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Talking now about Cribbs' new deal done. Been working on it since he was still in AZ. Making it sound like the Browns idea of the new deal and the agent's idea are different. Just reminded us that Cribbs is under contract for 3 more years.
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Sounds like Mangini decision is going to be made by the end of the week. Also sounds like there might be a number of requests made by Holmgren for Eric to keep his job.
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Talking now about Cribbs' new deal done. Been working on it since he was still in AZ. Making it sound like the Browns idea of the new deal and the agent's idea are different. Just reminded us that Cribbs is under contract for 3 more years.
Dang, I don't like to hear that the sides aren't on the same page. Well, far enough to be talking about it to the media. He's crazy important to us and our future. He's the reason we won anything this year. Pay the man!
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Talking now about Cribbs' new deal done. Been working on it since he was still in AZ. Making it sound like the Browns idea of the new deal and the agent's idea are different. Just reminded us that Cribbs is under contract for 3 more years.
To be fair, Holmgren also said that he believes that players should get what they deserve.
Dang, I don't like to hear that the sides aren't on the same page. Well, far enough to be talking about it to the media. He's crazy important to us and our future. He's the reason we won anything this year. Pay the man!
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Dang, I don't like to hear that the sides aren't on the same page. Well, far enough to be talking about it to the media. He's crazy important to us and our future. He's the reason we won anything this year. Pay the man!
Of COURSE both sides aren't on the same page ... an agent is prominently involved. 
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Says EM has a legitimate chance of staying. Also says that if change is necessary, it will be done. If not, it won't.
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Talking now about Cribbs' new deal done.
New deal done? Huh is it done or they still talking?
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I think he was short handing it and meant to say "MH is talking about getting a new deal done for Cribbs"
Cribbs still has 3 years left so he's not going anywhere regardless of the deal getting done or not.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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He has lists..lots of names ..record is what it is..can it improve?
He's not going to answer any questions about EM chances..
Going to hire a GM..we know that..
Hey he doesn't care about the system thats ran....yeah right..
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I quote ... "I am not going to coach the team ... I am NOT going to coach the team. If someone wants to sit down and talk football, I'd love that".
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Yes, meant new deal "getting" done. Sorry, trying to hurry to keep up! LOL
1100 just cut into the presser and said the rest of what he's going to say isn't important!! Ugh!! Please keep me posted.
I really wanted to hear what he was going to say about what EM has to say in the meeting tomorrow to convince MH to keep him...
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LMAO...Which team does that???...Pound the desk and say "We're takin' THIS guy"...
Dallas or Oakland...
Go Browns!!!
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Power groups..Kingdom groups not healthy..not gonna coach this year..
Challenge to help the new coach be successful..heheh...new coach..
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- Missed coaching a lot, would like to approach football in different way.
- Excited about possibilities.
- Will make decisions by end of week.
- Wants to hire people, must abide by NFL rules. Will take longer than he wants.
- Wants to get Browns to playoffs, potentially Super Bowl.
- Question: Did you meet with Mangini? Met with Mangini. But wasn't THE meeting. THE meeting will be tomorrow. Doesn't want to blindside Mangini, gave him some things to think about. Wants everyone to think in a like manner.
- Question: Does Eric have legit chance? Absolutely.
- Key to organization is good people.
- Will not coach team this year.
- Ron Wolf said, "I will never give you a player you don't want." Believes that is correct way to work with coach.
- Power groups within organization not healthy.
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What team doesn't listen to their coaches and scouts when selecting players?..aaaaah Cleveland..
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We hit the jackpot with Mike. Incredible presser. I love the honesty.
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..aaaaah Cleveland..
I think he was talking about AL Davis with the hand to desk slaming ( we ARE taking this guy )
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Remains to be seen. Nothing is guaranteed. This is the man that lost the SB to Cowher. Let's not anoint him the second coming just yet.
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yeah, I heard that one ... Freudian slip?
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There is one thing that kind of stuck out to me throughout the entire presser. He kept mentioning that the little power groups within an organization deteriorates a team.
Well we have heard all year that its Mangini's show, and that he runs so much on and off the field, that Holmgren may not like that, and may want a different coach because of it. Of course none of us fans know if Gini is really the dictator that the media claims him to be, but we will see what Holmgren thinks.
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Oh I know but Cleveland is guilty of some of that also..giving coaches players they don't want..
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I think he was talking about AL Davis with the hand to desk slaming ( we ARE taking this guy )
lol.. I forgot about Davis. I was thinking Dallas. but Davis does do that. 
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IMO if he and Mangini can get on the same page, with the way the team is heading, considering the turn-around after the win against Pit, with a decent GM, we might actually have a shot at building a dynasty.
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So is he finished talking now? Or still going?
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After watching this press conference I think Mangini is toast.
I think Holmgren will give him a chance to save his job but he will be have to be 100% blown away with what Mangini has to say. If there is one thing Mangini says or does that Holmgren doesn't like or agree with he's gone.
I think the most telling thing was Holmgren saying, "The goal is to have everyone thinking in a like manner." That makes it seem like he wants to have his people in the organization.
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It's over, they probably have the full presser posted, or will be soon.
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If you've been listening to Mangini at all, they are very much saying the same things. And obviously both want the same things for the team. Mangini getting fired is not a given by any stretch, IMO.
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I am not going to coach this team. We are going to hire people to do that.
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I missed the whole damn thing... Time Warner lost signal in my area,, Aurora, Macedonia etc... STO and 3 ro 4 other channels are all that's missing,,, and the Browns site kept telling me I didn't have Windows media downloaded which of course I do.. That's how I listen to all thier mulitimedia stuff....
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- Excited about possibilities.
- Will make decisions by end of week.
- Wants to hire people, must abide by NFL rules. Will take longer than he wants.
- Wants to get Browns to playoffs, potentially Super Bowl.
- Question: Did you meet with Mangini? Met with Mangini. But wasn't THE meeting. THE meeting will be tomorrow. Doesn't want to blindside Mangini, gave him some things to think about. Wants everyone to think in a like manner.
- Question: Does Eric have legit chance? Absolutely.
- Key to organization is good people.
- Will not coach team this year.
- Ron Wolf said, "I will never give you a player you don't want." Believes that is correct way to work with coach.
- Power groups within organization not healthy.
Good recap...that covers the talking points before the same questions started to be asked.
I will add MH said Mangini absolutely has a chance at staying, MH wouldn't just jerk the guy around if he knew he was a gonner...he wants to have a legit conversation....maybe 2, to see if there is any chemistry there or not.
I think Mangini believes in what he says and is proud of what the team has done. I also believe he is a persuasive speaker in that real...keep him or not, I think Holmgren is going to be impressed and at least feel a little bit like he gave the guy a short stick if he lets him go.
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I think the power base and the "check your ego at the door" sort of comments are telling.
Honestly, I think Holmgren will give him the shot but I'm pretty sure he came here thinking he was 100% going to fire Mangini. Mangini's 4 game winning streak is starting to cause doubt, but I think Holmgren is going to need convinced, IMO.
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After watching this press conference I think Mangini is toast.
I think Holmgren will give him a chance to save his job but he will be have to be 100% blown away with what Mangini has to say. If there is one thing Mangini says or does that Holmgren doesn't like or agree with he's gone.
I think the most telling thing was Holmgren saying, "The goal is to have everyone thinking in a like manner." That makes it seem like he wants to have his people in the organization.
I see why you would think that....but that doesn't really mean EM and MH can't be like minded. I still stand by my odds I gave a few days ago:
60% EM stays as HC
40% Fired by tomorrow night (though that was tonight - moved to tomorrow  )
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The above recap covers it fairly well, he didn't say a whole lot, because he doesn't have a whole lot to say yet. Far more answers by next Monday.
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What I got out of this was the following :
Eric is safe IF he is on board with a TEAM effort. He must be willing to give up or share a lot of the decision making from now on.
Doesn't give a hoot if the coach runs a WCO, 4-3 3-4 as long as it's successful and everyone has the same vision and direction.
Some changes will be coming.
He's NOT meddling in the coaches job this year at all. Won't be on the field instructing, period.
Seems as honest as he can be and is thrilled to get started.
Will he be successful ? Did we strike gold ? Who knows... But this team hasn't had a shot in the arm like this in decades.
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if Mangini gets the boot... is there any guy out there with real coaching "talent?"
I'm almost wanting to keep Mangini, but at the same time, if Holmgren wants to bring in his own people to dictate even his own future as the big chief in charge, then bye bye gini.
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