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Sure...if you have ESPN Insider. I would provide a link but it's against the rules.

Here is some stuff from National Football Post. It doesn't really add up, I'll post it in chronological order.

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John Skelton, Fordham’s standout quarterback, is a tall drink of water who can really spin the football. He throws a tight, clean spiral even when asked to drive the ball outside the numbers and displays much more polished footwork than expected, generating a lot of power from his lower half once his back foot hits the ground. He isn’t the most gifted athlete and struggles with his accuracy when asked to reset his feet and quickly realign his body into throws, but he has a good physical skill set and looks like one of the more intriguing senior quarterback prospects in the draft.


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The more I watch Fordham quarterback John Skelton, the more I become a fan of his game. There’s no denying his physical skill -- he has the strongest arm down here by far, effortlessly spinning throws outside the numbers with impressive overall zip. However, the game finally looks to be slowing down a bit for him, as he seemed more comfortable during 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills Wednesday and even led an impressive two-minute drill at the end of practice. He’s still a long way away and, like any strong-armed passer, he gets sloppy with his footwork and trusts his arm too much at times. But the fact that he’s made some strides this week makes me think there’s some significant long-term upside to his game.


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How does Fordham quarterback John Skelton handle the jump in competition? The guy has all the tools to play at the next level and seemed to get more and more comfortable as the week went on. This could be his chance to take the next step in front of NFL teams during live game action


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So according to "Link #1" he "displays much more polished footwork than expected". But in "Link #2" "he gets sloppy with his footwork and trusts his arm too much at times. But the fact that he’s made some strides this week makes me think there’s some significant long-term upside to his game." So either his footwork was expected be really, really bad, but was only horrible...or this writer doesn't know he's talking about.

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This is a cool thread. Here's my guys:

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I'd be mad if we drafted Coleman regardless of round.

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Thanks Deepthreat. I'm glad I know that dude.

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just playing devil's advocate.....

I'd rather have Mike Vick

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If tebow's there in the 3rd, do we take him? I dont care for all his dramatics... but I think he's worth a shot for a 3rd rounder.

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If tebow's there in the 3rd, do we take him?




I would gladly take him in the third. However, there is no way Jacks will pass him up in round 2.

The great thing about Tebow is that he comes with a built in fan base bigger than any college player in recent memory.

Think about it bro, the entire state of Florida would start resenting the Steelers, Bengals, and Ravens.

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Jags don't have a 2nd rounder.

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this is the first year I haven't just REALLY wanted just one person (in the late rounds that is). We all want Eric Berry, lol.


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Jags don't have a 2nd rounder.




That doesn't mean they can't get one.

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I know Eric Berry is good. You cant dispute taking him if he's available at 7. But why did Taylor Mays stock drop??? He's a lot bigger and faster. Once he does the 40 at the combine he will move way up, imo. I just really like this kid on the field. And I hate USC.

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Taylor Mays was horrible all year for USC and was horrible all week at the Senior Bowl. Also, as a starting safety for four years he only had five INT's. I think he was overrated on a defense that also had Cushing, Maualuga, Ellison, Maiava, Moala, and Harris.

With that said, I agree his stock will rise after the combine because teams will fall in love with his measurables.

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Mays was supposed to be a big hitter. - Terrelle Pryor tatooed him and so did Brandon Saine. - Mays went for a couple knockout hits and got knocked back himself.

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I'm going to be a PSU homer and suggest TE Andrew Quarless as a potential 4th/5th rounder. He seems to have put some maturity issues behind him. He has size, speed, and hands. I think he poses mismatch issues for a defense.

He's 6'5" 252 lbs. His blocking has improved as well and he had a solid week at the East/West Shrine Game.


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Taylor Mays was horrible all year for USC and was horrible all week at the Senior Bowl. Also, as a starting safety for four years he only had five INT's. I think he was overrated on a defense that also had Cushing, Maualuga, Ellison, Maiava, Moala, and Harris.

With that said, I agree his stock will rise after the combine because teams will fall in love with his measurables.




Or did Mays have a down year on a defense that lost Cushing, Maualuga, Mathews, Maiava, Moala, and Harris

How good would Troy Polamalu look without James Harrison, James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, Lamar Woodley, Ryan Clark, Casey Hampton, and Ike Taylor.

I think Mays will be a fine FS at the next level.

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I agree. And he was hurt almost all of the year.

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What's your beef with Curt Coleman bro?

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What's your beef with Curt Coleman bro?




He's not good.

Been watching him since high school.



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Great college player, but he doesn't have the size/speed combo to make in the NFL. His coverage abilities just aren't there, and he isn't big enough to be a force against the run.

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What's your beef with Curt Coleman bro?




I like Kurt Coleman a lot...but he is definately a role player in the NFL....I don't see him as a star in the making...but I see him having a solid career as a backup SS....playing in nickel and dime.....and being able to get a few games out of if injury strikes.

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Peen stole my thunder in another thread but I want to second OG John Jerry in the fifth round. I have a feeling he's going to be a solid player and a real value as a 5th round pick.

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How good would Troy Polamalu look without James Harrison, James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, Lamar Woodley, Ryan Clark, Casey Hampton, and Ike Taylor.




Hack,

Do I remember correctly that Polamalu didn't have a great rookie year & was even considered a wasted pick early on by some? Not that it really fits the thread totally, but it does serve as an example of how even the best could have some adjustment issues at this level.


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Do I remember correctly that Polamalu didn't have a great rookie year & was even considered a wasted pick early on by some?




Not sure he was ever considered a wasted pick, but his rookie season and I believe part of his second season were somewhat a problem in terms of his performance...


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Mays was supposed to be a big hitter. - Terrelle Pryor tatooed him and so did Brandon Saine. - Mays went for a couple knockout hits and got knocked back himself.



I'll never forget when Dan Herron lowered his shoulders and drove Mays to the ground when Mays was gunning for a big hit.

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Do I remember correctly that Polamalu didn't have a great rookie year & was even considered a wasted pick early on by some?




Not sure he was ever considered a wasted pick, but his rookie season and I believe part of his second season were somewhat a problem in terms of his performance...




Troy was called a bust early and often....I liked him..but I was calling to stay put and take Asomugha......Then many felt they could have not made the trade...and just taken Mike Doss later.

So Troy was blasted because he did not start for a while....but I think a lot of that was because the Steelers gave up a 1, 3 and 5 to get him...and when he did not produce right away...they thought the price was too high.

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I'll never forget when Dan Herron lowered his shoulders and drove Mays to the ground when Mays was gunning for a big hit.




Youtube is the greatest. - Mays figured he was going to get his way, Herron had other plans. - I'd say they developed a mutual respect for each other after this:


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Troy was called a bust early and often....




I didn't know that.. I spoke to relatives in the Pittsburgh and all they were saying is that he's disappointing but they thought he could come around.....


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I like Kurt Coleman a lot...but he is definately a role player in the NFL....I don't see him as a star in the making...but I see him having a solid career as a backup SS....playing in nickel and dime.....and being able to get a few games out of if injury strikes.




You're too polite. He's a backup and special teamer worth taking in the 6th or 7th round.

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Troy was called a bust early and often....




I didn't know that.. I spoke to relatives in the Pittsburgh and all they were saying is that he's disappointing but they thought he could come around.....




Keep in mind...I am referring to MB talking heads....he was never called or considered that by people in the know...or even the main stream media



I would take Kurt Coleman in the 5th...and not think twice....

I think Coleman can be better than he is...but I honestly think he won't be worse than he is.....ie...potential to be better...very little risk to be a bust.

Honestly..I think he can be a poor mans Earl Thomas....and Thomas will be taken in the first.

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Because you guys were beaten by Josh Cribbs and our practice squad, do you think Colbert and co. will focus on some special teamers this year?

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There is no way Jerry is around in the 5th round. At the National Football Post they have him ranked as the 22nd overall player in the entire draft and he had a solid Senior Bowl.

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I'm reluctant to say anything with certainty regarding guards, as they are generally unpredictable, especially this year.

I, personally have Jerry as a 4th rounder, but he could easily go as high as the 3rd, or as late as the 5th.

Just a word of advice. It's typically better to listen to websites and publications which focus exclusively on the draft. The National Football Post has an exceptionally bad reputation.

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I wouldn't mind one bit if we took Jerry and Rolle with our two 3rds or a 3rd and 4th.

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I *definitely* want Myron Rolle on this team. He's got talent, the heritage and mega-smarts - he would be a good defensive general.


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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft

I just looked at Scout's Inc top 32 draft picks and Jimmy Clausen was nowhere to be found. Bradford was ranked 11th. Has Clausen's stock dropped that much already? What's the deal? (I do not want him, but just wondering).

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I know he won't be able to throw at the combine because of the toe injury. But that's all I've heard about him.

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There is no way Jerry is around in the 5th round. At the National Football Post they have him ranked as the 22nd overall player in the entire draft and he had a solid Senior Bowl.




Hey, I am just going by what I see scouring the net. We may go to different places.


I am not a scout and don't go to private workouts.....just like everyone else around here.



If we need to select him earlier, we need to select him earlier.



I don't think he is at 22, but if you think so, well, we probably won't get him.

I just think he is a good player.....that SEC "thang"


It's a mock by people who don't know squat.....don't get so worked up.


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A lot of sites are down on him. I'm in between to be honest.

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Just a word of advice. It's typically better to listen to websites and publications which focus exclusively on the draft. The National Football Post has an exceptionally bad reputation.




You would be better off taking draft advice from a high schooler.

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