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If anyone taped the game or if anyone knows where I could see the game I'd like to watch it.

I had obligations this afternoon. But everyone is going off on Suh's performance and I'd like to see it.


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Just in case you didn't see the stat line:

Suh

10 Tackles
7 TFL
4.5 Sacks


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Probably the best performance you'll ever see out of a d-lineman.

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Wholy caroly! 7 tackles for loss!!!

For a Tackle?

That's absurd. Has that ever happened?


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Wholy caroly! 7 tackles for loss!!!

Has that ever happened???




IDK, but I do know that McCoy has never been sacked 4 times in a game and Suh did it by himself.

Honestly, if you missed the Suh performance, you need to find a way to see it. It was the most dominating performance I myself have ever seen.

Suh, to me, is Warren Sapp part deux.


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Oh please god if he comes here can we please switch to a one gap defense?

Can you imagine the waste this guy would be in our two gap?


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Oh please god if he comes here can we please switch to a one gap defense?

Can you imagine the waste this guy would be in our two gap?




And besides, you just don't pass on a guy named Ndamukong !

Kong....The mighty Kong is on the Browns D line!!! You can have a blast with that! And you can tell Rogers, "Hey, stick around, we're drafting this guy and you'll both be out there together"! (in whatever D they choose to run)

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Suh would be a nice pick up.. I must admit.. He would be BPA.

Eric Berry would be a pick based on need.

Which one do I choose? Which one do I choose?


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Watching Suh tonight, I saw a defensive lineman almost almost single handedly beat a top 3 team.

Slight exaggeration I know, but he is amazing.





He was and unless we pick #1 overall we have not shot at him.





glad to see Suh converted you over to the dark side......


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glad to see Suh converted you over to the dark side......




He did..until I watch how anemic our offense is and realize we really need a QB


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Then you see the QB's in this draft and want Suh again.

EDIT: Suh's 12 tackles, 4.5 sacks, and 7 TFL's last night gives him 82 tackles, 12 sacks, and 20.5 TFL's on the season. Give the man the Heisman.

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He did..until I watch how anemic our offense is and realize we really need a QB




I hope until you watched the QBs coming out and realized that they just aren't good enough to pick that high

I think Clausen is the best QB coming out.....but he is far from a sure-thing. And like a band geek on prom night, we need a surething right now


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Suh would be a nice pick up.. I must admit.. He would be BPA.

Eric Berry would be a pick based on need.

Which one do I choose? Which one do I choose?




If this is what our choice comes down to, I'll be happy, but I prefer Suh. However, we'll probably move to the 50th pick and draft a punter that understands the process.


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Then you see the QB's in this draft and want Suh again.

EDIT: Suh's 12 tackles, 4.5 sacks, and 7 TFL's last night gives him 82 tackles, 12 sacks, and 20.5 TFL's on the season. Give the man the Heisman.





Wow. I read you guys yapping about him but just go *yawn, whatever*
Now, I want the #1 overall pick so we can be sure of getting him. I want this guy. What is his character like?


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The only character thing I found about Suh is that once while driving he swerved to avoid hitting a dog and paid a $50 fine.

If that's what we have to worry about, then I don't think we'll be too worried.


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Here's a good article about him.

LINCOLN, Neb. – Around here, Ndamukong Suh rolls off people's tongues.

How could you not know how to pronounce the name of the defensive tackle who many predict will be remembered as one of Nebraska's all-time greats?

En-DOM-ah-ken SUE. No harder than dropping the names of Tommie Frazier or Grant Wistrom.

No mistaking the 6-4, 300-pound senior, either. His tree-trunk thighs fill out most every stitch of his Big Red-issued sweat pants, and he makes most of the sportswriters stretching to place tape recorders near his mouth look like munchkins.

It may be a little hard to believe when his counterpart on the defensive line, Jared Crick, describes him as a "somewhat of a teddy bear" off the field.

Suh is partly responsible for making ferocious defense sexy in a college football season when defense stole the show. Now he gets to play for the Big 12 championship Saturday against BCS No. 3 Texas at Cowboys Stadium.

"I love playing in big games," he said this week. "I think we're ready to go out there and challenge Texas."

Suh breaks the mold of defensive tackles with his athleticism. SportsDay's Big 12 defensive player of the year can toss opponents like they're Cabbage Patch Kids, but he can also drop back in coverage. He is tied for the Huskers' lead in tackles with 70 and second to Crick with 7 ½ sacks.

Saturday, he will try to harass UT quarterback Colt McCoy, the Heisman Trophy favorite in most polls.

Suh, the only defensive player among the five finalists for the Walter Camp Football Foundation player of the year award, has wedged his name into the Heisman conversation with the offensive cover boys. Still, he isn't projected as a finalist in most of the latest polls.

"He may the best player in college football," Texas coach Mack Brown said. "Someone was asking about the Heisman, and he might be in that mix if they had a defensive player that could do it. He's huge and just dominates. ... When it's a defensive tackle and you're going into the game knowing that he can change the game, every play that you run you have to be aware of where he is and what he does."

Heisman Trophy or not, Suh is projected as one of the top picks in the NFL draft – if not the top.

"It's definitely huge stuff," Suh said. "The way I look at it, I've worked myself into that position. I can accept it because of the hard work I've put in and will continue to put in."

Suh credits his work ethic to his upbringing in Portland, Ore.

He's the son of Bernadette, who is from Jamaica, and of Michael, who is from Cameroon. In the Ngema tribe in Cameroon, Ndamukong means "House of Spears."

Bernadette is a teacher, Michael a self-made success who installs heating and air-conditioning systems. Ndamukong's older sister played soccer at Mississippi State.

"I just try to follow their footsteps in a different way," Suh said. "Even though I have the opportunity to take care of my family, my dad still wants to work. ... It's just how my family is."

Suh, who is scheduled to earn his degree in construction management this month, debated returning for his senior season but said he believes he made the right decision.

"I give him a lot of credit," Nebraska coach Bo Pelini said. "He walked away from a lot of money ... and came back here with a purpose and he played that way. It shows a lot about who he is and the type of character he has."

His signature game this season may have come against Missouri. Suh had a sack and caused a fumble, recorded three hurries and broke up a pass – and he grabbed his fourth career interception.

"Well, that ball was kind of thrown low, though," Suh reasoned.

Teammates say Suh has always played with all-out abandon.

"He's the most ferocious person out there," said Crick, who has a friendly competition going with Suh on their sack counts. "He'll do anything it takes to win. Scrap, fight, whatever."

But Suh said he's prided himself on honing what no coach can install and no technique can fix – the effort with which he plays, better known in football speak as his "motor."

"It's one thing in football that you can really control," Suh said. "It's a huge part of your game. You can have all the technique you want, but if you don't have the effort to add with it, you might as well not play football."


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Keep in mind what this guy has done this year. 81 tackles, 23 tackles for loss, 12 sacks, 22 quarterback hurries, 10 pass break ups, 3 blocked field goals and an interception..


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stats aren't everything... but i question anyones marbles if you don't look at those stats and just say "damn"...


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I'm sold...we've got a lot of parts to aquire but in this down n dirty division this guy is just what the doctor ordered!

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Couldn't watch the Nebraska-Texas game but did get to listen to it on the radio - thank you sirius. Suh was very impressive. He is back on the top of my list with Berry right there. I don't think we can do wrong with either. I think both are game changers.

I think we take Suh #1 overall and if we don't have the #1 overall pick take Berry. I think the only way we can screw up this draft is by reaching for a Qb unworthy of the a top 3 pick.


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Hey ya'll

Something small I've noticed about Tebow is that he's a left handed QB. So if we drafted him to be our QB, would that negate the value of Joe Thomas since he's meant to protect a QB's blind side?

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The most important thing there is that JT would still be going up against the team's best pass rusher.

Here's what I do if I'm the Browns picking 1st:

1. Ndamukong Suh
The Rest - BPA other than D-Line and WR.

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Suh would do for our LB's what the Raven D-line has done for them for years!
Granted we need big help there also but that move alone improves the LB's and secondary and what they can do.

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Question of the night....

Browns are drafting #1 and San Fran falls in love with Suh and offers us their two first rounders....let's just say they end up being #12 and #15 (their own and Carolina's)

Do you take it?

At that point you have your choice of a combo are any of the following:

Bulaga (OT), Mays (S), Benn (WR), Hardy (OLB), Bryant (WR), D. Morgen (OLB), McCoy/Locker/Bradford (QB), Gresham (TE), McClain (MLB), Hughes, (OLB) to name a few that should be there at least at #12

In my heart of hearts, I take the stud


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I take the deal every single time. Lots of very good players would stillb e available.

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Take the deal! Good players and save money. Win win.


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Any other draft, I prob. take the deal, but...

I don't think we can get a difference maker like Suh or Berry at #12 and or #15.

I say this because I think Suh or Berry have a 0% chance of being busts. Our chances of picking a bust at #12 and #15 increase a lot in this years draft. There is some great talent in this years draft, but the players that I consider to be of any chances of becoming a bust are Suh, Berry, and McClain. I think we must get one of those guys in the 1st.

However, if we do take the deal... I think we need to go Best OL and Best Playmaker (Bryant, Lafell, Spiller, Dwyer)

I like Quinn's ability when he has protection. I think we surround him with a better line then he plays much better than he has. He seems scared when the pocket collapses. Get him a lineman and a playmaker and I think he does pretty good.

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Do you think we can pick uo Lafavour (sp.) qb. in the second. I think he would be a nice player to develop if the new czar isn't going to keep our two. and pick up a vet.

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No one has a zero percent chance of busting. Not A.J. Hawk, Courtney Brown, Dan Wilkinson, or Gerrard Warren.

LeFevour could even fall to the 4th or later. He's a 3rd rounder at the absolute earliest. Could be a good value late.

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maybe not a 0%, but its very low for those players.... Every player usually has some questions about them coming out.

I have yet to hear anything bad about Suh, Berry, or McClain. I think these players are destined for great things barring any injuries.

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I say this because I think Suh or Berry have a 0% chance of being busts




Tell that to Ki-Jana Carter...


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exactly...

plus.. they wouldnt give us both 1st rounders anyway.. they saw how the jets got over on us.. so they would try the same.


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After the Texas game, count me in the "Draft Suh!" camp.



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Suh and Rogers (Homer Simpson-like drooooooolllll . . .)

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Hey all. I wanted to throw my .02 in.

I went to the big12 game...and I want to say to you all that I have seen a bunch of football on all levels and Suh was the most dominate player I have ever seen, I have not seen him play prior to staurday night, but the guy is an absolute beast. He would be a total difference maker at the 5 tech in our Defense. Played on a completely different level than anybody on the field.

Count me as another one in the Suh camp. I would sprint to the stage with my card if he were on the board.

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A: None of those guys are even the best at their positions. Serious talent in FA this year.

B: Unfortunately, if there isn't a new CBA, almost none of the FA's will be UFA's, as all 4 and 5 year pros would be restricted.





Perhaps not...but they are guys that I would guess even see free agency. Alot of the studs that are eligible will be resigned by their current teams. I think these are the players that are good and will likely hit the market.

Why fool one's self and anticipate signing a guy who will never even see free agency?

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I watched both games..and I'm not wavering off Suh..

1 -Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska

33- Ryan Matthews RB Fresno St/Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State

65- Jeremy Williams WR Tulane

75- Brandon Lang DE Troy

97 - A.J. Edds LB Iowa

129-Josh Davis OT Georgia

131-Terrel Skinner SS Maryland

141-Josh Pinkard CB USC

161-Jarrett Brown QB WV

171-Sergio Render OG VT

193-Kendrick Eliis DT Hampton




Now I would prefer to get a impact backer in the second and one of the backs to fall to the third..so if I could do this :


1- Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska
33- Brandon Spikes LB Florida
65- Anthony Dixon, RB Mississippi State
75- Jeremy Williams WR Tulane
97 - Brandon Lang DE Troy
129- Drew Davis OT Alabama
131-Myron Rolle SS Florida State
141-Josh Pinkard CB USC
161-Jarrett Brown QB WV
171-Sergio Render OG VT
193-Kendrick Eliis DT Hampton









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Some of you guys need to just forget about trading out of the #1 pick. Theirs a better chance of monkeys flying out of my butt then that happening.

Also I've read on some websites that people think Rolando McClain is better then Suh Personally I think Donta Hightower is just as good if not better.

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I think McClain is a stud, but Suh is just on such another level.

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I think McClain is a stud, but Suh is just on such another level.




I only got to see one game (Texas) and he was the most dominant college D-lineman I've ever seen.

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