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If you think about it, The man has had 2 Head Coaches, almost 5 OC's...and 2 QB Battles. He has ONE year to start and did great for his "Rookie" Season.. The next year was rough BUT he was hurt into the season and a lot was to blame on him AND the team. This guy has only had 1 season under his belt and today showed why he could continue to grow and be a better QB. Why do some say he is not our future? Do you remember when Manning was Bad? Drew Brees? It took time for them to be what they are today and honestly I do feel Anderson could be right there with them years to come with this same team. I feel if we can upgrade talent and let this guy grow, get experience, and mature, he can be a GREAT QB! Teams found out how to stop DA by taking the long ball, so what does that mean? DA Needed to get better with his blitz pick-ups and short passes. I feel that can be fixed and he showed me today that he has been working that out. Anderson has TONS of potential. Lets not say he is our future when he clearly has the right skills to be. This is just my opinion and I hope this does not turn into a Brady thing. I love the Browns and I root for them, not just one guy. GO Browns!  What Do You guys Think?
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Better question: Why do "most" users named Cle4Lyfe88 feel the need to create yet another Derek Anderson thread, when this could go in any number of the existing ones?
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Because he sux. He's inconsistent. You never know which DA is coming on to the field. He has absolutely no sense of touch. He throws the ball 100 mph even when the receiver is three yards away. He throws bullets for screen passes when there is a defender between him and the receiver when he just needs a little loft. He throws all over the place and he makes ill advised passes that end up in the defenders hands.
Upgrade does mean that things get better.........RIGHT?
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All that may be true Tenn.,.,, but at the moment, he certainly appears to be the best QB we have on the roster..
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That appears to be true. But given his history of ups and downs, I don't want to anoint him as the second coming of Christ just yet.
I hope he continues to play well, and that we have success, because I am a Browns fan, a fan of the entire team. But I will reserve judgment til I've seen some consistency from him.
That said, DA played a good game today, and brought this team some life, and a chance for a victory.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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Because in the time he has been here to say he is inconsistent is an understatement.
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Because he sux. He's inconsistent. You never know which DA is coming on to the field. He has absolutely no sense of touch. He throws the ball 100 mph even when the receiver is three yards away. He throws bullets for screen passes when there is a defender between him and the receiver when he just needs a little loft. He throws all over the place and he makes ill advised passes that end up in the defenders hands.
He sucks?
Would you rather Quinn be in there?
We actually have a competitive game and there's still DA haters out there... B/c it was so much fun watching Quinn out there hold the ball too long, throw 0-3 yard passes and overthrow anything over 5 yards.
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The question wasn't whether he wished he had DA or Quinn our there, it was why people didn't see DA as our future starter.
Right now DA is the one that should start, he brought more to the table.
But as I've said before, with his history of ups and downs, I want to see him bring it every week and show some consistency to his game and that he has improved.
If Peyton Manning had a game like DA had today and lost, I, and probably most people, would say Manning had a bad game. Here I am saying DA had a good game, mainly because you can't say he had a bad game with the way the team seemed to come to life today.
But I also think the offense left points on the field.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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All that may be true Tenn.,.,, but at the moment, he certainly appears to be the best QB we have on the roster..
Stating that he's the best QB on our roster right now... and stating that he's the future starter are two completely different things.
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Why do "Most" Browns Fans denounce Anderson as a Future Starter For Us?
Because it's a forum where anyone can post their thoughts, and "some" fans expect better play at the qb position and post it often.
I would bet if you went to similar boards for some other teams you would read the same about their quarterbacks.
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In my humble opinion, we need to draft a solid halfback, upgrade our TE position, and bring in a feasible right tackle before we even think about our QB.
With these offensive upgrades, DA might prove to be a solid NFL starter.
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BrownsBigshot THANK YOU!
This is the best post on this thread....we are a RT, a HB, a Todd Heap type of pass catching TE away from being a Top 10 NFL Offense
I personally believe with the 3 pieces above added, that DA could take us to the big dance....there is no need to bring in another QB...Cleveland Fans are ruining this Franchise
most of our FA Money needs to be spent on the Defensive Side of the Ball...Wimbley is not a premier pass rusher, we need a pass rusher...we need 2 new OLB..this is why i am more for a 4-3 one-gap D..be easier to fix, but thats for another thread
We need 2 OLB, and an ILB on Defense...also a safety would help as well
but a RB, a RT, and a pass catching TE with DA at QB makes this a top 10 offense...one we could win with...
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In my humble opinion, we need to draft a solid halfback, upgrade our TE position, and bring in a feasible right tackle before we even think about our QB.
With these offensive upgrades, DA might prove to be a solid NFL starter.
I don't disagree.. completely. However, I'm not sold on the argument that we need to have 10 other pro-bowl players on offense before we can assess the QB... If you add those caliber players then lots of guys can be solid NFL starters...
I would like to add any 2 of those 3 (my preference would be for a bigger, tackle breaking RB, and a solid RT) I think a great pass catching TE would be a luxury but not a necessity.
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But given his history of ups and downs, I don't want to anoint him as the second coming of Christ just yet.
I agree with you on that...
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agreed. i think this current line-up, assuming momass's performance wasn't just a flash and royal either develops chemistry with royal or heiden starts in his place, gives DA enough to prove himself.
i'm not going to announce him as a savior by any means but his play yesterday gets him the start for the rest of the season, barring some momentous collapse or injury. if he plays solid all season, i'd entertain him being the starter next year.
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Sorry I don't buy it. In his "great" 2007 season he was still #17 in the NFL and that was with him being sacked the LEAST number of times by any full time QB. We are going to get one more shot this year at a top 5 pick and a franchise QB and need to take the opportunity. DA is simply never going to be consistent enough to take us to the playoffs.
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Define solid Dong. is a 68.8 passer rating solid (good for 30th in the league)? Close losses? A 4-12 record? Anderson is nothing more than a tease. He makes some amazing throws that have many here forgetting about the interceptions/bad reads/poor accuracy but is in the end at best a backup QB.
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It doesn't matter,,, a "W" is a win,,, and a "L" is a loss.. 
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agreed. i think this current line-up, assuming momass's performance wasn't just a flash and royal either develops chemistry with royal or heiden starts in his place, gives DA enough to prove himself.
i'm not going to announce him as a savior by any means but his play yesterday gets him the start for the rest of the season, barring some momentous collapse or injury. if he plays solid all season, i'd entertain him being the starter next year.
If he can play to the level he did yesterday I'd be fine with him being the starter next year too.. and if he can get in a little better rhythm, especially on some of those timing routes where he was a little anxious and threw it too hard or too early, and IF he can minimize the mistakes, we will win some games...
IF all of that happens, then I think you try to add 2 or 3 real good players in the off-season (figuring 1 FA and 2 draft picks) (that's 2 or 3 if none of our other starters leave or if they are replaced) and see what he can do next year coming in as the undisputed starter, not looking over his shoulder, etc...
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In my humble opinion, we need to draft a solid halfback, upgrade our TE position, and bring in a feasible right tackle before we even think about our QB.
With these offensive upgrades, DA might prove to be a solid NFL starter.
You got the first part right..and possibly the second part..I'd rather see a FA QB brought it.. But the last part..dead wrong..DA WILL BE WHAT HE IS....a streaky inconsistant low IQ QB..he teases fans who don't understand his game..they get excited by his gun and fooled by his mistakes..he makes too many for my liking..his doesn't make the sound decisions and he leaves to many opportunities on the field for me.
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you won't find many here who will be unfair in their assessments on DA. if you're looking for that, you'll find your buddies at the other board.
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Dc,,, too many if's.... why do you think Baltimore released him in '05' ??? 
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agreed. with the timing, it's like the switch from frye to DA. all the receivers are used to the ball taking a certain amount of time and now it's getting to them faster. maybe it's just me but i could swear DA threw it softer than he used to as the balls had the slightest arc on them, as if he was trying his damnest to not laser them in. unfortunately, if that is the case, it still wasn't enough.
that said, though, the majority of this throws were accurate to very accurate. he made two bone-headed decisions by my count. the throw down field to double-coverage and the int.
i'm encouraged by his play and i think the rest of the team is responding as well. people can say it's the benching itself that sparked teh team but i believe it's DA's play that has the ripple effect to all other parts of our team's play. it's not even that DA played that well, just that the offense took a step towards capable, so our defense can play fired up.
what i loved was seeing the defense patting DA when he went back on the sideline (either after the INT or it was after being forced to punt).
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Option 1: DA = gives us a chance to beat a good Cinci team Option 2: BQ = gives us a chance to beat our heads in each week
I'll chose option 1 given the choices. That's not to say that DA is the be-all, end-all for us at QB but w/ the choices available he's by far the best choice. Not even close.
For the foreseeable future, DA should start and run the show. If that results in a bad team that drafts high, then we have to take a QB and move on.
I would love to have K2 back though... I'll deal with his stuff off the field to get that threat on the field. Royal just doesn't cut it.
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Dc,,, too many if's.... why do you think Baltimore released him in '05' ???
I'm pretty sure that before they found out what Flacco could do, they would have taken him back in a heartbeat... All but about 4 or 5 QBs in this league have some "ifs" surrounding them... speaking of that, anybody still want Jason Campbell? 
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Dc,,, too many if's.... why do you think Baltimore released him in '05' ???
I'm pretty sure that before they found out what Flacco could do, they would have taken him back in a heartbeat... All but about 4 or 5 QBs in this league have some "ifs" surrounding them... speaking of that, anybody still want Jason Campbell?
What ???  Flaco was rookie yr. last yr.. look what he did.... what has DA done since sept. 2005... wow........ 
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