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01.20.2010
The Cleveland Browns today announced the additions of Jon Sandusky, Keith Gilbertson, John Spytek and A.J. Durso to the club's personnel department. In addition, the team signed defensive back Chris Roberson as a free agent for the 2010 season.

Sandusky joins the Browns as Director of Player Personnel after spending the previous nine seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles, with the last two as Director of Pro Personnel. He spent his first six seasons with the club as a pro scout after joining the Eagles as an intern in the personnel department in 2001. A native of State College, Pa., Sandusky was a safety for Penn State from 1996-99. He is the son of former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.

Gilbertson, who brings more than 30 years of coaching experience to Cleveland, joins the team as Director of Pro Personnel. He previously spent four seasons (2005-08) in multiple capacities with the Seattle Seahawks. He spent his second tenure with the team as an offensive consultant (2005), assistant offensive line coach (2006-07) and wide receivers coach (2008). During his career, he has made collegiate coaching stops at Utah State (1977-81), Idaho (1982, ‘86-88), Washington (1989-91, '99-04), and Cal-Berkeley (1992-95). His previously coached professionally with the Seattle Seahawks from 1996-98 and with the L.A. Express of the USFL from 1983-85. He is a native of Snohomish, Wash.

Spytek joins the Browns as a Personnel Executive. He spent his previous five seasons in the Eagles' personnel department, including the last three as a college/pro scout. He spent the 2006 season as Philadelphia's college scouting assistant and 2005 as an intern in the pro personnel department. He also spent the 2004 season as an intern in the Detroit Lions' football operations department. Spytek attended the University of Michigan, where he lettered four seasons at linebacker. He is a native of Pewaukee, Wis.

Durso joins the team as a pro scout after spending the previous four seasons with the Seahawks. He spent his first three in football operations (2006-08), as an assistant to Head Coach Mike Holmgren and the 2009 season as an offensive assistant. In 2005, he interned in the Seahawks' operations department. He is a graduate of the SUNY Institute of Technology, where he was a member of the baseball team. He grew up in Utica, N.Y.

Originally drafted in the seventh round (237th overall) of the 2005 NFL draft by Jacksonville, Roberson spent the final four weeks of the 2009 season on the Philadelphia Eagles' practice squad. He previously spent time with the Jaguars (2005-06) and Detroit (2008), appearing in seven games, totaling three tackles. A four-year letterman (2001-04) at Eastern Michigan University, he appeared in 46 games, totaling 101 tackles and one sack. A native of Detroit, Mich., the 5-11, 190-pounder attended Harrison High School in Farmington Hills, Mich.


nordawg

oh Gawd, are we going to be the Cleveland Iggles next?

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! University of Michigan!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

That's how it goes right Braylon?

lol at BE...

Maybe I'm drinking the Holmgren kool-aid, but whatever & whomever he chooses is fine by me.

These are Pro Personnel types .... not College Scouts.

They are here to find those few and far between free agent signees, figure out who might fit via trade, and look at waiver wire pickups ..... not to draft a new offensive system.

I cannot imagine us going out to sign, in free agency, an entire starting offense .... WCO or otherwise. I cannot imagine us trading away numerous picks to accomplish the same.

If a pro guy is proficient, he can look at a player and see what he can, and cannot do ... regardless of system.

It looks like Mike and Tom have been using their address book well.

I expected nothing less.

The less influence Mangini has on personnel decisions, the better.

Those were decisions on the margins, the big ones...

Lewis or Harrison,
Quinn or Anderson
Winslow or Royal
Edwards or Stuckey...

Those were the ones that put the Browns in position of being 1-11.

As secretive as Mangenius is, if he hears that Spytek is in the building he'll probably call Lew Merletti and read him the riot act.

Cool, when's the season start?

Not knowing much on these guys, you can at least get a feel for what they've done, particularly with Philly being a perennial contender. I'm pumped for the draft and ready to get this all going!

Then again, I'm always pumped for the draft....

I like that same group also.

I've said before. This year we don't have to wait as long for the draft either, as it starts on a Thursday this year. Those two days before the draft always kill me. I guess now those days will be pushed forward to Tuesday/Wednesday.

For anyone that honestly believes that Mangini is not going to have any input on the Final Roster, Free Agency, Trades or the Draft is just clueless.

Mangini is still the Head Coach of the team and ultimately, will have some say, but the Big Show and Tom will have the final say.

Mangini has proven several things. He craves power and is very persistent with the ability to sway anyone when given the chance. If there is a guy Mangini absolutely wants, look for him to get that guy if he can Convince the powers that be.

j/k


What are they gonna do, Hire somebody they know nothing about, hire somebody they havent worked with.....Common people, with Holgram in house what did we expect,

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the team Mangini built is in the final four

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seriously, you gotta give credit to both both coaches, Rex's system and intensity is working great with Eric's base roster and types of players.

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He craves power

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You know, I'm not sure that's exactly true.. it may be what the Media in this town want us to believe, but given how he's apparently taken to the new regime, maybe it's not the case..

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and is very persistent with the ability to sway anyone when given the chance

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Now that one, I agree with... he swayed Randy and I thought,, Oh Man,, he's taking over... But then, the season is going down hill fast and Randy fires Kokinis and it's like,,, geez,, does mangini have pictures of Randy doing something he shouldn't?

But in comes Holmgren, who, by his own admission feels that one year isn't fair to a new coach.. but still made it clear that he wanted things his way.. but he promised to listen to Mangini.,.. Again, Mangini swayed him.....

I'm beginning to think that Mangini could sell ice to an eskimo

I also believe he'll have input into player choices.. But I do believe the difference this time is that he'll get a broader spectrum of players presented to him from Heckerts people than he's used to seeing and my guess is that the way they evaluate players will take a turn for the better..

NRTU on this;

WCO: I can see a switch to the WCO, but I don't think you are going to see it next year.. at least not in full bloom.. It's just a guess, but I get the feeling the switch will occur over several years..

I see these hirings as leading to that in the future,,,,

JMO

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sea eagles?

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I guess Tom and Mike are drawing from the wells they know best.. Can't find much wrong with that.. Both the Eagles and the Seahawks have been more successful in the last 10 years than the Browns..

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I also believe he'll have input into player choices.. But I do believe the difference this time is that he'll get a broader spectrum of players presented to him from Heckerts people than he's used to seeing and my guess is that the way they evaluate players will take a turn for the better..

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While i agree he'll have some input i believe it will be more inline with what position he feels need upgraded most..I feel TH and MH will be picking the players and Eric's contibution will be more inline with position.

nordawg

and i have no problem with that....every new regime brings along people they feel know their system and can help them set it up. and they should.

i just thought the term sea eagles was funny

LOL actually it is rather funny..

In fact, I think I just saw a Brown SeaEagle fly by

Yes Yes,, that must be it....LOL

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To be honest, we don't know how well he is taking in the new regime. Now answer this question. Did he really have a choice?

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No, of course we don't know for sure. No way I think we will for a while. If Ever.

As far as a choice,, yeah, he probably did have a choice.. He's under contract.. A contract he signed last year. If he couldn't, didn't or didn't want to sell Holmgren on himself, he wasn't going to starve..

I'm sure he'd have gotten paid just like Davis, Savage and RAC did.

But I think you are refering to his career right? In that case, I'm confident that at some point, he'd have gotten hired by someone to be a DC.. Look at Belichick. Fired as HC of the Bro errr, Ravens and he catches on as a DC and eventually he becomes a HC again.

Maybe that would have happened, and maybe not. Either way, with the money he's been paid and would be paid by the Browns, he can be conservative and be set for life..

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We've used this excuse for the QB's poor play for too long.

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I'm pretty tired of excuses as well.. I suppose we all are to some extent.

It appears that Randy Lerner was as well.. I'll say this for him, no more bull, he went out and got one of the most respected football guys around..

Your pretty much right on all points.

I think Lerner has finally done the best he can do, which is by Hiring Holmgren. From there, things should fall into place.

What should be even more interesting, combined with Holmgren and Heckhert, both have a combined 4 losing seasons since 1992.

Holmgren has 3 Losing Seasons as a Head Coach since 1992, and Heckert has 1 Losing Season as a Front Office Executive since 2000.

So that begs to ponder, what to expect in 2010? Neither Holmgren or Heckert is used to losing and are consistent winners. Also, lets say the Browns do have a winning season next year, who will get credit?

That was the only problem I saw with the Holmgren hire to Mangini is conflict of credit if the team does become successful. A good situation to have nonetheless.

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Heckert has 1 Losing Season as a Front Office Executive since 2000

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Actually, I think Heckerts goes back to his days with the Dolphins so it's like 1 losing season since around 199X.. Damn fine stat

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Also, lets say the Browns do have a winning season next year, who will get credit?

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Good question, but then, do we really care? I don't.. I'll give them all credit from Lerner on down.

If we take all the guys at face value, don't read between the lines,, just look at what they say and believe for a second, sounds as if they will be working very very much as a team so therefore, they would all deserve credit.

Does that sound right?

Right, and I really don't care who gets the "credit" either, just as long as we win!

I would be willing to accept credit for that!