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1 game already in the books - Boise State surviving against Tulsa. To be viewed as a serious contender, Boise was gonna have to not only win - but destroy - their schedule. I don't think that's right but it is what it is. Perhaps they needed that test and will roll from here.

Big game tonight as undefeated Cincy(8) travels to undefeated South Florida(21). The dream ends tonight for the Bearcats - I'm sure it was nice while it lasted.

Other big games around the country...
- Red River Shootout, Texas vs. Oklahoma
- Virginia Tech at Georgia Tech
- USC at Notre Dame
- Iowa at Wisconsin
- Arkansas at Florida
- South Carolina at Alabama
- Ohio State at Purdue
- Texas Tech at Nebraska

Also Hawaii at Idaho, Central Michigan at Western Michigan, Cal at UCLA, Marshall at WVU, Pitt at Rutgers and of course the NIU Huskies at my Toledo Rockets - get back at it Rockets, you've got to be better than last week.

Discuss...

Lets see what Clausen can do against USC.

Look to watch Suh terrorize Texas tech.

Do you watch the Rockets on a consistant basis? I want to get more opinions about Toledos safety Barry Church coming out this year. I think he could be a decent mid round selection, even if Berry or Mays is selected in the first round. I watched one game and Barry Church was ballhawking all over the field. I didnt notice him much in the game against OSU but he looked like a decent prospect and wanted to see what others had to say about him.

This is what I had posted near the end of The Week 6 Thread,...thanks for starting the new one, BTW

Let's talk Week Seven,...though I still stand firm, "despite poor scheduling," that all of these also rans have a shot at the NC Game only because of The System, I think Boise stubbed their toe last night, and it should reflect in the polls,...whether it will or not--I am not a pollster.

This weekend looks good,...got an elimination game tonight with Cincinnati playing South Florida, both 5-0.

USC and Notre Dame,...the loss there completely eliminates one of them.

Florida should not get tested by Arkansas. Alabama-South Carolina, I want to watch,....definite elimination for one or the other.

Texas-Oklahoma,..Sooners' last chance to redeem/compete for the Big 12's BCS slot,...Texas' possible elimination game.

VaTech-Georgia Tech,...don't know what to think there, except it is an elim game for the Hokies.

And Iowa (Wisconsin), TCU (Colorado State), and Kansas (Colorado) all have what appear to be winnable contests, but not "poll jumpers" for those 3 undefeateds,...

Did I miss anybody ?

any gamblers here?

i wanna know people's take on ND +10.

i bought into the irish hype early in the year and got burned 3 straight weeks... michigan, msu, and purdue, got burned every time.

the +10 seems tempting. 1. because notre dame is at home and they have a very good solid offense. 2. because i really don't think usc is that great, i think they are barely a top 10 team.

so many factors with this game. usc while not great, did go into columbus and beat a not great, but very solid osu team, while notre dame hasn't really played anybody.

i may watch for line movement and go against the public.... which will probably be on dame.

maybe i will play the total. haven't looked at it yet.

I am not a gambler, but I believe you answered your own question,...

Ranked 25, Notre Dame is probably not as close to any BCS game as USC is to The Title Game. I don't see USC "letting down."

The home field advantage is a concern,...but if ND spanked you in those 3 others like you said, and we expect more of the same, and it was MY money, I'm going USC to cover.

How much are we spending,...

Barry Church is the safety from Toledo I was talking about. If anyone gets a chance to watch a Toledo game check this guy out. I dont remember seeing much of him during the OSU game though. Even if the Browns select a Safety early, I would still like to see this guy picked up in the later rounds. Pool probabley wont be re-signed and the other safeties could still use some upgrading. Anyways here is his bio. i would also like to know if anyone else has paid attention to him or noticed his play.
http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbm...DB_OEM_ID=18000
Barry Church
# 8
Safety - S

Height: 6-2 Weight: 219

Senior

Hometown
Pittsburgh, PA
High School
Penn Hills

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Highlights
Listed at No. 1 at star (safety) in preseason depth chart...Candidate for Jim Thorpe Award as the nation’s top defensive back and Bronco Nagurski Award as the nation’s top defensive player...Named third-team preseason All-America by Phil Steele’s College Football Preview...Has a chance to become just the second player in UT history to earn first-team All-MAC honors in four consecutive seasons...The first was Nick Kaczur, now a starting offensive lineman with the New England Patriots.

2008
First-team All-MAC for the third straight year...Second on team and 15th in MAC with 7.8 tackles per game...Led team with six passes broken up and three forced fumbles...10 tackles, one TFL and one forced fumble vs. Miami...10 tackles and first interception of the season vs. WMU...Nine tackles and one TFL in 13-10 win over Michigan...Six tackles vs. Ball State...Seven tackles vs, FIU...10 tackles, one forced fumble, one TFL and one pass broken up vs. Fresno State...Led team with 10 tackles vs. EMU...Tied for team lead with seven tackles vs. Arizona.

2007
First-team All-MAC for the second straight year...Third on team and tied for 18th in MAC with 92 tackles...Also second on team with 6.0 tackles for loss...Tied for team lead with three interceptions and had four pass breakups...Led team with a career-high 19 tackles, including three tackles-for-loss, vs. Iowa State on Sept. 22...His 19 stops were the most by a Rocket since Tom Ward had 22 stops vs. Ball State on Oct.12, 2002, and the 12th-most in the country last season...Led team with 13 tackles vs. WMU on Sept. 29...Also had an interception vs. WMU...Named No. 20 strong safety in the nation by Phil Steele’s College Football magazine.


2006
First-team All-MAC...Named second-team Freshman All-America by The Sporting News and by Scout.com...Placed third in balloting for MAC Freshman of the Year...Led Rockets with four interceptions...Ran back two picks for touchdowns, tying a school record...Second on team with 71 tackles...Led team with 10 tackles in Iowa State and WMU games...Ran back an interception 84 yards for a fourth-quarter TD in 37-31 2OT win over Kansas...Also recovered a KU fumble in the second OT...Ran back a 31-yard INT vs. Bowling Green...Had an interception and two pass breakups against Akron.


High School
Named to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review’s "Terrific 25" team and second-team all-state Class AAAA as a safety as a senior...Named the No. 42 safety in the country by Rivals.com...Also earned first-team Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League-East honors, and was selected to play in the Big 33 Game (Ohio vs. Pennsylvania)...As a senior he had 80 tackles, nine sacks and four interceptions...As a junior, he had 50 tackles and three interceptions...Also played wide receiver, catching 30 passes for 670 yards and four TDs as a senior...A triple jumper on the track team and ran a 4.47 at the Metro Index camp.

Personal
Full name is Barry Michael Church...Birthdate: Feb. 11, 1988...Parents are Barry Church, Sr. and Denise Church...Father is a health insurance manager...Has an older sister, Brandi...Communication major.

Career Statistics

Year G/S UT AT TT TFL FF Int/yds BrUp
2006 12/12 40 31 71 6.0/16 1 4/127 6
2007 12/12 47 45 92 6.0/18 1 3/20 4
2008 12/12 57 36 93 5.5/13 3 1/19 6
Totals 36/36 144 112 254 17.5/47 5 8/166 16

I would pass on betting that game...too many variables make it a sucker game either way.

If I had to....I would take the points.....USC by 8

Gators / Hogs will be the game for me this week .. I really like this kid at QB for Arkansas .. My son an UF grad ( PHD ) / me Arkansas... Will see how much Tebow returns to normal form ..

It looks like the Browns might already be looking at Church from Toledo. The position needs upgraded bad. Especially with Pool becoming an UFA and I doubt he get re-signed with his concussion history. I like the guy but its a business and I dont see him coming back. Ive been looking back to find out more about barry Church and found this intersting tidbit...

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090912/SPORTS11/909120437

SCOUTING TALENT: Scouts from seven NFL teams were in attendance at the Glass Bowl last night.

Representatives from the Cleveland Browns, Arizona Cardinals, Baltimore Ravens, San Francisco 49ers, Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers were on hand, likely evaluating Williams and safety Barry Church.

Take USC, give the points.

Other games I like are...

Oklahoma +3 over Texas (Bet the money line if you can, they win the game outright)

Wisconsin -2 1/2 over Iowa

Georgia Tech +3 against VaTech

NFL I like....

Baltimore +3 over Minneosta

Chicago +3 over Atlanta

San Diego -4 over Denver

i have an account with BetUS (if anyone wants an invite, let me know i can get a bonus if you sign up) i started with 200 and got a 200 freeplay, i'm close to 500 bucks now. had a big day with the nfl last sunday. i usually just do small plays, parlays and teasers. every once in a while i will lay a hundred bucks on a game.

i once was a member of sportsbetting.com, they have free contests. i actually won 1700 in a progressive jackpot that they had going for a contest where u answered questions about what would happen over the weekend in various sports. the 1700 had to be rolled a few times, i had it up to 5k. i was betting a dime on games. let me tell you, there is nothing like watching a game where u have a grand rolling on it. hilarious. i bet the steelers on opening night in 2006, and i never rooted harder for the black and gold. they covered that night. it was unreal. i eventually went from 5k to zero on a bunch of 3-5 hundred dollar plays. it was fun while it lasted.

now i just do small plays, 25 bucks on a game here, 30 bucks there.

leaning towards sc now after reading your guys' takes. no big play tho. probably 50 at the most. im looking forward to the game though.

I've been known to bet up around 5k in a weekend.

I have a seperate bank account set up strictly for my "gambling funds" lol.

I have a problem, I know

i do really good on parlays. sportsbetting let you do 9-teamers at a 2.00 minimum. so i would play a bunch of those, i have actually hit 5 or 6 9 team parlays. no teasers. just straight spreads and various money lines.

i dont do those as much now because betus has 5 minimum on all bets.

i actually won money on that game... teased the total and lsu with the points and won.

a lot of people have systems and make quite a bit of money. there are people who play nothing but underdog money lines in baseball and make out like kings.

i just do it for fun. see how good i can get. and i love waking up on sundays, having my coffee and setting up different parlays and teasers that maybe i can cash in on.

speaking of that, did anyone see hammerin hank go 5 for 5 a few weeks ago against the number? wow..

i usually always consider his picks, he's not too bad at handicapping.

then there are instances where you can cash in on something bad.

i had 700 in my account when the tribe blew that 3-1 lead against boston going into game 7, i put every penny in that account on the sox in game 7 because i knew what was inevitable. i was basically telling God he wasn't going to have his cake and eat it too.

i try and stay away from playing my own teams. unless im ridiculously confident either way...

Can't wait for the Pitt Rutgers game tomorrow night. They've had our number the last few years, hopefully we can reverse the trend. Hail to Pitt!

What do you think of the heat on Stull down there by Pitt fans? I read the post-gazette nearly every day - even in the off-season - because I'm a Pirate fan and I know Smizik just loathes the people that boo him every week.

Anybody watching this Cincy vs South Florida game? Two prospects that I wouldnt mind seeing in a Browns uni in QB Pike for Cincy and DE/OLB pass rusher Selvie for South Florida.

For you draft niks this is a must see game a both players are not disappointing me tonight and I would love to see both in a Browns uni.

I also didnt know Ciny had a 3-4 defense. Pike can make all the throws and maybe coming from a college that runs a 3-4 he would be more aware of reading a 3-4 defense. I know he practices against whatever the upcoming opponent is running but he has to have some familiarity with it. I would love Pike to fall to the 3rd round and learn (Ok, I mean watch. DA dont seem like hes ready to help his replacement) behind DA for a year or 2.

hell of a performance last night by cinci. pike only plays 1 series after halftime and they still dominated the field. very impressive.

I have to agree with 'Peen that these guys (them and Boise) may not be at the football talent levels that should/would put them in the Title Game, but there doesn't appear to be any reason they won't go 12-0. Boise has Idaho (lost to Washington),..., Cincinnati has Pitt (lost to NC State).

Gotta wait now for how they fare in the BCS standings,...

The Collaros kid really showed why you have to have a decent backup QB,....

I just don't know that Selvie has the agility to play OLB in a 3-4. I'm not sure yet. A guy on USF that I like, but hasn't gotten much publicity, is Nate Allen. He's a 6'2" 206 safety with 4.5 speed. I have a feeling the scouts were watching him more than Selvie.

Gruden,... I still love the guy and think he's doing a great job in the booth, but he has become quite the schmoozer. He might as well get into politics; can't be any worse than what we've already got,....

My guess is Washington,...Redskins

I'll go back and watch for him. When Cincys backup QB came in the safeties looked cemented footed as the QB ran right by him. USFs safeties didnt do anything to slow Pike down. Ive been watching a few safeties this year that I wasnt even looking for that caught my eye. Like Church from Toledo. I didnt remember seeing him do anything last night and I watched it twice. But I didnt start watching until midway thru the second. I was already dvring Flash Forward.

I think Wisconsin beats Iowa today.

Wisconsin is 11-0 in games that start at 11 o'clock

I'm beyond embarrassed with how bad OSU is right now.

Terrell Pryor makes Jamarcus Russell look like a HOF

You think they might try using Bauserman? I don't think he could be any worse than Pryor...

I've never said this before but I hope someone gives Pryor a concussion. I'm sick and tired of him

I wouldn't go that far. But a benching would be nice right now...

Classy.

I could really care less man. Pryor is a damn joke

What a monumental bust Pryor is. He is getting worse with each snap.