DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Trade Braylon Edwards NOW!

I caught it when I listened to it, and my first thought was "he's outa here after the season."

Maybe I'm wrong, but that was my first thought. It was like he didn't really much care about the season.

Yeah, I had the same thoughts too.

NRTU:

I think we have to motivate Braylon, not get rid of him. Concentration, routes, effort.... That can be fixed, it only takes motivation. When players don't care, they don't perform.

We just got beat by all our former players (Browncos), that should say something.

It's funny you brought that up. I know several Broncos fans who think Andra Davis is the toast of the town.

RE: Edwards ... I hope we keep him. I'm tired of getting rid of talented guys. Not to make excuses for him, but I think the losing is wearing on him. His last interview you could just tell - the losing, the QB carousel. If any of us were to put ourselves in his position, many of us would feel the same way, especially if you're a competitive person and there are so many bad things going on that are out of your control.

He's not very popular and many want him gone. It's hard to argue against those people because there are many reasons he should be gone. He doesn't appear to be one of those guys who is going to be a good soldier and put in an honest day's work all the time unless the surrounding circumstances suit him the way he wants. He allows attitudes and emotion to get the best of him. But I think he's salvageable, and if we could get this ship turned around, I think he would be a really great player for us for a really long time ... maybe one of the best WRs we've ever had. Talent-wise he's already there ... attitude wise ... eh, not so much.

I'm really hoping DA succeeds for many reasons, but BE is one of them. He needs a reason to stay. We need him. I think I sound like a broken record when it comes to Edwards, but I don't think there are many guys in the league with his talent. If he were on a perenial winner, I think he'd be a superstar. I don't like getting rid of players with that kind of talent.

Its not about one game Nas...

that fact that BE is still on this team should be a shame for the front office, as much as I want him to be a Cleveland Brown, a pigeon could peck out a better trade for Braylon.

we all know he is gone, we all know he does'nt want to be here

Sometimes players who have loads of talent and a very bright future ahead of them end up on teams who have nothing to give them back.

Organizational failures, bad coaching and the lack in ability to field a talented enough team to compete have swallowed up many potential pro bowl and hall of fame careers.

I've always felt bad for talented players who landed on teams who will do nothing but drag their careers through the mud and never put them in a position to succeed. We all love the great players but great players are great because their teams put them in a position to succeed.

Guys like BE work their entire lives since childhood with the dream of being a successful NFL player only to wind up on a dysfunctional team like the Browns where it no longer matters how talented he is. His destiny is tied to being a member of a losing organization and his potential will never be realized.

This isn't in defense of BE and the problems of his own making. But as an employee you bring a certain skills to the table as does your employer. When your skills far outweigh those of your employer you want to move on to an organization who will put you in a position to succeed. It doesn't matter who you are.

While it's true that regardless of your situation you have to bring your best each and every day or you are part of the problem. But in some situations, such as being drafted by the Cleveland Browns, there is only so far your own contributions are going to take you. The rest is up to the organization and if the organization is dysfunctional as is this team you are doomed to fall by the wayside as yet another potential great player who never was able to make his dreams a reality.

It's a shame really. We can all think of such players, many, many of them. There have been some great players whose careers were so-so in the end and that mostly because of the team they played for were failures top to bottom. How do they keep the fires burning and the belief in their dreams strong when the visions of their dream is squashed by an incompetent team.

Sure, we must all play the hand we were dealt and play it to the utmost of our ability regardless of how discouraging our situation may be. To fail to do that is to play a huge hand in our own demise. But it takes a special person of great fortitude to stay up for it day after day with no sign of potential success anywhere in the future.

Braylon Edwards has his share of failure, problems and short comings that can be directly attributed to himself. But having found myself several times over the years in a dead-end job I can relate to how hard it is to keep playing at a high level when it seems all for naught. That's no excuse to slack off but it's extremely difficult to maintain a level of competency in face of those circumstances.

If it were the game of golf where it's all on you that would be one thing. But when your success, no matter how hard you try, is directly tied into and dependent on someone else's lack of ability it's got to be discouraging. I'd bet the roster of the Cleveland Browns is chuck full of such players.

The losing wears on you. The coaching and philosophy changes wears on you. You've got one regime telling you this is the road to success. Then in a few short years you have another regimes telling you, no, this instead is the road to success. And when nothing ever comes of any of it, unless you are either super gullible, dense, easily impressed or unable to think for yourself it's easy to throw your hand up in dispair.

The NFL is littered with wasted talent and ruined careers. I suspect that when you begin to see that as your future it is the beginning of the end for you.

Yes, there have been those who've never given up and have been very bright spots on very bad teams.

Apparently Braylon is not and will not be one of those.

trading Edwards has some merit.


here is another case:

The Browns are in full rebuilding mode,no doubt about it.

Edwards will likely not be back,may as well get something or try to, while we still can. At least something more than a 4th round compensatory pick.

If I was GM (here we go) I try hard to sign Edwards to another contract. If he balks and we are 0- 4 or 1- 5 and the season is over for all intents and purposes, then I try to make a deal. I'm not certain if that is realistic .Who's a realistic trading partner?
I don't see it happening.

J/C

Trading your only offensive threat because your rebuilding.............that is beyond assinine.

The idea is to collect talent, but as usual, the "best fans" in the NFL are more for running a guy off when he is probably your best offensive player. Some are saying trade him for draft picks while he worth something.......yet the same people are bitching that we have no talent.

Our offence can't score, so lets trade our only hope to score......priceless

Glad your not our GM. Heck why not trade Rogers, he isn't stopping the run? Boy we could get a first rounder out of him,

hmmm.. makes u wonder...

edwards i believe got the message a little when DA stopped looking his way as much after that first drop. I was happy to see cribs fresher in the later part of the game and i believe it's because he was not on the field as much at WR.
Mass was VERY impressive and royal came out of his shell again, it's nice to have some good things to talk about again.

Edwards can't catch the football consistantly. That was his M.O. coming out of Michigan. He's fast and can make acrobatic catches. That's it. I hope someone signs him this offseason and we get some decent compensation, as he will be a RESTRICTED free agent.

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Let's just hope he doesn't shut it down like he has in years past.

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If he ever turns it on again, perhaps we can hope that.

Maybe some jail time will straighten him out.

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trade him to NYG for Manningham and Mathias....if we could be so lucky.

Very well written post ddub . . .


I agree with what you said and would add that I think Braylon will want a way out next season. Right now he needs the proverbial kick in the behind to jump start his attitude. I heard that he was dogging it on his routes and aside from his personal foul he is flat. Dead flat.

I would hate to lose a player of his caliber but I would be surprised if he is here next season. Don't trade him now, play the games and let the offseason take its course.

Dude, Turk started this thread, not Toad.

I agree to dump him, but definitely not until next year. MoMass benefits from the Edwards threat. Many don't want to believe that, but let them double Massaqoui and see how great he is as a rookie. Good teams need a threat on both sides, right now we sort of have that. If Furrey can get on the same page as Anderson, this offense could become potent.

Edwards will bounce back, it's a contract year. If he doesn't, he sets his salary low for the future. That is the bottom line.

there is just no way that is any bit beneficial to this team . . .

You are Derek Anderson, you were just handed the keys to a struggling offense and the one weapon you relied upon the past two years is being traded. In his place you have a vet that scare no one (Furrey) a tight end that can't stretch the seam, a special teams ace who thinks he is Bo Jackson, and two rookies to throw too.


You might as well kick him in the boys at the start of every game and save him the suspense.

j/c....
Before everyone crowns MoMass as our #1 receiver, he was single covered all day.

I was fortunate to have some pretty good seats for the game on Sunday and they were playing man coverage on MoMass the entire game. They would show cover 2 then roll the safety over to Braylon and leave 1 in the sky. Backside was MoMass and their second corner. Most NFL receivers will have the ability to beat a single coverage vs. the second best corner on the defending team.

That being said, Edwards sucks. Trade him for a draft pick so we can draft a real #1 receiver next year. Just my .02.

Braylon took away coverage, and blocked his ass off in the meantime.

If that was Furrey or Robo or Cribbs lined up opposite, it may have been different. Not taking anything away from Mo, but he benefited from Braylon's presence. Just like Braylon had the benefit of Winslow taking on safeties.

Even if Robo and MoMass started.. neither would get double teamed... so it would still be one on one..

You da man, Hotb! Wanna rematch in Madden 10 now that you have "more depth"?

Haha he's a monstahhhh!

By the way I totally agreed with you on this and liked the move. We're getting draft picks damnit and added depth to the football team. Next year we are going to have a spike in wins with Gini at the helm, I think. The fat's getting trimmed off the cap, the roster, the locker room, and all our losses so far are to teams who post a combined record of 14-2. Maybe next year we add in FA another baller at RB, o ur WRs come together, we fix the right side of the OL, add a pass rusher, inside backer, corner and a safety with a competent QB and we get a bunch of wins. It seems like a lot but I think it's doable. One good draft and a steady unit can be produced. We shall see.

I wish I had those old articles from guys in 2008 on how some browns players weren't giving their all.. and how it was so obvious it was Braylon who they were all talking about...

Glad to see him go...

It is very ironic that I have THREE 16x20 posters of three Browns on my wall... (from left to right)

Kellen Winslow... GONE!
Sean Jones... GONE!
Braylon Edwards... GONE!

man.. Now I gotta start back over... glad I didn't get that Brady Quinn one.. lol.

maybe get a John St. Clair one?
or a Robert Royal one?