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I have to say, I never thought Parcells would ever come here. I still don't think he will, but there seems to be at least a chance. NBC Sports/Pro Football Talk: Quote:
With the Browns still searching for a new leader of the franchise's football operations and Dolphins V.P. of football operations Bill Parcells free to cash out the rest of his contract and leave for another gig at any time, it was inevitable that Parcells' name would emerge as a candidate for the job in Cleveland.
And, per a league source, it has.
Though we've previously heard that Parcells will be back in Miami for the third year of his four-year deal, predictability and Parcells are hardly synonymous. The man is a master at building and capitalizing on leverage, and the 2010 hiring cycle prevents him with a prime opportunity to do so, again.
Even if he fully intends to return to the Dolphins, the fact that Parcells previously has used his best poker face to convert a small window of opportunity to leave Miami and receive the balance of his salary upon the sale of controlling interest in the team into an open-ended rip cord to walk away at any time with the balance of his pay in his pockets suggests to us that, at a minimum, Parcells will play any interest from the Browns into a sizable raise from Stephen Ross, new owner of the Dolphins.
So regardless of whether the Browns or the Dolphins or someone else secure Parcells' services for 2010, Parcells will once again emerge as a winner.
Also, Terry Pluto made a comment about Parcells.
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9. Not sure what to make of the Bill Parcells rumors to the Browns, other than Parcells does have an out in his contract with Miami -- and he loves to change jobs. But he also can easily use the Browns to get a better deal, be it from Miami or another team.
He made that comment because of this article from Tony Grossi.
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I thought it was just a few weeks ago that Holmgren was a lock to come here.
I'll believe all these things when I see it.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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Parcells is garbage.. the dolphins still suck. they only win b/c they have a gimmick offense that is tough to stop.
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A 1-15 team two years ago with no talent.
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Parcells is garbage.. the dolphins still suck. they only win b/c they have a gimmick offense that is tough to stop.
wish we had garbage that sucks....and won because they are tough....
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Parcells has a track record of being a short-timer, but he knows his stuff.
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Parcells is garbage.. the dolphins still suck. they only win b/c they have a gimmick offense that is tough to stop.
I get it now. You're pulling the ol' Costanza "say the opposite" thing.
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I wouldn't mind Parcells coming here at all but am just a little weary of his age.
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I wouldn't mind Parcells coming here at all but am just a little weary of his age.
Parcells knows how to hire the right people and make the right picks. He's not senile yet, believe me.
And the Wildcat is not a gimmick offense...you're going to see more and more Wildcat/spread option in the NFL in coming years...just you wait.
Hell, I bet if Urb ever makes the jump to the NFL he'll be wildly successful.
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Deisle.........Hope you've been well man.
Been a little tuff...nothing I can`t handle....thanks for asking ...really good to talk to you guys again...when I can..
As far as Parcells being a short timer...is that a good thing for a team that needs rebuilding ?
Maybe its like having kids...get one riding the bike...then moving on to the next...just enjoys teaching people to stand on their own....
I personally would like to see someone come in and if successful stay awhile for the stability of the team....like falling off the bike then turning your back...instead of reaching out with your hand and picking them up... makes some stronger...but maybe some need that hand a little longer...
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Parcells won't give a darn about the Browns..
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Parcells won't give a darn about the Browns..
And why's that?
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Parcells won't give a darn about the Browns..
never know....he went to a Dolphins team that resembled this years Browns....
it`s a challenge for him...might be his drive...
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Money and lot's of it have a great influence on one's decision.
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Parcells won't give a darn about the Browns..
Money and lot's of it have a great influence on one's decision.
About two years ago there was talk of Parcells leaving and his comment was " I already have more money than I can spend, I don't know what I'd do with any more" .
So he may have interest because of ego - but not money.
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It just seems everyone is using us as leverage.Holmgreen used us to most likely get the Seattle Job, Parcells will use to get a better contract....It blows but what can you do.
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I don't know how you could call a offense that has been around since the 40's a gimmick. But ok.
And I'm sure they got to #3 in the league in rushing because they suck....>.>
Seriously, Parcells doesn't install the offense or the defense. He has hired the coaches and runs the football side of everything down here. The coaches are the ones that put the game plans together and do what they want with their players.
I would love to have Parcells as our VP.
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Parcells is garbage.. the dolphins still suck. they only win b/c they have a gimmick offense that is tough to stop.
1. Parcells is garbage? Umm.. Wow. I don't even know what to say to this.
2. I don't care if we win with a gimmick offense. I don't care if we run "The Annexation of Puerto Rico" every play as long as we win  (A Little Giants reference for those who forget lol)
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Parcells is garbage.. the dolphins still suck. they only win b/c they have a gimmick offense that is tough to stop.
Two years ago they were 1-15. This year their starting QB and best offensive player Ronnie Brown are done for the year. They are 5-6. I may have done the math wrong but isn't 5-6 better than 1-10? Also, they are still using the wildcat with moderate success despite Ronnie being gone.
Parcells had the balls to fire Cameron after only one season so if bringing in Parcells is what it takes to kick Mangini to the curb then so be it!
I don't see Cleveland being used as leverage. Holgren doesn't want to go back to Seattle, he has already said that, and he declined an interview with Buffalo (albeit for a coaching position). I think he is being true to his word about being interested in Cleveland. Parcells; however, may be looking for a bigger deal with Miami so I could see the leverage play there.
Someone on the board (can't remember who off the top of my head) made a great point about Cleveland being an ideal spot for someone to come into because if they succeed they will be regarded as an absolute genius and if they fail it will be chalked up to no one can win there. Something tells me men who have been successful has Holmgren and Parcells and their respective ego's would love that opportunity. With their track record, if they do fail it will most certainly will not be regarded as their fault. Now think of what it does for their legacy if they succeed.....
Holmgren or Parcells bring instant credibility and I'd be happy with either.
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I'm convinced Parcell's can fix a team better and quicker than anyone else. The Browns are (and have been) so darn bad, I wonder if the commish might actually URGE him to pick Cleveland. 
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Money and lot's of it have a great influence on one's decision.
He did turn this family down twice already.
But like I said with Homlgren, if he turned this franchise around, it would be a shorter trip to Canton. Not that Parcells would need the help anyways bit this would be the 5th city of fans that would be getting their picture taken to next to his bronze head..
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Holgren doesn't want to go back to Seattle, he has already said that, and he declined an interview with Buffalo (albeit for a coaching position).
I knew that he declined to interview for Buffalo, But I didn't know he said he didn't want to go back to Seattle.. Where did you get that info,. please share it with me..
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Do people who have money leave Miami and move to Cleveland?
Let's be real.
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Do people who have money leave Miami and move to Cleveland?
Let's be real.
Sure for the right set of circumstances.. Don't overthink it Olskool.. I can't begin to understand why some of these guys do what they do.
But to let you know that it happens,, Butch Davis did it and at the time, he was considered one of the best college coaches and NFL HC material.. So his stock was very very high. He was making a damn fine buck in Florida,,, and moved to Cleveland for what he was quoted as saying was his dream job..
So yeah,, they will move if they want the job or the challenge.
There is NO QUESTION, that this is a challenge...none..
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I'm not saying Parcells would for sure come.
But, just think about the mans ego. He loves situations like we're in right now.
He could leave Miami right now and think "I've turned them into a respectable, competitive team... I think I'm going to go do the same thing with Cleveland."
Don't underestimate the ego of Bill Parcells.
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I knew that he declined to interview for Buffalo, But I didn't know he said he didn't want to go back to Seattle.. Where did you get that info,. please share it with me..
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I know I heard this; however, upon looking for the exact quote I can't find it for the life of me. I think I may have heard it on ESPN but in the form of the dredded "per a source close to Holmgren" and that really isn't worth a damn. So your right, a little premature to say he doesn't want to go back to Seatlle, my apologies on that one guys.
Interesting note I found while looking for that quote however.
Holmgren has not yet decided if he wants to return as a coach or in the capacity of a front office job.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/stevekelley/2010385328_kelley30.html
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WOW Wiz,, I was hoping that you were right... Thanks for clearing that up.
Yeah, I remember seeing something on him not having decided on coaching or management yet. Perhaps that's why he wants to see how things shake out after the season.. dunno..
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WOW Wiz,, I was hoping that you were right... Thanks for clearing that up.
Yeah, I remember seeing something on him not having decided on coaching or management yet. Perhaps that's why he wants to see how things shake out after the season.. dunno..
Yes I know big blunder on my part. Once again my apologizes. Swore I heard that but looks like I'm a little 
Makes me wonder if he did talk to Lerner, what exactly they talked about?? Perhaps they talked about him coaching and not the front office position and that is why: one) both parties are so adament they did not meet. two) like you said may be why he wants to wait to the end of the season.
I dont know as much about this as others, but if they did in fact have a meeting and it was about Coaching the Cleveland Browns if either party discussed it publically would it be considered "tampering" under NFL guidelines since Mangini is currently under contract as the coach of the Browns?
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