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Sorry but I have to rant for a sec.

I really am tired of this "disease". I just found out that a friend I've known since the 5th grade just lost his battle. This is the second friend that I graduated with that has been taken out by this...along with my grandparents and a couple other relatives.

I'm sick of ribbons and telethons and marathons and all this other jazz...it's time for the greater minds of this world to DO SOMETHING about it!!

May my friend rest and no longer have to fight!


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I am sorry about your friend, my friend. I hope his soul rests in the hands of God.

Maybe science and medicine can't do anything about it?

I guess what I am saying is we can't cure everything, and maybe this is one of those deals.

I do understand the frustration having lost my mother to brain cancer and currently have a friend with liver cancer, with her current prognosis not being very positive.


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Sorry for your loss . Cancer is a bitch no doubt . Everyone and I mean everyone on my mothers side dies of cancer of some sort . My mother (thymic) , both of her parents(lung and liver ) and 2 brothers (brain , lung ) so far and that is just immediate family.

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My sincerest condolences to you and those in your friendship circle(s)....I have been a living victim on too many occasions to count. Mom, Sister, Aunt, Uncle, Cousin, Brother, etc., etc.

Personally I think alot of this comes from the all the 'processed' crap we buy, in combination with hereditary genes, bad decisions (smoking, for example), and lack of exercise.

Like 'Peen said, even science and technology may never be able to help.

One day at a time and hope for a better afterlife; that's my plan.

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i don't really think there will ever be a cure for cancer, but i think they can definitely make advances in trying to catch it even earlier than they can now.

i watched my girlfriend's aunt go from having absolutely nothing wrong with her, to succombing to it in less than a few months. it was extremely tough.

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Pancreatic is the one that worries me,....virtually undetectable.

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Pancreatic is the one that worries me,....virtually undetectable.




They can detect it....how would they know you had it if they couldn't detect it?

The problem is it doesn't show any or many symptoms on it's own until it is in late stage. Most of the symptoms come from other organs, such as the stomach after it metastises from the pancreas.

Short of have a CAT scan on a regular basis, you are right, you usually don't know it is present until the reports are grim.


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I'm so very sorry for your loss. I've lost two grandparents to Cancer as well as my father, both his sisters and his brother and countless friends.. So I do understand your anger towards cancer.

I doubt if this helps you any, but 30 years ago, if you were diagnosed with Kidney cancer,, you were a goner.. In 2000, I was diagnosed with Kidney cancer,,, and I'm still here, cancer free for the last 9 years..

Still get my annual checkups because that stuff scares the bejesus out of me.

Again, I am sorry for your loss, but take heart, progress is being made, I'm living proof of it.


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My condolences.


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I'm sick of ribbons and telethons and marathons and all this other jazz...it's time for the greater minds of this world to DO SOMETHING about it!!





To be honest, pledging money through both of those methods is a great way to support non-profits who then give out some of that money towards research.

Think back 50 years ago at the state of medicine and compare it to now. That's going to be the difference in medicine between now and 2040, ie 30 years from now. We'll get there. Our knowledge of how the species Homo sapien works grows everyday. Partly through study of ourselves, but also through the study of other organisms. I'm sorry for your loss, I can only try to give you hope that your children with have less problems medicinally than you have.

The problem with the idea of "curing cancer," and the public perception of it, is that the phrase is actually a misnomer. Every cancer is different in it's cellular properties and mechanisms so therefore treatment is differential for each individual case more often than not. It may change from person to person. Some can be caused genetically, others virally. So will they ever "cure cancer?" No. Will we possibly be able to identify and treat genetic disorders that lead to it? Probably, we're very close to gene therapy treatments and some of these genetic cancers (like some forms of breast cancer) will be the first to go. Will we be able to vaccinate against certain viruses that cause cancer? The problem here is identifying viruses that cause cancers. We've started this now with gardasil. Other treatments on the horizon involve gold particles that that are specific for cell surface proteins (antigens) that are expressed only on cancerous cells, then zapping the body with concentrated electromagnetic radiation which heats up the cells with the gold particles on it, but nothing else. Another treatment is being developed by using computer guided super-precise lasers that are capable of emitting a focus beam of light that destroys one cell, without changing the temperature of the surrounding cells. The cool part? They don't need to make a single incision into your body.


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My mom just got a test for a growth on her ovary and according to the test there is a 60% chance its cancer.

An now she is complaining about a "lump" in her throat.

50 years old and she is currently stressed to the max.

She gets a full histerectomy next thursday and hopefully the 9 centimeter growth is not cancerous.


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Damn Tyler,, best of luck to your mom....


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I feel your pain brother.I had a friend that I knew my whole life get cancer.She was like a sister to me.I played little league baseball with her brother and our parents hung out together.We even skipped school a few times and hung out all day.Never anything between us except being very good friends.

I watched this disease eat away at her and in the end,if I didn't know it was her,I would never have recognized her she looked so bad.

I don't know if they will ever find a cure,but hopefully they do soon.

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lost my father to stomach cancer three years ago. when they detect it, it's usually too late. In my father's case it took all of three months, post diagnosis.

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Condolences...

I lost my dad in 1989 to liver cancer after a 9 year battle that saw him initially have it in the duodenum (a part of the small intestine) back in 1980. He had a procedure called "Whipple procedure" They removed 1/3 of his pancreas, beginning of small intestine and a few other things cut out of him. He didn't have much of a chance getting off the operating table (they didn't tell me at the time), but did and after some complications, he was in good shape until it finally found him again 8-1/2 years later. He started having some pains again and when the doctors got done with their tests, they told him he had 6 months. He made it 9.

Cancer sucks.


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Pancreatic is the one that worries me,....virtually undetectable.




They can detect it....how would they know you had it if they couldn't detect it?

The problem is it doesn't show any or many symptoms on it's own until it is in late stage. Most of the symptoms come from other organs, such as the stomach after it metastises from the pancreas.

Short of have a CAT scan on a regular basis, you are right, you usually don't know it is present until the reports are grim.




I watched my dad die from pancreatic cancer. It was horrible. When most pancreatic victims are diagnosed, it's usually stage 2 or stage 3. One of the deadliest forms I've seen. When Dad was diagnosed, the doctor told him 6 months.

My heart goes out to everyone that has ever been touched by this disease.


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