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First off....where is Rucker? Could he be any worse than Royal? Heiden cant stretch a D and isnt what he used to be a few years back. JMO... To the subject.....I watched Robiskie really look solid blocking. I dont know if anyone else saw this but he impressed me there. The positives.... 1. He can catch....he has VERY good hands. 2. He runs crisp routes. 3. Blocks very good for a WR (as good as KW) The negatives.... 1. He needs to gain about 25 lbs. 2. Havent seen him block a DE yet. 3. Lacks speed for a WR...descent quickness. I really think there could be a possibility that Robo could gain some weight and work on a already good blocking skill set and be a a solid TE. With work he could fit the mold of a KW , Gonzo , Sharp type.  Who knows....just thinking out loud about something that jumped out during that pitiful game yesterday.  What do some of you guys think? Its far fetched but yet still worthy of thought. 
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At 6'3" and 209 lbs, he would have to be the smallest TE in the league ..Not sure that would work out..,
Rucker got released..
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You have to read the whole post Daman.......  I did say he would have to gain weight...about 25lbs (maybe more) Thats not hard to do these days.
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I don't think Biskie can gain 25 lbs. He's always been skinny.
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We need WR's as bad as we need TE's....let's try to develop him there first...
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we should either get a TE in free agency or draft one next season. No experimentation please......
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I would rather throw some weight on Cribbs and try him out at TE then Robo. But I see no need to experiment, I would much rather get Owen Daniels next year.
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We will address this position next year....I feel he wont be here next year to develop.
He can gain 25lbs. Trust me...seen it done....NO matter his frame.
Just thinking out loud.....i guess everyone can go back to the bash DA and the WR threads.....thanks for the in depth thought guys. lol
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Why would he not be here next year to develop? Even Mangini isn't dumb enough to cut a 2nd round pick after his rookie season.
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Nice thought clutch....We need Cribbs with the ball as much as possible...he just cant catch though....
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Thanks Clutch....If he is here.....he will be pushed way down the depth chart. Its just a Butch Davis gut feeling.
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Myself, I don't think Heiden is getting enough PT,...
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Players are played in a lot of different positions than drafted if there skill set fits it.
Its not always looked at as a experiment.
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We need WR's as bad as we need TE's....let's try to develop him there first...
We will address this position next year....I feel he wont be here next year to develop.
He can gain 25lbs. Trust me...seen it done....NO matter his frame.
Just thinking out loud.....i guess everyone can go back to the bash DA and the WR threads.....thanks for the in depth thought guys. lol
Not that he's a speed merchant, but 25 would really slow BR down, no ? Might make him a good TE though,...I don't watch close enough to know if he can block ?
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I would rather throw some weight on Cribbs and try him out at TE then Robo.
Yeah, lets throw 30-40 pounds onto our best ST player on returns and coverage because he could gain this weight easily before next week and it wouldn't hurt his return game at all. Solid plan.
Original poster- No, Robiskie is a wideout not a TE.
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You have to read the whole post Daman.......
I read the whole comment,, but I don't feel he can put on 25 lbs.. in fact even if he did, he'd still probably be 25 lbs too light.., JMO however..
The more important thing is you don't give up on a 2nd round pick at his drafted position so quickly and certanly not at this juncture either.. I do believe that's what this would amount to..
We do need a different TE.. Heiden is getting up in age and isn't the guy he used to be. Royal may block well, but as for catching,, He's just not reliable enough to make a difference.
So I do know what you mean and I understand that you are just looking for answers. I just don't think he's it at TE.. As I said, it's just my opijnion..
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Heiden has good hands but his speed and quickness has gone..... He never had much to start with.....but he has always played with lots of desire and given 110%...his skills though now are diminishing.
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Robiskie is a wideout not a TE.
Have you watched him...he might play into a solid 4th Wr in time. That worries me.
He has trouble getting seperation on a nickel or dime back.
One may say if you put 25 -30 lbs on him it will be worse? Maybe...maybe not. He will have a LB over him most of the time...especially if he blocks as well as i feel he can.
Oh well...its a discussion anyway!!!!
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Maybe we should have tried to get TE Keller from the Jets straight up for BE?
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Have you watched him...he might play into a solid 4th Wr in time.
I've watched him every week for 4 years.....he will develop and will do so quickly when continuity is established behind C and he is allowed to develop by the coaching staff. He will be a solid #2....at least has the potential to be.
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No... Robo isn't strong enough yet to be an NFL wideout. He will NEVER be strong enough to be a TE in this league.
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Enough of this nonsense...maybe what we should have done was keep and work in the guy that was drafted to replace K2..Rucker..since he was hardly on the field I can't say if the kid was good or not..I just know what he was @ Mizzu...pretty darn good.. Royal is no recieving TE..he is horrible..
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That release of Rucker still confounds me.. I've not heard a good reason yet.. Given our lack of talent at TE,, how bad did he have to be in camp to be cut like that.. strange..
Only saw the kid play a few games as a brown.. nothing to write home about, but when the ball was thown to him, I seem to remember him catching it...
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How bout the other invisible 2nd rounder, Veikune, can he play....TE? 
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I know it puzzles me..one comment was made to me in preseason had to do with blocking..well guess what?
Sometimes you have one diminsional players..use them if they can excel at whatever strength they have...our DB's are decent covers but they can't tackle worth a lick..actually they don't cover worth another lick either 
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Yea i missed the release of Rucker. I thought he had really good hands and he seemed to be quick offthe ball.....seemed a shock to me that he wasn't given the chance.  Given the fact Rucker is studing out....  Moe - Viekune? How bout fatting him up and playing him at RT???? 
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I would rather throw some weight on Cribbs and try him out at TE then Robo.
Yeah, lets throw 30-40 pounds onto our best ST player on returns and coverage because he could gain this weight easily before next week and it wouldn't hurt his return game at all. Solid plan.
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Man I should have ignored you a long time ago. Ah well never too late I guess.
I've been suggesting people do that for years.
All he does is bash people that disagree with him.
I say no to Robiske at TE
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Deep, I just don't see Robo as a TE. He weighs 210 lbs right now. Even the "athletic" TEs weigh 250lbs or more.
Looking around the league...
Vernon Davis: 253 lbs
Dallas Clark: 256 lbs
Mercedes Lewis: 275 lbs
Tony Gonzalez: 251 lbs
Kellen Winslow: 240 lbs
Winslow is the only one there under 250 and he's an absolute monster of an athlete while Robo has good hands, but is nowhere near the reciever K2 is.
So Robo +25lbs puts him around 235 lbs, which would make him one of, if not THE smallest tight end in the NFL.
While I don't think he's cut out to be a TE, I think he could develop into a nice underneath threat ala JJ a few years back for us.
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Yea i missed the release of Rucker. I thought he had really good hands and he seemed to be quick offthe ball.....seemed a shock to me that he wasn't given the chance.
Given the fact Rucker is studing out....
Moe - Viekune? How bout fatting him up and playing him at RT????
I'd try him at QB if it would get him on the field.I'm disturbed about what seems to be a trend. Seems like we'd draft guys they'd play and prove they were a bad choice ala Dropcutt Morgan etc
Now we draft guys and they never see the field Bell, Rucker,Carey Robiskie Veikune. 
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Yeah, I can read. I read what you wrote after. That doesn't make it any less of an inane comment and I'm sorry that you got your little feelings hurt by me saying it was an inane comment....it is what it is.
Too many people are grasping for straws on ways to possibly improve a position, thinking they can change this guy into something that he aint or that guy into something that he aint.....they had grand DELusions (sorry Styx) of this squad going 12-4 and winning the North while in a rebuilding year under a new regime because a couple of other teams have done it in the recent past. You know and I know it doesn't work that way.....
Josh Cribbs is not a RB or WR and Robiskie is not a TE.............
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Shep...its just a discusssion to give thoughts...not to be taken serious. It is still possible....Sorry Shep it does happen (early in guys career) which is why i gave the thought. I guess we can go back to the Bash DA threads or the FIRE MANGINI thread. Maybe the SELL THE TEAM thread.  Just a different discussion...ENJOY it guys.
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Given a timed 40.... Robiskie is one of are fastest WR. Ran a low 4.4-4.5 at the combine. I understand that's in shorts... but that would suggest he has what we need to get open. MoMass ran a 4.6... Right now he just needs to work on his release from the line of scrimmage and we have to target him. Not sure how much can be put on last game cause we only threw like 10 passes all of the game. I still think he'll be a good one.
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I agree that they both will be good ones.....but they have to get reps and putting Cribbs at wideout was a gaffe....
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I would have to say.....neither is much of a wide receiver at this time either.
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I'm disappointed that Biskie hasn't done as well so far as I thought.
I was really hoping to have egg on my face after dogging him for years.
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I hope with a REAL qb sometime in the future we can maximize some of the talent on this team. When things go bad....NO ONE looks as good as they can... Its the ULTIMATE team sport!!!!! Thats as positive as i can be at this time!!!!
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That release of Rucker still confounds me.. I've not heard a good reason yet.. Given our lack of talent at TE,, how bad did he have to be in camp to be cut like that.. strange..
Only saw the kid play a few games as a brown.. nothing to write home about, but when the ball was thown to him, I seem to remember him catching it...
I was surprised at his release as well, but to my knowledge he hasn't signed with anyone else. Maybe he doesn't have what it takes.
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