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BRAYLON EDWARDS IS BACK IN CLEVELAND!!!!
He couldn't catch his plane.

I heard when he got to the airport to get his ticket, he dropped it

I heard he was really hurt at the news, but decided to just let it bounce off him.

I read the first 30 posts and then had to go to work...

Overall, I'm happy with what we got back. Stuckey is a pretty good #2 but better as a #3 slot receiver. Long term, there is no need for Furrey and Stuckey with Stuckey having more upside. If we could only get Robiske on the field now, that would be great.

In regards to draft picks...I'll take what I can get. It's actually more then what I thought we'd get especially when you look at getting Stuckey too. Not sure what people expected when you take at the whole body of work in which his career has been.

My guess is he'll have a great year ala 2007 but if he plays like the guy he's been for the past 1.25 years and if he thinks the fans/media in Cleveland were tough on him...then I hope for his own sanity that he shapes up.

oh man...this is becoming a deadbate...cant you all just make like Braylon and drop it?

braylon is going to hate the New York media.. he hasn't seen NOTHING yet... not to mention the fans when he starts dropping passes...

If it drifted right TO him, he still wouldn't catch it !

You should see what the Jets are saying, its hilarious what Jets fans think

They don't know Edwards very well....the "minute" Edwards don't get the ball thrown his way, he will slack off and be lazy...I predict he drops "atleast" 2 dropped passes in his first game...the sad thing is he will be wide open when it happens

Edwards had a great year in 2007 because Chud threw him the ball, once he was double covered, and Winslow got more looks, he whined and cried and began this funk

mark my words, the Jets will wish they never made this trade...we robbed them...got 2 "immediate" contributers and draft picks....Edwards is what he is...a receiver with inconsistent hands

Quincey Morgan actually had "better" size and was a bit faster than Edwards, but he still suffered the dropsies...even on 3 different teams, part of the reason the Steelers didn't keep Morgan

Edwards has trouble with routine catches, and he will continue to struggle

Edwards tries to catch the ball "with his chest" and not with his hands

Winslow was a "natural" ball catcher because he ALWAYS reaches out with his hands to catch the ball

Edwards jumps up and 9 out of 10 times ALWAYS tries to use his chest to catch the ball

Edwards is not a natural pass catcher, and it will be extremely difficult now to break him of these habits

Antonio Bryant also catches with his hands, Edwards don't...Edwards will be plagued with drops because of this

You watch Stucky when he plays, he catches "with his hands" he reaches out just like Winslow...Stucky is no Winlow in terms of talent, or speed, but he does catch 9 out of 10 balls thrown to him

Brett Farve raved about this kid, said he is a up and coming receiver in this league

I find it funny the Jets think they really got something, while we rob their cupboards dry...to give up not only Stuckey, but probably one of the top 3 Special Teams players in the AFc is just retarded on the Jets part

Imagine our Special Teams with Cribbs and this kid...Best Special Teams unit in the AFC by far, and Cribbs will benefit GREATLY from the addition of this kid

Jets fans are drinking the kool-aid now, soon they will find out he has stonehands...when that happens, the cat will be out the bag...LMAO

this trade just brightened my whole day!

What gets me is, I know Michigan fans that think he was the same back then,....why did we waste a pick on him ?

Edwards is content not to get a new contract

Posted by Mike Florio on October 7, 2009 9:33 PM ET
The Jets traded for receiver Braylon Edwards without signing him to a new contract. In his first meeting with the New York media as a member of the New York Jets, Edwards said that's fine by him.

"I don't want to be a distraction," Edwards said in comments distributed by the team. "Right now, all I want to do is play football. They've got a machine moving in the right direction, so to sit here and try to talk about a new contract would be pretty petty. I'm happy with where I'm at now. I'm happy with my contract. It doesn't bother me. I really just want to get out there and play football."

Despite weeks and months of rumors that a trade might be happening, Edwards said that he "had no clue" the deal was coming.

"I got the call from Coach Mangini at 7:45 am [Wednesday]," Edwards said. "He called when I was on my way to the facility. He called me and told me to come up and see him when I got in. I went up there and he told me that the trade had happened."

Edwards also talked about his off-field image, which took a hit only two days before the trade after he was accused of punching Edward Givens, a friend of NBA star LeBron James who, based on LeBron's desciption, sounds like he'd lose an arm-wrestling match to Steve Urkel.

"I do feel like I'm trying to create, not a new image, but I'm trying to just brush it up a little bit in order to be [a] good guy," Edwards said. "I've done some good things. I believe there are some other incidents there, so know you have some people who say, 'Is he this or is he that?' Some people are still on this side and some people that are still on that side. That's what I mean by fresh start. I can come with all the negativity that'Ê out there about me and I can come here and perform well on Sundays, on Mondays, practice hard and prove to my teammates and coaches that I'm a good guy and let everything else play its course. Eventually, I'll get that good guy tag undoubtedly."

We're not sure we would put money on that one, but we wish Edwards the best, if he's serious about trying.

And a good start would be to resolve the situation in Cleveland with Edward Givens, if the allegation against Edwards is indeed true.


PFT.com

Browns players catch Mangini's drift after coach trades Edwards
Associated Press


BEREA, Ohio -- Empty hangers, a pair of shoulder pads, one penny and a single blade of grass were all that remained in the corner stalls in the Cleveland Browns' locker room. Those spaces were previously occupied by the team's most animated player and biggest talent.

Braylon Edwards was gone -- just like that.

New coach Eric Mangini doesn't tolerate troublemakers.

"This is a business, and the business is winning," Browns offensive tackle Joe Thomas said. "And the man in charge is going to decide if you're helping us win.

"If you're not, you're going to be gone."

Mangini traded Edwards, the high-maintenance wide receiver whose five seasons in Cleveland were marked by sensational catches, crucial drops and off-the-field issues, to the New York Jets on Wednesday for wide receiver Chansi Stuckey, linebacker Jason Trusnik and two 2010 draft picks.

The trade came two days after Edwards was accused of punching a friend of NBA superstar LeBron James outside a Cleveland nightclub. Mangini shipped Edwards to his former team, which has been looking for a No. 1 target for talented rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez.

A deal involving Edwards has been rumored for months, but it was met with shock by some Browns players still coming to grips with Mangini's methods.

"I was very surprised when I heard," linebacker D'Qwell Jackson said. "Braylon had his troubles here -- whatever issues he had -- with the organization. You never know, and that's the reality of this business. Coach Mangini has a way that he does things. We have to keep doing what we're doing and understand that everybody has to work.


"Edwards wanted out of Cleveland and Eric Mangini wants his type of guys there. I don't think Edwards fit the mold and after his alleged fisticuffs with one of King James' friends, that pushed things over the edge."

"Cleveland parted ways with someone it didn't think was part of its long-term future and got a decent young guy in Chansi Stuckey and draft picks." Transcript ... "Everybody has a job to do, and everyone's replaceable."

Mangini wouldn't say if Edwards' alleged altercation, which came hours after he failed to catch a pass for the first time in 62 career NFL games, played a part in the timing of his trade.

He didn't have to.

"Personal conduct is important to me," Mangini said.

Mangini said Edwards didn't ask to be traded and that they had a good conversation before parting ways.

"This is a fresh start for him," Mangini said. "In terms of what we were able to do with the trade, it's good for us."

This is the second major deal that Mangini has struck with the Jets, who fired him in January after three years as their head coach. On draft day, Mangini sent them the No. 5 pick, which they used to draft Sanchez.

Before dealing Edwards, Mangini said he discussed the move with Browns owner Randy Lerner. He also said the team had other opportunities to move Edwards.

"Contrary to popular belief, we do trade with teams other than the Jets, and we do talk to teams other than the Jets," Mangini said. "You move forward based on that."

In trading the dissatisfied Edwards, Mangini sent another message to his players: Play by my rules or else.

Mangini previously traded tight end Kellen Winslow, who like Edwards, let his ego get in the way of team goals. Still, the two were Cleveland's best offensive weapons, combining for 162 catches, 2,395 yards and 21 touchdowns in 2007, when both made the Pro Bowl.


Quarterback Derek Anderson disputed the idea that Edwards and Winslow were a two-headed monster.

"I wouldn't say they were always a problem," Anderson said. "Everybody has issues in their life. They weren't here raising heck day in and day out. Both of them are really good football players and will continue to do good things in their careers."

Mangini's my-way-or-the-highway approach has rubbed some Browns players the wrong way. There has been grumbling about his fines for petty offenses such as parking in the wrong stall or having a cell phone go off during a meeting.

But rules are rules, and linebacker David Bowens, one of 10 former Jets who Mangini brought from New York, said players need to understand there will be penalties for misbehavior.

"It's not like it's a total dictatorship around here," he said.

Thomas believes it should be clear by now that Mangini and his coaching staff mean what they say.

"That's been the message since he got here," Thomas said. "You're gonna do things the way you're supposed to do it and told to do it, and if you're not, then we'll find somebody else."

Edwards was walking a thin line with Mangini long before he allegedly punched James' friend in the face. The NFL and Cleveland police are still investigating the incident.


Edwards was out partying in March with wide receiver Donte Stallworth the night that Stallworth drove drunk and killed a pedestrian in Miami. Edwards was an irregular participant in Mangini's offseason programs and missed part of minicamp and training camp with an ankle injury that he sustained while playing basketball.

Before Mangini's arrival, Edwards' list of transgressions was growing nearly as fast as his stat sheet of 100-yard receiving games.

Edwards argued with teammates and criticized coaches. He chartered a helicopter to attend the 2006 Ohio State-Michigan game despite being told not to go. He severely cut his heel while running in his socks after practice. Last year, he pleaded guilty to driving 120 mph.

Edwards is gone but not forgotten. As he headed out to practice, backup Browns quarterback Brady Quinn pointed to his shiny orange cleats -- a pair left behind by Edwards.

"In honor of Braylon," Quinn said.


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As he headed out to practice, backup Browns quarterback Brady Quinn pointed to his shiny orange cleats -- a pair left behind by Edwards.

"In honor of Braylon," Quinn said.

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What a tool-bag.

I'd file him in the deusch category.

Man, for years I've been blasting this team for being undisciplined both on and off the field. The off-field incidents were a constant with this team, and the lack of focus that comes from all the constant distractions has made us the butt of every imaginable NFL joke.

Personally, I don't mind a bit of hardass approach with this bunch. Every coach we've had has tried everything BUT that. It's about time someone came here and made these players into a team... instead of a bunch of individuals who dress alike.

I'm thinking that this is the first (most necessary) step towards building a professional organization.

I wish it had happened sooner.

Clem and others,
Look, its nice to say that we should cut this and that player, but if this needed to get done, it should have been done in April or May, NOT OCTOBER!!.

This was a bone-headed move by Mangenious! Not that I think BE is wonderful and was a great find. But what the hell is a struggling offense going to do now?? Can someone please tell me who DA is throwing to now?? Remember, even with BE's non consistent catching self, he still got double teamed. So Mo-Mass will get single covered and might get open/might not, Furrey is a slot receiver who is too small to be a legit #2, Robiske has been sitting the pine and the Cribbs experiment was deamed over. So who do we throw too??
Also, with that as your core, we will see more 8 in near the line of scrimmage, taking the remaining running game away!!

Then lets look at what we got. Some more REJECT NY Jets!!. Both players are rejects! One is a special teamer and the other is a backup receiver who could not break into the NY Jets sorry receiving core! Then you got a 3rd and a 5th!! Just great!! Say a 2nd and a 3rd, I might pack BE's bags myself. But that 3rd and 5th, we got duped. ( AGAIN)

When we only score 1 more touchdown in the remaining games, remind me of the great trade!

That might be because he was double teamed most of the year. SO which one of our remaining receivers do you think will get double teamed at all??? And if BE was such the headache, then why didn't Mangini or anyone else in the organization pull BE in a meeting and straighten him out?? Again, I have not problem with getting rid of him, just not now, after off-season workouts, training camp and 4 games..

Toad,
Your right, this year he is starting. But Sanchez has not been looking at him much, Cotchery has been getting most of the catches.

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Crennel did. Crennel fined him. Crennel benched him. Crennel chastised him.

Jurevicius did.

This year, Mangini did. Mangini fined him.

Edwards' ego can't be stopped.

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I might believe the Crennel quote but the last two just make me laugh! Jurevicius and Mangini. Yup, that fine for the water, yea, that was a real straightening out right there!!..LMAO!!.. why would you even say that one!

What I'm talking about is one where you have owner/GM/Coach in a room with player and you let him know what is expected of him. If he does not understand, then he is gone. BTW - I do this in April/May, not when the season starts!!

As far as the rest of your statements, so what. If you do not like him, fine, that is your opinion. But do not say it helps this team. His stats will not reach the level to get a higher draft pick because the jets run the ball. And oh yea, how does it help this offense right now?? Who does DA throw too??

I'll say it again...

A). We ain't playing for anything this year except foundation & pride. The folks that are the most nuts right now are the one's that thought we'd sniff 8-8 or better. Yea, sorry 'bout that.

+B). Bray Bray was GONE after this year. Period. Nothing but the memory of his wafting CK-1, some empty 5-hour energy bottles and a few '07 youtube clips to remind us of what could have been.

Which means...

=C). The Jets give us a decent receiver, a special teams kid and 2 mid level draft picks for what amounts to 12 games of BE's services. Sure they get first crack at him before next year but that means the same squat to us now as it did two days ago. He wasn't staying here and I'm betting he tests free agency now anyway... delusion seems to be in his mental makeup. We get more re-building blocks in next years draft. Sure, playing for foundation and pride is indeed important and BE did create problems for defenses but lets not understate the importance of getting value for something that will soon have none and currently holds little. At this point with this team getting that kind of value is very VERY important.

I like the deal - Edwards was outta here after this season and we aren't about to contend this year, so get 2 more draft picks and 2 more players. Mangini is trying to build a Bellichik based team here and Bill loves accumulating draft picks out of the first round. He also will dump a player that thinks they are greater than the team.

I can't blame him for mimicking the Pats.

well here's a longshot... but remember B.Edwards didnt do a new contract with the Jets either.. he still becomes a FA at the end of the year... a big what if.... we can still get him back.. not that we want him.. or he wants to come back..