DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Are we gonna ignore the fact that Troy Smith wants to play for the BROWNS?

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Not sure if he would be the next McNabb/ Vick / Cunningham

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The only reason you compare him to those three guys is because he is black.

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Are we gonna ignore the fact that Troy Smith wants to play for the BROWNS?

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And contrary to popular belief, the Philadelphia Eagles plan on keeping Vick in 2010, NFL Network insider Michael Lombardi reported Tuesday.

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"They have no intention this offseason of trading Michael Vick," Lombardi said on NFL Network's NFL Total Access. "Many people around the league feel like that's a lot of false bravado, (and) they're going to release him, because he has a ($1.5 million) roster bonus due in March. Not the case."

For his part, Vick has made it known that he's seeking a starting job. That said, he hasn't ruled out the possibility of returning to the Eagles.

In an interview with Sports Illustrated's Dan Patrick on Monday, Vick spoke about staying in Philadelphia.

"I would really have to think about it," said Vick, who's scheduled to make $5.25 million next season. "I like the coaching staff. I like the people around there. Maybe I would do it. Who knows?"

In the end, though, it isn't Vick's call to make. The Eagles have an option to keep him next season and will have the final say in his future. As of now, they already are figuring out ways to increase his role, Lombardi reported.

"The Eagles believe as this offseason continues, they could incorporate him more into their offense," Lombardi said. "Seven-to-15 plays, he's a unique player, plus he could start at a moment's notice. Most of the National Football League will take this as a surprise, but the Eagles believe they're in a very good position, and they won't trade Michael Vick."




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» Blog Blitz: Eagles This season was Vick's first with the Eagles after he spent six with the Atlanta Falcons. Vick missed the entire 2007 and 2008 seasons while serving a federal prison sentence for his part in a dogfighting operation.

This season, Vick flashed some of the skills that made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 2001 NFL Draft, but he didn't see much playing time behind Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb, both of whom are under contract with the Eagles for 2010. Vick finished with 86 passing yards and 95 rushing yards. He threw for one touchdown and ran for two more.

Vick told Patrick that he hasn't lost any faith in his abilities and said he considers himself "top 10" in the NFL in quarterbacks. "I'm confident in my skills," he said.

Should the Eagles change their mind and opt to trade or release Vick, there could be plenty of interest in the quarterback, according to NFL Network's Jason La Canfora. He recently listed the Buffalo Bills, St. Louis Rams, Carolina Panthers, Oakland Raiders and Jacksonville Jaguars as teams that could go after Vick.

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Why would the Ravens draft a first round QB the very next year IF Smith had all of these great attributes you claim? The NCAA is not the NFL. Pro personnel understand this.

If your claim holds water, it would be your opinion that the Ravens totaly wasted a first round draft pick the very next year when they had the very QB they needed for their future.

That theory holds no water imo. Sorry if I put more trust in the Ravens staff than I do your opinion of what you saw him do at OSU. Their track record in drafting far outweighs your man crush of Troy Smith we've all seen fully evident over the years here.

Many great college QB's simply don't translate in the NFL. I too am an OSU fan. I expected Smith to go possibly in the third round while you looked at him as a first round pick.

The Ravens saw him as a thirdf round pick and as a back-up. Which is why he was drafted in the third round with their franchise QB drafted the very next year. They actually trade4d down to the 26th pick thinking Flacco would be there and had to trade back up to the 18th pick to get him. That's a lot of work to aquire a QB you don't even need isn't it?

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2008/04/Ravens_Get_Their_Man.aspx

Because if all these amazing attributes you claim were true, the Ravens staff are morons and wasted that first round draft pick to aquire a QB they never needed in the first place.

And BTW- The flu doesn't last forever. If Smith was so great, he would have been the starter when he got well. Obviously the Ravens didn't see so much in Smith that they made a change in QB's after Smith got well.

But I understand just how overated you have Smith and no ammount of common sense and logic can change your mind.

jmho

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For clarity only-- Troy Smith was drafted in the 5th round, not that it changes the argument.

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And, once again, hopefully for the last time, Mike Holmgren is not going to bring Mike Vick in to be the Browns quarterback. He's not. It won't happen. Charlie Frye is not coming back. Otto Graham is probably out of the question.

I do like the idea of Mike Vick, TO, and Marshawn on the same team. That should be an interesting locker room.

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OWINGS MILLS, Md. -- Baltimore Ravens backup quarterback Troy Smith's agent is adamant that he did request a trade for the former Heisman Trophy winner following the team's December loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Agent Ralph Cindrich, who represents the former Ohio State star, emphasized that he definitely contacted the Ravens.

Baltimore general manager Ozzie Newsome stated Wednesday that he hadn't received a trade request from Cindrich.

Cindrich said he left messages for Newsome and wound up speaking directly with Ravens vice president of football administration Pat Moriarty a week or two later.

"Ozzie was called and message was left followed by call and good conversation with Pat," Cindrich wrote in an e-mail to National Football Post. "How many calls does Ozzie return during season? Asked if I should get to Ozzie, answer from Pat no. You talk to Pat, message gets to Ozzie.

"I gave Pat heads up I needed to get word out. I am more than 90 percent sure that Ozzie was called about Troy wanting a trade."

During the Ravens' state of the team press conference, Newsome said he never heard directly from Cindrich regarding Smith.

“I have not heard from his agent,” Newsome said. “And I know who his agent is personally, so I have not heard that.”

When that comment was relayed to Cindrich, he issued the following reply:

"In a strict sense, Ozzie is correct but he was called and message left. Ozzie is a busy guy during the season. I don't know if I ever spoke with him during the season and I had a few good players there. Then I called, left a message with Pat Moriarty, and he called back after a week or two.

"I related the whole story telling him that Troy wanted to play and I felt it had to get out before the
season was over because coaches and GM's were being interviewed, decisions were
being made. I said if you want me to keep trying to get to Ozzie (and made some joke about going after him) I said I will."

Cindrich also issued a series of comments on his Twitter account Thursday.

"Baltimore Ravens: Ozzie Newsome's office called on Troy Smith trade at the time, message left, with call and conference with Pat Moriarty."

"Heard Ravens Ozzie Newsome did not receive formal Troy Smith trade request. Ozzie pretty please with sugar on top trade the friggin guy."

"Agent formal trade request not in rules-not seen in 40 yrs in #NFL. And what is Pat Moriaty-chopped liver? What, he doesn't pass on talks?"

Smith recently said he would love to play for his hometown Cleveland Browns. And his friend and former college teammate, Donte' Whitner, lobbied for the Buffalo Bills to trade for Smith.

However, it appears unlikely that Smith will ultimately be traded.

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Ahh, you are probably right about it being too late for him to help us win a superbowl,, But then again, we aren't nearly a super bowl caliber team at this point either.


As a guy to come in for next year and maybe the year after while we groom someone to take over,,, that I can see..

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