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I was reviewing Golf Galaxy's website and I noticed a few sets that included Hybrids in place of long irons. Barely anybody uses a 1 iron or 2 iron anymore, and now some sets are include a 3 hybrid club or a 4 hybrid club in place of, naturally, the usual 3 iron and 4 iron.
Then I thought about the last round I played.
Just a few holes for example:
Hole 10: Tee off with the driver, bad tee shot, use my hybrid 3 to get on the green.
Hole 7: Tee off with a 3 wood, bad tee shot, use my 3 wood again to get on the green
Hole 3: Hit a good shot with my driver off the tee, and use a PW for my approach
Hole 5: Good tee shot with my driver, use a 7 wood to place the ball on the green.
- It occured to me that I only used a mid-range iron 1 time. - For a tee shot on a 170 yard par 3. Everything else was either a Pitching Wedge, Sand Wedge, Hybrid 3, 7 wood, 3 wood, or driver.
The other thing that stood out was that the Hybrid, 3 Wood, and Pitching Wedge were used frequently compared to my other clubs.
I'm starting to think that when it's time for a "new set" of clubs, I'm not going to need to blow 500-1000 on a new set of irons. I can peice together a good driver, a few hybrids, and keep my current pitching wede and sand wedge.
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I hardly play golf anymore, but I stopped hitting long irons years ago. They're too hard to use for the average player.  I don't even like hitting five-irons off the fairway - I'd trust a 9-wood more than a five, except off a tee. I love my 7-wood, which for me replaces roughly a two or three-iron. IIRC, Lee Trevino once said if lightning strikes on your golf course, have a one-iron in your hand, "because even God can't hit a one-iron."
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Lee Trevino once said if lightning strikes on your golf course, have a one-iron in your hand, "because even God can't hit a one-iron."
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I'm starting to think that when it's time for a "new set" of clubs, I'm not going to need to blow 500-1000 on a new set of irons. I can peice together a good driver, a few hybrids, and keep my current pitching wede and sand wedge.
Here are the important factors:
1) How good are you? Considering the skill level you noted, you're probably better off replacing your 3 and 4 irons with a hybrid set.
2) If you're on a budget, you're right, blowing $500-$1000 is wasted money. You're better off spending half that amount on clubs, and the other half on a short-series of lessons.
3) Considering you're skill level again, custom-fitted clubs aren't important, as a standard set of clubs "off the rack" would work just fine.
SO, here's your answer: Ebay.
I'm an aspiring golf pro, and even I don't feel the need to have a custom-fitted driver and set of irons right now. There are reasons for that, but they aren't important as it pertains to you.
SO, since you don't need a new or custom set of clubs, just get a set off of Ebay, such as these:
Adams hybrid set
For a couple of hundred bucks, you'll be getting a quality product with hybrids for your longer irons.
Then you can get a quality 2008 driver, such as the tour burner (it's 2-degrees closed to help the guy that hits slices) for $100, again off of ebay.
SO, for $200-$300, you can have a complete set of "irons" (which is important, even for someone who only plays once every few months) and a really good driver.
Problem solved.
But don't think getting new clubs will fix your game. Take lessons. I play several times a week, but still take at least one lesson a month to stay on top of what I'm doing. If you're going to budget money for new clubs, budget money for at least two lessons. One lesson isn't worth it, as you'll need the second lesson to verify that what you've learned and are working on from the first lesson is actually correct.
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1-irons have always been pretty rare and most people only used them as an alternate off the tee.. I use my 2-iron a lot in that situation. I also usually play from the back tees and find myself on a lot of 230 yard par 3s.. that's a 2 iron shot. It's also my utility club from under trees, etc if I need to hit it a long way (or as far as you can hit it when you are trying to knock it down and cut it..  ) What most tour players did a few years back was take out the 3rd wood and replace it with a wedge. They would carry 3 wedges because it gave them more shot making options around the green... I've noticed more and more are going back to the 4-wood in the bag. The reason is simple, you can hit a 4-wood out of the rough better than you can hit a long iron and you can also hit it higher than a 2 or 3 iron off the tee.. irons tend to get hung up in long grass and wood shaped clubs don't get as tangled up in the grass. The problem I have is that my 3-wood is only 13 degrees.. so there is a gap between my 2-iron which maxes out at about 230 and my 3-wood, which I hit about 255... where I don't have a club.. and it's hard to hit "an easy 3-wood"... I have carried Driver, 3-wood, 2-PW irons, 2 other wedges and putter for a long time. I'm seriously thinking about adding the 3rd wood back to the bag.. I just haven't figure out what I want to leave out, the 2-iron or one of the wedges.. (based on the way I played Friday, I might want to consider just leaving out the putter...  )
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'Toad. Cool to read that you are an aspiring pro. - You and I are gonna be good friends. Hopefully the profession leads you somewhere promising. I spent 190.00 on 3 lessons this past summer. - Money well spent. When last summer began, I was shooting between 110-120. - These last few weeks I have shot 87, 92, 95, 92. - Considering that I only have enough time to hit one bucket of balls a week, and shoot 18 twice a month, I'm pleased with my progress. Do you have any experience with Nickent brand clubs.
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Lemme tell you about brands of clubs...............
Hit lots of demos and fine one that feels right to YOU. With today's technology, the difference in irons is ZERO. It's all about how they feel in your own individual hands.
Now that changes when you get to hybrids, and REALLY changes when you get to drivers.
A perfect example are the irons I use..........2003 model Cleveland TA2's. But the driver? R9 TP with a high-end Rayon Fubuki shaft because the technology is that much more advanced in drivers.
Go to your local big golf shop and grab a demo of every single iron you can find. Hit about 40 balls with your own club, THEN switch to the demo's and find one that really feels good.
I can talk brands till I'm blue in the face, but all it'll do is influence your decision in a bad way.
To be honest, I hate.........HATE............HATE!!!!!!!!! anything Ping with an unholy passion.
But they make great clubs 
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Good players with the ability to work the ball will always choose to play blades. Hybrids are good for mid to high handicappers in that they're easier to hit and have a larger sweet spot. But they're not as responsive or workable as blades.
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I haven't been out in a year or more, but typically, 99% of my game is played with the 1w,3w,5i,7i,pw,putter. And the 7i is used mostly just off the green for a putt/chip shot.
And I own a Cobra 1i, that I hit pretty well most of the time, but I'm not consistent with the distance.
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Not for me ... I use irons all the time.
My typical hole goes like this:
Tee shot: 3-iron because my driver shot has been considered a lethal weapon in 36 states.
2nd shot: 5-iron trying to get it back on the fairway.
3rd shot: 5-iron trying to redo the last shot after topping it for 4 feet.
4th shot: 7-iron, trying to get it back on the fairway from the other side.
5th shot: 9-iron trying to get it onto the green from the rough.
6th shot: 3-iron trying to poke it out from underneath the tree behind the green.
7th & 8th shot: 3-iron two-putt ... since I lost my putter on the last hole trying to fish my ball out of the drink.
And then on to the next par-3 ...
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What's the reason for your Ping hatred? I know you followed that up by saying they have great clubs but I'm just curious. I love my Ping irons. I hit just about every iron in the store when I bought these and they just felt great. I see no need for me to ever hit anything else. In response to the original poster... When I bought my iron set I originally bought a 6-PW. I already owned a 22 and 26 degree hybrid so there was no reason to get the lower clubs. It was also much cheaper to buy only a portion of the set. I did eventually have to order a 5 iron once I realized I had a gap in distance between the 26 degree hybrid and the 6i. The only real down side to this aproach was the fact I had to wait for my clubs a couple of weeks. Of course that wasn't a big deal because I bought them during the offseason (which is far too long in Wisconsin) I've realized the only real drawback to this setup is that when trying to cut it under a tree limb or out of the trees the lowest club in my bag is a 5i or the hybrid which both get up in the air a little to fast for this type of shot. I'm considering taking out one of my wedges just to add my old 3 iron just for this shot. Who the hell hits there 60 degree wedge anyway
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Not for me ... I use irons all the time.
My typical hole goes like this:
Tee shot: 3-iron because my driver shot has been considered a lethal weapon in 36 states.
2nd shot: 5-iron trying to get it back on the fairway.
3rd shot: 5-iron trying to redo the last shot after topping it for 4 feet.
4th shot: 7-iron, trying to get it back on the fairway from the other side.
5th shot: 9-iron trying to get it onto the green from the rough.
6th shot: 3-iron trying to poke it out from underneath the tree behind the green.
7th & 8th shot: 3-iron two-putt ... since I lost my putter on the last hole trying to fish my ball out of the drink.
And then on to the next par-3 ...
It's probably because your using irons instead of hybrids.
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What's the reason for your Ping hatred?
I know you followed that up by saying they have great clubs but I'm just curious.
Just another poor attempt by me to make a point by proxy
I've never........and I repeat NEVER.........hit a Ping iron, putter, hybrid, metal, or driver that EVER felt good in my hands, sounded good to my ears, or looked good from my eyes.
So my busted humor then tried to suggest that while I hate anything Ping, they do, in fact, make quality clubs.
The point being that it's about personal preference. Many great pro's on tour use Ping. When I play a round with a Ping driver, I don't believe I could hit any of the 14 fairways.
So....Ping makes great clubs. My personal preference is that they don't look or feel good to me.
BTW......if anyone decides to buy hybrids, know that the Adams o3os line hits the ball WAY high, but they aren't that great out of actual rough. The head of the club is just too damned big in that regard. In fact, I've suggested to some higher handicap golfers that an Adams o3os would be a fantastic substitution for a 5-wood because it's easier to hit, while the distance loss is only about 10 yards, which is irrelevant from 210 away for a high-handicapper.
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I've realized the only real drawback to this setup is that when trying to cut it under a tree limb or out of the trees the lowest club in my bag is a 5i or the hybrid which both get up in the air a little to fast for this type of shot. I'm considering taking out one of my wedges just to add my old 3 iron just for this shot.
Tim (hell, I don't know exactly how to address you without typing that whole name *L*) a quick adjustment in your setup will help you with that.
If you search the golfchannel.com you can find some helpful web-lessons. The fix for that is to just choke down on the 5, play it off your back foot, and take a 3/4 swing. Now you're right, it won't go that far because it is a 5, but that'd let you keep your 60-degree.
Of course if you don't like your 60 or simply can't hit it, then Hell yeah, throw that beoch in the lake *L* You could then get yourself a "weak" sand-wedge, which is a 56-degree, as that'll give you almost everything a 60-degree would, while allowing you to put another club in your bag. I actually play with four: PW, gap, sand, lob, as those are my scoring clubs. For a wannabe pro, I'm not that good of a putter, so it's vital that I stick my wedge shots inside 15-feet to have a 20% of dropping it. (Having a screwed up back keeps me from practicing putts as much as I should. I can only stand it for about 10 minutes then I have to stop).
In today's world of golf, the average once-a-month guy SHOULD get a "transitional" set, which replaces the 3 and 4 irons with hybrids. The key is that you DON'T have to pay big money for'em. For the average weekender, an off-the-rack set from Ebay is just fine.
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Tim works just fine  I agree with you 100%. It doesn't matter how great the club is if it doesn't feel good in your hands and your not comfortable with it then you aren't going to have very good results with it. I love my Ping irons but like you the driver and woods just never felt right. As for the wedges I have a 60,56,and a 52 degree wedge along with a pitching wedge in my bag. I think taking out the 60 isn't really a big deal because I don't hit it that often anyway and I think the 3i will help a lot. I can get the ball out of trouble with the 5 with the shot your talking about but there has been a couple of times where I would have liked to have a lower iron in my bag.
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I absolutely LOVE my Adams Hybrids(A3's)...It took me just a session of swinging to get used to them and they have just about cured my "2nd Shot Blues"...LOL Of course the fact that I spent far more time golfing this summer than I have in some time might of had somethind to do with it as well...lol.....This was the first summer I had in a while I could do so....
Got new clubs....Taylormade R7's...Great Clubs...love the way they feel(which I agree totally with everything that has been said about feel...It was the reason I went with mid sized heads on my previous set while everyone and their grandmother were going with oversized heads at the time...)...Added the Hybrids...and will add some Callaway FT-i's for next season.
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Women have been using various assortments of woods for a long time.
No doubt hybrids are easier to hit, so go with what works...
For me, my 1 iron, better known in local golfing circles as my "billy baroo" stays in the bag.
I like a club that laser's out 210 yards, then runs hot another 30 yards.
Perfect for windy days or when you are under a tree and need a hot runner.
It also works well for chips around the green but need just a little hop to clear the fringe.
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You're showin' your age with that 1-iron.
Come to the future, 'Peen. We'll welcome you with open arms.
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Come to the future, 'Peen. We'll welcome you with open arms.
LOL...I have never really tried to hide it...actually, I am proud of it...I pass for 50 all the time
I do like long irons..have always been able to hit them...I am talking sweet and straight...If i had to dump the driver or 1 iron, I would drop the driver.
I don't know why, but a 1 iron and 2 iron are money for me...they travel long and straight with very few off center hits...shoot, I can even hood the club or open it up to change the trajectory.....open arms or not...I will stick with those...and I have seen you my friend.
Don't get me wrong, I think you are a swell fellow and all, but your open arms aren't all that appealing.
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I love all this nonsense about get a club because of the way it feels. What a bunch of rubbish! If you hit the ball on the toe consistently, you're going to get negative feedback, consistently. If you hit the ball properly, in the middle of the club face, you'll never feel it. If you're feeling it, you've mishit it and need to take some lessons. About Adams, Pings, Calloway's and other over-sized heads, get Flintstone club heads if you must and if they make you feel more confident. You choose a set of clubs based on the way they set up to your eye, thin top line, thick top line, whatever you personally like the view of because that's what you're seeing. The only differences in cast club heads these days is the amount of loft as manufacturers have gradually lowered the loft of clubs such as a pitching wedge from 50 to 48 to 46 and so on so joe golfer can hit his wedge more than 110 yards and beat his chest like Tarzan. Remember for a cast club head, 17:4 Stainless is 17:4 stainless, regardless of who manufacturers it. The feel is the same, everything else is marketing hype. You choose a set of clubs by choosing a set of shafts that compliment your style of swing. The shafts are more important than any club head ever produced. If you're decent and into accuracy, go stiffer, rifle 6.0 or higher. If it's True Temper, the larger the step pattern the stiffer the shaft. S or X 300's will work well. They have a tighter dispersion pattern, you won't necessarily hit them as far but you won't hit them as far off line either. If you are new to golf or simply don't like to practice, don't be afraid to use an R shaft, especially if you have a slow swing, no one is looking at that label but you. Ask about the kick point of the shaft, the lower the kick point, the higher the ball will fly. The next time you're in a golf store, place an R-300 next to an S-300, you'll see the same step pattern except the R-300 will have a lower bottom step in the shaft, it will be closer to the hosel of the club, or farther down the shaft itself. This lower kick-point will help in aiding the ball into the air. If you just like to knock the ball around a couple of times a year and get drunk, get your clubs at a garage sale, and don't forget to wear your Converse's.
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The difference when I miss-hit a perimeter weighted club vs when I miss-hit my Hogan Apex's is night and day.
When I miss one it feels like I've hit some solid lead ball and it reverberates through my hands. And when I hit it perfectly it feels as though the ball was a small pat of butter.
When I miss one with a set of Pings for instance it doesn't feel too different than a well hit shot.
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Are your Apex's not perimeter weighted? Apex's are a forged club, made from 1020 Carbon steel vs 17:4 Stainless of a cast club. Your forged club is generally going to be a smaller more "traditional" design with a very tight sweet spot. Average joe golfer isn't going to care much for a forged club. Does it feel better on a pured shot? Since you only "feel" vibration, neither one should transfer very much vibration on a pured shot. It's just that tight sweet spot on the forged transfers so much vibration on a mis-hit, any pured shot that doesn't transfer vibration after that will feel like butter or cream or a marshmellow or whatever, you're elbows are just grateful it didn't hurt.
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I do like long irons..have always been able to hit them...I am talking sweet and straight.
What is this "sweet and straight" of which you speak?.......... 
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The difference when I miss-hit a perimeter weighted club vs when I miss-hit my Hogan Apex's is night and day.
When I miss one it feels like I've hit some solid lead ball and it reverberates through my hands. And when I hit it perfectly it feels as though the ball was a small pat of butter.
When I miss one with a set of Pings for instance it doesn't feel too different than a well hit shot.
It just the size of the sweet spot.
If you really mis-hit one of the Pings you will feel it..and what you think is sweet with one of the Pings might not be all that sweet..it might be 80% sweet.
The best way I can explain that is if every once in a while you hit a shot that feels no different than your normal shot but the ball goes about 20 yards higher and 10 yards further, then you know what hitting the spot really is.
If that doesn't happen, then you are hitting as sweet as can be expected....but you have to go by results and can't simply go by feel because I agree, a perimeter weighted club isn't going to give you good feedback....they all feel about the same unless you really miss the ball and have paint marks on the outside or inside 1/2 inch of the face.
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So weight and balance contribute nothing to "feel" for you????
When I bought my previous set....all of the oversized heads everyone was buying just felt ....unbalanced...Just far too much weight at the end of the club. My swing felt completely off. When swinging my mid sized head my swing was much more fluid and smooth. The clubs felt far more balanced. I struck the ball better and more consistently.
The bottom line is this....Regardless of how you buy your clubs....whether through scientific logic or feel...you have to have confidence in your clubs (as well as your swing) in order to play well. For me, feel was a major aspect in that confidence.
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So weight and balance contribute nothing to "feel" for you????
When I bought my previous set....all of the oversized heads everyone was buying just felt ....unbalanced...Just far too much weight at the end of the club. My swing felt completely off. When swinging my mid sized head my swing was much more fluid and smooth. The clubs felt far more balanced. I struck the ball better and more consistently.
The bottom line is this....Regardless of how you buy your clubs....whether through scientific logic or feel...you have to have confidence in your clubs (as well as your swing) in order to play well. For me, feel was a major aspect in that confidence.
I was talking about feel as in a golf ball coming off the head during a shot. Certainly if you don't like the feel of a club in your hands it's not going to inspire confidence in you and you're never going to be happy with it.
There is such a thing as swing weighting and some people swear by it. Most of the "Ping" style clubs usually weigh a little lighter, around C9 to D0. My personal preference is a D2 and is considered about standard in line of clubs know as "players clubs". Some would suggest a lighter feeling club can be swung faster, therefore, you can hit the ball farther. After all velocity X mass = distance. But when you consider the fact a swing weight is about the same weight as a dollar bill and adding 3 dollar bills to the end of your club, can you really feel that difference?
So all that is fairly subjective and the user has to make that determination for themselves.
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Who the hell hits there 60 degree wedge anyway
I love my 60 degree wedge. Bring it in nice and high, and I can actually fairly well place my wedge shots.
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adding 3 dollar bills to the end of your club, can you really feel that difference?
I tried that.. the dollar bills kept flapping in the wind and it was very distracting.. so yea, I'd say it makes a difference.
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There is such a thing as swing weighting and some people swear by it. Most of the "Ping" style clubs usually weigh a little lighter, around C9 to D0. My personal preference is a D2 and is considered about standard in line of clubs know as "players clubs". Some would suggest a lighter feeling club can be swung faster, therefore, you can hit the ball farther. After all velocity X mass = distance. But when you consider the fact a swing weight is about the same weight as a dollar bill and adding 3 dollar bills to the end of your club, can you really feel that difference?
So all that is fairly subjective and the user has to make that determination for themselves.
In a way, you've explained exactly why I offered the response I did.
You know what that means. I know what that means. Hel knows what that means.
Do you believe the guy who goes out with a beer in his bag knows what that means?
Unlikely.
To the average hack who's shooting 95-105, having a club that's a little stiffer with a little tighter dispersion pattern isn't going to mean NEARLY as much as having a good-feeling club in his hand.
So, my advice for the guy who's not interested in spending $500 on a set of clubs and who's slowly coming to the conclusion that he isn't good enough to hit a 4-iron remains the same:
Grab some demo's, find the one you like the best, and buy a used set off of Ebay.
That guy isn't going to go spend a couple of hours on a launch monitor tweaking a specific shaft to his wildly fluctuating swing speed.
If you can hit your low irons, then everything you said becomes pertinent. If you can't, your probably wasting time, energy, money, and nerves on tweaking a set of shafts and clubs.
That's why I said an "off the rack" set of clubs is fine for the average Johnny Doughnut who's trying to save a buck and wants a hybrid to replace low irons because he isn't good enough to hit'em.
Keep in mind the target audience of this thread. It isn't the scratch golfer. Outside of old men and women, flex isn't nearly as important as feel and confidence. Money plays a big role in this specific discussion. Getting a set of sticks that make you feel confident at the right price is more important than getting a shaft on a set of sticks that doesn't feel right.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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adding 3 dollar bills to the end of your club, can you really feel that difference?
I tried that.. the dollar bills kept flapping in the wind and it was very distracting.. so yea, I'd say it makes a difference.
I sure hope you took pictures!
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I have clearly in mind the target audience which is why I was advocating choosing a set of clubs based on how they look to you at address. New players can't tell a swing weight point from shoe cleat. New players don't have a clue what a club should feel like and as they develop the muscles used in golf that feel will necessarily change. Remembering I said that a cast head is a cast head is a cast head as far as feel is concerned. A new buyer should buy a set of clubs based on how they look at address. Do they inspire confidence when you stand over them? Do you think you can hit them a country mile? Great, pay attention to the shaft by not buying an X-flex and they should be good to go. Off the rack, out of your neighbors garage, whatever the best deal is you can find. Don't sink a lot of money into them as you will change them later if you find yourself playing more and you'll never change them if you don't. Either way the high handicapper wins.
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Bull, buy an old set of blade irons with a sweetspot about the size of a pinhead and a shaft like a telephone pole, learn to hit those and after you do, you can hit anything.
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Bull, buy an old set of blade irons with a sweetspot about the size of a pinhead and a shaft like a telephone pole, learn to hit those and after you do, you can hit anything.
But only if they are rusty, make sure they're good and rusty first! Lots of rust will help reduce the side spin!
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