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Haters gonna hate, but God's Grandson ain't gonna let you hate much longer... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4935351Tebow to unveil new delivery at pro day Comment Email Print Share By Adam Schefter ESPN Archive One of the most celebrated players in college football history is, essentially, painting over the masterpiece he created at the University of Florida. In an effort to quiet his critics and refine his game, former Gators quarterback Tim Tebow is changing the way he holds a football, shifting it from his waist to his shoulder. He is concentrating on taking three- and five-step drops instead of working out of the shotgun formation he did at Florida. He will not unveil Tebow 2.0 at this week's scouting combine in Indianapolis, preferring instead to wait for his pro day at the University of Florida on March 17. Cliff Welch/Icon SMI Tim Tebow, throwing a pass in Senior Bowl practice last month, hopes to improve his draft stock with a new approach that includes drop-back passing. But until then, he will continue working on improving his fundamentals in an effort to improve his draft position and his game. "I'm not changing who I am or how I approach football," Tebow said Sunday night from Nashville, Tenn., where he has been busy remaking the style that was good enough to win one Heisman Trophy and two national championships at Florida. "But there are things that I can get a lot better at -- my fundamentals. I've never been asked to shorten or quicken my release and not have a loop in it. The changes I'm making have gone very well and it's becoming more and more natural to me." Asked if he would have embarked on such an extensive and exhausting process had his performance at the Senior Bowl not been so roundly criticized, Tebow said: "Probably, just because of the quarterback coaches I've been working with. I want to get better. I want to be around people who will push me. I will do anything to get better. Without hearing the criticism, I would have done it. "It's made me more confident, more accurate. And that's not to say I haven't had this type of coaching in the past. I just have had different coaching than this NFL style." Working with a coaching team that includes former NFL offensive coordinator Zeke Bratkowski, Montreal Alouettes head coach Marc Trestman, Arizona State's new offensive coordinator Noel Mazzone and former NFL head coach Sam Wyche, Tebow has been tutored in a pro-style way. Bratkowski has concentrated on getting Tebow to raise the football to where it now does not dip lower than his shoulder. The delivery that allowed Tebow to complete over 67 percent of his passes at Florida but the one that also was roundly questioned during and after the Senior Bowl has begun to be made over at the pre-draft workouts in Nashville. Much of the work has started with Tebow's feet, which were used to working out of a shotgun offense. Now Bratkowski and others have drilled Tebow on the requisite footwork that he will need to become a successful NFL quarterback. “ You're not looking at the same quarterback. To say we're there 100 percent where we want to be, no. But we'll be more improved come pro day. ” -- Former NFL offensive coordinator Zeke Bratkowski, part of the coaching team tutoring Tim Tebow Anyone who has seen Tebow has noticed the difference -- already. "You're not looking at the same quarterback," said Bratkowski, who has worked with quarterbacks such as San Diego's Philip Rivers, Philadelphia's Michael Vick and Boomer Esiason. "To say we're there 100 percent where we want to be, no. But we'll be more improved come pro day than we are at this point in time now." Tebow still will attend this week's combine, go through his medical tests, meet with coaches, and do everything but throw. Then he will return to Gainesville to further work on upgrading his fundamentals with Bratkowski and others so that Tebow will not revert back to his old ways during his upcoming workouts. "That's the reason we're trying to rep it and rep it and rep it," Bratkowski said. But those reps apparently have paid off already. Those that have seen Tebow's new delivery believe it is noticeably quicker. "The ball is coming out a lot faster now," Trestman said. Yet what most impressed Trestman about Tebow was not the quarterback's adaptability but his mental capacity. "His intelligence level is as high as any quarterback I've encountered coming out of college," Trestman said. "His intelligence is off the charts. After spending time with Tim, it was evident that he learned a lot of football in his four years at Florida -- a lot. "As a result he has been able to quickly adapt and make corrections in his throwing motion and footwork that will allow him to get the ball out faster and improve his accuracy. He has more than enough arm strength and shown he can make all the throws at the next level. He has only been at it for a few weeks so I can only anticipate he will continue to improve." Tebow's intelligence has manifested itself at workouts in which Bratkowski said the coaches learn more from Tebow than he learns from them. His intelligence has enabled him to grasp what the coaches are trying to teach. Many, including ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay, questioned how Tebow's delivery would translate at the NFL level. Yet rather than wait to find out, Tebow decided to change it and make it more efficient. Other quarterbacks have tried a similar approach, achieving mixed results. From the time he left Tennessee and arrived in Indianapolis, quarterback Peyton Manning changed and perfected his delivery. Former No. 1 overall pick David Carr once changed his, but never managed to make it consistently work. Other high-profile athletes in other sports have changed their game, as well. Through the years, Tiger Woods has changed his golf swing on multiple occasions. Now Tebow is waging a similar battle, trying to upgrade his fundamentals in time for his NFL pro day, so teams can be impressed enough with him to draft him higher than they currently have him slotted. "Things like this are challenges for him," Bratkowski said. "He doesn't have rabbit ears, but he knows what people are saying and he hears it -- and that motivates him. He is working hard to make sure what he is doing now is something he can showcase later." Tebow does not plan to wait long. "I've done this several thousand times," Tebow said. "With continued work, I will have this down pat by minicamp. It will be like second nature. It's not like it feels awkward to me now. I'm excited about the changes I've made." Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider.
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Color me skeptical...................
If it's so second-nature he should throw at the combine.
Finally, I'm convinced that throwing motion is less about being "natural" and more about generating the power in his throws. I think he's going to lose some of what I already considered to be a very average arm.
I think he's still going to be drafted as a Wildcat guy, not as a future starter.
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Well thank god he is spending a few months learning a new throwing motion in which most QBs spend their ENTIRE life learning/using/improving.
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That's the thing. It can work great in drills without real bullets firing, but when the pressure is on, he's going to revert to his instinctual release, and that ball is going to drop below his waist. That's going to cause him to lack consistency.
In the long run if he really does want to be a QB, this is something that he must do.........and honestly, should have been done immediately after his college career was over. But this won't change the fact that it's going to be a long, up-hill battle for him.
On a side note, I'm throwing the BS flag at anyone who is critical of Meyer for not changing Tebow's mechanics in college. People like PFT's Flores are bashing him because he says not changing Tebow's motion DOES hurt Meyer because it won't draw the big name recruits.
Bullcrap. 
Meyer won a National Championship with a freshman Tebow being a bit-player, and taking that one step further, he landed Tebow without having won anything at Florida.
I don't blame Meyer one bit. He has one job: Win a COLLEGE CHAMPIONSHIP, not develop NFL QB's. If he keeps winning he's going to draw the greatest players, and in the end that's all that really counts.
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After the unveling, Tebow will feed every single person in attendance w/ just 5 hotdogs and 2 regular sized nachos.
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Come on now, 3rd rounders dont get THAT big of a contract 
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On a side note, I'm throwing the BS flag at anyone who is critical of Meyer for not changing Tebow's mechanics in college. People like PFT's Flores are bashing him because he says not changing Tebow's motion DOES hurt Meyer because it won't draw the big name recruits.
Bullcrap.
Meyer will continue to draw big name recruits, however big name quarterbacks is a different story. Tebow's draft position will have some influence on big time high school qb's that are debating between Florida and any other school. - The same goes for Terrelle Pryor and Ohio State's qb recruiting prowess.
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Meyer won a National Championship with a freshman Tebow being a bit-player, and taking that one step further, he landed Tebow without having won anything at Florida.
Agreed 100%. To touch on that, Chris Leak qb'd Florida to the title in '06, look where he is now, and look where his counterpart in the the National Title game is. - Again, if I'm a top notch high school qb, this is the sort of info that I'm paying attention to.
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I don't blame Meyer one bit. He has one job: Win a COLLEGE CHAMPIONSHIP, not develop NFL QB's. If he keeps winning he's going to draw the greatest players, and in the end that's all that really counts.
I agree that Meyer's job is to win titles, and I think he does a great job. However, I disagree that titles=recruits for two reasons. - Schools like Florida, and any other big time college football school are always going to draw great players. - Whether Meyer is there or not, or whether Meyer wins or not, Florida will draw top notch talent. Also, I feel that players coming out of high school take a look at the recruiting classes ahead of them and take into account when the earliest possibility for them to see the field will be. - In that respect recruiting is cyclical between programs, and is not determined solely by who wins titles.
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said it before,, I'll say it again.. I'd not be one bit suprised to see Tebow go in the first round.. Somebody will fall in love with him and that's that. JMO however.
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said it before,, I'll say it again.. I'd not be one bit suprised to see Tebow go in the first round.. Somebody will fall in love with him and that's that. JMO however.
I'm picturing Ammo being the GM of the Rams right now. 
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well, if he would turn the water into wine perhaps all the scouts will get drunk enough to want to draft him in the 1st round. Otherwise........ 
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said it before,, I'll say it again.. I'd not be one bit suprised to see Tebow go in the first round.. Somebody will fall in love with him and that's that. JMO however.
I've been saying the same thing. No way he falls out of the first.
And don't get on him for not throwing at the combine. Just add him to the list. Bradford, Clausen, LeFevour all aren't throwing at the combine.
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Tebow will probably be a success in the nfl, and at the qb position that is enough for any first round pick.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns take him at 7, and not unhappy with the pick.
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Somebody will fall in love with him and that's that
other than Peen and Ammo?
I say mid- third at the soonest.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns take him at 7, and not unhappy with the pick.
Wait, wait, wait. You wouldn't be surprised if we took him at 7. I think you are the only one in the world that wouldn't be surprised if we took Tebow #7. And you wouldn't be unhappy with that pick? Crazy talk. I for one would be thoroughly pissed if we took him at #7 and I'm sure most everyone else on this board would be too.
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I hope he meant like 7th pick in the 4th round.
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Did he land a job with Fed-Ex or something?
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Just depends what you consider big name college recruits.
Don't worry, Fla will be able to have a good qb no matter what you might think.
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in JAX he might be able to turn empty seats into seats with butts on top of them......
other than them (and most likely trading into the 20s to do so), I don't see anyone even thinking about using a 1st round pick on Tebow.
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I agree completely with what Toad said, minus one thing. I do think that he will be drafted as a developmental QB, and it will be in the first, or most likely 2nd round.
In the short term, he will be a wildcat guy, but in the future, a team will hope that he can be their QB.
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Wait, wait, wait. You wouldn't be surprised if we took him at 7. I think you are the only one in the world that wouldn't be surprised if we took Tebow #7. And you wouldn't be unhappy with that pick? Crazy talk. I for one would be thoroughly pissed if we took him at #7 and I'm sure most everyone else on this board would be too.
I AM NOT SAYING THIS WILL HAPPEN...But....
we have a guy at the top of the Browns that clearly understands the QB position.., I don't think anyone could or would question that..
So what if that guy says,, TEBOW is our guy..
On one hand we have you and many others wanna be GM's saying NO to Tebow,,
if we take Tebow in the first... then what?
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There's no need to mention it. It won't happen.
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1st round? Maybe. 2nd round is where I feel he will go. - Jacks will trade up to get him here.
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There's no need to mention it. It won't happen.
Agreed. I am 100% sure the Browns will not take Tebow with the 7th pick in the draft.
2nd or 3rd round? - Maybe.
Has Holmgren ever drafted a qb in the first round? I don't believe so.
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No, he has not. But he has traded high picks for QB's, so it is possible that we will take one.
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Working with a coaching team that includes former NFL offensive coordinator Zeke Bratkowski, Montreal Alouettes head coach Marc Trestman, Arizona State's new offensive coordinator Noel Mazzone and former NFL head coach Sam Wyche, Tebow has been tutored in a pro-style way.
Actually, that's a pretty impressive group for a college kid to learn from.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns take him at 7, and not unhappy with the pick.
Okay, not even Ammo, Peen or God himself would go that extreme. 
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There's no need to mention it. It won't happen.
I don't think so either,, But what if?
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I don't think so either,, But what if?
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LOL Ok so if we draft him in the first, you are saying you know more than Holmgren 
Look you all know I'm joking around with this, I don't believe we'll take tebow at all let alone in the first.. Just asking if you all would still feel the same about Holmgren if we did....
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What if we decide to pass on all of our picks and never turn in the card?
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I agree completely with what Toad said, minus one thing. I do think that he will be drafted as a developmental QB, and it will be in the first, or most likely 2nd round.
In the short term, he will be a wildcat guy, but in the future, a team will hope that he can be their QB.
I agree....and I have a feeling Holmgren, Heckert and Mangini are going to love the guy.
I could see him as our 2nd round pick.
Changing where you hold the ball isn't the same as changing how you throw the ball.....and foot work under center...easy stuff....the hard stuff is what Tebow has.
We could win championships with the kid....winners are winners.
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It isn't easy stuff, and he is a huge project.
I don't think we will take him in the 2nd, but if he is somehow there in the 3rd, that is very possible.
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Actually, that's a pretty impressive group for a college kid to learn from.
I agree.
The kid is sharp enough to know to not let the 3 stooges teach him.
All homerisim aside....he is going to be a Superbowl MVP.....ok....if not, he is a guy you think should have been......like ring on finger and a great game under the belt.
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It isn't easy stuff, and he is a huge project.
I don't think we will take him in the 2nd, but if he is somehow there in the 3rd, that is very possible.
Now you are sounding like Mike Mayock....dropping back isn't hard.....jeesh.
Getting the ball where it needs to be is...
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Dropping back isn't hard? No, it isn't. But it is hard to drop back, and not lose sight of players while keeping track of your reads. There's a reason it takes spread QB's so long to adjust. The reason is dropping back and reading defenses.
Tebow also has the mechanics issue.
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You are a clever guy. Find a play that didn't work.....though under pressure....are you trying to prove a point or just show you can find a QB being intercepted??? I'll bet you can find any QB being intercepted if you look around. Shoot, Peyton was picked for a TD to seal the game a couple of weeks ago....I guess he sucks if we go by your neonate mentality. 
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j/c...
I just hope that if he somehow winds up here that we've made sure he can handle snaps under center beforehand. He wouldn't be taking a knee here in Cleveland nearly as much as he did down in Gainesville.
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I was right about Reggie Bush when everyone was saying he wouldn't be successful in the NFL. So, I'm going to give my opinion again. Tebow will be the best QB to come out of the draft this year.
I also love how everyone said BQ's game would translate "very well" to the NFL game...we all have seen how that's worked out.
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