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Terrelle Pryor has regressed every game this year.
Jim Tressel seriously needs to hire an offensive mind after the season. Watching the conservative play calling is an absolute joke.
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What a monumental bust Pryor is. He is getting worse with each snap.
Looked like a high schooler today no doubt. No mental toughness, could not carry the team when necessary.
Better recruit another Jim.
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It isn't just Pryor (although he's been crap 2 weeks running now. The OL has been horrendous for the past 2 weeks. We have no real threat running the football like last year, because Saine and Herron are complimentary backs that aren't going to scare any defensive coordinators anytime soon. Basically, last year Pryor was able to rely on Beanie, and feed off of what a dynamic running back can do to a defense. This year he doesn't have that, and isn't making the plays he was last year. We btrought TP in to be a difference maker from the QB position, and be the player that defenses game plan for that allows others to be successful............he hasn't been able to live up to that yet.
I don't think he's regressed, but hasn't progressed into they type of player that he was recruited to be................remember though he's only a sophomore, and Troy was God aweful his sophomore season (most of his JR. as well).
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I would maybe give tressel another year. If he stinks up the joint again next year, I would fire him without hesitation. He is another Phillip Fulmer in my opinion. He's been riding 1 championship he won, with most of cooper's players. I believe he has hit his peak at osu. Him and Stoops look to be going down the same slippery slope.
He is a passive coach , and when his team doesn't play mistake free football, they usually can't win, since he isn't aggressive enough. Losing to a team that lost 5 in a row is disgusting.
Tressel ball needs to go away.
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are you kidding me? TRESSEL IS NOT AS bad as ppl make him out to be...he is not the problem...look at the players we have last few years...just BS Oline completely. our QB coach use to coach DBs last year...at some lame ass school in NC...i have no clue WHY in the hell he is coaching pryor...they need to make some changes on the O side of the ball...and need to get better o linemen..alsoooooo
i don't want ot make excuses...but msot of the players have been down with flu..
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I'm watching the USC ND game right now and keying on Taylor Mays. Seems like he's not a real smart player. He's been taking bad angles and he just gave up a first down that could easily have been prefented if he had attacked with any sort of sense of urgency. Don't like what I've seen the first half.
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Most of those o-lineman were highly recruited. Shugarts, Brewster were in the top 10 at tackle when they signed. I believe brewster was 2nd best lineman in the country. Adams was highly touted, even though he isn't playing. Boren and Browning were as well. It's my belief the coaches can't develop the talent they have.
Why they're trying to make pryor a thrower is beyond me. let him run the option. he is not a mediocre passer, he is a terrible passer.
I've watched tressel ball long enough. He's a great guy and all, but the way he runs an offense, and his whole philosophy is unrealistic to win championships at this level. Just look how lucky we had to win that championship in 02. you need to play perfect ball for the most part, since tressel plays it so close to the best.
If you go on a buckeyes message board, a lot of fans feel the same way.
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Guys, Pryor is a true sophomore. He's not going to win every game he starts. He made some stupid throws today. - Totally expected at this point in his OSU career.
Purdue put Pryor in a difficult position in the second half and Pryor couldn't handle it. - He'll learn with experience.
As many on here have said about Ohio State: It's not about this year, it's about next year. I firmly believe this. 2010 is our year.
Let's hope we get our composure back and win the Big 10. - Which hopefully gets us another shot at USC.
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Undefeated
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Fire the Coach.
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i agree that they were highly recruited and were supposed to be GREAT...but so was pryor...lol it's not all on tress...his coordinators need to be changed..lot of good ppl have left osu
How can you forget the amazing 06 season that ended ugly? that was our game...we were awesome...the way that national title game turned out was a complete surprise to everyone..hell the players looked like they were shocked.
He will get it goin again...just needs better coordinators who kno their stuff..
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Wow that Paris kid for Notre Dame is tough as hell.
I am officially sold on Clausen I trully believe he has "it"
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I am officially sold on Clausen I trully believe he has "it"
Meh......He had three chances for a TD at the end of the game and all three throws were awful. While he might be better than Quinn, but then again who isn't right now, I wouldn't waste a pick on Clausen right now.
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I'm watching the USC ND game right now and keying on Taylor Mays. Seems like he's not a real smart player. He's been taking bad angles and he just gave up a first down that could easily have been prefented if he had attacked with any sort of sense of urgency. Don't like what I've seen the first half.
He reminds me of a Roy Williams. Not a player I want. Also not a player I think Mangini wants. In time, he could be better then Brodney Pool but if Berry isnt available when the Browns pick, I want a RT. But lets see what they get in FA before we know the teams biggest needs. I just have been paying attention to a lot of safeties because the position needs upgraded with Pool, and I doubt he gets re-signed after this season.
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I want the BPA. I don't care what position he plays. No unit on this team is strong enough for us to be passing on it. The only possible exception for me is wide receiver, but that's just because of Robo and MoMass. But even considering that, I would take a Dez Bryant if I think he is the best player left.
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So do I, but unfortunately, or front office personnel doesnt do it that way. Unless you think that Mankock thought Alex Mack was the BPA and they selected two WRs in the 2nd round having nothing to do with Stallworths suspension.
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I think our front office does it that way just as much, if not more so than anyone else.
They didn't like anyone at 5, but they did like Mack and traded back to get him. It was also a need. Robo was arguably one of the BPA's (hindsighters may disagree, but he was highly ranked by many), and he fit a huge need. MoMass was the same. Veikune wasn't as highly ranked, but I honestly think that the Browns loved him.
I think the fact that we waited that long to address linebacker shows how much we went with BPA. As does the fact that we drafted two receivers and corners consecutively.
Off of that topic though. Here are some random thoughts:
--Locker has more or less solidified himself as my top quarterback. I wouldn't touch
anyone else in the top 10. I don't know that there's a QB other than Locker and Clausen I'd take in the 1st.
-- Trent Williams doesn't have the quickness to play left tackle. I love him on the right side though. Russell Okung is going to be like D'Brick I think. Very good pass rusher, but mediocre in run game. Bryan Bulaga has the best chance to be a complete left tackle IMO, but even he got owned today in his first game back from illness.
-- Brandon Graham of Michigan and Jerry Hughes of TCU are both guys I really like as tweeners in the 2nd at this point. Most consider Graham a 1st rounder at this point, and Hughes could rise up to that level, but anything can happen. Sergio Kindle and Greg Hardy are still my top guys there though.
-- I would love Corey Wootton if we ran a 4-3. He's a big end at 6'7" 283, and a pretty good pass rusher. Just a great overall player. I don't see him in a 3-4 though.
-- Taylor Mays is the most overrated player in the country after Bradford.
-- Someone will get a steal in Jahvid Best. I think he's gonna be like Chris Johnson.
-- Eric Berry is far and away the top safety prospect. He'd also be the best prospect at corner. And linebacker, end, nose, guard, center, tackle, tight end, wide receiver, fullback, running back, quarterback.  He really would be the top corner though.
-- Watch out for Cameron Heyward should he decide to declare. I'm hearing comparisons to Tyson Jackson, but more athletic. Don't sleep on Thadeous Gibson in a 3-4 either. I'm also a big Ross Homan fan, but no chance of him leaving.
-- Tim Tebow is not an NFL quarterback. Nor will he ever be.
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I think the fact that we waited that long to address linebacker shows how much we went with BPA. As does the fact that we drafted two receivers and corners consecutively.
The only thing fact is the draft picks. I think the picks were more need than BPA. I guess you really think its coincidence that those positions were picked consecutive as BPA. I think the opposite. no biggie. If Mankok felt the CB was BPA would they have cut him when he got hurt to see him immediately picked up by another team?
Also, drafting a LB in the 2nd round isnt too long IMO. but thats why we have message boards, to discuss our opinions. Only Mankok knows the facts.
Also, mangini drafts players based on IQ. That might mean BDA in their books but not mine. I think its important but they stress it as too much of an importance. Either way, I hope mankok made the right selections and only time will tell since he said they were in rebuilding mode. I also thought Lerner didnt want Pioli because Pioli wanted to rebuild. I guess the more I pay attention to this team the more confused I see their direction. Like I said, i hope they made the right picks regardless of need or BPA.
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No, I don't think it is coincidence. I also think that any team that ignores need is beyond stupid, as is any team that puts too much of an emphasis on it. That's when busts happen. See Adams, Gaines and Brown, Levi.
Want to clear something up on Carey though. A team hadn't claimed a player who had been waived due to injury in two years. Manko made a calculated risk that didn't pay off. It is what it is.
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I don't have any final stats - just made it home to catch the end of the post-game - but the Toledo announcers were saying Church, while having a "quiet" game by his standards, still made two HUGE plays. Blocked an extra point early I guess and then blocked a FG that would have put NIU ahead very late in the game. Kid makes playes every game.
Toledo 20- NIU 19
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I don't have any final stats - just made it home to catch the end of the post-game - but the Toledo announcers were saying Church, while having a "quiet" game by his standards, still made two HUGE plays. Blocked an extra point early I guess and then blocked a FG that would have put NIU ahead very late in the game. Kid makes playes every game.
Toledo 20- NIU 19
 I missed that game. Ive been DVRing so many games just to check out prospects. You will have to remind me when Toledo plays or what channel the game is on. I really enjoy watching Church play. If you remember to remind me. Alot of prospects ive been checking out.
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Awesome! I bet Toledo and got 7 points!!
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Updated: October 18, 2009, 5:04 PM ET Florida Gators top initial BCS standingsESPN.com news services NEW YORK -- Florida, Alabama and Texas hold the top three spots in the first BCS standings and control their fates in the national championship race. The Gators (6-0) are in first, just ahead of the Crimson Tide (7-0). Texas (6-0) is third. Boise State is fourth, but Broncos still seem to be a long shot to reach the national championship, even if they stay unbeaten. Unbeaten Cincinnati is fifth and Iowa, also undefeated, is sixth. Both are in good position to pass the Broncos if they keep winning. Seventh-place Southern California is the highest-rated team with a loss. Undefeated TCU, vying with Boise State to be reach the big-money bowl games from outside an automatic-qualifying conference, is in eighth place. Florida is coming off back-to-back tough victories, 23-20 over Arkansas this week, and 13-3 over then AP No. 4 LSU the week before. Their first test as the top BCS team comes on Saturday at Mississippi State (7:30 p.m. ET, ESPN). http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4574995http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings
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i hope you dont rep yourself as a buckeyes fan  you have a long hill to climb after that statement 
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i hope you dont rep yourself as a buckeyes fan you have a long hill to climb after that statement
I second that, that was BS
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Boise St may very well play for the National Championship. I could easily see two of the top three teams losing once the rest of the year. And Cincy and Iowa, those two can easily lose one too.
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And therein is the entire question,....if 2 of those top 3 lose once, will they, or not, drop below Boise/Cincy/Iowa,.....Texas might, but Florida and Alabama ? First, it would depend on who, and when.
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Yup, it always depends on who they lose to and when. But to me, if Texas, Bama, Cincy and Iowa lose you have to put BSU in there.
...and yes, I think there's a high probability that those teams will lose at least one. It happens too often.
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I don't have a problem with that,...or even if it were to happen to Florida or Alabama,...the question is WOULD it, and I'm thinking not,...
The scenario I am looking for is, (IF) after USC, Texas, and now Iowa, lose, the outrage when the BCS says Florida and Alabama are still #1-2 after their SEC Title Game,....with an undefeated Cincy or Boise on the table (or anyone else still remaining so untarnished,...TCU et al).
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Here's the interesting dilema these voters have.....
Cinci is a BCS conference team. If you keep them out of the national title game in favor of a one loss team, in the event they go undefeated, what is the point of college football being set up the way it is?
The reason I mention that is Boise is currently higher than them in the standings. Unless Cinci leapfrogs them, any one loss team most likely has to drop below both, thus setting up the possibility of two mid majors playing for the national title.
It could be the perfect storm to completely destroy the BCS. You either keep out a one loss team that might be the best in the country (which will make all the SEC folks cry), overlook another mid major (Utah last year) and possibly see them finish undefeated again or skip over an undefeated BCS school. Think any of these outcomes have a serious backlash for this already unpopular system.
For people who pray for a playoff, it would be an amazing outcome to have Boise and Cinci both finish unbeaten.
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Oh wow like I'm really going to cry over what you guys say. Pryor sucks and I don't have to prove anything to you guys so block me and don't read my posts.
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Here's the interesting dilema these voters have.....
Cinci is a BCS conference team. If you keep them out of the national title game in favor of a one loss team, in the event they go undefeated, what is the point of college football being set up the way it is?
The reason I mention that is Boise is currently higher than them in the standings. Unless Cinci leapfrogs them, any one loss team most likely has to drop below both, thus setting up the possibility of two mid majors playing for the national title.
It could be the perfect storm to completely destroy the BCS. You either keep out a one loss team that might be the best in the country (which will make all the SEC folks cry), overlook another mid major (Utah last year) and possibly see them finish undefeated again or skip over an undefeated BCS school. Think any of these outcomes have a serious backlash for this already unpopular system.
For people who pray for a playoff, it would be an amazing outcome to have Boise and Cinci both finish unbeaten.
That's the whole point,...there is no setup.
Unless Florida and Alabama both step on it before their big showdown, I don't think there's any way Cincy and Boise play each other for the title, let alone either one of them even if Texas, USC and Iowa all lose. Now whether I think they deserve to if they are indeed the only 2 remaining 12-0 teams in the country is another story. People will complain to high heaven, but it would be a decent matchup. Any other time there are only 2 undefeateds left, they get to play for the title. Why not here ?
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And the other thing "they're" saying is, Cincy will/should jump Boise, as they do have some scheduling challenges ahead (i.e. Pitt) whereas Boise has absolutely no one left.
Cincy should have jumped them last week after their struggle with Tulsa,.....
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