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How can anyone possibly take you seriously about anything after you put up something like this?
Cribbs > than AP? Really? Put down the stuff your smoking. (Or give it to Tyler)
He already smoked it, twice, or better.
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Ok I think I figured it out!! You're talking about this Adrian Peterson. http://www.nfl.com/players/adrianpeterson/profile?id=PET263012RB for the Bears. Yes. Now I agree with you. Cribbs could be better than him. As a matter of fact he's out rushing him already this year.
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look folks
im not saying Cribbs is "better" than AP...atleast not right now
BUT Cribbs has the talent "To be better" I really believe this if he has gotten the chance
As for Faulk
do you realize Faulk had 1,000 yards rushing AND 1,000 yards receving in back to back seasons?
on a team with Tory holt and Bruce(Holt being a top 5 receiver of the 90's)...thats a tall order....watching faulk break tackles, and weave and wow reminds me very much of what Cribbs was doing sunday.
Peterson is a runner not a ball carrier...you watch against the Steelers, he will struggle because he doesn't follow his blocks as well as Cribbs does, and he don't have Cribbs vision, and he don't break very many tackles
Cribbs is NOT better than Peterson right now, but Cribbs has never had the chance.....Cribbs looks like a bigger version of Eric Metcalf that can break tackles...this kid could be a diamond...considering how elusive he is
sure Cribbs would have to practice running between the tackles
however, his natural talent as a ball carrier is there...if you like it or not
as for stating how special Teams return is easy...are you kidding me!?
you have 11 guys running full speed at you, you have to catch a ball, and "hope" you have some blocking
Cribbs makes our Special teams unit look good, look how many tackles the guy breaks on most of his returns
Im just saying the kid is a talent......how would you feel to have the next Eric Metcalf with the moves, a bit bigger and the ability to break tackles?
he "could" be a feature back....perhaps one of the best
but he has never had the chance...he has the size, and I really don't think he would struggle running between the tackles...the kid is a natural ball carrier...he just has that "feel" to know where the crease is...you can't teach that...he just has it...
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I guess you never really know until you try. Personally. At this point. Trying Cribbs out as a RB wouldn't even bother me. He's not a very good WR. So lets see what else he could do.
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personaly, I think your vision on a punt return with the whole field ahead of you and a bit of steam behind you is waaaay different than that of in the backfield. Again, JMO..
I think he'd get broke real quick.
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Thats very true oldmutt
I just think Cribbs "could" run between the tackles...there isn't much size difference between him and peterson, and Cribbs has very powerful legs and is a bit more elusive
I think Peterson is faster running in a striahgt line compared to cribbs, however, I think Cribbs has better vision and follows his blocks better and he can go from 0-60 in two steps
I have just felt he has always projected well as a running back....his skill set seems to favor being a ball carrier, which is what he is best at.
Cribbs could be used much like Metcalf...a few runs up the middle here and there, but just like Marshal Faulk...the goal is to get him to the outside, and to run alot of draws and counter plays where Cribbs's superior vision and moves can be leveraged to make some big plays..
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I'm guessing Josh would need...oh...about 2 seconds to yes he'd like to try it!
Guy is a gamer and mentally fits right into the mold of player we Browns fans have always loved!
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sure i may get carried away here and there with Cribbs
But in Cribbs i see a guy that could be a very very good ball carrier in this league or atleast play a huge role
if you can get Cribbs to the edge, the worlds the limit with him
if he could atleast be "serviceable" between the tackles, you can expect atleast 2-3 25-30+ yard runs on the outside per game out of 10-12 attempts....that would be nice
of course Cribbs would probably struggle at the goal line...there is where Jamal comes in...
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I'm telling you guys:
Franchise, every-down back: No!
3rd down, game-changing back: Yes!
Give the guy some screens, draws, pitches, and swing passes. He will electrify. Occasionally a run between the tackles, to keep the D honest. Keeps him fresher. Get a back like Beanie Wells or Lendale White to pound between the tackles on 1st and 2nd down. That would be a backfield I could live with. Franchise RBs are very rare and almost a thing of the past.
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Metcalf was one of the 3 best ball carriers of the modern era...the guy was on the NFL 75th Anniversary team for petes sake
This is the dumbest post I've ever wasted my time with but....
Can you please provide a link? Would love to see Metcalf's name on the NFL 75th Anniversary team.
There are other absurdities but I thought I'd stick to one this time.
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I am sorry that was a mistake on my part about the 75th Anniversary team. I made a mistake on that part of the argument, and i am sorry
I do know Metcalf had a total of 17,230 all-purpose yards, ranking him among the NFL's top 10 in that category at the time of his retirement.
He is the only player ever to have 7,000+ yards on offense and 7,000+ yards on kickoff/punt returns
I am being totally serious, i got that confused with his record for punt returns for TD's
I think he is worthy to be on that team though, he was a heck of a ball player.
i am sorry for any confusion i may have caused with that statement, and I thank the other fellow posters here for correcting my obvious error.
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For starters, AP is much faster, much more elusive, harder to bring down, and has better vision.
Just because their listed height and weight match up doesn't mean a whole lot. Come to think of it, I'm not far off from those numbers either.
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 No big deal, for some reason I was certain he would have been on there for Special Teams!
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Here's something else to consider. He probably could convert to a RB and play decently well. But does that really help the team? He is such a big contributor on special teams and could be a huge contributor as a wildcat/receiver/whatever in the future. It seems like a waste to take a guy that's already 26 and a big contributor and to switch his positions, unless you think he can really be an elite back, but I really, REALLY doubt that.
RB is a devalued position anyway, get a couple in free agency or the draft, let Cribbs be a special teams and wildcat extraordinaire, and be done with it.
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I didn't say Peterson was slower than Cribbs...i actually stated Peterson was faster
as for the vision argument, I dunno...Cribbs weave and wos and follows his blockers very nicely and just knows when to kick up the speed
most of Peterson's long runs come when he gets past the front 7 untouched and just has pure speed...Peterson doesn't really break alot of tackles...its not his game, Peterson is the best in the NFL at what he does...pure speed past the front 7....
in the first half when we played them, we made contact with him the entire first half at the front 7, and he only had 25 yards..it was when our D got gassed and Peterson was able to get past the front 7...that is when his speed killed us
Speed kills, it is what it is
I just think Cribbs could be something special
guys like Emmit Smith, and others were not fast guys, they were just ball carriers...granted Emmit smith had the best OL in a decade blocking for him though
I just think Cribbs could be an electrifying RB...of course he would struggle on the goal line, but the kid is fantastic on the edge lala the outside.....
I just feel he would be a better RB than a receiver...
im just not sold on Peterson....Tomlinson was a better ball carrier 4 years ago then Peterson is now...
Peterson is a great back, i'll give him that
I am just saying Cribbs has the talent to be a good ball carrier, he just has never had the chance to do it...it could or could not work out, but I feel the kid is a natural ball carrier and would probably suprise many people the way the kid goes balls to the wall to carry the rock, the way he follows his blocks and shows patience to let them develop
He has that burst, he is quick...he is deceptivly quick...thats his advantage, and he is elusive
I mean face it, he isn't a WR, he does better when the rock is in his hand
why not atleast try it?
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He's not a feature back, for the reason you just outlined, for his upright running style... and the guy is 26! You can't expect to plug in a guy at RB when he's never played it before, and expect him to be a feature back.
Although with JC, anything is possible.
Side note: I expect the Browns to do the right thing and give him a raise ASAP.
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I agree on the raise for JC and remember when Kellen Winslow was asked about Cribbs, Winslow Stated: "That guy is a SuperHero" 
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personaly, I think your vision on a punt return with the whole field ahead of you and a bit of steam behind you is waaaay different than that of in the backfield. Again, JMO..
I think he'd get broke real quick.
He uses that same vision when he runs from the wildcat. He follows the blockers well, and hits the hole fast. Just sayin.
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Cribbs does follow his blockers nicely but that's in the context of being part of a good special teams unit. That doesn't necessarily translate to being a feature back running against defenses designed to stop you.
I agree speed kills but what makes AP so special is that he combines incredible speed, quickness, and acceleration with power and the ability to break tackles and push the pile. I don't know what Vikings games you've been watching but I see him break a LOT of tackles and he always falls forward. My biggest knock on him is that he has to work on the fumbling issue. Also, I'm going to throw it out there even though he's off to a slow start this year-- I wish DeAngelo Williams got more love. That guy is also a BEAST.
Re: Tomlinson, I don't think he was ever the pure runner that AP is now. He was more of a complete back, but the Vikings have a very good 3rd down back in Chester Taylor.
Why not at least try making Cribbs a feature running back? Because he's 26 years old (most RBs are done by 30), and already has huge value as a special teams and wildcat guy. Having him switch positions so he can be an average running back (at best) for a few years while he loses a ton of value at other positions isn't worth it, IMO.
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He's not a feature back, for the reason you just outlined, for his upright running style... and the guy is 26! You can't expect to plug in a guy at RB when he's never played it before, and expect him to be a feature back.
Although with JC, anything is possible.
Side note: I expect the Browns to do the right thing and give him a raise ASAP.
In isolation, the Browns shouldn't do anything. He's signed through 2012 at very low salaries, and who knows what will happen with the new CBA. The Browns have so much leverage it's ridiculous.
I think it would be smart for them to throw Cribbs a bone though as an act of good faith. At a minimum, it would go over really well in the locker room and provide good motivation to some guys.. i.e. work hard, play well, and you earn a new contract. It would have to be something that worked for both sides, maybe tack a couple reasonable years on at the end of the deal and give him some up front money and bump the salaries up a bit.
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Cribbs does follow his blockers nicely but that's in the context of being part of a good special teams unit. That doesn't necessarily translate to being a feature back running against defenses designed to stop you.
I agree speed kills but what makes AP so special is that he combines incredible speed, quickness, and acceleration with power and the ability to break tackles and push the pile. I don't know what Vikings games you've been watching but I see him break a LOT of tackles and he always falls forward. My biggest knock on him is that he has to work on the fumbling issue. Also, I'm going to throw it out there even though he's off to a slow start this year-- I wish DeAngelo Williams got more love. That guy is also a BEAST.
Re: Tomlinson, I don't think he was ever the pure runner that AP is now. He was more of a complete back, but the Vikings have a very good 3rd down back in Chester Taylor.
Why not at least try making Cribbs a feature running back? Because he's 26 years old (most RBs are done by 30), and already has huge value as a special teams and wildcat guy. Having him switch positions so he can be an average running back (at best) for a few years while he loses a ton of value at other positions isn't worth it, IMO.
I just think it would be interesting to see, to say the least. Cribbs is our biggest weapon right now.
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I don't buy into the age arguement. it's the mileage.
I like Cribbs. I would like to see him get some more work in the wildcat and as a 3rd down back. But it is way premature to say that he would be an effective everydown back. As a running QB, his natural tendancy will be to run upright.
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I don't buy into the age arguement. it's the mileage.
I like Cribbs. I would like to see him get some more work in the wildcat and as a 3rd down back. But it is way premature to say that he would be an effective everydown back. As a running QB, his natural tendancy will be to run upright.
Running upright has nothing to do with anything. He runs well out of the wildcat. He's pretty much a RB looking for a hole at that point. I'm just saying that at this point, what would it really hurt if Cribbs lined up in the back field for a few plays. I'm in favor of getting him the ball as much as possible, and it doesn't matter if it's WR, QB/RB in the wildcat, RB, whatever.
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I don't think I could yell "Hell no!" fast enough. He's the same height and weight as Adrian Peterson so he of course would be that equally awesome based on that alone!  I imagined you posting that and pitching the idea like you were Eric Cartman.
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Cribbs does follow his blockers nicely but that's in the context of being part of a good special teams unit. That doesn't necessarily translate to being a feature back running against defenses designed to stop you.
Josh is not a natural RB..and doesn't show it when he runs from the wildcat..too upright..not seeing him being able to shift ,take hits..multiple hits down after down..I don't see it myself.
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Titans running back LenDale White is trying to say all the right things, even as his team bumbles through an eight-games-and-counting losing streak.
So why is LenDale being so positive? Because he's due to become a free agent after the season.
His plans for a possible payday include, we're told, hiring agent Drew Rosenhaus.
White signed a four-year deal as a rookie in 2006. Absent a new Collective Bargaining Agreement, 2010 will proceed without a salary cap -- and White and every other free agent with fewer than six years of service will not be unrestricted free agents.
White's production has dropped since the arrival of Chris Johnson. After rushing for more than 1,000 in his second season, White was limited to 773 yards in 2008. He scored 15 touchdowns, however, as the goal-line and short-yardage back.
This year, White has only 148 yards through six games, and one touchdown for the 0-6 Titans.
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Josh is not a natural RB..and doesn't show it when he runs from the wildcat..too upright..not seeing him being able to shift ,take hits..multiple hits down after down..I don't see it myself.
I think this statement is rubbish. Cribbs was a running QB in college. He took hits constantly at that level with a much smaller body. To say he's not a natural RB is stupid IMO. He has all the instincts a good RB posesses. His vision is excellent, he's explosive, and he has power. He follows blocks better than most and knows when to cut and when not to. I don't believe that hits on returns ar not as bad as hits in the running game. When I was younger I did both, and believe me the hits on returns were ten times worse.
Saying he doesn't have the tools to be a back is assinine, when he proves it everytime he's in the wildcat. Or are you "experts" going to claim that the hits and running from the wildcat are different than takeing a ball on a handoff 5 yards deep in the backfield? He is tough as they come. I think those poo pooing the idea are just afraid he won't be as effective as a returner.
I wouldn't call him an everydown back, which is the term being thrown around to dispell he talent, but he is very much a third down back. Oh yeah, he can throw too.
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If you put Cribbs in at HB you would see a ridiculous amount of fumbles and he would be injured within two-weeks. Book it.
Dude is a KR/PR, gadget guy, who may or may not work his way into a 4th or 5th WR on the depth chart.
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J/C I wouldn't want to see Cribbs as a fulltime RB because RBs get too banged up and he is too valuable everywhere else on the field. and I don't think he would be that good there either, but that is certainly debatable. as for Adrian Peterson....surprised noone just responded with this link yet: http://www.youtube.com/v/lrhBXbVmrWc&...=PL&index=9
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I think that Harrison should remain our number 1 with Jennings as spell back.
Keep Lewis for short yardage, inside the twenty, goal-line situations.
IMO, JH looked pretty decent during the first half of the pitt game. We went with Lewis during the second-half and he didn't look to good. He was good fro grinding out three yards on the ground---but he didn't look like much of a threat to go 10-20 yards.
In other words, Jamal isn't much of a threat on the ground.
Use him like Bettis or Lendale White---though part of me wonders if he could even do that.
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If you put Cribbs in at HB you would see a ridiculous amount of fumbles and he would be injured within two-weeks. Book it.
Dude is a KR/PR, gadget guy, who may or may not work his way into a 4th or 5th WR on the depth chart.
That is the most ridiculous statement. For one, Cribbs doesn't fumble much at all. He takes hits on wildcat plays, punt, and kickoff returns. What makes you think he will turn into a fumbler and get hurt in 2 weeks? Where do you come up with this stuff?
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I think that Harrison should remain our number 1 with Jennings as spell back.
Keep Lewis for short yardage, inside the twenty, goal-line situations.
IMO, JH looked pretty decent during the first half of the pitt game. We went with Lewis during the second-half and he didn't look to good. He was good fro grinding out three yards on the ground---but he didn't look like much of a threat to go 10-20 yards.
In other words, Jamal isn't much of a threat on the ground.
Use him like Bettis or Lendale White---though part of me wonders if he could even do that.
I pretty much agree with you on this. Harrison is much quicker at the LOS. Plus has the ability to break off a big run. Lewis is pretty much done as an every down back. We should go with Harrison as the feature, and Lewis to grin it out.
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I think this statement is rubbish. Cribbs was a running QB in college. He took hits constantly at that level with a much smaller body. To say he's not a natural RB is stupid IMO. Everything you say is stupid.. a running QB in college is totally different than a natural RB. Saying he doesn't have the tools to be a back is assinine, when he proves it everytime he's in the wildcat. This is why this board is so cluttered..just totally unreasonable thinking..so because he's athletically gifted enough to run a few times out of the WC, that now makes him a natural RB.. 
To line him up in the backfield and run him 15-18 times a game is what a natural RB does....oh that would be good to see game to game..I made my statement..I stand by it.
This isn't even a debate..why don't we make Vince Young/Vick(-throw any running QB in there)into natural running backs..
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At this point what would it hurt to see if the dude can be a decent RB? It isn't any different than trying to make him a WR or safety. I'm in favor of trying anything that can get this offense moving.
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U want to get him hurt?
[Play little games like that and Josh will be following DQ' to IR.
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[Play little games like that and Josh will be following DQ' to IR.
No, I don't want him to get hurt. Trying him out at RB, say about 10 carries, is not going to get him hurt any more than running him in the wildcat, PR/KR, and/or at WR. If he's going to get hurt it will happen at any time. He's practically a RB when he lines up in the wildcat anyway. I don't see a whole lot of difference in taking a snap from the shotgun vs taking a handoff 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
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Been saying this for two years....I'm not sure about Franchise RB but I think he could become ONE HECK OF A RB!! Way better than the 4 years he's been working on becoming an NFL WR.
Just cause Toad didn't come up with it and its not an OBVIOUS and takes some thinking and some imagination...don't make it so...He runs too upright
So there - its over. Of course AP who has been a RB for how many years of his career...  Ummmm ALLL runs Upright. And others I won't go through the list.
Fact is Cribbs has not been Coached UP as a RB...maybe NEVER! To get a little LEAN in his running is not that hard to do!
Fact is he has displayed exceptional RB skills already in the few carries that he has made. And quite frankly I'd Love to see what he can do with a Running Back Screen with JoeT, ES and Mack out there for him!!!
I'd love to see him as a Check down option with all coverage gone deep and Cribbs had picked up the blitzing safety and now slid into the flat.
I'd love to see him run several successful pitches and when teams make their half time adjustments come out with the Half Back Option pass...hey even in the RED ZONE and I'm not talking about throwing a dumb 7 yard Down and out. I'm talking IN THE ENDZONE for a clear TD or OUT harmlessly and onto the next play!
I've seen his best possibility to Enhance this team and give it the quality of TEAMS HAVING TO COME UP WITH A GAME PLAN TO STOP our RB. Sorry what we got now is too one dimensional and easy for teams to stop our Running game.
Cribbs can stretch that D out Horizontally and also be able to cut it up in between the Tackles. He always falls forward. And is much tougher in between the tackles than anything I've seen from Jerome Harrison (who gives up too many 4 yard slivers and tries to bounce it outside and a 3 yard loss is garnished instead!)
Sorry but Cribbs will never be a Good WR. He will never be a Good QB. So teams will eventually kick Pop UPs to the upmen and we get a consistent start on the 30....Woopidy Do. How long will teams Kick to Cribbs if he is this good (thank you to Sealey and the blocking packages he has put in for the returns!!) - Then what you got nothing from Cribbs and we are going to have to give him REAL money to keep him here!
The only answer and the results can be TREMENDOUS in return...Yes, Possibly the end RESULT will be a STUD RB!!! Too late? I don't know, lets start now and get 3-4 Great years out of him!
JMHO
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I agree completely Eo, the kid has the makings of a great 3rd down back. Spread the defense out, and give him some draws, screens, swing passes and pitches. Teams will have to game-plan for him (who else do we have that can do this?).
Cribbs is our most dynamic player with the ball in his hands, and other teams know this. They are going to stop kicking to him, so this will leave him even fresher. Why not expand his role in the offense?
I love Cribbs, but even I can see that he's not going to make it as a WR. They need a more effective way to get the ball in his hands, and I think RB is the way to go.
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Just cause Toad didn't come up with it and its not an OBVIOUS and takes some thinking and some imagination...don't make it so...He runs too upright
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The knock on Cribbs as a running back is that his upright running style might doom him in the NFL.
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So there - its over. Of course AP who has been a RB for how many years of his career... Ummmm ALLL runs Upright. And others I won't go through the list.
I bet he'd make a great QB! All the QB's who've come out of schools like Kent State and have gone on to have great careers........I won't go through the list. 
Upright running isn't a problem if the player knows how to avoid a hit OR knows how to deliver a hit, which Peterson does and Cribbs doesn't.
Comparing Peterson to Cribbs...........They both deserve better than that.
Of course the question wasn't whether or not he could make plays out of the backfield. The STATEMENT...........in fact the very TITLE of the thread reads:
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Our Franchise running back is on our team
Cribbs can do some things as a gadget guy for us. That doesn't make him a feature back.
You're not spinning well today at ALL, Eo. 
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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