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All this talk about Kolb is starting to drive me a little wacko.. If Kolb is all that, I'd think that Andy Reid knows it. He's also aware that McNabb is close to the end. I'm equally sure that he's aware of the limitiations that Vick has..or at least the limitations that people on this board feel he has.
So why oh why does anyone actually think there is any way in hell that Kolb gets traded to anybody for anything?
I mean seriously,, the only way he gets traded is if he's not as good as everyone thinks he is and Reid knows it. The problem with him coming here is that Heckert probably would know it also...
The odds that Kolb would get traded would be much higher if this were a "normal" year.
Kolb is entering year 4 of his 4 year rookie deal. Under ordinary circumstances, he would be ab unrestricted free agent after this season. He would probably be a guy who gets that "Matt Schaub" type deal from another team. He still might, even given the fact that he'll be restricted.
The Eagles have to ask themselves whether he is the guy this season .... or do they risk losing him for a 2nd round pick next year. Would a 1st or 2nd this year be a better deal for them?
If they are not ready to commit to him, it could well be time to trade him and look for the next "next" guy.
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I get what you are saying Ytown.. that makes sense.. But I'll ask this a different way..
If Kolb is clearly the future.. I mean if it's the Eagle Brain trust that feels he's the future,, why would they even think of trading him?..
Does anyone think that Atlanta trades Brett Favre if they thought he was the eventual starter? I don't!
They would be better served paying him what it takes to keep him happy and either start him this year or the following.. I just don't see them trading away thier eventual starter.. if indeed that's how he's viewed...
If for what ever reason he's not viewed as the eventual starter,, they I could see them trading him.. makes sense..
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If they view McNabb as the guy for the next 3-4 years, then they almost have to trade Kolb while they can get something for him. Once he reaches UFA, it's Transition or Franchise ..... or lose him completely with no compensation.
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If they view McNabb as the guy for the next 3-4 years, then they almost have to trade Kolb while they can get something for him. Once he reaches UFA, it's Transition or Franchise ..... or lose him completely with no compensation.
exactly, that is the one hope of them trading him...but why I think they will wait until after next year.
i think they want to make a superbowl run next season and they think they have the pieces to do it. so, you HAVE to keep McNabb to make that push (see Rodgers, Aaron for the ups and downs of even a smooth transition of a young 1st time starting QB).
but, they also have to guard against McNabb getting injured derailing their season....which is why I think they keep Kolb.....now, next offseason, they will have to deal Kolb or risk losing him, which is why they will have more pressure to make their decision between the two.
of course, then there might be a lockout.....and that decision will be delayed an entire season potentially
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Probably the only reason anyone feels as if McNabb is nearing the end is because of age.. that's the only reason really...
Getting old does seem to be one of the leading indicators that a guy is nearing the end of his career. 
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Probably the only reason anyone feels as if McNabb is nearing the end is because of age.. that's the only reason really...
That is a valid and legitimate reason. If the Browns are discussing McNabb I hope the discussion is about how he is past his prime.
I will state right now, that McNabb Will Not, in any future year lead a team to the playoffs. This is what I mean,
If he joins a team and starts 10 games they don't make the playoffs.
If he joins a team that makes the playoffs he will be injured or not playing at least 7 of those regular season games.
McNabb is settling for 2nd best, he is not a Vinny Testaverde who will have his best years late in his career.
He will be on TV in 3 years or less.
Mcnabb =  Mcnabb = Browns are a tripple A baseball team.
To quote Bart Simpson at a fictional tripple A minor league baseball game, " We'll not only get to see some young guys not good enough to make it, we'll also get to see a couple of washed up ex major leaguers, right dad"
Draft Tebow, Pike, Bradford, Claussen, McCoy, any of them in any order,
Couldn't they coax Kurt Warner out of retirement? No the TV desk is probably greener grass for Kurt.
The TV anaylist desk Job is better than the starting QB for the Browns job, that is sad but true. Maybe?
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Ok,, that's a good answer and one I hadn't considered.. THe question becomes, do you think that they believe McNabb has 3 or more good years left?
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McNabb doesn't technically have veto power, but he has something else. His contract ends after the 2010 season. So if he doesn't like the team he is going to be traded to he can just tell them that he won't re-sign with them when his contract is up.
So he will have some say in where he goes, if he goes anywhere.
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If he joins a team and starts 10 games they don't make the playoffs.
I understand you don't want McNabb here, but to say that if he goes to the 13 win Vikings, that they'll suddenly be a non-playoff team is ludicris.
Do I think hell come here and well autmatically go to the playoffs? No.
But do ithink that if we had McNabb, shored up the right side of the OL, got a few DBs that we could be a plus 500 team? Definately.
And the fact that all of those things are possible THIS year, is encouraging.
Blind hatred, which is what you seem to have towards Donovan, clouds judgement, and is bad for your liver. :P
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Why even bring up Warner, he is clearly not an option.
I don't understand how, at a reasonable price, anyone would be against Donovan McNabb coming to this team. Right now he is better than any QB the Browns have had since 1999 and it's not even close. Who cares if he only plays for 2-3 more years? Those 2-3 he would still be good, it's not like his talent has dropped off at all.
I don't understand your post at all.
With that said, no way he comes here.
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would love to have mcnabb but it would all depend on what we'd have to give up, i value our draft picks more than i do mcnabb. i wouldn't wanna part with too many of the 11, or pull a chicago and unload the draft cupboard for 2 seaons and get back crappy results.
that chicago trade looks worse and worse when you look closer, they are 2-3 years from seriously competing.
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I'd love to have McNabb also if at all possible without killing us for years in the draft..
As for the Chicago,, oh yeah, that didn't exactly work out to well for them.But they just hired Mike Martz to be the OC so things may just change for the better..we'll see.
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Please. Please. No McNabb.
"Please. Please. No Drew Brees."
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For Christ sakes, our QB's suck...we have to get one.
11th season...played 14 games last year...the guy has only played 4 full seasons in 11 years. His average is 13 games a season. If we get him, we better have a great back up (which we don't). And besides, he'll be 30 in November. With his bum ribs and our o-line on the right side....I dunno...
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11th season...played 14 games last year...the guy has only played 4 full seasons in 11 years. His average is 13 games a season. If we get him, we better have a great back up (which we don't) . And besides, he'll be 30 in November. With his bum ribs and our o-line on the right side....I dunno...
So you are saying since we don't have a legit backup we shouldn't go get a proven winner as a starter?  We don't have a ligit STARTER let alone back up. It's insane to not look at McNabb. Even if he gives us "only" 13 games (his average) we have a much better shot of winning 50%, or better, of those than without him. Regardless of who's holding the clipboard on the sideline.
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Not to pick on you but people keep making these long winded defenses of McNabb and how he's better than what we have and he's done this and that and how he'd make us better then they keep dropping in two simple things, they drop them in as if they are sort of irrelevant...
1. If we can get him "at a reasonable price".. which those so adament about getting him need to define.
2. If we improve these other areas... which if we give up money or draft picks to get him is going to be harder to do.
So to those who really want him.. what are you willing to give up? and what do you expect from him and for how long?
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I am not a McNabb fan. I don't necessarily want McNabb. I just think he is a major upgrade over what we have at the position right now.
I don't really know what reasonable price is really. If we got McNabb (and I don't think we will, he will have too much say in which team he might go to) I wouldn't want to think, "We got bamboozled!" In my mind a reasonable price would be a 2nd round pick and a later round pick. With that said, I think the only way the Eagles trade McNabb is if they are blown away by an offer. I don't think we are likely to be that team as we are more than just a QB away. A team like the Vikings would be able to make that type of offer if Favre retires because they are just a QB away.
I don' think I've said anything along the lines "If we improve these other areas..." but I think the people that are saying that mean improving our receivers and offensive line.
My ideal situation would be to keep Quinn around for another year, draft a QB with one of our multiple 4th round picks (LeFevour, Jarret Brown, Snead, Zac Robinson, etc.). Get a right tackle, get a receiver, and a tight end. Let Quinn try and improve in his second year in the system with proper protection.
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So to those who really want him.. what are you willing to give up? and what do you expect from him and for how long
As I said, I'm not willing to risk the future too heavily to get McNabb today.
What I'd like to see out of McNabb if we did manage to get him is for him to be the stopgap QB for 2 years, then remain as the back up for a while longer. Of course that means that we have to find the next stud out there somewhere... Draft this year or next, FA this year or next..
Is that possible.. hell if I know.
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I think that it boils down to two things:
1. How long do you think we would have him for?
2. Do you expect that we will be in good enough shape to make a legitimate run at it during that timeframe?
If the answer to #2 is No, then we should NOT bother. We should get someone dirt freaking cheap to fill the spot (or keep what we have) until we are in a position where the answer to #2 will be YES for whichever big price acquisition we're talking about at that time.
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We should get someone dirt freaking cheap to fill the spot (or keep what we have)
Because I'm sure having a below average QB is going to really help our young WRs develop.
Look at what Favre did for guys like Sidney Rice and Visante Shincoe, two average players had probowl years and add what Percy Harvin and them gained from having a Pro-Bowl caliber QB and picture guys like Robiskie, Massaqua, and Harrison learning from DMac? What's wrong with that?
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I could see maybe a 3rd, 5th rounders...maybe throw in a 3rd next year too.
I wouldn't mind that.
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Receivers are going to develop at the pace they are going to develop... .the QB doesn't develop them, they develop themselves through WORK. Coaching and learning the trade is what develops them. Quality veteran receivers and good coaches is what they need.
What you are talking about is looking at how good of a season they had statistically, and yes, you need a QB for that.... but that is NOT the same thing as developing the talent.... unless you're a fan wanting your Fantasy team loaded with Home team players to do well.
What I'm saying is this: If we are at least 2 to 3 years out, and we can only get McNabb for one or two years - then what the heck would be the point in trading for a guy with a price tag like that? There would be no point at all. It'd be a waste.
Now, if we think we'd be able to make a serious run in 2 years, or 3 and we think that not only would we have McNabb still, but he'd still be playing at a high level, then yeah, ya gotta consider making the deal now.
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So Austin Collie and Peirre Garcon's success this season has NOTHING to do with Peyton Manning?
And by success I don't just mean stats, I'm talking about skills during games, and preperation for them.
If they were playing for Oakland, they'd still be playing at the same level?
Disagree+1
And if were 2-3 years away like you say, we might as well just forfit the next two seasons right? No reason to play if we know were not contending for at least 3 years.
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So Austin Collie and Peirre Garcon's success this season has NOTHING to do with Peyton Manning?
And by success I don't just mean stats, I'm talking about skills during games, and preperation for them.
If they were playing for Oakland, they'd still be playing at the same level?
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And if were 2-3 years away like you say, we might as well just forfit the next two seasons right? No reason to play if we know were not contending for at least 3 years.
When Bruce Gradkowski was here he looked absolutely pathetic. In Oakland at least he looked like a competent NFL backup QB. 
I'd take McNabb for maybe a second and a third. Heck Phillys got us over a barrel if a 2 and a 3 aren't enough I'd even part with another 2.
Namely David Viekune. He's my ace in street clothes! I'm told he's going to be great someday. I'm sure that if Heckert explained that to the Eagles they'd part with McNabb in two shakes of a lambs tail. 
I'd love to have McNabb here, but seriously I don't think he's going anywhere next year unless someone really over pays. I can see a team like the Vikes doing that, but not us, not yet. 
I think McNabb is the same age as that guy in Indy maybe we could get him for a 2. 
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So Austin Collie and Peirre Garcon's success this season has NOTHING to do with Peyton Manning?
And by success I don't just mean stats, I'm talking about skills during games, and preperation for them.
Their skills have absolutely NOTHING to do with Peyton Manning. Skills are innate or trained for. Their ability to prepare for a game has nothing to do with Peyton.
The on-field performance is what is dependent upon Peyton (or their other QBs), but their ability to perform to that level is there whether Peyton is there or not.
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Again, you seem to be confusing production with ability and learning.
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And if were 2-3 years away like you say, we might as well just forfit the next two seasons right? No reason to play if we know were not contending for at least 3 years.
If we could fast forward to a point in time where we knew we'd be competitive and in the hunt to make a run at things, we probably would.... it'd keep all our guys healthy until that point.
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The Iggles have some decisions to make and they won't be easy. McNabb still has a four to six good seasons left. I don't believe they part with Kolb or McNabb unless they get a sick offer. At least not until after this coming season as others have suggested. Vick ,on the other hand, is prime trade bait.But with Vick on the team the Iggles could afford to part with any one of their QBs for the right offer. The Iggles are in the enviable position of being the only pretty girl at the dance. Like Daman said, Heckert knows all three QBs and what is in Reid's mind. No way the Iggles can bamboozle us.  I still believe that : 1 the Browns try to move DA, but there are no takers 2. DA gets cut b/c of his outlandish contract 3. Holmgren sees enough in BQ to try to salvage him 4. a vet QB comes in as an insurance poilicy 5. a QB is drafted somewhere after the 1st round,unless Holmgren believes that Ratliff is just as good as any draftee that could be had later in the draft.
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That all still leaves it wide open to bring in Vick,....I would not be enthralled, most importantly, I don't see him as the well-groomed, fatherly, savvy veteran that can fill the void and help Quinn (assuming) along.
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So Austin Collie and Peirre Garcon's success this season has NOTHING to do with Peyton Manning?
And by success I don't just mean stats, I'm talking about skills during games, and preperation for them.
Their skills have absolutely NOTHING to do with Peyton Manning. Skills are innate or trained for. Their ability to prepare for a game has nothing to do with Peyton.
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Manning had "a lot" to do with the development of both Collie and Garcon.
Manning is like having another coach on the practice field..he knows what it takes for WRs to succeed and does everything he can to help his WRs learn their positions and perform to Manning's standards.
I heard a story during the Super Bowl week that shows the amount of influence Manning has had over the development of his WRs...
I tell a story about Peyton Manning when (Indianapolis) drafted Anthony Gonzalez and Peyton Manning drove three hours twice a week because this kid couldn't come to the OTAs (Organized Team Activities) and train because of his graduating class. He drove three hours twice a week to throw to this kid, to teach him how to be a pro, how to work. web page
The Colts two young WRs...
Austin Collie...College: Brigham Young
NFL Draft: 2009 / Round: 4 / Pick: 127
Pierre Garçon...College: Mount Union
NFL Draft: 2008 / Round: 6 / Pick: 205
Why have Garcon and Collie, a 6th round pick and a 4th round pick...outperformed the Browns two 2nd round WRs?
WRs come into the NFL with a level of skills but it's how those skills are developed that determines how successful the WR becomes. Who developers those skills?...coaches...coaches are the teachers who are supposed to develop and teach the NFL game..here in Cleveland, our WRs were taught by WR coach George McDonald.
But in Indianapolis, they have a WRs coach and a veteran QB who is willing to help develop the Colts WRs by doing a lot of extra work, that the fans never see.
In Cleveland, we have no QB to teach our young WRs...just a WRs coach. The Browns are very weak in this area, IMO, failing to do more with the talent we had, especially Robiskie. There is no doubt in my mind, if the Browns had a veteran QB, it would have helped our young WRs develop their receiving skills.
Ask yourself this...would the Browns two young WR improved and developed their skills better and faster if they played with Manning?
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When Bruce Gradkowski was here he looked absolutely pathetic. In Oakland at least he looked like a competent NFL backup QB.
Gradkowski had a full offseason in Oakland and 2 weeks in Cleveland. BIG DIFFERENCE.
I'm a big believer that our receivers are getting open but our QB isn't seeing them or getting the ball to them.
But if you want to see the difference in a great QB with a poor WR core and a great WR core, see Tom Brady circa 2006-2007.
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Eagles have no need. They have a very good nose tackle in Bunkley, and very good depth.
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QUOTE: “Every man in the world is better than someone else and not as good as someone else.” -- William Saroyan
When Mike Holmgren first went to Green Bay in 1992, the first personnel action the organization took was to make a trade for quarterback Brett Favre. Even though Favre was drafted in the second round, Packers GM Ron Wolf and Holmgren both thought enough of him to part with a first-round pick to acquire him from the Falcons. Then, when Holmgren moved to Seattle, he took some time before he made another trade for a quarterback, acquiring Matt Hasselbeck from his former team, the Packers. Hasselbeck was originally a sixth-round pick, but Holmgren was more than willing to pay a first-rounder for his rights because he knew the centerpiece of the organization had to be the quarterback. Now, with Holmgren in Cleveland and again faced with uncertainty at quarterback, the question remains: What will he do at quarterback?
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What direction will Mike Holmgren turn in order to find Cleveland's next QB?
Is the draft an option, or is making a trade? I’m not sure the draft is a viable option for the Browns, based on the talent available. With all the recent speculation, it appears that trade rumors are running rampant in Cleveland, many centering on the Philadelphia Eagles. The Birds have two quarterbacks (Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb) who may be of interest to Holmgren and his new general manager, Tom Heckert, who also came from Philadelphia. In spite of all the talk, it would be hard for me to imagine that McNabb would not agree to a contract extension to join the Browns, nor would it be hard to imagine the Browns would trade for McNabb without an extension. So that leads me to believe if the Browns have interest in an Eagles quarterback, it would have to center mostly on Kolb. Heckert loved Kolb when he was in Philadelphia, was responsible for drafting him and can accurately describe him to Holmgren with regard to work habits, character and, most important, his potential as a full-time starter.
So what’s Kolb worth? I’m sure if the Browns offered their first-round pick, the seventh overall, they would get the Eagles’ full attention. But do they have to offer that much? Better yet, is Kolb worth that much? The Eagles might say that’s not enough, but they also once said they’d never take less than a two for Lito Sheppard, so we know if the Browns offered that pick, the deal is done. I strongly doubt that will happen, but what if the Browns offered Pro Bowl nose tackle Shaun Rogers for Kolb?
Don’t laugh. This kind of deal would allow the Eagles to close the gap between them and the Cowboys. Even Eagles president Joe Banner admitted Tuesday in his talk with the team’s Web site that there’s a gap. Here’s what he said: “I don’t think the difference is as dramatic as one may think just looking at the scores of those two games, but there is a gap there. We have to figure out how to close that gap and be ready to go next year.” For me, the gap is in the Eagles defense, specifically their front seven where, other than Trent Cole, they don’t have a player who can win a one-on-one matchup against the Cowboys’ line.
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Could DT Shaun Rogers be the bargaining chip needed to pry QB Kevin Kolb from the Eagles?
Rogers would be a gap closer on the field. He would give the Eagles a dominating inside player, something they don’t currently have on their roster and someone who can match up with the Cowboys’ size along their offensive line. Rogers is signed to a long-term deal, he’s kept his weight down and he was a model citizen in Cleveland last season — all of which would be appealing to the Eagles. Kolb gives the Browns a future quarterback, something Holmgren knows he needs, without having to part with a draft pick. This trade might be a win/win for both teams.
If the Eagles add Rogers and then sign potential free agent defensive end Julius Peppers of the Panthers (they were not a final-eight team, so they can sign anyone), they would do more that close the gap on the Cowboys -- they would pass them. The Eagles will be one of the teams pursuing Peppers since his kind of game would fit perfectly with their defense and give them a blue-chip front seven player.
If the Eagles make these two moves, they’ll be a final four team next season, regardless of what they do in the draft. In fact, they can use the draft to help them find a young quarterback to replace the departed Kolb. They know they must close the gap, which is the first step.
These moves make sense to me. What do you think?
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Dont pat yourself on the back to hard. I told this to deepthreat weeks ago, cause I actually watch Eagles games. But he lives in this fantasy world where he seems to think he actually knows what front offices all around the league really feel, think and plan.
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You are gonna use Michael Lombardi to validate your opinion? The guys is a joke.
The Eagles do not need a nose tackle. They have a Pro Bowler at the position. They could use an under tackle like Corey Williams, not a nose like Rogers. Lombardi is too stupid to realize this.
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I live in no fantasy world. Unlike you, I understand the difference between the defensive tackle positions.
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Dude Ive seen you posting claiming to know what both Bellyache and The Tuna were gonna do in various past drafts, thats just the first thing that pops into my head. You remind me alot of coach B. You claim to know alot more than you actually do.
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All of that was over the internet if you looked.
Feel free to send me an email at the account seen in my profile if you question my story.
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Thats ok, Im really not so bored that Im going to go around checking on posters. Just saying my peace. Now its back off to tax time.
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I need to pat myself on the back for this one...
Why? Did they make the deal already? What did I miss?
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Nope. Just one of the least accurate sports writers out there speculating.
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A Kolb-Rogers trade with the Browns is a win for both teams.
Ammo...we agree on Rogers for Kolb...
I suggested using Rogers to help fix our need at QB and those cruising on the Rogers Love boat about had a fit that I would suggest dealing Rogers.
I still insist that Rogers does not want to be in Cleveland and now is the time to move him. As an article written in January pointed out, the defense played better after Rogers went on IR.
Kolb would make more sense for the Browns because he has learned in a system similar to the offense Holmgren ran when with Seattle. It would make sense that the Eagles decided to hang on to Mike Vick after they decided to deal Kolb (or possibly McNabb).
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Rogers for Kolb is something that I'd fully agree with.
Our 2011 1st Rnd pick for Kolb is something that I'd agree with as well.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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I don't have a problem with Rogers for Kolb straight up either. I just don't think the Eagles would do it.. Unless they suddenly don't think that Kolb will take over for McNabb.. Or they suddenly feel like they have a big need on the Dline... JMO however..
Last edited by Damanshot; 02/10/10 02:49 PM.
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