly. Let's assume it doens't happen. That's probably another one in the right column.
So after giving those back, I'm going to say this team has an opportunity to surprise people is everyone stays healthy with an outside shot at a playoff spot (wildcard). But I'm not predicting that will happen. Instead, I'll go with the number from above... 7 wins. 9 losses. Decent season giving us hope for next year...
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MINNESOTA VIKINGS LOSS
@ Denver Broncos WIN
@ Baltimore Ravens LOSS
CINCINNATI BENGALS WIN
@ Buffalo Bills WIN
@ Pittsburgh Steelers LOSS
GREEN BAY PACKERS LOSS
@ Chicago Bears LOSS
BALTIMORE RAVENS LOSS
@ Detroit Lions WIN
@ Cincinnati Bengals LOSS
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS LOSS
PITTSBURGH STEELERS LOSS
@ Kansas City Chiefs WIN
OAKLAND RAIDERS LOSS
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS WIN
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As always...16-0
It sure would be nice to be correct One Year 
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It sure would be nice to be correct One Year
 That's the spirit!!!
One question though......Why not 17-0?  
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5-11
We have a decent offense, especially upfront. What we don't have is a running attack, and our defense is probably gonna be in the bottom 10, we are a slow, pressure less defense that gets dictated too rather than being a tempo setting, game controlling defense.
We should be able to beat the weak teams with a good passing attack, and whoever the QB is should have a decent year. We are just way too short of defense to win much this year, and most likely will have growing pains all over.
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Tough call without knowing who the QB is...
Anyway...
Special teams is top ten, maybe top five.
DL is much improved.
Receiving core is improved. Furry solidifies the 3rd receiver slot. Cribbs and Momass will anchor the #2 slot. Edward Drophands, is Edward Drophands, expect some spactacular grabs and some ugly drops. Either way some DB will have to cover him opening up the field.
OL should be better.
RBs? Jamal is looking tired. Davis looks like the real deal. A healthy Harrison, combined with Davis could be a dynamic combo. Bring in Lewis late in the game to pound on the tired D could work very well. How Mangini will utilize the three is anybodies guess.
QB? No clue. I think Quinn will manage the game better.
So.......
DA as QB; 4 or 5 wins
BQ as QB; 6 or 7 wins
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Anywhere from 5 to 10 wins. To get 10 wins a lot of things will need to fall into place and the most important one being the stability of the QB position.
If everything doesn't fall into place I still think we can squeek by and win 5 games due to a weak schedule.
I see us being in a lot of games this year with a chance to win in the 4th 1/4.
If I had to bet I'd say 7-9, with a win against Pittsburgh.
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"One question though......Why not 17-0?"
Cause we only play 16 games - keep in mind the thread is Season predictions...not Post Season predictions...we'll do that after we clinch a playoff spot...lol 
Look I could make PREDICTIONS but nobody can make them correctly...oh there is enough spread of predictions that somebody will be right. But cause they are just lucky or because they are soooo good at predicting... 
I look at each game and as a "FAN" just seeing us winning that game...as in - sure we can win that, sure we can win that one...do I really think we will win them all. Nahhhh, I understand how improbable that is. Ask me to predict other teams I'll try to estimate/speculate with pin point accuracy. But my Browns....we can win any and every game on our schedule. So my Brown's bias say 16-0...heck I said it in 2001, I sure feel better saying it in 2009 
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Special Teams - we have the chance to be one of (if not THE) best in the NFL. Buffalo has been the gold standard the past few years, but I think we have the pieces in place to pass them by. Maiava and Cribbs open-field tackling in particular is a beautfiul thing to behold.
OL - I think we are better here than people are giving credit. RT is the biggest question and that is mostly due to St. Clair's penalties (he's been adequate on blocking...better than Shaffer at least who couldn't even nail down a starting job in Chicago).
RB - biggest ? to me on offense....is Jamal too slow now, can Harrison stay healthy, can Davis continue success in regular season?
WR - better than expected so far....Edwards, Cribbs, MoMass, and Furrey all look legit. Might also be best blocking WR-corps in the NFL.
TE - Royal hasn't impressed and not sure how healthy Heiden really is....
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DL - most depth we have had since our return. Not a real pass-rush threat, but a bunch of good run stuffers and all should stay fresh.
LB - inside should be fine...hopefully Wimbley and Hall are good enough on the outside.
S - really thin if Pool can't go a full season....
CB - not worried here...we should be fine and Wright has lockdown potential.
All in all I think 7-9 to 9-7 is realistic.....also, really want 3-3 in the division, which should be attainable.
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Quinn will be the starter week 1. For the season, he'll throw for 21 TD's, 13 INT's - roughly 2600 yards.
Lewis will run for about 800 yards and be gone after the season. Harrison, basic non-factor 200 yards maybe for the season. Davis will end up at 684 yards, 4 TD's - starter next year.
Braylon will have about 1100 yards, drop half the passes he did last year and score 8 TD's. Cribbs will have about 60 yards a game between receptions and end-arounds. Furrey will be better than JJ of '07.
DQ will lead the team in tackles. Wimbley will have 6 sacks, Hall 7. Eric Wright will have an all-pro year - Pool, IR by week 4. D-line will be solid and not nearly the sieve it's been since '99.
Dawson will have 2 games that make me hate him, 2 that make me think he's awesome.
Record 9-7.
We WILL beat Pittsburgh once, that being the December game which bumps them from division leader to wild-card. Baltimore wins the division.
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I'm going with an optimistic five wins against Buffalo, Detroit, KC, Cincy & Oakland. And maybe we manage to lose one of those. 4-12, maybe 5-11.
On offense, I think we'll have trouble on the right side of the line, and I think we'll have QB/WR trouble (drops, timing, route running, INTs, misreads).
On defense, I think we have serious LB issues and problems at safety.
Both issues are exacerbated by the fact that this team lacks a winning culture.
I'm extremely interested in seeing how the new regime handles the controversy of a losing season, (should that happen,) and how the players respond to the regime in that instance. Much about the character of this team will be determined this season, win or lose. Is it SSDY? Or are we really building a culture of disciplined, smart, tough football. There's a lot to watch for this year other than who starts at QB. JMHO
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I say that the Browns have been predictable for at least some part of the season...if we win early like three straight then we will have a good season but if we start out losing then the team starts pushing and making mistakes and the season goes to hell.
We have a better Oline with Mack and Womack and depth with more centers and guards but we do need another RT and may be weak there.
Dline we are better with Smith and Williams and Rogers and Rubin and Coleman we should have a good rotation and keep Rogers ready to play.
LB we are not so good but Alex Hall has looked better and Jackson and WImbley are still playing so we just need the inside and that could be a problem...Viekune is too new and Barton too old so we will not be as good as we need to be.
DBs will be better but we still are short on safeties and Pool will not last the entire year. We must get someone that can help our DBs and I don't see that player.
Our Special Teams are always good so that helps but field position is not enough without some scoring.
RBs are good but we need more production from Harrison and Lewis. We have good depth with Davis and Peerman but we really need to get to ball moving and our Oline must be playing together.
QB we have decent depth but lack experience so Anderson can be a real help if Quinn goes down. Quinn can make plays and should be a real leader. he is not just an athlete but is smart enough to let the talent make plays.
WR we have enough talent but Cribbs can make us much more productive and has to be accounted for every play just like Winslow. So Edwards can get open or Furrey.
TE is good and I want to see Rucker make some big plays like we know he can.
The ofense should be creative and make some plays and the defense should be able to get some sacks and stop the other team so we should ba able to win at least 8 gaes and if we win early maybe 10. I say early losses will hurt us and we may only win 6-8. I still think we can be a very good team if we gain early confidence.
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I'll say 9-7 by the skin of our teeth, like maybe 20 total points away from 5-11.
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I'm gonna say 5-7 wins.
The 1st part of the schedule. I can see them going 2-3. They have a tough middle 8 games of the schedule. Weeks 6 thru 13 are just brutal. 1 maybe 2 wins in that span. After that, 2-1, or 3-0 in the last 3 games.
I think they will be a lot more competitive in most of the games. Whether that translates into more or less wins remains to be seen. This season is the fear of the unknown.
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Sunday, September 13 vs MINNESOTA VIKINGS FOX 1:00 PM L
Sunday, September 20 @ Denver Broncos CBS 4:15 PM W
Sunday, September 27 @ Baltimore Ravens CBS 1:00 PM L
Sunday, October 4 vs CINCINNATI BENGALS CBS 1:00 PM W
Sunday, October 11 @ Buffalo Bills CBS 1:00 PM W
Sunday, October 18 @ Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1:00 PM L
This is where it starts coming together, and we pull off a few huge wins in a row. While I think these teams are good, I don't think we can't hang and see a string of W's here as the team comes together in all facets and start forming an identity. I'm always optimistic though. Before I said 6 wins.
Sunday, October 25 vs GREEN BAY PACKERS FOX 1:00 PM W
Sunday, November 1 @ Chicago Bears CBS 1:00 PM W
Monday, November 16 vs BALTIMORE RAVENS ESPN 8:30 PM W
Sunday, November 22 @ Detroit Lions CBS 1:00 PM W
Sunday, November 29 @ Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1:00 PM L
Sunday, December 6 vs SAN DIEGO CHARGERS CBS 4:05 PM L
Thursday, December 10 vs PITTSBURGH STEELERS NFLN 8:20 PM W...Yes finally!
Sunday, December 20 @ Kansas City Chiefs CBS 1:00 PM W
Sunday, December 27 vs OAKLAND RAIDERS CBS 1:00 PM W
Sunday, January 3 vs JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS CBS 1:00 PM L
Like I said, this is my optimistic side of me..I don't know why. There will be several critical keys to getting to this point. I'm hoping to win those games against GB and at Chi-town. More than likely lose one, but neither of these teams scare me for some reason. I think we split the series with all three in our division. I like having three warm weather teams to face at home in December even though I picked us to lose two of them,,If we lose the Chicago and GB games, we can always redeem ourselves. We have to beat up on Detroit, Oakland, and Kansas City.
I really do hope we get have an identity by that 7th game. especially on D. I think by the end of the year, Jamal won't be a feature back, Hall will be starting, and our D-line and aggressiveness will make an impact. We will have one 1,000 yard receiver and two with 800. No thousand yard backs, Jamal will have about 650 and Davis will have 700. Jerome will have around 250. McDonald is going to have a huge year, with the picks. Somehow, we have to get to the QB. Don't know how, I think we will see more guys with 5 and 6 sacks, but none in the double digits. I see a few going to secondary blitzes too. Granted I don't think we showed our full deck in pre-season and Rogers disrupting in this scheme will cause a ripple effect unlike in the conservative Crennel D.
"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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My take is pretty much in line with others: vs. Minni- Loss. Thought we might pull it off, but doubt it now, so pencil in the "L". vs. Denver-WIN Originally had a loss, but Denver's a hot mess, so I think we take it. vs. Baltimore- Loss- Hate to say it, but they just won't be emotionally ready to win there. vs. Cincy- WIN- I'm not buying the Cincy hype this year either. vs. Buffalo- Loss- The Bills will be a tough to beat 9-7 team this year. vs. Stillers- Loss- Not much to say there. vs. Green Bay- Loss- I think the Pack is gonna roll the NFC North and a lot of other teams vs. Chicago- Loss- A close one, but no cigar, and we are subjected to Cutler-comparison week. vs. Baltimore- WIN- Payback game and confidence grows. vs. Detroit- WIN- Stafford may very well be injured by this point. (I'll be at this one!) vs. Cincy- Loss- A bitter loss what is now a traditional Browns-Bengals shootout. vs. San Diego- Loss- Can't hang with them...yet. vs. Stillers- Loss- Again, and the fans get really pissed and rumble for "change". vs. KC- WIN- The Chiefs are in for a long year. vs. Oakland- WIN- Lots of interceptions for our corners! vs. Jacksonville- Loss- A close one, but they pound us down. 6-10, 2-4 in the division. Not so good, but more competitive and improving. The foundation will be set for 2010, where we will see double digit wins and the playoffs. 
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I guess I'm the Turd in the punch bowl.....
5-11.
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No your not! Realistically 6 wins...optimistically is my post.
I think the coaching staff blew last year...Not prepared, no control, couldn't make in game adjustments to save their life, bad game planning, not conditioned, bad clock management..the list goes on. He lost this football team early last year and then they got worried about losing Camp cupcake and everybodys favorite uncle at the end. There is no hiding the fact that Romeo was one of the worst coaches this organization has ever had at the helm...nice guy though. He had a crap load of talent and high draft picks that never materialized to what they should have. We actually saw Kamerion Wimbley regress every year during his tenure.
I remember when Cinci would start the game in no huddle and after halftime...He had Ted Washington out there and was almost like he had no clue and didn't prepare for it..Even I knew.
"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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The Browns will win some, not many, maybe a game or two more than last year and lose some, maybe double digits...
Oh lord, stuck in the cellar again.... The Browns are like the draft... A crap shoot...
But what do I know... Someone around here used to say, " I'm just another know it all nobody"
"A mans character is his fate..." Heraclitus
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MINNESOTA VIKINGS loss
@ Denver Broncos win
@ Baltimore Ravens loss
CINCINNATI BENGALS Loss
@ Buffalo Bills win
@ Pittsburgh Steelers win
GREEN BAY PACKERS loss
@ Chicago Bears loss
BALTIMORE RAVENS win
@ Detroit Lions win
@ Cincinnati Bengals loss
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS loss
PITTSBURGH STEELERS loss
@ Kansas City Chiefs win
OAKLAND RAIDERS win
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS loss
7-9
Hunter + Dart = This is the way.
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Super Bowl bound. Hey it could happen. Arizona did it.
GO BROWNS!!! Undefeated!!!!!! We are going to be better than almost everyone thinks.
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