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BEREA, Ohio -- The Browns have offered Josh Cribbs an "insulting'' $1.4 million a year and his agents are warning that he'll leave the team for good if they don't pay him what he deserves.
"They need to treat him fairly or he'll never play for the Browns again,'' said agent Peter Schaffer. "He will demand a trade and he will walk out of there and they won't see him for the off-season -- they won't see him ever again.''
Schaffer said he and Cribbs' other agent, J.R. Rickert, gave the Browns until the end of the business day today to respond to calls before going public with the details of the situation.
They said Dawn Aponte, vice president of football administration who's handling contracts, responded to two other emails from them about different matters today, but not Cribbs.
"We're done,'' said Schaffer. "There's no middle ground anymore. We've upheld our end of the bargain.''
For comparison's sake, players with similar roles make the following yearly average: Devin Hester -- $5.45 million, Andre Davis -- $4.3 million and Roscoe Parrish -- $3.2 million.
Schaffer said coach Eric Mangini called him midseason and told the agents that if they stopped going public, the Browns would negotiate in good faith and have a deal done by the end of the season.
"Meanwhile, Eric continued to tell Josh he would receive a new deal by the end of the season,'' said Rickert.
The first Friday in December, Schaffer said Aponte called him and said, "I'm sending you a proposal, but you're not going to like it, because I think we know where you want to be and it's not where you want to be.''
The proposal was for $1.4 million a year, not much more than what Cribbs is making now and well below that of other top kick returners in NFL. Four days later, they pulled the offer, saying Browns owner Randy Lerner wanted to wait until the new president was hired.
After Holmgren was named as president, Aponte called Schaffer and Rickert back and said, "Here's what Mike and I are thinking: $1.4 million a year.''
"Not only is it nowhere near what Josh is worth, it's not even what the top 10 kick returners in the league make,'' said Schaffer.
He said other teams told him the starting point for the Browns would probably be $2.8 million to $3.2 million.
Schaffer said Cribbs and his representatives have done everything asked of them and they're now done if the Browns don't pay up. The Browns didn't immediately respond to a voicemail message. Schaffer also shared the following email sent today to Aponte:
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"This e mail will confirm our phone conversation of this morning with regards to Josh and his situation. I initially left you a voice mail on your cell and in your office last Thursday afternoon and then again on this past Monday. I never received the courtesy of a return phone call to these messages and so I called you again this morning. I have also left Mike Holmgren now two messages, the first last Thursday as well and again this past Monday. I have also specifically asked you last week when we talked to please have Mike call me ASAP to discuss the Cribbs situation and to date we have not heard from Mike in this regard.
"As we talked today you have seen no comments from either JR or myself about this situation in the media at all. We have endeavored to try and commence the negotiations in a positive light and give the new regime and Mike the benefit of the doubt in this situation. We are trying to keep this situation positive and private. We have been through 3 years of broken promises and unfulfilled guarantees. However, we will have no choice to respond publicly if we do not hear from Mike by end of business today. Mike mentioned in his public comments that he team made Josh a “fair” offer. Well we will have no alternative given no communication from Mike but to allow the people of Cleveland to determine fair.
"1.4 million dollars per year for a player of Josh’s caliber and character is not only insulting it is unjustifiable under any objective criteria. Further given the three years of history of this matter and the incredibly strong and powerful grassroots support for Josh, we will see how this turns out. Again this is not a threat, we are given the team every chance to respond but given continued silence then we will have no choice. Thanks I am in my office or on my cell all day. Peter
"If you have any questions or wish to discuss this e mail in any further detail, please do not hesitate to call or e mail me. Please have yourself a wonderful and happy day.
"Yours Very Truly,
Peter J. Schaffer, Esq."
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/01/josh_cribbs_and_agents_insulte.html
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Can Cribbs at least wait until the new GM is in place?
For God sakes...
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Schaffer said he and Cribbs' other agent, J.R. Rickert, gave the Browns until the end of the business day today to respond to calls before going public with the details of the situation.
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"They need to treat him fairly or he'll never play for the Browns again,'' said agent Peter Schaffer. "He will demand a trade and he will walk out of there and they won't see him for the off-season -- they won't see him ever again.''
Empty threats from a position of little power.
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Schaffer said coach Eric Mangini called him midseason and told the agents that if they stopped going public, the Browns would negotiate in good faith and have a deal done by the end of the season.
Oh, you mean before he was demoted? Before the Browns brought in Holmgren?
All bets are off. Sorry to lay the truth on you, Schaffer.
Now cue all the Chicken-Littles who think this means the sky is falling.................
It's called negotiations.
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Further given the three years of history of this matter and the incredibly strong and powerful grassroots support for Josh, we will see how this turns out. Again this is not a threat, we are given the team every chance to respond but given continued silence then we will have no choice.
I think it is a threat.. he says it isn't, but it absolutely is.. he wants to turn the entire fanbase against Mike Holmgren... that's gonna be the attempt here.
Another thing that strikes me about this letter from the agent is, he's not a very good writer for a lawyer..
To tell you guys the truth, I'm not ready to believe any of this right now..
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I think Josh needs to fire his agents and hire Labonte. 
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I noticed that as well. But it all seems a little far-fetched if you take a step back. You're telling me that he shot off this (poorly written) email/ultimatum(sp?), and then forwarded the whole thing to a media outlet...? 
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From the conspiracy-theorists viewpoint, I'd love it if this was a way for the organization to give the razzberry to Cribbs' agents.  They blew it badly when they came out with this at the beginning of the year. Trying to do this again now when we've got bigger fish to fry isn't going to endear Cribbs to anyone.
This thing blew up in their faces before. It can happen again.
Fans want Cribbs to be here forever, and they should, but the fans aren't dumb. They know the agents aren't doing anything good here.
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The lawyer/agent is not a good writer - that much is clear.
Another thing that seems odd is the lawyer/agent says "we have tried for 3 years......" Didn't Cribbs sign a contract long ago, then get that contract redone 2 years ago? Am I wrong?
So they re-did his contract 2 years ago - maybe even 3 years ago........but his agent/lawyer is saying they've been trying for 3 years to get it re-done? Does he mean re done again? As in re-re-done?
Josh deserves to be paid more - no doubt. Sign him up for $3.5 million a year - IF he fires his agent.
Dumbasses are a dime a dozen, but to have any credibility, this hill jack needs to: learn how to write., figure out who to send the e-mail to, and also realize that there are things going on in this organization that take precedence. Josh will get his money. This dumbass agent shouldn't get 1 cent of it.
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imho, Mangini shouldn't have been making promises or requests beyond what his position entailed. If Cribbs walks, Mangini gets some of the blame for this.
$1.4 million is an insult. The average NFL player makes $1.7 million in annual salary. Cribbs is by far better then the average player. Yes, negotiation is a process but an insult isn't a starting point. The team got away with the current contract and can't pull the wool over the eyes of his foolish agent again.
The sky won't fall without him. It's just sickening to let a possible Hall of Famer leave over nickels and dimes.
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imho, Mangini shouldn't have been making promises or requests beyond what his position entailed. If Cribbs walks, Mangini gets some of the blame for this.
$1.4 million is an insult. The average NFL player makes $1.7 million in annual salary. Cribbs is by far better then the average player. Yes, negotiation is a process but an insult isn't a starting point. The team got away with the current contract and can't pull the wool over the eyes of his foolish agent again.
The sky won't fall without him. It's just sickening to let a possible Hall of Famer leave over nickels and dimes.
And at this level where they throw money around like Marines do grenades, it's not a big deal. He can't play anywhere else, right ?
It wasn't meant to be an insult; it's a starting point. It's a negotiation.
Pay the guy.
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Leave? He's under contract for three more seasons.
Setting that aside, how do we know what his agents asked for? Maybe the Browns were insulted so they returned the favor.
Another question is if Mangini was still in power when they were talking. Had Kok been fired yet? At that point, Mangini was running the organization. Now he isn't. Those promises, just as any promises made before he came to power, are null-and-void.
This is the tails side of the coin.
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This whole story sounds fishy to me. Not sure I believe it.
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Leave? He's under contract for three more seasons.
Setting that aside, how do we know what his agents asked for? Maybe the Browns were insulted so they returned the favor.
Another question is if Mangini was still in power when they were talking. Had Kok been fired yet? At that point, Mangini was running the organization. Now he isn't. Those promises, just as any promises made before he came to power, are null-and-void.
This is the tails side of the coin.
Well, regardless if Cribbs is here or not next year, I sure hope you are. I laugh out loud every time I read that signature. Yours and the "We got Pontbriand" sig.
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IMO the 1.4 million is a starting point. Negotiations done in the press are foolish. Holmgren has not even got an office yet and this dimwit is making threats. Josh can't walk, he's under contract. He could sit out and not show up for camp, but it would do no good in the long run. Josh needs to hire a better agent first, and then maybe he would have some ground to work on.
Cribbs is a great player, and one I doubt highly they will let get away, but this agent is a boob. He could at least wit until the GM is in place and then meet with him and Holmgren and work on the deal.
Just wondering, if next year is an uncapped year, couldn't he get a huge signing bonus, and a decent salary without hurting the team financially? Like say about 2 million a year, and a 6 million signing bonus? This way when the cap returns his contract would be reasonable and he would get a nice chunk now for services rendered.
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If Holmgren jumps in and gives the farm to Cribbs right off the bat he'll have a line outside his office a mile long of agents wanting renegotiated contracts.
We can probably get the Raiders 8th pick for him although we may have to toss in the number one beer vendor to sweeten the pot for Al Davis.
Holmgrens tone on this subject during the presser seemed like although he liked Cribbs he wasn't about to overpay him. At least I got that from him.
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Whether it's with my sig or simply at my expense, if I can keep you guys and girls laughing or venting I'm doing my job  (And it ain't gonna cost $3 million per to keep me, either.)
The Pontbriand is Purp's. I'm trying to dust off some memories here, but I think that little guy in his sig was from Crank Yankers...............
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"We're done,'' said Schaffer. "There's no middle ground anymore. We've upheld our end of the bargain.''
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"If you have any questions or wish to discuss this e mail in any further detail, please do not hesitate to call or e mail me. Please have yourself a wonderful and happy day.
So are you done or not done?
I have a hard time believing Mike is going to lowball such a high value player BEFORE all the while looking to hire a GM to do what it is this agent is asking them to do . . .
Cue the music . . . Mr. Peter J. Schaffer, Esq. is about to speak! 
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It wasn't meant to be an insult; it's a starting point. It's a negotiation.
I would call it an insult, and I would feel the same if I were Josh. Only Cleveland could screw this up.
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I'm guessing they want $6M. Browns are willing to pay around $3M. The only way to get there is start at an "insulting" $1.4M.
The horror!
Oh, and they want to play this in the press because they know the fans are mushy and gushy and scared of losing him.
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wow, Cribbs fire your agent... ive seen better verbage in a seventh grade english class..
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If I read that right, he contacted Dawn Aponte and Mike Holmgren last Thursday afternoon - that'd be New Years eve afternoon. I wouldn't have been in either. And today is just Wednesday, who knows if Aponte is on vacation still or took an extra day or two off? Have some patience.
Also, the note says 1.4 million per year. I assume that is salary and not including signing bonus. If they gave him $10m signing bonus, as an example, that's a pretty fair package to me.
I don't know how any club could respect this guy (meaning Schaffer).
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wow, Cribbs fire your agent... ive seen better verbage in a seventh grade english class..
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"They need to treat him fairly or he'll never play for the Browns again,'' said agent Peter Schaffer. "He will demand a trade and he will walk out of there and they won't see him for the off-season -- they won't see him ever again.''
The only thing he left out is "Oh yeah, and my dad can beat up yours"!
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can you spell:
"shakedown?"
This shlump seems like a real amateur. Tactics such as going public and "all or nuttin' " should always be used as a last resort. Instead, dude shot his entire wad in one up-front salvo.
Wow. Cribbs is represented by a premature ejaculator. What a pity.
It's obvious that he's trying to rally the fanbase to back Josh's cause. What he forgets is this: the fanbase was already on Josh's side. Dumping this steaming pile at this particular time makes him (and Josh somewhat, by extention) look cheap, short-sighted and opportunistic. It could easily backfire on them both.
The Big Show hasn't even spent 3 nights in Berea, and he's supposed to drop everything to negotiate with an individual player? Without taking the time to perform the requisite due diligence required of an NFL executive? While he's still in the first stages of staffing a FO? Without time to consult with cap managers, look at ALL the gamefilm (not just kickoff highlights), or review the team's budget? Ummm... yeah- riiiight.
Gimme a break. I may be thick at times, but even I am sharp enough to see what this really is. If it's obvious to me, imagine how bush league it must look to Holmgren.
This guy had better refresh himself on the finer points of negotiation, and settle in for the long haul. Deals don't get done with one party's total acquiescence at Step One. Never.
I wonder how much fun it is for this dude's friends to play poker with him?
What bothers me is that Cribbs' name could be sullied by this dude's antics, even if he's trying to be a righteous player. If word gets out that he's being represented by an anal orifice, negotiations with any other team will be difficult as well. It's a tight little fraterniity, the NFL.
IMHO, 1.4M is definitely low, but I can't believe that our FO pimped it as a "take it or leave it" deal. If this agent is going to pull out the stops with tactics like this, his client will suffer the PR consequences every bit as much as the team he's negotiating with. Nothing good can come of this strategem.
I hope this gets resolved reasonably. I want to see PTM here for his entire career, but not at the expense of the team being held up by a single greedy little "moneyman" who wants his 10%.
Hope you stay with us, Josh. If not, thanks for the thrills, and good luck wherever you land. Noone's bigger than the team.
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"I know you haven't hired the guy who makes the contracts yet, but my player wants a new one NOW!!1!!!1!!" Josh has always come across as respectful and level-headed regarding his contract issues. If his agent acted that way, he'd be making several million more in a few weeks. 
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I think the problem here is that Cribbs and his agent need to give the Browns a little more time. Too much going on in Berea right now. Let Holmgren settle in, let the new GM report, let the HC decision be made, and then send your request through.
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j/c First off, I believe Cribbs deserves a big raise...a contract something like 5 years, $20 million with $8-10 million guaranteed. That's what he's worth give or take a million. But If Josh and his agents think that he's going to get the fans on his side by threatening to "never play for the Browns again," they are all lunatics in serious need of an asylum. Cribbs was on the NFL Network following the KC game and made a big point out of saying that he couldn't see himself making a public stink out of his contract difficulties while so many of the fanbase, especially those living in Cleveland, were suffering financially. He had the NFL postgame lapdogs eating it up. They applauded him...even the troublemaker in chief, Deion Sanders. I wonder if Josh would be willing to go back on the Network now and tell them "they won't see me ever again." Nice way to empathize with the fans, Josh. Tell 'em to go eat cake. As long as you get yours. I figure that once I retire, I'll have worked for some 45 years. I calculate that I might just hit the 1.4 million dollar mark you find so disgusting when I combine all my income for that whole span. So don't bother to tell me that you will never play for my beloved Cleveland Browns again because you've been insulted. Better yet, just go home and make NOTHING. See how that feels. Or go out and get a real job. You want insulting...there are stories you don't even want to hear about how so many of us have been used and abused and truly insulted in the workplace. I haven't had a raise in 3 years and I'm really good at what I do. Today, I'm just glad to have a job. You may be a great football player. As I said, you deserve the money. But if you want to talk about insulting, Josh. Just look in the mirror and think how you're sounding to your fans. 
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According to reports he is not looking for Devin Hester money, he wants around $2.5 with incentives built in according to reports. I think that is a very fair deal for someone who plays 80% of the game. Sorry Holmgren you have to pay the man, hes a hometown fan favorite and EVERYTHING this organization can ask/hope for in a player. I dont get this logic.
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I can't possibly condone what Cribbs' agent has done. It was certainly a stupid mistake to talk like that at any point in negotiations let alone so early into it. On the other hand I look Cribbs situation... at the end of the '08 season Savage or Lerner, or both, promised Cribbs a redo on his low contract because he obviously outperformed it quickly. Then Lerner denies it while leaving it up to the new coach to deal with it. Then, the new coach promises the same thing, even early on, but wants to evaluate Cribbs himself first. So, Cribbs plays the good soldier and goes team-first all the way. Near the end of the year Mangini wholeheartedly promises Cribbs that new deal. Then a new team President is hired and it's out of Mangini's hands and Cribbs is to wait while the new guy decides what to do with it. So far that's three different people who have been in charge and all of them promising Cribbs a new deal while so far nothing is done as it keeps getting passed on to the next guy who is willing to take his time deciding the matter. From Cribbs perspective it's got to be getting frustrating. He proved himself in '07. Got a promise in '08. Got another promise in '09 and heading into '10 he gets yet another promise. In '09 he became historical in his performance while practically single-handedly winning two of those games in the much ballyhooed 4 game winning streak including his performance in beating the Steelers. Cribbs has done more than anyone could ask of him including being the perfect team player and all he's gotten in return has been promises that never come to fruition. I can fully understand his frustration. What I can't understand is his agent's amateur negotiating tactics. It seems Cribbs is getting screwed from both sides. 
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We are trying to keep this situation positive and private
well then, here's an idea- shut your trap.
Cribbs needs to fire these boneheads now. What an amateur move taking emails public.
So he's going to leave- Josh- where are you going to go? You are under contract for 3 more years. Cribbs is not Hester, and even Hester isn't worth Hester money.
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j/c
Peter Shaffer is also JT's agent. He wasn't so bad in those negotiations.
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its negotiations....cribbs agent probably came in high....the browns come in low.....in the end, everyone meets in the middle
if the browns start with the middle, they will have to go higher...
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This is just silly. Saw the writing on the wall in MH's presser yesterday when specifically asked about Cribbs. Couldn't believe his response.
Cribbs is a special player. I'm sure he's not expecting the moon and will settle on something reasonable. Why this is so hard is not making any sense to me.
Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a Browns fan.
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Cribbs is 10 times the player that Hester is, and 32 out of 32 teams would take Cribbs if they had to decide between the two. It doesn't bear much relevance, though, since Hester's contract is one of the most ridiculous in NFL history.
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NRTU First off I will say that Browns fans are notorious for verbal assaults on agents. Guess what these agents are employed by the players and the players are the boss. If an agent does not do what the boss wants then they are fired, and yes it happens from time to time. Now on to Josh, I completely understand why he is at this point. How many times has he been promised things that do not happen. It might be because the management has changed after these promises so may times.  But when he hears guys like Deion Sanders say " pay the man" how would you feel! Yes I agree the timing is bad but many of us humans believe there will be a tomorrow and some of us say live for today. And in the business of NFL players the live for today idea is a reality!
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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Nicely put. 
Crowded elevators smell different to short people...
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The Browns own him for three more years. Cribbs only option is to sit if he doesn't like what he's being offered. No one twisted his arm to sign the contract he has now. It's what those same agents of his negotiated. If he has a complaint, he should focus it at them for getting him into this mess.
Now I'm sure the club is willing to go higher but cribbs side needs to just shut up and get it out of the media. They are only hurting themselves and I for one am already sick of this saga. Holmgren just took over, give the man a couple of weeks to get things sorted out before you go whining with your hand out.
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First off, I believe Cribbs deserves a big raise...a contract something like 5 years, $20 million with $8-10 million guaranteed. That's what he's worth give or take a million. But If Josh and his agents think that he's going to get the fans on his side by threatening to "never play for the Browns again," they are all lunatics in serious need of an asylum.
Cribbs was on the NFL Network following the KC game and made a big point out of saying that he couldn't see himself making a public stink out of his contract difficulties while so many of the fanbase, especially those living in Cleveland, were suffering financially. He had the NFL postgame lapdogs eating it up. They applauded him...even the troublemaker in chief, Deion Sanders. I wonder if Josh would be willing to go back on the Network now and tell them "they won't see me ever again." Nice way to empathize with the fans, Josh. Tell 'em to go eat cake. As long as you get yours.
I figure that once I retire, I'll have worked for some 45 years. I calculate that I might just hit the 1.4 million dollar mark you find so disgusting when I combine all my income for that whole span. So don't bother to tell me that you will never play for my beloved Cleveland Browns again because you've been insulted. Better yet, just go home and make NOTHING. See how that feels. Or go out and get a real job. You want insulting...there are stories you don't even want to hear about how so many of us have been used and abused and truly insulted in the workplace. I haven't had a raise in 3 years and I'm really good at what I do. Today, I'm just glad to have a job.
You may be a great football player. As I said, you deserve the money. But if you want to talk about insulting, Josh. Just look in the mirror and think how you're sounding to your fans.
I couldn't disagree with this more.
What everybody else makes is irrelevant. You say you haven't had a raise in 3 years, but I bet your salary or wage is in line with your peers, and they haven't had a raise in 3 years either. If you say that's not the case, then I'd blame you for not leaving that company sooner.
This is about fairness. I can't stand the fans that are crapping on Cribbs right now simply because he wants to be paid what he's worth. And comparing ourselves to professional athletes is just stupid.
This guy has been made a couple of promises that have included a little give and take. Put on a good face, come to work, work your ass off, be one of our best players, and we will reward you. He has done what he was asked to do. Are you telling me that if you had a manager that made you a promise contingent upon you doing something and you do it only to find out that manager is being replaced and that promise isn't a concern of the new manager that you wouldn't be upset? You wouldn't seek employment elsewhere? Cribbs can't seek employment elsewhere. It's the only thing he can do to fight back.
This is sickening to me.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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dang.. they low balled him...
Cribbs has done everything asked of him, and the Browns KEEP trying him... IDIOTS!!
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No one twisted his arm to sign the contract he has now. It's what those same agents of his negotiated. If he has a complaint, he should focus it at them for getting him into this mess.
Actually he fired the agent that negotiated his current deal for him. That deal has him making less than what any veteran free agent off the street would make on a veteran minimum contract.
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Honestly, if I were Cribbs and that were the first offer ... I would vow to never play another down for the Browns...wouldn't even wait for a second offer. He shouldn't have to play any games here. This has gone way past the stage of these negotiating games ... way past. This is ridiculous. He might take a hit initially, but eventually the team will see him as an asset that isn't playing and trade him to the highest bidder, and he'll get his money.
I would never play another down for the Browns. I hope he doesn't for his sake. I hope he does for the fans' sake.
What a cluster. This team is so incompetent. Can't even manage to make it's best employees happy. What a freaking dysfunctional organization.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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