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http://www.drafttek.com/round12010.asp

O.k,we're going to keep pounding draft stuff until we get a draft forum up all year long..
Now you wanna be GM's go into the link ...look at the 5 round mock, and look the selections made for the Browns..now look at any player chosen below their pick if you don't like the current selection and change the pick then post it here..
You cannot choose a player taken above the Browns picks..but any player chosen below..so U can take a player a round earlier if you want..I know some of you will be off the hook but whateva..now have at it..

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7) Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
40) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
69) Anthony Dixon, RB, Mississippi State
84) Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
102) Myron Lewis, CB/S, Vanderbilt
130) Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
136) Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

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Suprised they haave Pouncey going so low. I thought he was fairly touted.

Edit: I got confused with his brother, who is much higher in the mock.

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7) Taylor Mays FS
40) Ciron Black OG
69) Roddrick Muckelroy OLB34
84) Gabe Carimi OT
102) Daryl Washington ILB


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Just looked at it and I'll play the game later when I have a minute but if 4 of our first 5 picks are offensive skill position players like this mock says, I'll just go ahead and turn in my Browns gear..


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Oh come on now, a bit dramatic dont you think? dwyer in the second rd is a steal!


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I can't view the page at work... can someone post what they have to the browns? Thanks!

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7) Clausen QB ND
40) Jinathan Dwyer RB GT
69) Arrelious Benn WR IL
84) Jermain Cunningham OLB34 FL
102) Tony Moeaki TE IA
130) Rodney Hudson OG FLAST
135) Mike Neal DE34 PUR
148) Dereck Sherrod OT Miss ST


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Benn is one of those guys that should have been a monster in college. I'm not sure if its his offense or his qb play that is to blame for lack of production. His "potential" though is through the roof and has every tool to be a force in the NFL.


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Oh come on now, a bit dramatic dont you think? dwyer in the second rd is a steal!



Perhaps a bit.. and I didn't say I didn't want ANY offensive skill players, I said I didn't want 4 of our first 5 picks to be offensive skill position players... unless of course we have one hell of a free agency period for the OL and the defense.


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The great thing about this site, is that you can do a simulation yourself - change up needs, and set up grabs or lockouts...then do a full draft based on that automagically. The only negative is that you cannot adjust the player rankings. Some guys are not where they belong (for example Jason Pierre-Paul is ranked 143 on their board, I've seen his as high as 20s elsewhere)

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my picks

7) LB Rolando McClain, Alabama
40) WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame
69) S Nate Allen, South Florida
84) OT Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
102) TE Aaron Hernandez, Florida
130) OG Mike Pouncey, Florida
135) RB Charles Scott, LSU
148) DT Kade Weston, Georgia


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7) Clausen QB ND
40) Jinathan Dwyer RB GT
69) Arrelious Benn WR IL
84) Jermain Cunningham OLB34 FL
102) Tony Moeaki TE IA
130) Rodney Hudson OG FLAST
135) Mike Neal DE34 PUR
148) Dereck Sherrod OT Miss ST




I like the players here except for Moeaki. He's not very good. I'd rather re-sign Harrison and work Davis and Jennings in than use a draft pick on a RB, too.

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If we were to land those first three picks.........



Absolutely AWESOME!!!!!!


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7) Clausen QB ND
40) Jinathan Dwyer RB GT
69) Arrelious Benn WR IL
84) Jermain Cunningham OLB34 FL
102) Tony Moeaki TE IA
130) Rodney Hudson OG FLAST
135) Mike Neal DE34 PUR
148) Dereck Sherrod OT Miss ST




Although I became more comfortable with the idea of harrison as our starting back going into next year, the idea of going potential franchise QB and franchise RB in rounds one and two seriously makes me grin.

With how this draft pans out, I think Clausen would be a legitimate BPA pick at 7. My other potential choice would be Dez Bryant.

The Benn pick in the third I'm torn on. The guy seems to be able to get open so well but looks to be a body catcher.

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7) Taylor Mays S USC
40) Eric Norwood ILB South Carolina
69) Mike Johnson OG Alabama
84) Allen Bailey DE Miami
102) Sam Young OT Notre Dame
130) Jeremy Beal DE/OLB Oklahoma
135) Christian Ponder QB FSU
148) Ben Tate RB Auburn

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7. Dez Bryant, WR- Best WR in the draft and legitimate talent. MoMass, although having potential, is a poor excuse for a #1. Bryant accelerates, catches with his hands and makes the tough catch.

40. Johnathon Dwyer, RB- Sorry, I gotta stick with this one as a BPA type pick. I just have loved what I've seen of this guy...wiggle, toughness, size, speed. His running experience in triple option is a bit of a concern but at 230 he should be able to run between the tackles.

69. Nate Allen, FS- Balanced of need and quality of player at the pick. Cerebral player, defensive leader. Don;t think he'll be a world beater but will provide that kind of field general vision in the d backfield

84- Gabe Carimi, OT- Honestly, never seen him play but folks seem to be high on him. Left tackle in college but apparently a better run blocker than pass, hence pro right tackle.

102- Jordan Shipley, WR- Once again, a BPA type. Runs great routes, superb hands. Too good of a value to pass up here.

130- Sean Canfield, QB- Why not? Quick release, good accuracy. I can;t say I'm a huge fan but if we need a new guy to develop, we have to take a shot at some point.

135- Jason Pierre Paul, DE/OLB- Workout warrior. Needs extensive polish but you can't teach measureables.

148- Alterraun Verner, CB- Would've liked Haden in the first and no other CBs seemed slotted right in this game. Has good ball awareness and overall coverage ability.

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I'm kind of proud of what Savage did with only having two picks in the draft two years ago. I think they got value and it is sad we won't get to see those two players how they would pan out going forward.
I think they did better than usual for two 4th rounders because they only had two picks to focus on and could do more research into who may be there.

It is because of this that I think 11 picks are too many for the team not to have some major headscratchers, like Pharms, 5th rd, who went to jail, if memory serves me right, and Don Carey last year, (Canada's Chris Berman).

So I think they should assign 3 war rooms, into the one war room and compete to see who can improve the team the most. So I took a quick look, and will assume the Browns have these round picks.
1, 2, 3a, 3b, 4, 5a, 5b, 5c, 6a, 6b, and 7

If you give each man only 4 picks to focus on 3 for the other, then they will be able to be more focused, but you must have constant communication so that the various positions aren't overstocked, or overlooked. ( don't allow 3 centers or 3 QB's in one draft)

Anyway I"m thinking something like this. group 1 (picks are by round)
1, 4, 6a, and 7

group 2, give them, 2, 3a, 3b, and 6b

group C, I'd give them picks 5a, 5b, and 5c

And I"d have them compete to see who can get the most value (pound for pound of course) for the picks they have.

I'm assuming Holmgrens going to have final say, and today Mangini is still around I think, and a new gm is possible.

So I'd say group 1, Holmgren's focus with scouts

Group 2 the new Gm, and Mangini's focus, with final approval from either the new GM or Holmgren.

Group 3 I'd give that to be the focus of Rob Ryan our Def coordinator with the stipulation they can't , shouldn't all be defensive players unless he can convince the other groups why.

This could be a 3 fold attack at each group trying to improve the whole team, off def, and special teams (yeah right) but no group having too much to look at so that they would overlook something.

Bottom line you can only hope for about 2-3 starters and 3-4 prospects, and let them compete for roles in training camp.

But this would almost ensure more value from rounds 3 through 7 , and would diminish the temptation to part with this years picks out of laziness.


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102- Jordan Shipley, WR- Once again, a BPA type. Runs great routes, superb hands. Too good of a value to pass up here.



Especially if Cribbs' agents keep on keepin' on..............
But you better move him up. He'll be gone by 102.


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I would agree but in this mock, he's available at 102. A no brainer for a 4th round pick.

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I'm kind of proud of what Savage did with only having two picks in the draft two years ago. I think they got value and it is sad we won't get to see those two players how they would pan out going forward.
I think they did better than usual for two 4th rounders because they only had two picks to focus on and could do more research into who may be there.




Ummmm.... was the the draft we got Beau Bell and Martin Rucker? If so, given that Bell never played a down and Rucker got released, usual is apparently giving guys BACK to the draft.

HORRIBLE year. Only decent thing we got out of it was Rubin.

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Clutch - I haven't look at the link yet but wanted to say I love the Mike Johnson pick. He will be a starter year 1 and can play either OG or RT.


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My two favorites out of who I picked are Ponder and Beal.

I think Ponder is highly under rated and Beal is going to be an animal.

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This mock is awful, but I'll play.

7: Rolando McClain LB Alabama
40: Golden Tate WR Notre Dame
69: Nate Allen S USF
84: Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin
102: Aaron Hernandez TE Florida (at least a 2nd rounder)
135: Jason Pierre-Paul DE/OLB USF (almost certainly a top 15 pick, maybe top 10)
148: Thaddeous Gibson DE/OLB Ohio State (hey, he wasn't in the mock)

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My two favorites out of who I picked are Ponder and Beal.

I think Ponder is highly under rated and Beal is going to be an animal.




Agreed 100%

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This mock is awful, but I'll play.
135: Jason Pierre-Paul DE/OLB USF (almost certainly a top 15 pick, maybe top 10)





You and Scott can ride that prediction bandwagon all by yourselves.

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135: Jason Pierre-Paul DE/OLB USF (almost certainly a top 15 pick, maybe top 10)




He's got a little heat now as a riser and his combine workout will certainly elevate him but there's no way he goes top half of the first, if in the first at all.. I think there's too many question marks around him and he's still too raw to justify a first round pick.

Actually, I amend that,,,,the Raiders may take him because...well...they're the raiders.

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I'm willing to do another sig bet that he goes in the top half.

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I'll take that bet but only after the Combine. If he puts up monster numbers, it may be enough and he's capable of it.

I'll take the bet right now that he doesn't make an impact.

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No way I make that bet. I think he's gonna be this year's Aaron Maybin/Vernon Gholston.

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No way I make that bet. I think he's gonna be this year's Aaron Maybin/Vernon Gholston.




Get drafted high and then suck once they enter the league?

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Yes. And a late draft riser.

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This mock is awful,




Agreed, but fun to look at and play around with esp it being this early in the offseason. But yeah, many of those selections are a pipe dream. Although I am suprised how often Shipley is being picked by us on these boards...Sorry I dont want anything to do with a 6th yr college player ever. Even more so once I heard his terriible music he was trying to promote on ESPN gameday...


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My two favorites out of who I picked are Ponder and Beal.

I think Ponder is highly under rated and Beal is going to be an animal.





I'm not familiar with these guys yet. I will certainly look into them before the draft


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Ponder had a sort of up and down year last year but this year up until he got injured he was lighting it up. I think he only threw like 1 interception up until he got hurt and had a 70% completion percentage, not sure how many yards and what not.

I've read a few things about him that said he isn't sure if he's gonna come out or not because his injury probably dropped him a few rounds. Plus if he comes back his senior year and continues to play well then he will almost surely be a first round draft pick, probably one of the first qb's taken.

Beal has been a guy that has impressed ever since he stepped onto the field his freshman year and has been doing it ever since (what the draft gurus say). He finished the year with 13 sacks 20 tfl and 54 sacks.

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Both sound good. I understand Ponder failing b/c of the injury. But why will Beal last until 130? Those are some pretty awesome stats in the big 12.


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(1) McClain (I haven't been impressed thus far, but giving him one more chance tonight....then Trent Williams
(2) Mardy Gilyard (WR)
(3a) Chad Jones (S)
(3b) Gabe Carimi (OT)
(4) Aaron Hernnandez (TE)
(5a) Jason Pierre-Paul (OLB)
(5b) Montario Hardesty (RB)
(5c) Alterraun Verner (CB)


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I don't expect him to fall that far, I was just going with the rules that the person that started this thread suggested, and draft tek mock had him that far.

I expect him to shoot up draft boards after the combine probably landing somewhere around early 3rd to mid 2nd depending on what he showcases. Hopefully only third. I pimped Larry English last year around this time and got my hopes up we would be able to land him possibly in the second and he ended up going in the first to the Chargers. He was a third round prospect around this time last year. Really dissapointed me.

Oh and His stats this year were 13 sacks 20 tfl and 54 tackles. Noticed I accidently put sacks after 54.

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McClain is not a top 7 pick IMO.. maybe around 15..


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Oh and His stats this year were 13 sacks 20 tfl and 54 tackles. Noticed I accidently put sacks after 54.




Well that is a little less impressive Actually I noticed that and figured it out but thanks.


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