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To inaccurate and way to slow of decision maker. He is given the option of a checkdown and throw deep yet he never does. The Ray Lewis tip play that Gruden called a "wasted" play in the first half when Robo adjusted to the coverage(single coverage) was classic Quinn failure. He should have known even before the snap that single coverage was the defense and aired it out giving Robo a chance.

This is why Mangini benched Quinn for Anderson. It ended up giving us about our only "professional" start of the year, but Anderson is a mental midget and crashed under the pressure.

The Browns need a veteren QB BAD. Somebody that at least knows how to play the game while they nurse a youngster.

Not helping when his coaches are showing as much faith in him as they would show a fan right out of the stands.

The play calling has been awful...no one would be successful in this play calling.

Playcalling isn't an excuse for bad accuracy, no confidence, and just awful play.

Everyone here knows i like Anderson HOWEVER

this is the worst play calling I have EVEr seen in my life.

Daboll has no confidence in Quinn, the "few times" about 5 minutes ago they let Quinn throw deep, he pushed 2 good balls 25+ yards...they weren't caught, but they were good thrown balls.

however, Even though I think Anderson deserves a shot still, Quinn is NOT this bad

This play calling, terrible WR and TE, and a sieve of a right side of the OL Quinn has no chance to succeed in this circumstance none

Quinn is being set up to fail here, just like Anderson was set up to fail as well.

Eric Mangini RUINED this franchise...say what you want, but getting rid of Kellen Winslow was the biggest mistake this franchise EVER made, and mark my words next year or the year after, Tampa Bay will rise, and Winslow will be a HUGE reason for that.

Winslow was "every" bit as good as Ozzie Newsome in his day, in fact, Winslow(after missing two seasons) was one pace to BREAK all of Ozzie Newsomes Records...ALL OF THEM

you NEVER get rid of a player of that caliber...NEVER

sure Edwards wasn't half the pass-catcher Winslow was...Winslow was the cog in the wheel...Winslow was a play maker....sure Winslow had an attitude, but by god the guy had fire, passion, and heart, he wanted to win...see how he threw Joey Porter like a sack of potatoes...he renewed the Steeler rivarly for 2 years all by himself for petes sake.

we have no talent now...Winslow should have been kept PERIOD

gurantee our offense looks 4 times better with Winslow out there today...that pass that bounced off Royal for 6 would have been caught by Winslow..guranteed...Winslow catches that ball every time

I am so freaking ticked right now...Mangini has ruined this team for the next decade...whatever happened to building on what you have? Dan Reeves did it with the Giants...he didn't trade everybody, he built on what was there.

these clowns Lerner keeps hiring, tearing everything down getting rid of anyone who actually has any talent has to stop and it has to stop NOW

its not Quinns fault or Anderson's fault...Man-Moron traded away any talent we did have, and replaced it with nothing...were worse than the Lions last year...were worse than the Clippers, were worse then the expansion Tampa Bay Bucs for petes sake!

I hope you folks are ready to lavish in 10+ loss seasons for the next decade, because Mangini has ruined this team.....ruined it....

Me neither. I had always thought he would be good. He has continued to prove me wrong.

I've said this before and I'm going to say it again. I don't want to see Quinn take another snap as a Cleveland Brown. Give me DA and his 0.0 passer rating all day.

And when I get fed up with his arse, I'm going to watch the game film of this game again to remind of why I never want Quinn to take another snap as a Cleveland Brown.

This season cannot get over fast enough.

What did Daboll and this bunch do all week?

Once again, it is not the playcalling. They are playcalling to what BQ CAN DO. He always has the option to throw the ball down the field which we see when WR's make adjustments to the coverage allowing BQ to throw the ball down the field. This was a slam on BE, but in this case, BE was not in fault, it was BQ for not reading the coverage properly(or having the confidence throwing the ball down the field. Even when he throws it down the field, he looks like sheet).

It has been downhill for BQ since the Broncos game. By the Texans game, it was a preview of what was to come.

The only "professional" QB game we have had was DA vs. the Bengals and it was only serviceable.

Give this team a QB and we improve a lot. The defense is making slow progress. But the offense is DOA to the QB situation is vastly improved.

Yes the play calling and Brian Daboll are both jokes.

But how anyone can say anything positive about Quinn at this point is beyond me. Nothing can sum it up better than the last posession when in obvious hail-mary throws with no pressure on him - he threw the ball out of bounds by a good 5-10 yards. As Gruden said so eloquently, you have to be able to throw the ball between the lines.

Quinn is done. Anderson is done. Give me Ratliff - how in the name of God could he be worse?

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He always has the option to throw the ball down the field

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Bullcrap. We ran more bubble screens and quick slants by design than I've ever seen... He had maybe 6 or 7 plays with a legit downfield option and on most of those he was running for his life.. it IS the playcalling, it is the execution (or lack thereof).. and it's all 11 guys. This offense if absolutely awful from the top down....

The defense had the same amount of time to prepare as the offense and in general I see the defense disguising, moving people around, adjusting audibles to the offense... I see the Browns offense break the huddle and on EVERY FREAKIN' PLAY Quinn or somebody is telling people where to line up. This offense is totally unprepared and looks absolutely LOST. Maybe we need to spend less time learning to send 5 guys in motion before every snap and actually figure out how to RUN THE FREAKIN' PLAY!!!!!!

While all of that matters, Quinn doesn't have what it takes either. It's a bad marriage of ineptness.

the offensive line sucked tonight.

And the excuses continue.

I don't believe that for a second.

I just wanna add one more thing on the subject of Quinn: He may still end up being a decent QB. But it won't be with us, and I'm not seeing it out of him right now. His only chance is if he gets his confidence back and goes back to who he was at ND.

Brady Quinn really sparked the offense tonight

As much as I hate to say it, I'd much rather watch DA play for the Browns for the rest of the season than watch BQ out there. At least it feels like we have a real drive here or there with DA. BQ you know you'll get a couple check downs and a punt everytime...

That's what the opposing team knows too.

Ah the old so and so must know better. Everyone is wrong sometimes. I think that a QB who hits his guys in stride and has confidence could be successful with this playcalling.

Has nothing to do with being inaccurate and lacking confidence.

Those last two passes in a row downfield that went 5 yards out of bounds were completely ridiculous. I mean, pa-the-tic. I honestly don't know how Brady Quinn will even sleep tonight.

DA has the physical skills, but not the brains, fortitude, or any help- all of which makes him useless in Cleveland. Quinn flat out sucks. It's amazing how Quinn can actually put up better numbers than DA and look worse in the process... and Ratliff looked like a joke in the preseason against 3rd and 4th string Ds.

Fuggedabowdit. We're done.

Seriously, you guys. I was getting nauseated watching this dink-miss-dunk-miss-tip-dink-crash BS for the ENTIRE game. It was like being on a malfunctioning carnival ride. The Browns are truly football-retarded.

He didn't have confidence to start the season either. He hasn't had it all year. I'm done defending the coaching staff. I've said all I have to say there.

True, but Quinn isn't showing the signs of a good QB. I think you still see good things even if someone is being held back.

I will reiterate my earlier statement. Quinn still may end up decent. But it won't be with us, and he isn't now.

I actually think Brady Quinn has a truckload of confidence. Maybe too much.

The problem is, the confidence part of his brain doesn't seem to get the message to the execution part of his brain.

I really believe this is just a case of a guy who did well in college, but still doesn't and/or may never have the athleticism for th pro game. Hopefully I'm wrong, but uh...

In what I believe were the only 2 full games BQ played last year (Den and Buf) we somehow put up 30 and 29 points. How did that happen? He didn't set the world on fire in those couple games, but he certainly did not look like the 2009 version of himself. This team is disgusting. Trent Dilfer said something for the first time in his lifee that I agreed with. The Browns players can not be this bad, but they sure aren't reaching their potential. You can't just point at the quarterback, and that goes for both BQ and DA. The playcalling is simply gross. The O line is a mess. They couldn't stop a 3 man rush. We do not have a legitimate running back. WRs and QB are young and often not on the same page. It's real bad and it starts with Mangini and Daboll.

Quinn might be a Tommy Maddex or a Kurt Warner someday, but he won't be a decent NFL QB anytime soon.

I don't know how many people caught it, but Steve Young burried him after the game tonight, saying he lacked confidence and talent to be an NFL QB.

I did catch Steve Young's comments. He said BQ has to scratch something out in a game like this. Umm...what's there to scratch out? Yeah, he missed some throws, but he's been riding pine since week 3. At least by the end of this season we as fans can hopefully have some peace of mind knowing that we either have a guy worth keeping or we don't.

Steve Young also pretty much said if he played for this team he'd consider going to law school. Funny.

Everyone on offense sucked tonight. Period.

Everyone on offense has sucked this entire season. Period.