from what i have watched of him, if he gets hot from the perimeter, the cavs are just about unstoppable. if you have to send more than one guy at jamison, with lebron, shaq, etc also on the floor, you're finished.
i know there is a lot of talk about z maybe going elsewhere, , for all the talk about how z has done great things for the city for the cavs, but honestly, the cavs have done a hell of a lot more for z, about 110m over the years, they were patient with his injuries, they stood by him.
i don't think he holds a grudge, i think he may be a little upset, but dude is coming back.
I also think that Z will keep himself in shape ...... but that a 30+ day layoff might actually benefit him. I think he'll come back with fresher legs for the playoffs.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Quote: I also think that Z will keep himself in shape ...... but that a 30+ day layoff might actually benefit him. I think he'll come back with fresher legs for the playoffs.
it took him quite awhile this year to adjust to coming off the bench because of how he needs to warm himself up......
we could be in for another adjustment period when (if) he comes back....
I still want him back though....he's suffered with us, I want him to celebrate with us as well.
1. Washington made the trade for cap space. So we know they want to unload him and we know Z is going to ask for a buy-out ASAP.
2. I can't imagine Z wanting to play for anyone other than a contender so that limits the field pretty quick for teams that want him.
3. I can't imagine Z wanting to uproot his family for to play for only another year or two. Remember he did say this was probably his last year, although he did say last month he has some basketball left in him. Either way, why play for Dallas or Denver and move there for only a year and do it all again (and possibly get traded again)?
4. If the Cavs indeed want him back, he should know he would be a huge hero in this town. He has taken an ego bullet for this team already in going to the bench without a peep and this would display the ultimate in being a team player.
5. We know this trade doesn't happen without LBJ on board and LBJ and Z are close. LBJ can get Z back here, if the Cavs indeed want him back.
I say Z comes back and considers that the Cavs and he are square for all the dollars they paid him with broken feet...maybe that they even owe him one. He might not be the same guy and might be a little "its just business" jaded, but I say he comes back for two things. The Ring and the fans....not out of love for the Cavs or for Mike Brown. I do believe he loves the fans and the community
I bought tix for the game on March 21 on a bet he comes back. It will be his first home game back.
Not to mention that if Z doesn't come back, the MVPuppets ads go right down the drain ........
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
ESPN's website has it just about official that the Rockets are acquiring Kevin Martin from Sacramento. They give up Landry, McGrady and some picks in the deal. Not bad for Houston. They have a couple good young core pieces there with Brooks, Ariza, Martin, and Scola and if Yao somehow comes back healthy again. I think offensively with Rick Adelman they can have some serious success on offense. The West is pretty freaking deep.
Politicians are puppets, y'all. Let's get Geppetto!
Me too. My 13 year old son is devastated that they traded Z.. he loves Lebron but Z is his "favorite player".. the poor kid was almost in tears. I remember getting that emotional about stuff like this before I became old enough to start understanding the business side of things...
Quote: Guys I think we might have TOO MUCH depth. We have 3 capable guys at PF and C each. We might have to much JJ
Mo / Delonte / Boobie AP / Moon LeBron / JJ AJ / Andy / Powe Shaq / Andy / Z ( if we get him back
I want problems like this. I believe someone posted earlier that different ways we can match up. This team can be a transformer. If can go big, it can go small, it can go fast, it can go slow. It can flat out match up. But if Shaq gets banged up...
no problem. and looks like the Kevin Martin trade is going to be the last big one (a bunch of luxury tax slashing trades always likely for the last day with end of bench players).
good for Cavs that Boston, Orlando, Atlanta, LA, Utah, and Denver really didn't do anything to improve (nate robinson is an improvement, but not much since Rondo plays 35+ minutes a game in the playoffs)
I was trying some scenarios in the trade machine. I can get some to work, but I can't get anything that doesn't help Utah offset the huge impact of losing Boozer.
the knicks were able to land t-mac, although they had to give up quite a bit.
they will probably be able to land 2 max deals, however, it is going to be a complete rebuild. i wonder if they even get a top flite player.
chicago solidified themselves possibly 2 spots as well. they have a slightly better situation although they could be going through a coaching change which will drive away guys. they are targeting wade though.
i honestly would not be surprised if lebron, wade, and even bosh all re-sign with their teams.
for as much as bosh seemed like a goner, toronto has played better, the turkoglu signing took some time, and colangelo has showed he can get a team competitive, i don't think it's a foregone conclusion he leaves. and remember, bottom line, bosh gets the most $$$ from toronto.
I've been thinking the same thing all along. The media hype storm is a story fabrication and I doubt any player ends up leaving. In the end money talks. Also why would a player like LBJ want to go to a team that is willing to sacrifice 3 seasons in hopes of landing a good FA?!?! Does that not make sense to anyone else or is it just me? Windy as been saying all along he thinks LBJ signs a 3 yr extension to keep pressure on the Cavs to stay competitive.
"The medium for the bad news was ESPN, which figured. The network represents much of what is loud, obnoxious and empty in sports today."
who would have thought 12 months ago the most likely to leave their team would be Wade?
he basically has nothing with him in Miami (unless you count Beasely), while Chicago has Rose (and Deng and Noah) and the Knicks could potentially sign another max guy with him.
LeBron would be leaving a championship contender for a rebuild? unlikely.
Bosh would be leaving a up-and-coming team with a solid GM for a rebuild? possibly, but Toronto has more talent than other places, he's the star of that team, and he'll make more $$$ there.
for all the talking bspn does, it's lebron's team that has been the best in recent memory.
and they'll combat that with "well no, his team isn't that good, lebron is just that good"
which is pure crap, and all of you know this, and all of you have seen lebron get doubled and tripled, and having the entire side of the floor sagged his way because of bad teammates. well we're 2 years removed from those days.
they're afraid to admit it. the money is in cleveland, the possibilities of the rings are in cleveland, the entire idea of needing to be in a big city to market yourself is a thing of the past.
oh yeah, and i think dan gilbert may have solidified himself as the best owner in the nba after yesterday. so add that to the list of reasons.
and after watching his gm take another team to the woodshed (what is this, now 3 times?) why would you leave, when you have that much faith in a guy to keep this going? imagine what ferry could do if he had a commitment from lbj to stick around?
Quote: All of you have seen lebron get doubled and tripled, and having the entire side of the floor sagged his way because of bad teammates. well we're 2 years removed from those days.
THANK GOD!!!!
Quote: they're afraid to admit it. the money is in cleveland, the possibilities of the rings are in cleveland, the entire idea of needing to be in a big city to market yourself is a thing of the past.
oh yeah, and i think dan gilbert may have solidified himself as the best owner in the nba after yesterday. so add that to the list of reasons.
and after watching his gm take another team to the woodshed (what is this, now 3 times?) why would you leave, when you have that much faith in a guy to keep this going? imagine what ferry could do if he had a commitment from lbj to stick around?
YEP! BSPN is a hype machine trying to sell advertisments. Granted I like the network and check out the website/sportscenter but one has to remember its in their interest to create stories, specifically one as big as LBJ going to a major market. Apparently ppl havent learned from the likes of Tim Duncan that you dont have to live in NY/Bos/LA to be relevant.
Also combo of Ferry/Gilbert is amazing. A great GM with an NBA mind and an owner backing him up is as important as anything in the NBA. We're really lucky to have an owner willing to pay the Lux Tax, really lucky. Look at Denver, with their opwner being top 5 richest men in the US, and he refuses to go into the LuxTax, the fact that Gilbert is makes us really fortunate.
"The medium for the bad news was ESPN, which figured. The network represents much of what is loud, obnoxious and empty in sports today."
Quote: and they'll combat that with "well no, his team isn't that good, lebron is just that good"
which is pure crap, and all of you know this, and all of you have seen lebron get doubled and tripled, and having the entire side of the floor sagged his way because of bad teammates. well we're 2 years removed from those days.
if it was Lebron then other talented NBA teams would figure out a way to stop him.. or at least slow him down to the point where they didn't have the best record in the NBA, going on 2 seasons in a row. You can be good with one player, as the Cavs showed a few years back, but to win that many games, you have to be getting help from somewhere.
Quote: and they'll combat that with "well no, his team isn't that good, lebron is just that good"
which is pure crap, and all of you know this, and all of you have seen lebron get doubled and tripled, and having the entire side of the floor sagged his way because of bad teammates. well we're 2 years removed from those days.
if it was Lebron then other talented NBA teams would figure out a way to stop him.. or at least slow him down to the point where they didn't have the best record in the NBA, going on 2 seasons in a row. You can be good with one player, as the Cavs showed a few years back, but to win that many games, you have to be getting help from somewhere.
lebron's great, but even he can't do anything when he's being swarmed like he used to.
seriously, can anyone remember the last time he was swarmed like he was in the detroit (first one) and spurs series'? it's been forever.
maybe boston a little bit?
but really, it's been nice. lbj has room to do more things and his teammates knock down shots. and if you think about it, it might be hard for another star player who plays the 2 or 3 to succeed in our system. lebron dominates the ball so much. that's why i don't think he and wade would be a good mix.
Quote: No other Z trade happened that I have seen, thus he's still a wiz.
yes, but sometimes these things surface later on. a deal could have gotten in before the deadline and just not reported, it has happened before, but i admit it is a good sign we havent heard anything. i want the guy back.
As far as I know the trade deadline has come and gone and no deal was able to come about...so we are still on track to possibly get Z back in 30 days...Dallas or some other team may be able to mess that up...but more than likely we get Z back in 30...
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
What's the use of wearing your lucky rocketship underpants if nobody wants to see them????
Quote: imagine what ferry could do if he had a commitment from lbj to stick around?
Actually, I think that it may hinder him in some respects - at least in terms of the bigger names (for right now).
Every team that doesn't have a LBJ, Wade, Bosh, etc... is clearing space to get a marquee free agent this summer, and LBJ is the biggest fish in that tank. When he is pulled from that tank, there will be an instantaneous and drastic cascading effect. Teams like MIA & TOR will be under even more pressure to resign their guys as they are now the biggest fish. Someone will panic and throw around a stupidly huge contract to somebody and I think it would all just start a run, clearing the mega-talent from this summer's free agent class.
AFTER this summer (or in the midst of the free agency)? Oh yeah, no doubt that with LBJ locked up, he will be able lure the heck outta players to come here. I would not be surprised at all if LBJ waits until we've lured someone here before he actually signs.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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