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Hey guys (new to the boards here as a poster but I've been a long-time lurker).

I think it's safe to say that with Jamal retiring at year's end, along with Jerome Harris' contract expiring in '10, we are going to need a decision (and stability) in the back-field if we're going to progress.

We have some positives: 11 draft picks, and a QB that a few teams might still hold interest in, being Anderson.

Normally, I wouldn't have mentioned Anderson as part of the trade; his value has gone down quite a bit but Carolina is in need of a younger QB, and possibly a stop-gap until they find the man. Matt Moore may be that man (he was impressive against Minnesota), but also, he may not be. Jake Delhomme is on a severe decline and he's not getting any younger. Him and Anderson have similar playing styles: both have big arms.

DeAngelo Williams' Carolina contract ends in 2011, and from observation, it appears the Carolina fans much prefer Williams to Stewart as the work-horse. Jonathan Stewart is a powerful back, and has excellent vision for his size (he's also only 22-years old); he's the perfect back for the division we play in with the likes of Mendenhall, Benson and Rice. All three are power backs. All three of them are still rather young, and entering their primes.

What do you think of us acquiring Jonathan Stewart from the Panthers for draft picks + Anderson? Stewart MIGHT be expensive but again, with observation, many of the Panthers' fans don't believe they will get equal compensation for where they drafted him (#13 overall). We can re-sign Harrison and the two can compliment one another with their different styles.

Back-by-committee systems don't last long, especially when both backs are feature backs. Williams and Stewart can't co-exist forever. It's happening in Tennessee (LenDale has been phased out), it happened in New York (Ward is gone), it happened in Pittsburgh (Mendenhall is the #1, Parker has also been phased out).

With Holmgren coming in, we can restore what the organization has been known for; running the ball. Stewart is the mold to accomplish that.

Thoughts?

Not for me thanks. We have too many needs to go piling picks onto one position.

Carolina would demand a 1st round pick for Stewart, so no thanks...he is cheap and they are at no or little risk of losing him anytime soon.

with the way RBs get injured in today's NFL....you need at least 2 and they have 2 very good ones.

I like his style....and it's a good thought, but likely a pipe-dream.

I have been thinking about a way to get him all year. My dream scenario would have been if Braylon would have reached the receptionn mark and we could have landed the Jets second round pick, then package Corey Williams and a second round pick to Carolina since they're defensive line is hurting so bad.

With the emergence of Rubin it might not be a bad idea to land a defensive lineman in the draft and try and package a deal with Rogers and a pick.

I don't think Carolina is going to be too interested in Derek Anderson.

But if there was a back in the league I would be willing to trade for it would be Jonathan Stewart. My second choice would be Michael Bush. All depending on what Harrison shows these last few games getting the bulk of the carries.

Jonathan Stewart is a Jerome Harrison clone. We already have one on the roster that we drafted. Maybe keeping our own players who perform would be good for once.

Why would any team take on Anderson's $7 million roster bonus plus salary for next season? AKA - if anyone wants him, he'll be a free agent in a couple months.

As per RB, I'm perfectly content with seeing what we have with Davis, Jennings, and Harrison next season. Afterall, we've been a decent running team since Jamal was put on IR.

remember that Carolina's DL is hurting so much because of injuries. they have some good DTs on IR. So they may not want Corey Williams so badly as depth as to make them weak somewhere else.

Jonathan Stewart is the polar opposite of Harrison. Stewart is a bruising back who pounds it out.

I'd love to get him, but I don't consider it likely. They'd be stupid to get rid of a player as young and talented as he.

Yes. Him and Williams compliment each other quite well.

We certainly aren't going to pay him 7.5 million to ride the pine.

exactly!

We can just get Legarrette Blount.

I like Stewart a lot as a RB for us. However, I think we would have to too high of a draft pick to acquire him, i.e. 1st or 2nd and 3rd (just speculating) making it not really practical and in all likelihood improbable. We can't afford to give up that high of picks with more pressing needs on our end, IMO. I don't think floating Anderson out there would swing the trade in our favor either.

It would be nice to see him in our backfield though.

Teams don't trade talented and productive first round picks in their second year. Ever.

They do when they can get some value out of him and have one franchise back in Williams and another very capable back in Sutton.

If they got the right offer he would be gone, guaranteed.

I thought the same thing while watching the game.Namely what it might take to acquire Williams or Stewart. Although I definately wouldn't complain if we got Stewart, I don't think he would come cheap. I do agree with the idea of drafting Blount. If I remember correctly Scout rankings have him projected somewhere around round 5.I think that would be the better option at this point.

i think it would be cheaper to make a reasonable offer to Dallas for Choice. I would take either Choice or Jones, but with Barber as their solid #1, Jones offers more of the homerun threat, whereas Choice has been a more balanced #2...

i think that Harrison, Choice, and Jennings could be a legitimate committee at RB until we are in a position to find a stud. now, maybe Dallas would want too much, i don't know...but they're clearly letting some value sit on the pine with all 3 talented backs. and IF we were to switch back to a 4-3, there may be a DL or two we'd be willing to part with along with the Jets pick, e.g.

I like Stewart, but I also don't want to give up picks for him. To me, LenDale White is intriguing b/c he could be an unrestricted free agent this year (provided a new CBA gets done) and we wouldn't have to give up picks. He also will not want to sit on the bench while Chris Johnson gets all the carries. I haven't seen a lot of him, but from what I have seen I like his power running style.

And no they actually DIDN'T know he was a stud when they drafted Stewart. Williams was there for two years before he really broke out and that was Stewart's rookie year. The Panthers used him sparingly and he was made to share carries because it was believed that he wasn't big enough to handle a full load between the tackles and they didn't want to risk getting him hurt.


Speaking of John Fox, I would love to have him here if for some reason Holmgren decides to let Mangini go and Carolina fires Fox.

Carolina has been one of my favorite teams since they were an expansion team and the Browns were gone. John Fox is a damn good coach.

Show me 1 example of a well liked, productive 1st rounder in his second year, regardless of who else is on the team or at his position, that gets traded for anything ever. They'd rightfully ask for the sun and moon.

Like I said if they got the right offer he would be gone. Not saying that what they would be asking for wouldn't be higher than what I would be willing to give.

All i'm saying is that I would like to have the guy, I wouldn't over pay for him but he would be nice to have.

Teams will be sniffing him out next season and it wouldn't shock me to see a team able to land him.

And technically he would be going into his third year not his second.....

lol. Panthers have no reason to deal him. Stewart-Williams is what that team is made up. They have really no QB of the future, Steve Smith is a solid WR, but nothing outside of him is worth mentioning.

The best LT/RT combo in the league is worth mentioning with Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah. Too bad they're both on IR or Carolina would be having a much better year(they're my NFC team because of all the time I spent in North Carolina). Shows you the importance of a good o-line.

What do you think the "right" price is?

It would require at least two 1st round picks probably more.

Stewart is a 22 year old running back that might go over 1000 yards while not even being the featured back. He's gotten 18 TDs over the last two years. He's 23rd in the league in carries and 5th in rushing TDs so it's not like he's just sitting on the bench going to waste. There is absolutely no chance of us getting Stewart.

I think the cat is out of the bag.. that boy is getting more expensive by the minute..

28 rushes for 206, and 1 TD today against NY.