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[Quote]CBS Says No to ManCrunch.com
Ad1/29/2010 3:45PM by Andrew Scott
ManCrunch.com's Super Bowl dreams are officially over.According to the Live Feed, CBS has punted the site's controversial ad that features two men kissing, claiming that the "creative is not within the Network's Broadcast Standards for Super Bowl Sunday."
Additional questions were raised by the network's sales department, which said that it had trouble verifying the site -- an important factor in the payment process.But while sources cited within the report claim that this may have all been a publicity stunt, ManCrunch.com's Elissa Butcher insists that the commercial was "100 percent serious.
"ManCrunch.com's Super Bowl dreams are officially over.According to the Live Feed, CBS has punted the site's controversial ad that features two men kissing, claiming that the "creative is not within the Network's Broadcast Standards for Super Bowl Sunday." Additional questions were raised by the network's sales department, which said that it had trouble verifying the site -- an important factor in the payment process.But while sources within the report argue that this was all just a publicity stunt, ManCrunch.com's Elissa Butcher insists that the commercial was "100 percent serious.""We have the money to pay for it," she said. "If the ad showed a man and woman kissing it would have been accepted. You see ads for erectile dysfunction morning, noon and night, it's discriminatory that they wont show this.
"Alonso Duralde, former Arts & Entertainment Editor for The Advocate and editor of the upcoming QueerSighted.com, agrees, based on some of the commercials that CBS has aired during past Super Bowl telecasts."CBS seems to have more double standards than it has commercial slots," he told AOL TV exclusively via email. "It turns down 'advocacy' ads from pro-gay churches but then allows Focus on the Family to buy a spot trumpeting its anti-choice message. It turns down an ad from a gay dating site that features a consensual gay kiss, but runs Snickers ads in which a gay kiss is the squeamish joke that leads to a violent and queer-bashing punchline.""This is why I watch the Puppy Bowl every year instead," he added.
Meanwhile, USA Today is also reporting that CBS has rejected another AD -- this time, from GoDaddy.com. The ad -- featuring Danica Patrick -- profiles an effeminate ex-football player named Lola who launches his own women's lingerie line. Duralde calls the ad "moronic.""The GoDaddy.com featuring 'Lola' ... is moronic in many ways," he said. "But at least it's consistent with the company's image (although the GoDaddy ads are usually more sexist than sissyphobic) and with the kind of homo-bashing in which previous Super Bowl ads (again, Snickers) reveled."
Maybe they shoulda got Tim Tebow.
Note: I'm not commenting on Tebow's sexual preference, just that apparently Anti-Abortion ads are ok, but Pro-Gay ads are bad.
Grow up CBS.
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Or.... CBS is allowed the freedom to do business as, and with who, they wish. It's not an employment, they aren't discriminating against hiring someone so it's moot to call them immature. It's their liberty to decide, not you, or anyone else.
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I understand your point and all, I'm trying to find one report on it that went on to say that someone at the website was told by CBS that there went any open slots availible, which wasn't true.
And if that's true, then imo the site has a point.
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There may, or may not be. If one individual said they had time-slots, and another tells them differently, it may have been a misunderstanding or miscommunication between individual employees. If not, and CBS still has slots, then, again, CBS is allowed to use their time slots for their own self-interest. The site has zero entitlement to the company's investment choices.
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There's also the opinion that the site, assuming CBS would say no, are just trying to get some publicity out of this whole thing.
Here's and idea: let's just get rid of commercials!
I'd rather watch football anyways.
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There's also the opinion that the site, assuming CBS would say no, are just trying to get some publicity out of this whole thing.
Here's and idea: let's just get rid of commercials!
I'd rather watch football anyways.
And how does the network pay it's employees and contracts?
Going to pretend that I didn't just copy and paste ManCrunch.com into my browser to figure out what it was. Not that there's anything wrong with that sort of thing. But not going to cry over not seeing that ad on Superbowl Sunday.
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What is with everyone wanting to bring two dudes kissing into living rooms across America!?!? I don't get it. Actually, I think this is all Will Ferrell and Sasha Baron Cohens fault. If they wouldn't have shared that kiss on Talledega Nights---then none of this would be happening. America is so ridiculous anymore----oooh lets see how shocking we can be. Lets show how shocking and edgy we are----by showing dudes kissing.  The whole male-male kiss is a fad. Pretty soon it will lose its appeal, just like the female-female kiss.
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it can't happen soon enough, for my tastes.
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Roger that, Clem ... and Derden, I think it actually started with Isaiah Thomas and Magic Johnson smooching at half-court before the NBA Finals about 20 years ago. Attention whores are not a new phenomenon, especially in showbiz.
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America is so ridiculous anymore----oooh lets see how shocking we can be. Lets show how shocking and edgy we are----by showing dudes kissing.
The whole male-male kiss is a fad. Pretty soon it will lose its appeal, just like the female-female kiss.
As long as it continues to garner attention, it will be displayed and promoted. For whatever reason, right now male kissing angers people, which in turn, brings gay rights supporters out of the woodwork, and then your network's programming is watercooler talk.
Once people get over it, it won't be so prominent.
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Pretty soon it will lose its appeal, just like the female-female kiss.
lost its appeal? lol i guess i missed when that happened
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and here I thought this thread was going to be about a new, bigger, candy bar from Nestle.
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Pretty soon it will lose its appeal, just like the female-female kiss.
lost its appeal? lol i guess i missed when that happened
I must have missed the memo 
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just clicking...
If anyone believes that this Man Crunch Group is angry in any way about not gettign their ad in the lineup they are foolingthemselves. This is a win win situation for them.
If CBS puts their ad up...they get their ad on TV and get media exposure and people talk about the gay mens dating site ad the next day....
If CBS declines...they go to the media , the Man Crunch name goes out and people talk about it like crazy. See it is already working. we are talking about it now and some of you have already punched it intoyour browser just to see if the site was real. And they get their hits on the site, it's a media storm....etc.
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
What's the use of wearing your lucky rocketship underpants if nobody wants to see them????
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If anyone believes that this Man Crunch Group is angry in any way about not gettign their ad in the lineup they are foolingthemselves. This is a win win situation for them.
If CBS puts their ad up...they get their ad on TV and get media exposure and people talk about the gay mens dating site ad the next day....
If CBS declines...they go to the media , the Man Crunch name goes out and people talk about it like crazy. See it is already working. we are talking about it now and some of you have already punched it intoyour browser just to see if the site was real. And they get their hits on the site, it's a media storm....etc.
And it's a lot cheaper to get the media exposure this way anyhow.
Also, I'm sure the NFL puts guidelines on CBS for what they can and cannot show during the superbowl.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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Maybe they shoulda got Tim Tebow.
Note: I'm not commenting on Tebow's sexual preference, just that apparently Anti-Abortion ads are ok, but Pro-Gay ads are bad.
Grow up CBS.
I agree.
I will say that I agree that CBS can do business with whomever they want. If they want to ignore one group and pander to another, that is 100% their call.
But I don't like the hypocrisy of it.
Then you have this guy saying they shouldn't run the GoDaddy.com ad because it's "moronic"? Have you seen about 90% of the Super Bowl ads the past few years?
I'll throw this article on the fire, for your discussion:
Super Bowl ad spat not Tebow's fumble
By Michael Lewis, Special to CNN
Editor's note: Michael Lewis is a staff writer for the Daytona Beach News-Journal and has written for Maxim, Tennis Week and other magazines. He can be reached at michaeljlewis.wordpress.com
(CNN) -- For the last two weeks I've listened to people all up in arms that former University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow will star in a 30-second, anti-abortion commercial with his mom during Sunday's Super Bowl.
They shouldn't be pushing their agenda, some complain. It's ridiculous that political, issue-driven ads are now being allowed in the Super Bowl, others say.
But let's pause to make sure any criticism goes where it belongs: with the weak-kneed network airing the game.
Ever since he burst onto the national scene, Tebow has worn his religion on his sleeve, right next to his play sheet, wearing eye-black adorned with Bible verses, helping with circumcisions in the Philippines as part of missionary work (yep, and there are pictures, too!) and doing his best to force his beliefs into your face.
This is something of a time-honored practice in sports -- particularly in football, particularly in the South, where prayers are said before kickoff in jam-packed stadiums.
One of Tebow's predecessors at Florida, Danny Wuerffel, is also famous for blending Christianity and football, offering up slant passes and sermons. And legendary defensive end Reggie White once told reporters that God had directed him to sign with the Green Bay Packers. Tebow is just the latest athlete to engage in this kind of thing. But he is not to be blamed for appearing in an issue ad; he's just doing what he believes is right.
The real problem is that CBS drew a line when it made room for just this ad under its loosened rules about allowing advocacy spots during what has long been the biggest television show of the year.
And, sure, it is their right. If they want to run an anti-abortion spot and take the $2.6 million, or so, from Focus on the Family, the Christian group that's sponsoring the commercial, fine. It's tough to sell ads in this economy, and CBS needed to sell out the Super Bowl.
But they accepted only the ad from Focus on the Family. When a gay dating site called Mancrunch.com tried to buy air time to run a goofy commercial showing two men holding hands and then kissing, the network suddenly got the willies.
They turned that one down.
So, here is a straightforward question. Is Mancrunch.com's money not green? Is there some reason why one button-pushing, open-to-debate point of view gets an airing, but the other one is deemed unacceptable? We all may think we know the answer, but this does not make it right.
The relevant answer is, that when it came time to test-driving their new ad policy, the network turned cowardly.
On one side you have the mammoth Focus on the Family, a conservative, evangelical Christian, non-profit organization with a $138 million budget and an unsubtle agenda. It's an organization so powerful that it can make or break political candidates, steer the national conversation on everything from physician-assisted suicide to abstinence-only sex education in schools, and cause a furor where none previously existed. On the other side, you have a Canadian gay dating site.
If a network rejects Focus on the Family's ad, what does that mean? Tom Krattenmaker, an author whose recent book "Onward Christian Athletes" chronicles the immersion of religion into sports, suggested one real concern that CBS may have feared beyond any notion of gauging the nation's appetite for the gay dating ad.
"They probably had to contemplate the reaction they would get if they rejected Focus on the Family," Krattenmaker said. "Maybe Focus on the Family would then put out some publicity bashing CBS."
The Colorado-based organization has already shown it's willing to try to do financial harm to companies it doesn't like, companies who dare to support things like civil rights for gay and lesbians. Focus on the Family has urged boycotts of major corporations over gay rights issues. Could CBS have been thinking about this?
Television networks are in bad shape these days and don't want to lose a nickel of revenue. The thought of risking the buying power of the Focus on the Family followers could be too terrifying to contemplate. And then running a gay dating ad during the same broadcast?
In a statement, CBS said it's standards and practice process "ensures all ads -- on all sides of an issue -- are appropriate for air," and that it would "continue to consider responsibly produced ads from all groups for the few remaining spots in Super Bowl XLIV."
Of course, it's sheer hypocrisy for CBS to pretend a humorous commercial in which two men watching the game on the couch accidentally brush hands, lock eyes and then start kissing for eight whole seconds while a companion looks away awkwardly (the ad is already all over YouTube), is too racy for the usual highbrow lineup of Super Bowl ads.
If CBS's defenders contend that viewers can just exercise their free will and choose to get up for Tostitos and beer during the Tebow ad, why does the network not allow them to make that same decision for the Mancrunch ad? After all, there's no more of a national consensus about abortion than there is about homosexuality.
I don't think anyone would've cared much about any of this if advocacy ads from all sides of the social and political spectrum had a fair chance to air. But it's this selective method that paints the network as the biggest wimps of all on Super Bowl Sunday.
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maybe it's just me but, I think if the website didn't have to show guys kissing each other then maybe CBS would have not said no. Why do they have to show this to illustrate what type of site it is (actually I know why) but if everyone is up in arms about CBS' decision then this is prolly why IMO. I have never saw Tebow's commercial but I doubt it shows anything about the actual abortion process. Call me what you will but I don't want to see it either.
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I think if the website didn't have to show guys kissing each other then maybe CBS would have not said no.
that wasn't even it....CBS has plenty of shows that have shown guys kissing on television before.
8 seconds of kissing is what the commercial wanted to do....I believe if godaddy.com wanted to show a commercial with 8 full seconds of kissing between Danica Patrick and a random male model, it also would have been vetoed.
personally, i believe the website made the commercial to purposely get vetoed....then, they could raise a big stink....get people on message boards talking about it.....and get a bunch of views......all for free (instead of $2.6mil).
basically, a brilliant marketing manuever that some website pulls off every year....well done.
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. I have never saw Tebow's commercial but I doubt it shows anything about the actual abortion process. Call me what you will but I don't want to see it either.
To quote a friend of mine: showing 30 seconds of a cute puppy would have been less innocuous than Tebow's commercial
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I saw the ad on YouTube and didn't think it was that over the top
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