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There are three options for quarterback play next year.

(in no particular order)
#1. Start a quarterback already on the roster (Quinn, Anderson, Ratliff)
#2. Draft a quarterback
#3. Sign or trade for a quarterback already on an NFL team.

To start the thread, I would like to focus primarily on option #3, as options 1 and 2 have been discussed on this board ad nausem.

The pros of option 3 (signing a FA quarterback or trading for one) would be that the new GM would potentially not have to use a #1 pick on a quarterback.

I realize there was a thread a while back concerning Jason Campbell, however I to broaden the scope and include other high profile names while also including some names not thought about.

Here is a list of some of the quarterbacks that will be available due to free agency.

Troy Smith (25) – Restricted FA
Matt Moore (25) – Restricted FA
Kellen Clemens (26)
Kyle Orton (26)
Tarvaris Jackson (26)
Jason Campbell (27)
Kyle Boller (28)
Rex Grossman, (29)
Michael Vick (29)
David Carr, (30)
Joey Harrington (30)
Daunte Culpepper (32)
Chad Pennington (33)
Charlie Batch (34)
Jon Kitna (37)

Of these quarterbacks listed, most would not be considered to helm the quarterback position, however there are a couple that might hit free agency if there team does not ante up with an extension that could be looked at as an NFL starter for 2010/2011.

The other option would be trading for a back-up quarterback. Here is a list of some interesting names. Some of these names if brought in would be expected to be the franchise quarterback whereas others would be a stop-gap.

May it be noted that any of the names above or below are not backed by me. I am simply throwing out some information where others can take the information and run with it.

Matt Leinart (26) back-up quarterack Cardinals
John Beck (28) third string quarterback Ravens
Chris Simms (29) back-up quarterback Broncos
Matt Flynn (24) back-up quarterback Packers
Brodie Croyle (26) back-up quarterback Chiefs
Kevin Kolb(25) back-up quarterback Eagles
Billy Volek (33) back-up quarterback Chargers
Shaun HIll (29) back-up quarterback 49ers
Seneca Wallace (29) back-up quarterback Seahawks
Josh Johnson (23) back-up quarterback Bucs
Patrick Ramsey (30) third-string quarterback Titans

Discuss.

just for the sake of having a complete list....


Vince Young is due $14mil for next year if he is not cut by the Titans....he most likely restructures (ala Alex Smith), but he should be on the list in the event they cannot come to an agreement.

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Quarterback Free Agents (Updated)

Troy Smith (25) – Restricted FA
Matt Moore (25) – Restricted FA
Kellen Clemens (26)
Kyle Orton (26)
Tarvaris Jackson (26)
Vince Young (26)
Jason Campbell (27)
Kyle Boller (28)
Rex Grossman, (29)
Michael Vick (29)
David Carr, (30)
Joey Harrington (30)
Daunte Culpepper (32)
Chad Pennington (33)
Charlie Batch (34)
Jon Kitna (37)

Back-up notable quarterbacks

Matt Leinart (26) back-up quarterack Cardinals
John Beck (28) third string quarterback Ravens
Chris Simms (29) back-up quarterback Broncos
Matt Flynn (24) back-up quarterback Packers
Brodie Croyle (26) back-up quarterback Chiefs
Kevin Kolb(25) back-up quarterback Eagles
Billy Volek (33) back-up quarterback Chargers
Shaun HIll (29) back-up quarterback 49ers
Seneca Wallace (29) back-up quarterback Seahawks
Josh Johnson (23) back-up quarterback Bucs
Patrick Ramsey (30) third-string quarterback Titans

Michael Vick??

I don't like a single QB on that list to be honest, I'd rather go with Option 1.

The claims that Quinn can't throw the ball down field is just ridiculous, what NFL Quarterback can't throw the ball 40-50 Yards down field?

Id like Kolb but I dont see the Eagles giving him up. They used a first on him and will probabley want a 1st and more picks to get him. Maybe if the Browns trade down and get more picks.

There is alot of players I want the Browns to get in the 1st 3 rounds and as of right now, none are QBs. I really like Pike but Pike has an injury history and might slide a few rounds and not many on this board like him.

Tebow


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Yeah, I never quite understood that argument as well. He can get it downfield. He has just chosen not to up until now.

If he gets in, I'm sure he will try to see downfield more.

More than anything, I'd just like to see, definitely, whether or not BQ has a shot at being an NFL QB. Say what you want, but we just haven't seen enough of the guy. Now that there is literally no chance of a winning season or him hitting his escalators, we NEED to see the kid in extended action.

If nothing more than to be able to cross him off the list.

Not a single intriguing name on either of those lists.

Tarvaris Jackson jumps out to me. Pretty sure he hates Minnesota for signing Favre to be a replacement to him. Not sure he'll resign there. Wouldn't mind getting him, won't put up huge numbers but is surely an upgrade to what we have now.

Of the guys mentioned I like Jason Campbell the best.

If given proper coaching and receivers I think he could thrive.

Quote:

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He completes passes and has a rating above 80. That's 735% better than anyone we got now.

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And the price will probably be right. We're in no shape to be wasting a first round pick on any of this year's crop of qb's.

j/.c

Looks like with that list we really need to pray something clicks in Quinns head. The only one that looks remotely intreging is Jackson and that isn't saying much.

I have not done the research yet to back this up, but it seems that a front office that cannot get productive play from the quarterback position in their first or second try is a front office that does not see success and does not get an extension after their 4-5 year contract is up.

There is not going to be a Brady, Brees or Manning on this list. However, I do think that there are some names on here that a GM could be successful in the short term and maybe a couple young guys that could be successful NFL starter in the long term.

For example, it is not a sexy signing, but Kitna is someone I would look to for a 1-2 year stop gap.

Kolb is someone I would highly consider, but legalize is right, it would take a lot to pry him away from the Eagles.

No one on here thinks Leinart, Flynn, or Croyle could be successful? I am not talking about franchise elite qb, I am talking about somewhere between what we have now w/Quinn/Anderson and a franchise qb. At this point in the rebuilding process I would take the middle.

Holmgren is hired as gm, Gruden or Mornhinweg as HC

Donovan McNabb is traded to Cleveland to make room for Kevin Kolb.

It took 10 years, but my orignial Browns QB is playing in Cleveland.

If I could only get Warren for LT back.

Of the ones listed.

Campbell is better than anything we have right now.
Kolb looked very good when McNabb was out.
I liked Carr coming out, but I think all those sacks may have been partially on him.

I don't think there is anyway you get Leinart out of Arizona, but I would grab him if I could.

I would not give up on Quinn, I don't think that it is assured that he is all that bad. We know for sure he is better than Anderson.

bizarre man love

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Man, WEAK free agents. Weak.

I am all for signing a QB rather than drafting one, but those options are pretty poor.

The Redskins have prolly burned bridges with Jason Campbell irrevocably.
JC is gangly, but under-rated and IMO a victim of instability.

If we could get JC we might be better off cutting ties w/ DA.

I'm still not sold on the idea that BQ is a bust. I need more information on that,but I'm pretty certain about DA at this point. As for BQ vs. JC???

We may be able to work out a deal w/ the Redskins at draft day, OR EVEN BEFORE, if we have a higher draft position.

What the hell do I know anyway ???

A. Kevin Kolb
B. Jason Campbell
C. Tavares Jackson

I would take any of these three before I would draft a QB this year, no one jumps off the charts for me to draft in the top 5.

Kolb is not a free agent, a trade would need to be made.
here is a link to free agents for next year
http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html

and another

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2010

Picking off this list is like picking your next EX-Wife,

Jason Campbell.....Strong arm, not accurate, hummmmm..In the words of Uncle Ted Nugent......were have we seen this before......where have we seen this before...DA.....So were gonna cut DA sign JC and complane about the same thigns....Common Man....

Eagles have a delema comming up, keep Mcnabb, resign vick, & if they do that who who starts who sits.

Kolb, in Philly's offense he's ok, in our offense surrounded bye our talent he's ground chuck. Cant stick a below average QB in a weak system and expect average results, normally both areas fail.

I would take Mcnare or Vick in a heart beat atleast we know who would be our starter and in both cases, both can still run for thier lives, when needed.

Keep Quinn & Ratliff and build up the team around them. We could get some good free agents and knock every draft selection out of the park and STILL not compete for the division. This team is that bad.

By the time the team is competetive, THEN look for that special vet QB via trade or free agency. Or draft the right one down the road.

None of the QBs should be drafted in the first round this year. They'd end up needing to sit and learn almost as long as Quinn has. I'll be mad if we draft a QB. It makes me sick enough thinking that we need to address the wide receiver position again so soon, but that's a different thread . . .

we could go the route of cincinnati a few yrs ago...

draft a qb in the first round and sign kitna.

i think kitna is much better than anything we have right now.

Except there is nobody in Carson Palmer's league to be drafted in the 2010 draft.

j/c

I imagine Sage Rosenfels is not happy that the Viks signed Favre...I did not see him on the list of backups to consider.

I would put him up there with the "top" of the FA and backup groups...not saying much though.

The Vikes will keep both Sage & Tarvaris (BTW in my opinion Tarvaris is not good), at least until whatever off-season drama Favre has in store plays out.

.. " Picking off this list is like picking your next EX-Wife.. "

Boy , ain't that the truth

Kolb was drafted in the second round and has done virtually nothing in the NFL. No way the Eagles command a 1st round+ for him.