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The rules are simple. Pick one guy in the 2010 NFL draft who you think is a "Must have." Try to be realistic.

Explain in detail:

1. Players name, position, school, size
2. Positives of him
3. Negatives of him
4. What round you think he will be available
5. Post a highlight video of him if available

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Damian Williams
WR, USC
6'1, 210 LBS

Positives: Ran a west coast offense at USC. Could easily be a #1 WR. He has good agility. He has a rare big play ability in him. He's the best route runner in this year's class. Can create seperation. Very elusive and tough.


Negatives: Needs to play more physical with the ball in the air. Has had some injury problems. Average speed. Needs to get stronger.


Could be available in round 2


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Okay, I'll go with a UK guy who I think could really help this team...

1. Trevard Lindley, CB- Kentucky.... 6'0 175 lbs

2. Positives- Good speed and very good in press coverage. Quick break on the ball, and a very good tackler.

3. Negatives- Struggles against the run at times, and needs to add some weight. Bigger physical WR's like an Andre Johnson could give him trouble if he doesn't bulk up.

4. An injury in his senior season probably dropped Lindley from a Top 15 pick, to where he could be available in the 2nd round. If he's available in the 2nd, and we haven't taken Haden in the 1st, I'd love to take Lindley in the 2nd.

5. I can't find any highlight videos .



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I have been thinking about Williams a lot in round 2 also. But I don't think he'll be there........... He might be the second guy taken after Dez Bryant.

He seems like a very confident guy, and from the skills challenge i saw during superbowl week, he looked very athletic. 40 time only means so much, and he seems taller than 6'1 or at least he should be able to get some decent UPs.

He'd fit in very well here with Massaquoi and Stuckey/Robiskie in the slot.

Someone said earlier that they thought our receivers got open this year but our QB wouldn't hit them. Well I dissagree, I didn't think our receivers did a great job at getting open. And it looks like Williams might be able to get some seperation on NFL corners which is essential if you want to be an NFL receiver.


But yeah, as I said, he's probably going at the end of the 1st round or early 2nd. And this team has a lot of needs that could be filled.

Lets also remember that we're getting MoMass and Robiskie in their 2nd season + Stuckey will be here a full training camp. Whether receiver is upgraded or not in the draft, I expect to see a better performance out of this group


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Gonna go with a guy most don't know well.

Vladimir Ducasse, OT/OG Massachusetts

Strengths: Dominating run blocker; very strong; finishes blocks well
Negatives: Slow footed at tackle; raw

Round: 2nd

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Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State

Positives - Everything
Negatives - Nothing

Impact on team: Solidifies our RT position for many years. Can play LT if Thomas gets injured.

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Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State

Positives - Everything
Negatives - Nothing

Impact on team: Solidifies our RT position for many years. Can play LT if Thomas gets injured.




He has no negatives?

He struggles with speed rushers, and struggles at the 2nd level.

Those are negatives.



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Here's my guy. He's going to be a lethal change of pace guy in the NFL at RB. Perfect WCO threat. He's a highlight waiting to happen:

And here's a previous post on him concerning scouting and their sometimes wacky rankings.....

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Just a question.

How do you explain Chris Johnson, mid January, being a third or fourth rounder even after his amazing 2007 Aloha Bowl performance? He wasn't even invited to the Senior Bowl in December.

I was in attendance. I had free tix due to Hawaii not being bowl eligible and they gave plenty out to UH supporters to fill the seats.

What I saw with my own eyes was a dynamic runner. Who ran away from everyone. And he wasn't given the time of day by any scout. Once he ran his 4.24 then people poured over his tape and he was drafted in the first round. I couldn't believe that it just wasn't obvious from the start. My own opinion is that there are very few people with actual opinions and then there are sycophantic others that just echo the few.

Scouts can be awfully wrong.

Case in point this year is Dexter McCluster. Same thought too. And that was I want that guy on my team no matter the cost. Right now I look on the draft sites and all I see is how much these scouts hate the guy. Like your boy Scott Wright.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26288

What I see is a game changing player who will be one of the top 5 players from this draft.

And yet:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/WR.php

http://www.gbnreport.com/top100.html

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft

Here's every touch from the Tennessee game this year which I watched wire to wire. And it was one of the most impressive performances I've ever seen against a defense with NFL athletes. They had no chance of stopping him.



What am I missing? Tell me why Dexter McCluster's amazing skills wouldn't transcend to the NFL. And tell me why Cleveland shouldn't draft him. I've never seen such quick hip shift, coupled with immediate burst and breakaway speed.

The guy is in the SEC. For a team that was ranked in the Top 5 this year.

What am I missing?!?


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calling Ole Miss a top5 team is funny....yes, they started the year there....then everyone saw them play

that said, McCluster has a similar skillset to Steve Slaton and Reggie Bush. if he can stay healthy (always a worry with RBs big and small), then he should be a pretty good back

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I am going to start off with a RB as well.....but going to go with a lesser known we can get a little bit later


Ryan Mathews, Fresno State, RB
Height: 5-11. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.

if we can get Mathews with our second 3rd round pick or in the 4th round, he would be a steal. he is extremely explosive and has good vision with a little more size than some of the other backs.

he likely needs to work on his pass blocking and receiving as he was their 'run' RB and they had a 'pass' RB that came in on passing downs.

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/1/31/1284818/ryan-matthews-nfl-draft-scouting

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=2410


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Barry Church - Toledo - Safety

I think 4th or 5th round as a player to develop after we get Eric Berry in the 1st. Ha ha ha....ok, we're not getting Berry. But I'd like to keep Barry in the discussion as another safety, not the #1 guy drafted there but I think we need more than one anyway.


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Javarris James, running back, University of Miami, 5-11 208 lbs

Positives: Good blocker, good route runner, catches the ball well

Negatives: Not an every down back, no blazing speed

Will be available in the 4th round and possibly later

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I'll try to play:

Freddie Barnes
W.R. - Bowling Green
6' 210 lbs.

Positives: the guy can catch (something our Browns struggle to do)
Negatives: I suppose he's short, didn't play for a top tier team, is probably slow, didn't play for a top tier team, doesn't run good routes, didn't play for a top tier team, can't block, didn't play for a top tier team, etc.

Availability? Probably 4 round or lower - probably lower.

Upside? Not much money invested in a guy that can catch. (and, he played 45 miles from my house - maybe 50)

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Jimmy Graham, Miami, TE
6'8, 260

Positives- Natural athlete, good hops, shows nice hands, loads of upside
Negatives- Extremely raw, only one year of college experience

Probably can be had in the 5th.

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http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=64802&draftyear=2010&genpos=SS

Barry Church - Toledo - Safety

I think 4th or 5th round as a player to develop after we get Eric Berry in the 1st. Ha ha ha....ok, we're not getting Berry. But I'd like to keep Barry in the discussion as another safety, not the #1 guy drafted there but I think we need more than one anyway.




+1. I had Church in my mock draft...seems like a solid prospect.

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I have to pimp a Terp first...

Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland, 6'7" and 310 lbs
Positives - Amazing athlete, strong and relatively quick. Great pass blocker. Currently ranked as the #5 OT in the draft. Probably better than Jared Gaither was when he went in the supplemental draft last year.

Negatives - Has missed a few games due to injury, still developing as a run blocker, only a junior with 17 NCAA starts.

Projected in the late first, if he's there when we pick early in round 2, take him.

This is the only video I could find and it's minimal.. it's all from one game and the best part is that on about the 5th play of his highlight video he grabs a guy, drags him to the ground and gets called for holding.
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I like Campbell, but he is very raw. He is the very definition of a boom or bust pick.

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My guy is.....

Mike Johnson OG Alabama
6'6" 305lbs

Pro's- Good technique, long arms, great pass protector, above average run blocker. Extremely smart player and has experience at both tackle and guard.

Cons- isn't very agile, a bit slow and needs to hit the weight room

I watched a few games of him this year and I think he plays an integral part of Ingram's production. I especially noticed him in the championship game because I really keyed in on him. He held his ground all game long and looked to be pretty dominant. He was never pushed in the backfield and quite a few times I seen him getting to the second level clearing the way. He also seemed to be pretty good at switching off blocks and picking up the blitz.

He can be had anywhere from the 3rd round to the 4th round as it stands right now but if he really comes out and puts on a show at the combine he could go mid to late second. He's definately a guard in my mind that has a ton of upside and could turn out to be a future pro-bowler.

Oh and I forgot, the guy has never missed a game in his entire college career.

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Vladimir Ducasse, OT/OG Massachusetts

Negatives: Slow footed at tackle;




no round, no thanks.. don't like tackles with lead feet.

He's got a cool name for a lineman, though. "The Impaler".


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I want him at guard.

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Allen Bradford USC - RB, I like him a whole lot more than Joe McNight.

Positive punishing RB who spelled time with Joe McNight, I liked him better than McNight.

4th round.
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Bradford stayed at USC for his Redshirt Senior season.

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Mike Johnson looked dominant in the 3 Bama games I saw this year....VaTech, Florida and TX. If he can look dominant against those defenses, I'll take my chances on him panning out in the NFL.


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1. Zac Robinson, QB, Oklahoma St, 6'3" 218#
2. Very mobile, good arm, good accuracy
3. Had a bad senior season (some say it was an early injury), arm strength not elite, ran the spread
4. Projected round 4-6
5. Highlight video (could only find something from his 2007 season.. 08 was his best)



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I'll pimp LaGarrett Blount.

Someone is going to get a heck of a back in the 3rd round, and I would just as soon it be us.

Anybody who has played sports or posted on a sports message board can understand how emotions can sometimes cloud judgment.

Unless there is more that I am unaware of, I would take him in the top of the 3rd round.


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Someone is going to get a heck of a back in the 3rd round ...




I was going to say the same about Toby Gerhart, Stanford.

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you've got a guy who had some issues in HS and academics that caused him to go to a JUCO out of school.

then, he gets suspended from the team early in 2009 for more academic concerns along with not bothering to show up to team workouts, functions, et cetera.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2009/03/blount_reinstated_to_oregon_fo.html

finally, everyone sees the sucker punch...which I still say was not the worst part of that evening. the sucker punch is forgiveable......losing his mind, going after coaches, teammates, security and trying to get into the stands to go after fans is completely unacceptable and unforgiveable.


we do not need a player like that on our team....moot point anyway because he wouldn't last through Mangini's OTA's and Holmgren is smart enough to realize that. we will not draft Blount.


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Myron Rolle SS/FS
6'2 - 218 lbs.
He is as smart on the field as he is in the classroom, which is pretty smart. He has great instincts and always seems to be around the ball, but his best assets are a little easier to notice. Rolle, at 6-2 and 218 pounds has great size and strength. He defends the pass extremely well and has the quickness to cover the field sideline to sideline.



If he's still there in the 3rd, I would grab him QUICK!


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I doubt Rolle will be there in the 3rd.. his stock has been rising steadily since he returned to the football scene a few months ago. He came back in great shape, arguably better than when he left and based on his senior bowl practices, he didn't miss a beat.


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I don't think he'll go that high. He wasn't that great of a college player, and the only way he'll even go in the 3rd is his intangibles.

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I don't see the Bengals letting a loser like Blount make it out of the 2nd.

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I don't see the Bengals letting a loser like Blount make it out of the 2nd.




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I want him as a Brown....but I think a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder is too risky. Maybe an early 4th. I know he'll be long gone by then though. Oh well, I'm content with what we have now. Plus, we have bigger holes elsewhere on the roster.


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I've pimped an early round running back every year for the past 5 years in hopes that we'd finally address the position and this year will be no different. 2009 was Beanie Wells and LeSean McCoy, 2008 was Jonathan Stewart, 2007 was Adrian Peterson, 2006 was DeAngelo Williams and 2005 was Cadillac Williams. This year, I present to you: Jonathan Dwyer. I’ve watched some of his games, so this breakdown comes from that.

Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech - 5'11", 235 lbs.

Positives:

- Great size/speed combination with great body type
- Has the frame to hold up to an NFL punishing
- Very strong and powerful runner with well built lower body
- Solid top speed with good acceleration; able to score "home run" touchdowns
- Lowers shoulder and plows ahead in traffic, delivering quality hits to defenders and bounces off tackles well
- Doesn’t really have fumble problems aside from the goofy fumbles that come from running a triple option

Negatives:

- Comes from the triple option offense which has him playing fullback, meaning that he's very hard to project to the NFL game
- Not as good of an outside runner as he is between the tackles
- Doesn't have a lot of wiggle; he's not going to make a lot of defenders miss
- Somewhat choppy in his long stride and directional changes
- Little experience as a receiver though he seems like he has good hands when he's thrown the ball (ala Adrian Peterson)
- Little experience as a blocker because of the system he comes from

Availability:

I expect Dwyer realistically to go late 1st-early 2nd round. He has an upside of mid-1st if he knocks his combine out and a floor of late 2nd if he doesn’t. Both of those scenarios are unlikely although I expect him to run well.

Summary:

If we’re looking for a feature back in the 2nd round this year (which I am all for), my preference is Dwyer. He’s an incredibly well built power back who should be able to take hits in the NFL for years to come and he has speed that makes him a multi-dimensional threat. He would make a fantastic thunder/lightning combination with Harrison. He’ll still be 20 come draft time and his system didn’t overwork him, so there are still plenty of carries left in him.

The big problem with him is just that… his system. His system didn’t ask him to block or receive much, so to ask him to do that in our offense (which he’ll have to do to succeed) is a projection. He has the body-type to do it, but it’s difficult to determine whether he actually can. I’m not nearly as worried about him running from a standard set, as he showed he was capable of it as a freshman.

Still, that kind of uncertainty is the reason (to me) why he’s not a 1st round lock because physically he’s everything you’d want. There is definitely a bit of risk with this pick, but the upside is great - Dwyer has the potential to be a star feature back in this league. Plus, don’t forget the story of another triple option running back who was able to make the conversion: LaDainian Tomlinson.

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1. John Skelton QB, Fordham, 6'5 250lbs
2. Positives: Big/ tall quarterback. Was accurate with the throws that he was asked to make. Has a huge powerful arm. Can gain positive yards scrambing.
3. Negatives: Played in a wide open system in Division 1AA.
4. Round available: rounds 5-6
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I have actually read a lot about Skelton after his practice week at the East/West Shrine game. From what I read he had poor accuracy and very bad footwork.

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I have actually read a lot about Skelton after his practice week at the East/West Shrine game. From what I read he had poor accuracy and very bad footwork.




This is contrary to what I have read. I would love to read your information. Do you have any links?

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Ditto. And I saw the same thing in game.

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