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Okay.. so starting off 0-4.. This is the first time I've done a mock this EARLY.. almost surprising, but man... I'd also like to see what other people come up with too... Here is mine:

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Round 1, Pick# 1 - Eric Berry - Tennessee
Safety - 6'0 - 195 lbs.
Handsdown, THE best safety in the NCAA. The AFC North has two of the best safeties in Reed and Troy P., and the Browns need to add that threat to their secondary. Fast.. Versatile.. Lays wood.. He truly has a knack for getting his hands on the ball. Whether the Browns have a top five pick or not.. this guy is worth it, even as a Safety!!

Round 2, Pick# 1 - Brandon Spikes - Florida
MLB - 6'3 - 244 lbs.
Okay.. The Browns missed out on Rey Rey.. could be a good thing because Spikes is 10x better. He brings attitude to his defenses and is a leader. Spikes behind Shaun Rogers, and next to D'Qwell Jackson... I dare RB's to run to the middle.. Won't be a smart move b/c he just may end a few careers with his punishing demeanor.

Round 3, Pick# 1 - Greg Romeus - Pittsburgh
OLB - 6'5 - 265 lbs.
Wow.. This guy is huge, and is causing HAVOC in the backfied for the opposing offenses. The Browns need help rushing the passer, and also setting the edge so HB's cannot run to the edge for big plays. Romeus.. o Romeus.. Where are thou Romeus!! This guy may actually shoot up into the first round at the end of the season/combine.. but a lot of people have never heard of him.

Round 3, Pick# 2 - Adam Ulatoski - Texas
OT - 6'8 - 310 lbs.
Mammoth RT. Enough said. The Browns weakness is their right side of the line. A lot of old free agent fillers at the moment, and it's about time for them all to retire. Enter Youth. Enter Dominant Tackle.

Round 4, Pick# 1 - Willie Young - N.C. State
OLB - 6'5 - 243 lbs.
Willie Young is a great pass rusher. He knows how to get to the QB. He knows how to tackle HB's behind the LOS. Behind Wimbley and A.Hall.. the Browns have no depth at OLB. Young is depth, and could push for Wimbley's spot and/or keep him fresh. Great NFL defenses normally draft front 7 regardless of depth. Well the Browns can start out by getting a solid LB to hit Big Ben, Flacco, and Palmer.

Round 5, Pick# 1 - John Jerry - Ole Miss
OG - 6'5 -350 lbs.
Okay. There is always a HUGE GUARD that comes out that is projected VERY VERY HIGH.. and they always fall to day two.. Jerry will be no different. He is a MONSTER, as in Shaun Rogers MONSTER. He will be great with the run, and Mangini wants to run. Also, there are a lot of guards/ tackles on the Browns roster, that should not even be in the league. John Jerry. Welcome to Cleveland.

Round 5, Pick# 2 - Alterraun Verner - UCLA
CB - 5'11 - 179 lbs.
Okay.. this guy is pretty good. He breaks up passes like he is ALREADY getting paid to do this. QB's are afraid to throw it in his direction. Bye Bye Hank Poteat.. Now the Browns have 5 SOLID YOUNG corners in Wright, McDonald, Francies, Lawson, and VERNER!!

Round 5, Pick# 3 - LeGarrette Blount - Oregon
HB - 6'2 - 240 lbs.
It is so hard to judge where this guy will get drafted.. IF he is drafted at all. He pulled a huge STUNT by hitting that Boise guy.. BUT.. Jamal Lewis is getting old. He can still go.. But he has lost a step. Bring in Blount, and watch defenders shake as they don't want to tackle this guy. I see Brandon Jacobs written all over this guy. His attitude is a risk.. but honestly.. Cleveland needs to bring a no fear prideful son of a gun to their roster. I like the pick, and think he could do well with James Davis and Jerome Harrison. THREE HEADED MONSTER!!

Round 6, Pick# 1 - Kade Weston - Georgia
DE/NT - 6'5 - 322 lbs.
6'5 and over 320 lbs.!! He has potential written all over him. The Browns are actually deep at d-line, but can always use fresh meat with Robaire Smith getting up there in age, as well as Corey Williams status being up in the air with Mangini. Weston has the size to dominate offensive lineman, and he will make a name for himself in the NFL.

Round 6, Pick# 2 - Dan Doering - Iowa
OG - 6'6 - 302 lbs.
I am a FIRM believer that Mangini does not care for Eric Steinbach. Maybe it's because of his TACKLE like contract, and the fact that he plays a little on the light side (below 300). As a result.. Steinbach has another Iowa alum enter Berea. Iowa breeds lineman, and Doering fits the mold of NFL talent. He may not start right away, but as long as Steinbach is there, he can learn from a pro bowl like talent.

Round 7, Pick# 1 - Johnny Spevak - Central Washington
WR - 6'3 - 200 lbs.
I don't believe WR's need to be drafted high. Given that MoMass and Robiskie were taken last year.. not to mention Cribbs and Stuckey as 3rd/4th options, this kid Spevak is doing major things in the NCAA, and deserves a spot on someones team. He scored 20 TD'S!! TWENTY!! Over 1400 yards in ONE season!! Mangini.. DRAFT THIS GUY!!





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Is Brandon Spikes really good? I mean, REALLY good?

If so, I want him. We need a game-changing LB.


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I am just proud of Hotbyoungturk. He was able to get through a whole mock and only pick one Bulldog


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Too much defense. Three linebackers and a safety in our first five picks? I'm not that huge of a Spikes fan either. I'd rather have Jahvid Best or Jonathan Dwyer at that spot.

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Way too early to do a draft ...... but as of right now I see our top needs as S, LB, and TE RB and T.

WR looks to be a huge question mark at this point as well as QB. (But I would be more inclined to build the rest THEN look for a QB if we need to)

Who knows if someone steps up between now and the ed of the year and gets (and takes advantage of) an opportunity?


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The way I look at these mock drafts is that it is all OPINION. You worked really hard on this and I think you did a good job.

It would be dumb of me to nitpick on your mock draft because it is YOUR mock draft. Obviously mine will not be the same nor will anyone else on the board. Plus it is all speculative anyway.

I really like how you focused on bringing in pass rushers and shoring up the offensive and defensive line.

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I liked your draft alot Turk. The only thing I disagree with is I thimk I would take Mays over Berry . At least right now I feel that way.

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I liked your draft alot Turk. The only thing I disagree with is I thimk I would take Mays over Berry . At least right now I feel that way.




Berry is the best... like it says. Hands Down. This isn't even a discussion in my opinion. The guy is in the mold of Ed Reed and will if he hasnt already become the #1 guy in INT Yard and INT TD's in a career by the end of this season.... oh yeah... he is a junior

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After what I saw today...we might be in the top 3.... lets hope Clausen comes out that way we can basically have our choice of Clausen, Bradford, and Berry

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Too much defense.




Completely disagree. We've been inept on defense since we've come back. A defense heavy draft would do wonders for us. We have so many holes on defense that the first 2 or 3 picks could probably be day 1 starters for us.


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We addressed running back, guard and tackle way too late.

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We addressed running back, guard and tackle way too late.




Historically, teams have been able to get NFL quality guards on the second day. So historically speaking not too late on guards.

As for the tackle, he has us taking a tackle in the third round. Considering the tackle would be playing the right side the third round is reasonable.

Keep in mind that not every draft pick is going to give a HOF. He has addressed need areas. Not all need areas will be addressed in every draft, and he has chosen to place an emphasis on OLB instead of drafting a RB higher.

There is nothing wrong with this mock draft.

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I want absolutely nothing to do with LeGarrette Blount unless he seriously matures and gets his act together

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Really? The fact that we have D'Qwell Jackson and a 2nd round rookie at linebacker, and are drafting an inside linebacker with a high 2nd rounder? The fact that we drafted two outside linebackers? And historically, the best guards are drafted higher. And they contribute on a shorter time frame. We need a new starter at right tackle, and a 3rd round draft pick is not likely to come in and do that.

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For those curious.. I used two links to base my mock on where guys should be drafted:

1) Walter Football

2) NFLdraftblitz (To get averages of players/positions taken in each round)




After reading more about this draft and the talent available, I would be very suprised if we don't go defense a majority of the way....The positions that we need filled on offense (RB, WR, TE, RT) are not very well represented this year although QB is kind of stacked. I'm not in love with any of the QB's, but the alternative could be a weak 2011 draft class.

I think there is some very good talent on defense available early in the first round and then some good 2nd/3rd round talent. Offensively, a lot of the guys who might go in 2nd round in previous years will end going late in round 1. While we need talent offensively, I don't really see it in this draft (at least at the top)....maybe some 3rd-5th round talent but I might stay on defense this draft....build up the middle with with some combo of S/MLB/OLB/DE with the first two picks.

If Rolando McClain (ILB in Alabama 3-4 defense) comes out, I'd be all over him...great size and speed. 2nd favorite player behind Eric Berry.


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If I would have put Ulatoski to be drafted in the 2nd, would there be any difference?

And the Veikune pick IMO was kind of far fetched.. Spikes could come in right away and do his thing... Veikune four years from now will still be "learning" the position, ie Josh Cribbs @ WR. Spikes is a true MLB, and will set a nice tone for this defense.

Veikune and Maiva would be great depth though.. This is how I imagined the depth charts at LB:

LOLB: Alex Hall / Greg Romeus
MLB: DQ/ Spikes/ Veikune/ Maiva
ROLB: Wimbley / Willie Young

I like that... fresh legs to get you through 60 minutes of brutal football.. You need it.. Playing in the AFC especially.. you have to have a great defense to compete EVERY year....

Also for the past 3 years... only about 12 guards have been taken in SEVEN rounds each year (only 10 in 2009 draft).. You are still getting cream of the crop even on day 2...

I really wanted to put that HB from Stanford in this mock.. but his stock is RISING FAST!!!! Tony Gerhart I believe.. Also like Dwyer of Georgia Tech, but really think we need to invest those high picks on defense, and not offense...


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Veikune will start next year. You can't expect a guy to make the adjustment from defensive end to inside linebacker in this little time. He is insanely smart, so he won't still be "learning". And it doesn't change the fact that even if he sucks, Mangini and company won't go with three linebackers that high when they have Veikune and Maiava, whom they love.

No, I don't like Ulatowski. Give me someone like Ciron Black in the 2nd. Or a number of guys like Tony Washington of ACU, Sam Young of ND, or Kyle Calloway of Iowa.

I'm sorry, but you don't get the cream of the crop in the 2nd day at any position other than fullback, kicker, punter and longsnapper. I want a stud right guard, taken in the 3rd round at latest.

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Really? The fact that we have D'Qwell Jackson and a 2nd round rookie at linebacker, and are drafting an inside linebacker with a high 2nd rounder? The fact that we drafted two outside linebackers? And historically, the best guards are drafted higher. And they contribute on a shorter time frame. We need a new starter at right tackle, and a 3rd round draft pick is not likely to come in and do that.





The way the thread was started it was to post your mid-mock drafts. Not to bash other people's by pointing out there errors.

There can be more than one draft expert on this website

This is for fun! There really is no wrong answers. It is a mock draft for a reason.

Playing devil's advocate, don't forget there is some uncertainty with DQ and his contract, plus in a 3-4 you need quality lbs. Which is something that we are lacking.

Instead of being negative and ripping other's mock drafts, I would love to see yours. Not to rip yours but rather to see what good ideas you have. Because I am sure there are some players you would pick that we have not thought of.

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Veikune will start next year. You can't expect a guy to make the adjustment from defensive end to inside linebacker in this little time. He is insanely smart, so he won't still be "learning".




He's not insanely smart. Insanely smart is making a breakthrough in molecular physics.

With that said he's not a lump on a log but he's also no Myron Rolle either.

He didn't blow people away on any intelligence tests and he was a decent student. How does that make someone "insanely" smart?


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I think we need to draft a qb in the first 3 rounds... one of them is bound to be successful..


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He didn't blow people away on any intelligence tests and he was a decent student. How does that make someone "insanely" smart?




If deepthreat says he is insanely smart, then he must be insanely smart.. maybe Veikune helps deepthreat with his homework, so that he can get a little smile face from Mrs. Crabtree?

Veikune will not get it in not just ONE year.. and he will not start unless there is some type of injury, and/or Barton is not here.

And you want to tell me that out of all the college football teams in the nation, when only TWELVE are getting taken, that they are not cream of the crop... Its almost like saying in school that you were the top 10% of your class... Same goes for guards. Only problem with the guard position, is you don't hear a lot about them, except maybe the top 2 or 3... But that doesn't mean the others out there are not as talented.

plus.. John Jerry is no bust.. and Dan Doering is no joke.. May have not made a name for himself at Iowa (may have.. I don't know) but he was the stuff coming out of High School.. I think he was named Gatorade player of the year... a lineman.. wow..


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I think we need to draft a qb in the first 3 rounds... one of them is bound to be successful..




Sometimes when I'm thinking outside the box I have that logic as well.

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Veikune will start next year. You can't expect a guy to make the adjustment from defensive end to inside linebacker in this little time. He is insanely smart, so he won't still be "learning".




He's not insanely smart. Insanely smart is making a breakthrough in molecular physics.

With that said he's not a lump on a log but he's also no Myron Rolle either.

He didn't blow people away on any intelligence tests and he was a decent student. How does that make someone "insanely" smart?




LOL, pretty sure he means intelligence on the football field, not in the classroom.

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I don't intent to come off as bashing someone's opinion. I am simply stating mine. And I posted a full first round mock already. I'll probably post another one soon. I have no ill qualms about being wrong. It's happened plenty of times before.

Held - In his first week at rookie minicamps, he was able to diagram what everyone was doing on a certain play Yes, he is insanely smart.

HotB - Mangini says he is insanely smart (paraphrasing a little). Not just me.

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Defense baby... We can draft Spikes, and Veikune could still get SOME time.. but I don't ever think he will be a game changer...


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Spikes is a beast. We could always pick up Tim Tebow in the later rounds to bring along with him as well!

I'm hoping we take care of our QB issue in the off-season and shore up a couple other immediate needs first (S/LB/RT to be specific).

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1. Eric Berry

2. Brandon Spikes

3. Sam Young

I'd call it a day

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And you have no reason of knowing that. I know for a fact that a lot of teams loved Veikune.

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Loved him, as in "I love this guy - he could be a steal in the fourth round"?
because hardly anyone (IIRC from reading post-draft articles) saw Veikune going in the top 2 rounds.


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Here's one from SI.com, which had going in the top 75.


ANALYSIS: Veikune is an intense prospect who gets the most from his abilities. He's a solid football player who will be productive in the right system or with proper coaching. Veikune may need time to develop at the next level, but he is worth the investment of a top 75 selection.


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Love him as in many teams were mad that we drafted him there, because they were going to take him soon.

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forgot how strong last year's draft was for RB's

4. Darren McFadden
13. Jonathan Stewart
22. Felix Jones
23. Rashad Mendenhall
24. Chris Johnson
44. Matt Forte
55. Ray Rice
64. Kevin Smith
89. Steve Slaton
122. Tashard Choice (we chose Bell and Rucker before him)
149. Tim Hightower


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Love him as in many teams were mad that we drafted him there, because they were going to take him soon.




Any quotes anywhere backing this up?


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122. Tashard Choice (we chose Bell and Rucker before him)





Wow, didn't we also trade up for those


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Way too early to do mocks, but I'll play:

Looking at the Walter Football link, assuming the players taken before us in that draft is true, here's where I'd go:

Round 1) Gerald McCoy, DT (Oklahoma)
Round 2) Sergio Kindle, OLB (Texas)
Round 3a) Nate Allen, FS (South Florida)
Round 3b) Tony Pike, QB (Cincinnati)
Round 4) Chris Scott, OT (Tennessee)
Round 5a) Jordan Shipley, WR (Texas)
Round 5b) Thomas Austin, OG (Clemson)
Round 6a) D'Anthony Smith, DE (La Tech)
Round 6b) Dedrick Epps, TE (Miami)
Round 7) Pat Angerer, ILB (Iowa)

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1. Eric Berry S Tn

2. Jerry Hughes DE/OLB TCU

3. Ciron Black OT LSU

3. Perrish Cox CB Ok St

4. Brandon Deadrick DE Ala

5. Montario Hardesty RB TN

5 Zac Robinson OK st

6. Lagarrett Blount RB O (take a shot)

7. Shay Hodge WR Ole Miss

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Hmmm 5 out of your 9 picks are SEC guys.

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Why not play....here goes:

Round1 Eric Berry, S, Tenn (I wanted Suh, but they have him gone)
Round2 Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas (Spikes is good, but OLB > ILB)
Round3a DeMardo Murray, RB, Oklahoma (wanted RT, but none I love there)
Round3b Tony Pike, QB, Cincy (going off others opinions that he should be higher as I haven't seen much of him)
Round4 Chris Marinelli, RT, Stanford (started since freshman year and the Cardinal always run his way when they need the tough yards)
Round5a Ben Ossai, OT/OG, Washington (he plays OT now, but he could be a good RG in the NFL....very big guy)
Round5b Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA (nose for the ball)
Round6a Al Woods, DT, LSU (he'd be DE for us...hopefully catch a break on his stock dropping due to injury)
Round6b Dominique Harris, S, Temple (solid tackler...should help on STs which is what we look for this late)
Round7 Vincent Rey, OLB, Duke (bad 40 time, but all he does is make plays)


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