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Report: Carroll close to five-year, $35m deal Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 8, 2010 8:15 PM ET Maybe Leslie Frazier shouldn't go through with that interview. Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times reports that Pete Carroll and the Seahawks are "close to a deal" that would pay Carroll $35 million over the next five seasons to be Seattle's coach and team president. Carroll has often attributed his mediocre record in New England to his lack of control over personnel. That wouldn't be a problem in Seattle, where the president tag indicates Carroll would run just about everything. USC appears to be in the dark about the Carroll stories. "In the past, [Carroll] hasn't commented on such report," USC sports information Tim Tessalone said. "He was not expected in today. I've put a message out to him, but haven't heard back yet." With the Seahawks still needing to interview Frazier to comply with the Rooney Rule, we wouldn't expect to hear anything official from Carroll or the Seahawks soon. UPDATE: Scott Wolf of the L.A. Daily News says Carroll has agreed to a five-year deal. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/08/report-carroll-close-to-five-year-35m-deal/
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http://www.dailynews.com/usc/ci_14151185 Pete Carroll did not officially inform USC he was leaving as of Friday afternoon but sources within the university said he accepted a job with the Seattle Seahawks and only needed to agree to final contract details. USC sources said Carroll agreed to a five-year deal with the Seahawks with the only question how much power he would have in the organization. The Seahawks lack a coach and general manager and Carroll's often expressed a hope to do both when he returned to the NFL. Athletic director Mike Garrett is expected to target Oregon State coach Mike Riley as his No. 1 choice. The other top candidates are former USC players: Jacksonville Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio and Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher. Another possible candidate, according to sources, is Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh.
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College coach with total control. what could go wrong?
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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I was a bit surprised . . . till I saw the dollar amount . . .
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Is this about wanting an NFL gig......or getting out of USC before the NCAA slams that program for all the rule violations (Bush house, McKnight car, etc..)?
USC put itself on probation this week but only it's basketball program. Like, the NCAA will let the football program go since they over penalized their own basketball program to balance the cheating. Pffft...Carroll just another Calapari (build a program through cheating and then move on when you get caught)?
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I was thinking the same thing... 35 mill.. hes good for the rest of his life.. he doesn't need to coach and work hard every year in south cal and be their coach for another 30 years..
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Wonder if this guarantees Taylor Mays to Seattle?
Carrol is one of Mays biggest supporters....and Seattle is home to him.
Might monkey wrench up some draft orders.
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Interesting question. At 6 I'm not sure, but if he's there at 14, I'd say yes, it guarantees Mays is a Seahawk.
I think when he looks at this team, he's going to see a few very obvious things...in no particular order:
1) If Walter Jones is unable to come back, this team has no Left Tackle. If he is able to come back, the team can't be sure they have a Left Tackle. LT is a priority.
2) Matt Hasselbeck has been through a lot of injuries the last 2 years, his production is down the last 2 years, and he's 34. Wallace is a more than serviceable backup, but not a long term starter. QB is high on the list, if not a priority.
3) Julius Jones was a waste of money. Justin Forsett is a great change of pace back. Workhorse RB is a priority.
4) The team needs a lot of help with the pass rush. (it'll be interesting to see how Lawrence Jackson performs for his old coach - he didn't do much under Holmgren or Mora)
5) When Trufant got back from injury, he wasn't the old Marcus Trufant. Josh Wilson has shown hes serviceable. Kelly Jennings has been a bust, and is no better than a nickle back, and Ken Lucas is not the Ken Lucas of old. CB is a definite need.
In my opinion, Grant (though he is 32) and Babs are good enough that it doesn't warrant taking Mays at #6. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Carroll takes Mays at #6, Charles Brown at #14, and Everson Griffen at #39 if each of them are available. I could see them taking Stanley Havili late too.
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With the man crush Carroll has on the highly overrated Matt Barkley, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to draft him this year even though he's only a freshman.
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I assume you were being sarcastic considering Barkley is a true freshman, and the college football rule is that you have to be in school for at least 3 years before you can go pro.
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Pretty obvious his statement was dripping with sarcasm. No need to state the obvious
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Wow I can't believe they actually put that much faith in a college coach. A college coach who is highly over-rated at that. Only thin he has going for him is all the skiled players he is able to get. And he still manages to lose to a no name just about every year.
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I was thinking the same thing... 35 mill.. hes good for the rest of his life.. he doesn't need to coach and work hard every year in south cal and be their coach for another 30 years
Man I need to be a coach... Where do I start?
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Wow, that's a lot of faith to put into a guy that has had only moderate success in the Pros.. no doubt, top shelf college coach,, but I dunno that this is a good move.. thank goodness I don't care what happens with the Seahawks.. 
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Note to Goodell: Your organization looks like complete fools allowing this Rooney Rule sham to occur. Report: Carroll agrees to coach Seahawks Posted by Michael David Smith on January 9, 2010 8:53 AM ET Pete Carroll leaving USC to coach the Seattle Seahawks appears to be a done deal. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Carroll has agreed on a deal to take the job. According to Schefter, the only hangup is that the Seahawks can't make the hiring official until they comply with the Rooney Rule by interviewing a minority candidate. Of course, at this point, if the Seahawks do interview a minority candidate solely to comply with the Rooney Rule, they would be making a complete mockery of the Rooney Rule. Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier has reportedly decided to sit for an interview after being assured that Carroll doesn't have the job yet. Perhaps after reading Schefter's report, Frazier will change his mind. Link
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Frazier is a fool for interviewing. I thought espn reported yesterday that he turned down the interview and now it is back on. Maybe Seattle offered to pay him to come interview?? Anyways, this rule is just kind of stupid anyways- in the end the team will hire the guy that they want, irreguardless of having to jump thru another hoop along the way. Just look at the way things have played out this year. Shannahan and the skins, Holmgren and the browns. Frazier will get a headcoaching position soon, it will not be because he is a minority candidate, it will be because he deserves it for the work he has done with the Vikes.
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Didn't someone on this board claim Paul Allen to be a genius?
This is one of the stupidest moves an owner could make after seeing numerous failures time after time from college coaches in the NFL, especially the ones with total control.
Randy Lerner looks like a genius now.
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And the rooney rule is more foolish. If a owner or a business likes a guy....thats who they gonna get. When you do that (and you should be able too) it makes a mockery of a rule that was no more than a good jesture at the least but does put names of minorities out there and that is all the rule was EVER meant to be.
If anyone thinks more of the rule than that....is foolish as well.
We are in a different era now days and i feel qualified people will land positions no matter their race. Forcing a hand only causes more problems.
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Pffft...Carroll just another Calapari (build a program through cheating and then move on when you get caught)?
Couldn't disagree with you more.
Carroll has been at USC for what, a decade? Maybe more - and he's had the usual big time program problems. In that time he's dealt with what, about 100 kids per season?
Calipari deals with about 15 kids a season and has been at the helm of two universities who have had to deal with major violations after his departure becuase of his actions.
It always comes back to donors and boosters - but a football coach in charge of 100 plus kids a year is no comparison IMO to a basketball coach - who's been guilty reapeatedly - with 15 or so kids a season under his watch.
The you know what may hit the fan in Southern California before long, but Pete Carroll is no John Calipari.
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Good read: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/322718-nfls-rooney-rule-is-an-embarrassment-to-black-coachesQuote:
NFL's “Rooney Rule” is an Embarrassment to Black Coaches
byRobert Denton
Written on January 09, 2010
In what was clearly a good idea, the Rooney Rule, as all affirmative action policies eventually become, has evolved into nothing more than a sideshow of politically correct nonsense.
Established in 2003, the NFL’s affirmative action policy is designed to give minority coaches opportunities to gain employment in head coaching or upper level administrative positions in NFL organizations.
What it has become, however, is a distraction used to placate the league office and its advertisers, whose livelihood depends exorbitantly on public opinion.
In October, Daniel Snyder hired Sherm Lewis to be the “play caller” for the Washington Redskins, but by all accounts his primary job was to satisfy the NFL’s version of affirmative action before the meddling owner hired the man he wanted all along, Mike Shanahan.
Now, in what can only be described as window dressing, the Seattle Seahawks talked Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier into an interview for their vacant head coaching job before they ultimately hire who they wanted all along, Pete Carroll.
I, for one, can simply not understand why black coaches, or any coach for that matter, would subject themselves to nothing more than a courtesy call to satisfy the glaring eye of the media and the NFL front office.
Frazier, who has led the Vikings to the league’s second ranked rushing defense (10th overall), is one of the hottest young coaches in the NFL; he will get his opportunity. However, he and the Seattle Seahawks should be embarrassed about making him go through a “fake” interview to comply with a ridiculous rule.
My question is...who does it serve? Doesn’t this “rule” do nothing more than take away the accomplishments of black coaches? Doesn’t it make it appear as though they are being interviewed due to compliance by the NFL, and not due to the sacrifices they’ve made along the way that put them into positions to be hired, in the first place?
This has been the million dollar question regarding affirmative action policies since the debate regarding quotas and reverse discrimination first began in the 1990’s. I won’t turn this into a largely political discussion; arguments on both sides have merit. What I will do, however, is call the NFL out on its blatant disregard for what is truly fair.
It is an embarrassment to all the good young black coaches to be paraded through organizations from one coast to the next for the sheer satisfaction of a “rule.”
Hiring at all levels and within all organizations is largely done through networks that have been established over a long period of time. Is that right? I doubt it, but that’s just the way it is. Asking a black coach to come in for an interview and expecting that long standing tradition to change is ridiculous.
Pretending that the league’s owners don’t already know who they want to hire is nothing more than an insult to the intelligence of the people the NFL is trying to appease. It’s like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic; it serves no purpose.
It does, however, stand to embarrass the very people the NFL is trying to help. I ask… what does Leslie Frazier stand to gain from this interview with the Seahawks?
I’m quite sure that his reputation has provided him the opportunity to compete for the job, but just as the Redskins had their eye on Shanahan, the Seahawks have their eye on Carroll. Are we to expect Frazier to change the owner, Paul Allen’s mind? The answer is no.
The advantage of political correctness is that it makes us, as a society, pay attention to the harmful inequalities that minorities have suffered through throughout our nation’s history.
The disadvantage is, as the parade of Leslie Frazier through the offices of the Seattle Seahawk’s organization shows, it belittles the accomplishments of the people it is designed to raise up.
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Wow, that's a lot of faith to put into a guy that has had only moderate success in the Pros.
Agreed, granted Caroll took the Pats to the playoffs twice, he hasn't done anything that should net him coach/gm duties. - When they gave Holmgren that sort of power, he had completely turned Green Bay around, had won one superbowl and came close to winning another.
I don't see this working out for Seattle.
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If I were a qualified minority candidate for a HC or GM position in the NFL, I would charge teams $50K to "interview" me.
Yeah - throw in airfare for me, my wife and family of course. And a 1 week stay at the nicest resort close by - then I'd consider it. Unless the team was serious, of course. Then I'd treat it as I would any job interview. But wanting me to come to interview after reports abound that you've agreed with another coach on the job already?
Make it $200,000.
The rooney rule was a feel good move when it was enacted.
Ever hear of the law of unintended consequences? We see it almost weekly in gov't.......and this is yet another example of it in the "private" sector. Make a rule that makes you warm and fuzzy, then deal with the reality of it, which makes you look dumb (the nfl, the rooney rule - not frazier)
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My feelings on the rule has always been that it would turn into the very beast it has become. You know who you want...you have a rule to satisfy.....you hire who you want everytime!!!!! There is no way for owners to avoid what it is always been or turned into.  Now it has officially become the HUGE elephant in the room. 
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Maybe even more,, and they have to pay it unless they actually hire you.. Then you at least get compensated for your time... 
As if it would happen....
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They would just find one not so qualified and get him for free. Then the fooslish rule continues!!!!! 
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Like I said, "as if it would happen"
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I like it....Carroll will be a dud again as NFL coach....USC program is about to have some sheet go down and it's good to see him bail on his kids  The only thing I think about is what this means to Seattle draft as they pick one before us
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Wonder if this guarantees Taylor Mays to Seattle?
Carrol is one of Mays biggest supporters....and Seattle is home to him.
Might monkey wrench up some draft orders.
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Mike Leach says Graham should be NFL draft pick...couldn't even make a roster and is playing in Canada or whatever
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I hope he goes with Mays... gives us a better chance at Berry.
If we get Berry at 7, we have stolen arguably the best player in the draft. The only other on his level is Suh.
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I am pretty sure no coach has ever been hired after an interview to fulfill the rule. I mean, most front offices have an idea who they want going into the interview process.
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Mike Tomlin??
that's the only one I can think of....not sure if b/c of the rule, but there was a lot people thinking Grimm or Whisenhunt was in
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There. Fixed it.
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I wonder if this means an attempt to trade for Matt Leinart might be in the future for the Seahawks? (Haven't looked into any contract/cap ramifications for the Cards.)
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I wonder if this means an attempt to trade for Matt Leinart might be in the future for the Seahawks? (Haven't looked into any contract/cap ramifications for the Cards.)
Pretty good thought, but have you seen Leinart play? The guy has a limp arm (if you think Quinn has a weak arm...watch Matt) and really has shown nothing that would make you think he could be anything more than a back-up. Yes, Carroll coached him, but I don't think he would trade for him, rather he might take a flyer on him if he's cut.
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If we get Berry at 7, we have stolen arguably the best player in the draft. The only other on his level is Suh.
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