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i know for a fact there are tons of golfers on here...so thought i would ask.
wellp, i'm thnkin' of buyin a set of clubs for myself. I only go 3-4 times a year..and i love it. I've never owned a set of clubs before, and there are so many to pick from.
Just wondering what you guys started out with and what you are using now.
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I had just bought the Nike NDS irons when my uncle got sick with cancer and gave me his golf clubs just before he passed away (Golf was kind of our thing). So I use his clubs now, which are clubs he handmade, but I did use the NDS irons a few times before that and liked them.
You can probably get a set of those for cheap now, because I bought them for $550 like 2 1/2 years ago.
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I also go about 3-4 times a year as well, love the sport. But it really depends on how much money you're willing to spend if you play for fun or for competition. Sine I go to the driving range sometimes and play every once in awhile I didn't buy a club set from Nike, or Ping, or Callaway brands because they are too expensive for me. Instead I went to a used sporting goods shop to get my clubs. I match the clubs that fit to me and get the ones I figure I will get the most use out of(ex. 2 iron, 3 iron, 9 iron, pw) Later on if the grips on the clubs start to become worn off, I take it to the pro shop and have a new one put on, about 15 bucks. However, for the 3 wood or driver, I'd make sure those are better quality. I don't worry about the grooves that much on my irons, because hell, I don't play well enough to put backspin on the ball. But if you're just looking to have a fun time, getting non expensive clubs is the way to go. You get to enjoy the sport without having to spend very much; and as we all know golf IS an expensive sport. 
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oh yah for sure man...i'm in the same boat..i don't wanna spend too much i would say 200-300 is my limit...and i know i can get some decent ones with that...not great. which is fine with me. I thought about going to play it again sports...but even there it's almost 100-150...so i said might as well put few more bucks in and get a new set. i found this online...not sure if it's worth buying..since i dont know a whole lot about clubs lol..i just love playing for fun every now n then. http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/tiger-shark-golf-hammerhead-complete-golf-set-with-bag.html
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My first set was a beginners set. Dynatours complete set w/ the really small medal woods. They were fine for a couple years until I started to really enjoy playing. Since then I got a set of Knock Off Ping Zing II irons. They are called Z Model II and they are really close to the Pings. I got those for $125. I have been very happy w/ them. I now use a Taylor Made Burner Bubble 2 Driver and 3 wood, also really like them. I upgraded my putter last season to a Odyssey White Hot. I bought the woods and putter on EBAY used but in mint condition and got really good deals.
I would definitely check out EBAY once you decide what to get. Great time of year to buy!
Good Luck and hit em straight!
I should add that my irons are steel shafted and the woods are graphite stiff shaft 90s
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I'm an aspiring golf pro. Moving to Vegas to get a degree in Professional Golf Management in my 30's. Playing some older Cleveland Ta2 irons (more of a players club), R9 TP driver, TP 3-wood and hybrid.
My advice: Don't buy knock-offs because you run a much greater chance of buying clubs built by a guy in his garage who was hammered on cheap whiskey while building them *L* Basically, the heads could fly off the shafts at any point.
So here's what you can do. Go to a local Golfsmith (if there's one around you) and look at all their pre-owned clubs. You'll be able to find a name-brand set for the kind of money you're looking at spending. They won't be new and they won't be fancy. They don't have to be if you're playing 3-4 times a year. They just have to be built by a factory guy. If you can find a set of oversized clubs you'll be doing yourself a big favor.
The upside is that you can ask to hit those things in one of the bay's. If you like what you feel then you've found your set of clubs.
for as little as you play, technology isn't important with the exception of oversized heads.
You don't need graphite shafts. You don't really even have to worry about shaft flex, but if you have a choice, you'll probably want "regular" flexed shafts.
Seriously, I'm playing with irons that were purchased in '02. If I don't have to have the newest irons, you don't either. Just find someplace where you can try them out first. If you can't, then just get a set of oversized irons on Ebay that are built by a brand-name.
Here's a set that probably has too much technology for what you really need, but it includes irons, woods, driver, putter, and bag:
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Any set like that will do great for you.
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You'll pay way too much for top name brand clubs. First buy a cheapo set until you get your swing grooved. Then get fitted by a reputable clubmaker and have him make a set for you. The name on the back of the head means nothing....the swingweight, length, stiffness, grip and lie angle that fits your swing is what matters most. I used to build clubs for myself, friends and family for a fraction of the cost of what a set of Pings will run you.
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My advice, buy the cheapest set of 3 thru PW that you can find if you only golf 3-4 times a year. Just make sure you are comfortable with em'.
I spent a hundred dollars on a brand new set of clubs at Dicks Sporting goods (can't even remember the name now), which was my very first set I ever bought they even came with all the woods and driver, and I still use the woods. I played with them for two years and got halfway descent with em' (Halfway descent for me was shooting in the high 80's). Then I I thought since I was getting better I should buy some better clubs. So I bought a set of Taylormade clubs and I can't hit em worth crap, I wish I would have never gotten rid of my other clubs. But like everyone has said you have to have them fitted to you, which I haven't done yet.
I'm well below an amateur golfer, sometimes i'm just flat out terrible. But my point is don't worry about brand name. No sense in spending a bunch of money on a set of clubs when you only play 3-4 times a year. Just go out and have fun.
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No sense in spending a bunch of money on a set of clubs when you only play 3-4 times a year. Just go out and have fun.
That's what I was going to say....I play Ping i10 I keep at the club and a set of nicklaus air bears which I keep at the house....more or less my travel clubs.
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I was going to recommend asking Overtoad about this. - He's answered several of my golf questions already. - I see he has already commented.
'Toad if your reading this, so he knows, could the poster save any money by incorporating a couple hybrid clubs?
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I know you didn't ask me, but you never save money when you go out any buy extra clubs. 
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The best piece of advice I've read on hear so far is to buy the clubs from someplace that will allow you to hit a bucket of ball with them 1st. Lots of variation to clubs (even the same brand - club head angle etc).
The advice I would add is that once you decide that you really love golf and start to play regularly, get your clubs fitted by a professional. Not that expensive and can add 20 yards to your drive and fix that slice ;-)
To save some money, don't buy a bunch of clubs you won't use. Most of us casual golfers can't hit the longer irons. The 6 iron is the longest iron I can hit with any consistency so I replace the 2-5 irons with a fairway wood which is much easier to hit.
Also forget the driver, a 3 wood is much easier to tee off with and you don't lose that much distance.
I would suggest carrying a 3 wood, 5 wood, 6, 7, 8, 9, pitching wedge, sand wedge and putter. To save some extra cash (if that is an issue) you can probably get by with drooping the 7 or 8.
When you are ready to add another club, pick up a lob wedge.
To save even more money, when practicing spend a lot of time on the putting green and the pitching green. Most putting greens are free to use. A lot of places have a pitching green you can use for free as well. Buckets of balls can add up quickly. Long drives are impressive and make the rest of your foursome go "wow" but you can save the most strokes by improving with the wedge and putter. You hit a 300 yard drive in the fairway, flub a wedge, chip on and 3 putt that's 2 over par. You hit 220 yard drive into the rough, hit an 8 or 9 to 50 yards from the green, pop a wedge onto the green and one putt. Well that's par :-)
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Wow this post sounds just like me, only thing different is the Taylor Made irons I bought later I liked. They are oversized RACs I think I gave around $250 or so for em.
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I was going to recommend asking Overtoad about this. - He's answered several of my golf questions already. - I see he has already commented.
'Toad if your reading this, so he knows, could the poster save any money by incorporating a couple hybrid clubs?
Could he save money..............he could save strokes, but money would be a crap-shoot. The only way he could save money is if he finds one of the newer transitional sets (which replaces 3, 4, or even 5 irons with hybrids in the set) on Ebay. For $200-$300 I kinda doubt he'd have much luck finding an entire set that includes those. And by entire set I mean a driver, a wood, a hybrid, irons, and a putter.
Here's a transitional set, but I have to admit, I've never hit a "Dynacraft" club before. I never would because the technology isn't there for my game, but for a guy that plays once every other month, who knows? It'd be a crap-shoot but might do the trick. web page
Here's a transitional set by Cobra. I'd trust this brand over the Dynacrafts: web page
But again, the advice I previously offered is important: If anyone has the ability to go hit the clubs before buying, do it. Confidence is one of the greatest requirements to play and enjoy golf. I've hit a driver with a $1000 shaft and I wouldn't have played it if you gave it to me for free. Why? Because it didn't fit my needs and thus I had zero confidence in it. Places like Golfsmith have dozens of sets of clubs for pretty damned cheap. You can hit them first and decide if you like them.
Another side note regarding getting fitted for clubs. If you really only play 3-4 times a year, it's a waste of money. Getting fitted isn't the expense, it's getting clubs that fit the profile. Here's why.........
I'm almost 6'2 and my fitting includes clubs that are .5" longer than most stock clubs and I tend to favor a club that is 1-degree upright. I also have a 5-iron swing-speed of 90 MPH. Because I've played sports my entire life and have Rheumatoid Arthritis my joints are shot, I am transitioning to graphite shafts. Each shaft is going to have a different flex, a different weight, a different kick-point, a different taper, a different diameter, and other confusing-ass elements, hehe. Because I need between a Stiff shaft and an Extra-stiff shaft, I'm going to have to pay for the right set of shafts. One "stiff" shaft by Adila is going to have a different swing-speed rating than a "stiff" shaft by Matrix. So I'm forced to custom-order all this stuff and have a quality club-maker build them for me.
I'm not going to just find those clubs on the used rack of Golfsmith I'm going to have to order those clubs new, and new clubs are like buying a new car: It's a poor value.
So unless a person has a really strong desire to play golf on a regular basis, it's not really worth being truly fitted. 90% of the golfers out there will be just fine with a stock set of irons off the rack. If you're over 6'2 or shorter than about 5'9 or have arms like freakin' Manute Bol, then you'll probably have to think about having clubs built or adjusted.
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'Peen, you didn't get me dude. By incorporating a couple of hybrids, he may not need to buy 3,4,5,and 6 irons. - Considering that used clubs are a possibility, he may be able to piece together a set and save some money.
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Playing 3 or 4 times a year you could have fun with a mashie and a couple of niblik's! Visit a few garage sales, they're like bowling balls and tires, you'll always find at least one set at a really good price.
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You are right about the fitted clubs. When I mentioned it, I was referring to him becoming a regular golfer not the sporadic 3-4x/yr guy. Guess I should have been more clear. Thanks for clarifying that to him for me.
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 Was just making a general comment about what could happen when one goes in for a fitting so people know what they could be in store for. You were right about getting fitted.
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My fitting really helped me. Like you, I am around 6'2"/6'3" so I too need the extra 1/2 inch. I also need the extra stiff shaft and a 3 degree upright. It really helped with my consistency.
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Was just making a general comment about what could happen when one goes in for a fitting so people know what they could be in store for. You were right about getting fitted.
I agree to a point...I don't think it is of great benefit to a guy who plays 5 rounds a year. We all learned the basics of the game before we were ever fitted for clubs.
Maybe some of the young whippersnappers got fitted when they were just starting to play, but us old timers just got some clubs that felt good and started to hit the ball. Add in some lessons from a seasoned golfer or pro....and you take it from there.
At this point the guy is a long way from a good golfer....so if he improves, his swing is bound to change, and the way you swing the club is going to change the fitting to a degree...is he upright, does he crouch, lot's of variables at this point.
Just get a decent set of clubs off some rack that fits the budget....you'll know if they are too long or short, and at this point that is about all that really matters....he doesn't need to get too involve with loft and lie, shaft flex or type, grip size.
Just get a set and head to the friggen driving range. For a beginner, $300 spent on buckets of balls is more important than getting fitted with the perfect set of clubs....because as you and I know, you can hit those pretty poorly as well.
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$300 spent on the range... hope that would include a couple of lessons from a good swing instructor.
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I mentioned that in the same post. I didn't think I needed to mention it twice.
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So you did - my utmost apologies. I should skim less, I suppose...
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$300 spent on the range... hope that would include a couple of lessons from a good swing instructor.
On that note, a better options than taking range-lessons from a swing-coach is to find a good video-analysis system and go from there.
It's my opinion that I learn more in one lesson via video-analysis than I do in three lessons without it.
There are numerous places around the country which offer video-analysis. I myself use Golftec. The system allows you to review your lessons via the web from any computer, so you can go over what you need to do before you head out to practice.
Of course we're digressing from the original post, but if someone is getting to the point where they are taking the game more seriously, it's better to spend the money wisely, and video-analysis is by FAR the wiser investment than traditional lessons.
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I agree with that.
Maybe back in the early 80's i bought a set of tapes....Al Gieberger was the swing the tapes focused on....think it was called sybervision golf...lot's of slow mo , more or less stick figures....white dots on black screen showing his swing motion.....it incorporated various music....hi tech stuff back then...and I know I forked over some pretty good coin for the set...maybe $200.
Anyway, watching the motions more or less helped with muscle memory, and the music was more or less a trigger you could pull out of the memory bank while out on the course to see the visual in your mind.
I know they helped as it wasn't long after that I got the handicap down to a solid 4 from a 6 and held it there for a long time, so it helped a few strokes a round for sure.....
Being able to see your swing the way they can do it with computers these days would have to be of great benefit.
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It's my opinion that I learn more in one lesson via video-analysis than I do in three lessons without it.
Sure, but since you're an aspiring golf pro, you might be able to carry out that self-analysis with little problem. Those who are relatively new to the game likely wouldn't know what to look for... hence the need for instant feedback from a qualified instructor.
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Two simple words to remember when buying clubs as a beginner that will instantly help...
CAVITY BACK.
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It's my opinion that I learn more in one lesson via video-analysis than I do in three lessons without it.
Sure, but since you're an aspiring golf pro, you might be able to carry out that self-analysis with little problem. Those who are relatively new to the game likely wouldn't know what to look for... hence the need for instant feedback from a qualified instructor.
Sure, Mike Weir wins a Masters and suddenly every Canadian knows about golf. 
Actually, what you probably aren't aware of is that the video-analysis lesson given with all these various applications is given by a teaching-pro, not by the player by himself.
Now, I would also note that the real benefit isn't in just seeing yourself on video, but being able to fully understand what it is that the teaching pro is telling you about.
Here's an example:
One of my issues is that my club-face doesn't run exactly parallel to the back of my right wrist at the half-way point on the downswing, and as a result my club-face can tend to stay a little open at impact.
That's gobledeegook to someone who doesn't have video-playback to understand what it really means. I can explain it until I'm blue in the face, but trying to wrap your mind around it without having a frame of reference is virtually impossible.
Now, if I see my swing and can associate the right feeling with a mental picture of what it means then I can practice the right way and make big progress in much less time.
But there's more.
The reason even the best of the best at anything in the world need video is because we can easily fall into a bad habit because something that changes for the negative can creep into a routine and feel perfectly natural. With video playback of a lesson which you can watch over-and-over we have the ability to diagnose our own mistakes. Without seeing ourselves we have a much tougher time associating the proper movements with the proper feeling.
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sorry i haven't gotten a chance to read this thread properly...been crazy few days.
thanks for all the feedback everyone..i'll get a chance to read this thing tonight lol...gotta go to work right now
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I agree, I was going to say it isn't simply you looking at your swing....a teacher views your swing and them provides the feedback along with all the bells and whistles the computer can provide. If this was available back when I purchased what now seems like ancient age training, I would have done it. At this point I am not all that worried about it....I am happy enough with 4-5 over on a fairly good day and 8-9 over on a fairly bad day....we'll forget about the real bad days. and remember the real good days where par begins to be a realistic possibility.
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Here's an example:
One of my issues is that my club-face doesn't run exactly parallel to the back of my right wrist at the half-way point on the downswing, and as a result my club-face can tend to stay a little open at impact.
Are you left handed?
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Tulsa, I think you already knew I was left-handed as soon as you read about my right wrist, otherwise..............I can't imagine what that swing would look like, other than it'd be so ugly as to make Furyk's swing look graceful. 
I've ordered an R9 3-iron and an R9 TP 3-iron to demo. The Cleveland TA2's I play are essentially blades with a touch of cavity and virtually zero offset. Even the TP's have a significant amount of offset. If you've hit'em, let me know what you think. If I'm about to spend $500-$700 on new shafts and grips, I may consider switching to equipment that conforms to the groove rule going into effect in 2014.
'Peen, I didn't know you played that well. That's good to know if I ever make it back up your way in the summer. Got a wallet?
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I do...it's big enough to stuff your money in
Just kidding man...the game is quickly heading towards the end we don't like to talk about....we sometimes hang on to the good stuff a little longer than reality..a flaw in the aging process I suppose...like most my age, the putting seems to be a real drawback at times.
I can usually get to or around the green well enough....and some days I feel like a 30 year old and all goes as planned....other days....hmmmm 
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Tulsa, I think you already knew I was left-handed as soon as you read about my right wrist, otherwise..............I can't imagine what that swing would look like, other than it'd be so ugly as to make Furyk's swing look graceful.
I've ordered an R9 3-iron and an R9 TP 3-iron to demo. The Cleveland TA2's I play are essentially blades with a touch of cavity and virtually zero offset. Even the TP's have a significant amount of offset. If you've hit'em, let me know what you think. If I'm about to spend $500-$700 on new shafts and grips, I may consider switching to equipment that conforms to the groove rule going into effect in 2014.
It was an educated guess but it's the internet dude, you assume nothing and you very well may have a swing that makes Furyk's look graceful and are happy with it. Actually as long as your swing doesn't look like Barclay's, there's hope!
If you're looking to flatten your right wrist and are leaving the club face open slightly at impact, you're probably going to have a weaken your right hand grip to achieve it. I'm not sure it's going to square that club face as desired but it will flatten that wrist. I'd concern myself more with the plane your bringing the club down on and staying behind the ball than my wrist position. But again, that's just an educated guess not having seen your swing.
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Ah, you were asking in order to diagnose the problem and offer a fix.
No, I know exactly why it's happening. It's because I'm applying too much downcock which is making my wrist cup. Of course that means I can do one of two things: Either cup my wrist less on the downswing in order to retain the bowing or close the face at impact with a build or heavy off-set. I don't like the idea of backing off my 90-MPH 5-iron swing speed, but consistency always comes at the price of power.
'Peen, you're only old if you allow it. Hale Irwin can still beat the Hell out of the Senior Tour well into his retirement years.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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It's because I'm applying too much downcock which is making my wrist cup.
Sounds like a personal problem to me!!!
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
What's the use of wearing your lucky rocketship underpants if nobody wants to see them????
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but consistency always comes at the price of power.
which is why consistency is terribly overrated. 
yebat' Putin
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J/c I too do not golf much. Maybe 12 times a year. Which is bad for Florida, but there is that darn beach callin'  . I am best a marginal golfer. Have finally gotten into the 90's consistantly (well fairly). I went to Dicks and found a set of Ram irons for around 230 bucks. Shafts aren't stiff enough for me, but they suffice. Had them for around 8 years now. Biggest thing I have learned is to forget distance and to make your swing as repetitive as possible. Sometimes ppl get po'd at me for going through my "mental checklist". Yeah, is that long. But as I concentrated more and more, the list got shorter and shorter. Now is maybe 3 or 4 things I have to remind myself. But check Dicks Sporting Goods......my brother worked there seasonally as a second *golf pro* and told me about them. 230 bucks is not bad for an 8 year investment. Drivers, hybrids.....when I see them on sale and I think maybe I need one....can usually be found at Wally-world for cheap. I have an Intech "zapper" 3 hybrid that I love. Not a brand name, but for you and me? will do. Good luck . Lotsa stuff to sort through here. One thing I will mention though. Do not sell yourself short on the irons. Get them all. I have found with my swing (scar tissue in right elbow.cannot straighten all the way), I have terrible slice. Moved closer to the ball and lost distance. So I went up a club or two. Meaning if it was a nine iron shot, I used an eight or a seven. Gained accuracy at the expense of distance..........accuracy is everything. Take this advice from someone who golfs for fun (and the beer cart girls)...........and by the way....My sig?....someone else usually does have to chase it.......... Beachdawg
"I don't want to play golf, when I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it"
Rogers Hornsby. St. Louis Cardinals (1915-1926)
Space Coast, Fla.
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Just do like I did - buy a set. I golfed quite a bit when I was younger - now, not so much.......6 to 10 times a year. I use the clubs I got when I was 22. I'm now 41. I have added a driver, and have replaced the 7 iron I threw in a pond. I golf the same as I did 20 years ago, except a bit better.........I now no longer see the tee box as a "prove it" point - I'd much rather have a 220 yd. drive that goes straight as opposed to a 280 yd. drive that slices. I am a better golfer now - with the same clubs as I had - with 3/4 the swing. If you're a duffer like me that just likes to have fun, hang with the good guys - hell, I do it with 20 yr. old clubs. I don't go out expecting to beat the guys that have the latest and greatest, and take lessons, etc. But often times I do. And it pisses them off like you can't believe.
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but consistency always comes at the price of power.
which is why consistency is terribly overrated.
Yep, that grass in the next fairway over is just as green and just as short as the fairway of the hole you're playing.
#GMSTRONG
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