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[The following is the press release from the Browns announcing the hiring of Gil Haskell as new president Mike Homgren’s right-hand man.] The Cleveland Browns today announced the hiring of Gil Haskell as Senior Advisor to the President. Haskell brings a wealth of experience to the Browns, having coached on both the collegiate and professional levels for more than 30 years. Most recently, he spent nine seasons with the Seattle Seahawks (2000-08), with his first seven campaigns as offensive coordinator (2000-06) and final two as assistant head coach/offensive coordinator (2007-08). In 2005, the Seahawks finished the season ranked second in total offense as they advanced to Super Bowl XL. During Haskell’s tenure in Seattle, the Seahawks captured four NFC West titles (2004-07) and advanced to the postseason five consecutive times (2003-07). Prior to joining the Seahawks, Haskell was the offensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers for two seasons (1998-99), where his offense finished the 1999 season sixth overall. He also spent six years with the Green Bay Packers, coaching both running backs (1992-94) and wide receivers (1995-97). During Haskell’s time in Green Bay, the Packers won three NFC Central titles (1995-97), made five postseason trips (1993-97), and two Super Bowl appearances (1996-97) with one Super Bowl title in 1996. Haskell entered the NFL coaching ranks in 1983, spending nine seasons with the Los Angeles Rams (1983-91), leading the special teams (1983-86), running backs (1987-90) and tight ends/special teams units (1991). As a member of the Rams’ coaching staff, the team won the NFC West title in 1985 and made two NFC Championship game appearances, in 1985 and 1989. Before joining the Rams, Haskell spent five seasons at the University of Southern California (1978-82) coaching wide receivers and special teams. In his first season at USC, the Trojans posted a 12-1 record and captured the 1978 NCAA National Championship, based on the UPI Coaches Poll. He joined the Trojans’ staff following a nine-year stint at St. Ignatius High School (1969-77) in San Francisco, Calif., where he spent his final five seasons as the team’s head coach. As a youth, Haskell spent 22 years working in a variety of roles within the San Francisco 49ers organization, as his late uncle, Dr. William O’Grady, was part owner of the team. A native of San Francisco, Haskell and his wife, Nancy, have four grown daughters, Paula, Patty, Jenny and Julie. http://cle.scout.com/2/945467.html
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Isn't this just a title promotion as he was already hired as advisor? I guess if we knew how much he was getting paid we'd have a better idea at how much influence he has. Holmgren seems to have hired a lot of help.........
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Isn't this just a title promotion as he was already hired as advisor?
I think that the PD just wrote about it before the Browns were ready to give a press release..
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Yeah. .. one step closer to having Daboll learn a new system, or having an OC replacement in waiting
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Yeah. .. one step closer to having Daboll learn a new system, or having an OC replacement in waiting
Maybe.. that might be the plan. My guess is that daboll impressed Holmgren enough for MK to think a he just needed help, maybe a tutor. I guess we'll find out as time goes on.
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Yeah. .. one step closer to having Daboll learn a new system, or having an OC replacement in waiting
It is what it is...Haskell knows the WCO ..he is a advisor.....the chain of command is widening..but still with MH as the focal point..I'm sure he'll be spending time with Dumboll..now it should be clear that both Mangini/Dumboll are going to be handed the help they need to succeed..if they don't..there won't be any excuses or any doubt as to why they were replaced...
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what needs done is having schemes designed to suit the skills of the players,not vice versa
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what needs done is having schemes designed to suit the skills of the players,not vice versa
Aw yes,the Holy Grail of coaching.
Since the discussion was about Daboll,exactly what skills where present,and not used,on the O side?
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what needs done is having schemes designed to suit the skills of the players,not vice versa
Exactly what is the skillset of our offensive players?
U sound like the offense is complete.
It lacks 3-4 playmakers and two solid linemen.
A WCO offense can be schemed with a QB/RB/WR brought in to run along with the existing pieces..
Whatever the heck was being run last year was basic stuff considering the Browns were unable to pass the ball ,just run it...thats not a scheme.
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Yeah. .. one step closer to having Daboll learn a new system, or having an OC replacement in waiting
I don't know.
I think Haskell may learn this system, then work to help clean up the playbook a bit.
Any system can work. A new set of experienced eyes may see some plays that just won't work as drawn...or move a X here, a X there, get rid of this page, add these 3-4 plays....that sort of thing.
But I agree....he may be the insurance policy.
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There shouldn't be much guesswork as to what's going on here.
All we've done since the day Holmgren was hired is bring in people who are WCO-oriented. Haskell is another of the WCO guru's who is old enough to be Daboll's grandfather, so I hardly think it's Haskell who is going to adapt to Daboll's system, hehe. Hell, Haskell was working WCO systems with Holmgren before Daboll was even in professional football.
I think we can safely assume which guy is going to adapt to the other. 
Haskell has come out of retirement to "advise" this offense of what the WCO is all about. Should Daboll prove unworthy, well, Haskell can slide right in, put on the headset, and flawlessly run the system.
Looks like I won't have to change my name to CoachBII afterall. 
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Or,
it could just be that all we've done is hire people Holmgren has worked with and he is familiar with.Those hires being associated with the WCO might be nothing more than thier having worked with Mike.
The odds don't favor that assumption,but your in lust for the WCO,they can't be over looked.
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Me running around with a WCO-boner can't change the facts that all we've done since Homgren got here is hire WCO guys.  I believe to even consider we'd take all those people who've founded their entire professional careers in the WCO and choose to follow another system is beyond insane.
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Holmgren is putting his stamp on every area of this organization... I see no reason to believe that eventually, we won't switch to the WCO... Keeping in mind that there is more than one system that works..
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It's not about how many systems work, D, it's about taking the combined experiences of all the people who are here and applying that experience and knowledge in the best way.
That means it doesn't make sense for all these people to have built their professional reputations on one system then come here as a collective and go in a direction which they aren't as well-versed in.
I'm not debating the validity of other systems. I'm questioning the wisdom of bringing in another system when all these guys haven't use other systems.
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it could just be that all we've done is hire people Holmgren has worked with and he is familiar with.Those hires being associated with the WCO might be nothing more than thier having worked with Mike.
The odds don't favor that assumption,but your in lust for the WCO,they can't be over looked.
I agree BC. Holmgren is bringing in guys he knows their skills in football knowledge. He has said since day 1 that he wants everyone to work together. Not my way. Not your way. Everyone putting their knowledge together, see what works, and putting the best product on the field. Ive always thought that Daboll ran more of a WCO than a typical dropback offense anyways. I thought Daboll was horrible but he was a first time OC and I thought he has shown improvement as the season moved forward. Although against a tough defense, he would quit using play action. Instead of trying to use it to slow down a blitz, it was like he didnt trust the players, to give the play time, to use play action against a tough attacking defense.
Proof that Holmgren isnt just bringing in WCO FO personnel because thats what he knows and he wants things done his way. Is that Holmgren has never ran the the 3-4. Holmgren isnt bringing in 4-3 guys to run his defense. Hes bringing in guys he knows are true proffesionals and what they bring to the table. Guys that can work together. Hes not running the team as "This is how I operate" Hes getting all these football minds together to work as a team. Putting all the ideas into a basket and as a team, put them together, help the current coaches with practice and game preparation methods.
If Holmgren is coming in to have everyone running strictly the WCO, at least we can have a breath of fresh air and know that he wont be bringing in Jason Campbell. Zorn runs a WCO and JC looked like he had his worst year. Not saying its his worst year stat wise but he didnt move the offense well at all. With his slow feet, lack of quick decision making, and slow release he is more of a drop back passer. I cant believe people want to give up on Quinn after 3 years and bring in someone like JC who hasnt proven he can be "the guy" after 5 years. There are 5 FA QBs Id look at before I bring in JC and I highly doubt JC is anywhere close to Holmgrens, Haskell or Heckerts radar.
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This may very well be the 1st time you and I have agreed on anything outside of your user name.
I can only wish I had the wherewithall to read and grasp your entire post,but,I must confess those cajun martinis are not only delicious,but mind altering as well.
So,if you've praised me in the body of your post,I thank you and apologize for being incoherent.I promise you that on a better day I shall return your graciousness.
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cajun martinis are not only delicious,
You might need to come off the formula.
I envision pepper vodka with a dash of Tabasco, and maybe a pickled okra as the garnish.
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