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New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure his contract and will be released this week, sources told ESPN on Saturday.
Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million base salary in 2010.
Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets, rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago Bears.
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Of the three veteran RB's that have been released (Tomlinson, Westbrook, and Jones) I like Jones the most as a player. I also think Jones is the most likely to go to the Browns.
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Jones is definitely a guy I would like to see come here. He's another "smaller" back .... but extremely productive. He's been a solid receiver over the years as well.
The only thing that might be a holdup is having 2 "undersized" guys.
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I have to say I love what the guy is as a player. Hard work and dedication. He's not the biggest playing around 212, but he runs real tough and physical. My only thing here is the age. How much is left on the freaking tires? He's 31 I believe. At RB, this is old. Fact. If he can produce at the level he has the past six years of his career he's the ideal compliment to Harrison and I have to say I wouldn't be too disappointed with that being our combo next season. I've an open mind but just make sure that price is right and we get some productivity from him.
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Bring him in... even though he's over 30 i think he can still be productive sharing time with Harrison for a year or 2.
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Not a lot to dislike about Jones,, Age maybe,, but still productive.
My issue is I think if we are going to add a back, I'd rather it be a big bruiser type.. JMO
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would rather roll with jennings and davis. more explosive, younger legs.
he didn't appreciate losing carries to benson i '06, so he may not like his role here.
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He's not worth the roughly 6 million he's set to receive and somehow I don't think he's going to want to take less with us and not take less from the Jets, a contender.
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I would rather see the younger RB`s myself... Bringing in guys like this is to much like signing J Lewis..Having a good year or 2 then being gone....I think that could keep us from seeing what the younger legs could do..But that would be up to how the coaches play the backs..
A big smash mouth back is my hopes for this team... at a young age to add to that....
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i know we really haven't seen him on the field.. but Davis can do everything that Thomas Jones can..
We need to give the players we have a chance..
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I agree, we don't need him. I'd much rather keep what we have and improve our OL.
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I agree, we don't need him. I'd much rather keep what we have and improve our OL.
I'm one of those guys that is torn on my feelings of Thomas Jones.
The guy is good, always been rediculously underrated IMO. He also was the Jets rushing attack this year, one of the best in the NFL (best if I remember correctly).
I'd consider signing him to a one year contract but nothing longer than that. Old running backs decline quickly, and Jones, who wasn't given a chance in the beginning of his career, is beginning to rack up those carries. I think he might have one more good season in him, so I wouldn't be suprised if Mangini lobbied for us to pick him up.
But I could also see the reasons to stay with what we have/checkout someone else. But I will say I'd rather have Jones than Westbrook/LT. Then again I'm from NY, and my two fav RBs ever are probably Curtis Martin (when there were no Browns I went for Parcell's Jets) and Tiki Barber
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I'd rather we see what we have in our RBs. We're not going to contend this year or next, and having Jones here for the next 2 years will just be a waste of space/money and will get in the way of us seeing what our guys have.
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I don't want anymore aging RBs. We have a decent staple of backs right now, draft a bigger type guy and go from there. We need to start building with younger players, ones that if they pan out can produce for the team for years. No more retreads for me. We need young talent to build for the future. Bringing in a guy like Jones sets back the development of the younger guys. The mentoring thing IMO is very overrated. That's what coaches are for.
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got to agree with you. Other than Green/Suggs we have had one RB on the downside of their career after another. I could see Jones being just another Ruben/Lewis coming here having a big year, signing a big contract extension then sliding into the abyss.
Keep the three that we have maybe add another in the draft and lets move on with the development of a playoff team.
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My 1st choice to upgrade our running back situation would be to draft one of the big backs coming out of college. This years draft is deep and talented at Rb. A good one can be had in round 4 possibly round 5.
If we decide to go FA Rb my preference would be Mike Bell. Recently released from N.O. He is a strong powerful runner. Not that old (27) and he could come in and be relied upon right away. Some rookies may need to earn that trust. He will also be a fair bit cheaper than Jones, LT or Westbrook and at this point in their careers he will probably be more productive over the next 3 years.
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Another possibility if we go FA is LenDale White. A bigger back (although he has lost alot of weight!)
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I really hope we dont go after an againg vet at the RB position. I think we have learned our lesson Droughns and Lewis. Let the guys play. Need to know what we have in Harrison and Davis. Jones would only get in the way.
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i like thomas jones a lot....but, i think we have better ways to spend our $$$ right now.
get some young legs at RB and let TJ go to a team working on a superbowl possibility this year (i see him in SD for instance)
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I really hope we dont go after an againg vet at the RB position. I think we have learned our lesson Droughns and Lewis. Let the guys play. Need to know what we have in Harrison and Davis. Jones would only get in the way.
The only lesson we should have learned is that finding reliable, productive running backs don't have to come through the draft or via high-priced free agents.
We got Droughns for spare-parts and he gave us good work.
We got Lewis for very reasonable money and he gave us good work.
By Harrison's own admission, he wasn't ready to play while Lewis was still strong here, so marching him out there wouldn't have done anything good for us. Besides that, we really don't know if Harrison can be the guy. It wasn't that long ago when Lee Suggs finished the year with four really good games and looked like he'd figured it out. Two short years later he was out of the league for good.
Yes, you lose the long-term, career production by acquiring a veteran back, but you gain the short-term production and the knowledge that you know EXACTLY what you're getting. There's the added benefit of being able to spend your draft picks on other positions.
The reality about RB's is that they are the most interchangeable part on the team outside of special-teamers, and finding one is easy. Jones would be an excellent guy to pair with Harrison not only as a player in his own right, but as insurance for a guy that is still a great unknown in Harrison.
Turning this thing around in order to make a point, let's use Harrison as the focal point of this offense.
First, we have to assume he has "arrived" as a feature-back. That's a big assumption, a BIG assumption, but we'll go with it for the sake of argument. It took Harrison four long years to figure it out as a middle-round pick. If Harrison flops this upcoming season, it could take a young back several years to figure it out, where-as a guy like Jones can come right in and carry the load.
I believe it's desirable from a fans perspective to draft a player, develop him, ride and root for him through productive glory years, then watch him retire into the sunset on "our" team.
Goodluck with that. It doesn't happen anymore, does it LT?
Fans in general need to let go of that romantic notion and see players for what they are. As it pertains to running backs, they are interchangeable parts who come and go like the wind.
I'm all for signing someone like Jones. I'd rather go that route than draft a mid-round guy, hoping we can catch lightning in a bottle, then end up with a bunch of duds at the RB position.
If something happens with Harrison, there isn't a quality guy behind him on this roster, all the James Davis's and CFL flunkies be damned.
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A good bit of Columbus talk show jabber about his "Jet" ties with Mangini,...I'm of the opinion to go with what we already have, including the unproven Davis,...while Droughns and Lewis provided some spark, for an 'aged' veteran, I'd want the kind of production and longevity Pittsburgh got after the Rams dumped Jerome Bettis. Notwithstanding the price, too.
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I really hope we dont go after an againg vet at the RB position. I think we have learned our lesson Droughns and Lewis. Let the guys play. Need to know what we have in Harrison and Davis. Jones would only get in the way.
The only lesson we should have learned is that finding reliable, productive running backs don't have to come through the draft or via high-priced free agents.
We got Droughns for spare-parts and he gave us good work.
We got Lewis for very reasonable money and he gave us good work.
By Harrison's own admission, he wasn't ready to play while Lewis was still strong here, so marching him out there wouldn't have done anything good for us. Besides that, we really don't know if Harrison can be the guy. It wasn't that long ago when Lee Suggs finished the year with four really good games and looked like he'd figured it out. Two short years later he was out of the league for good.
Yes, you lose the long-term, career production by acquiring a veteran back, but you gain the short-term production and the knowledge that you know EXACTLY what you're getting. There's the added benefit of being able to spend your draft picks on other positions.
The reality about RB's is that they are the most interchangeable part on the team outside of special-teamers, and finding one is easy. Jones would be an excellent guy to pair with Harrison not only as a player in his own right, but as insurance for a guy that is still a great unknown in Harrison.
Turning this thing around in order to make a point, let's use Harrison as the focal point of this offense.
First, we have to assume he has "arrived" as a feature-back. That's a big assumption, a BIG assumption, but we'll go with it for the sake of argument. It took Harrison four long years to figure it out as a middle-round pick. If Harrison flops this upcoming season, it could take a young back several years to figure it out, where-as a guy like Jones can come right in and carry the load.
I believe it's desirable from a fans perspective to draft a player, develop him, ride and root for him through productive glory years, then watch him retire into the sunset on "our" team.
Goodluck with that. It doesn't happen anymore, does it LT?
Fans in general need to let go of that romantic notion and see players for what they are. As it pertains to running backs, they are interchangeable parts who come and go like the wind.
I'm all for signing someone like Jones. I'd rather go that route than draft a mid-round guy, hoping we can catch lightning in a bottle, then end up with a bunch of duds at the RB position.
If something happens with Harrison, there isn't a quality guy behind him on this roster, all the James Davis's and CFL flunkies be damned.
Toad, I completely agree.
You could pick up Thomas (maybe) for one or two years and use him along with Harrison.
Noone knows what will happen with Davis, hope he tears it up, but with Thomas you know what you are getting for a couple of years.
You save a pick this year that can be used for another need and still have a backup that you can go to if Harrison gets hurt.
Also, uncapped year, this is a freebe as far as I am concerned.
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normaly I would agree. I love Jones and wanted him when he left the Bears. but this is a draft year so deep with backs that I hesitate. There are quite a few bruisers with speed that could be availible around pick 3 or 4.
But dang it would be hard to pass up Jones. he tore it up last season. Droughns and Lewis where already on the downside when we picked them up.
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He was in the same draft as Jamal Lewis. I wouldn't seeing him here though, he runs very hard.
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I knew I shoulda added "age aside" to my post. I knew someone would bring it up. I was talking about how the jets led the league in rushing last season and all the Greene hype aside, Jones was the regular season work horse.
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It's a good argument and Jones is a good back. The questions comes down to mileage, price tag, and primarily need. It's possible we go with what we got. If that's not the case, then I'd think we'd be looking to add size, hopefully a size/speed combo. Ultimately, I'd think we'd be looking to do it through the draft, and given our other needs at tackle, safety & CB, that we would in fact be looking to find that lightening in the bottle in the mid-rounds. (Starks Maybe?) Jones could bring a couple years of good production to the table, IF there's still tread on the tires, we don't stand pat, the price tag isn't too heavy, and we're not looking to draft a bigger guy.
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For most of the season last year, didn't we carry Lewis, Harrison, Jennings and Vickers?
So, with Lewis gone, we have Harrison, Davis and hopefully Vickers and Jennings.
Harrison has earned a shot at being the man.. He showed that he could do the job, but hasn't shown he could do it for a whole year...,
Davis looked like a winner until he got dinged and missed the season.
Jennings had some nice play but I'd think he's the odd man out..
Vickers is the key.. they gotta resign him and keep him.
So if Jennings goes.. then we need to draft a bruiser.. between Harrison and Davis, we have all the speed we need. A bruiser gives us something we didn't have.. the guy that can get 1 or 2 yards almost automatically every time...
Of course, that's JMO.....
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Davis & Jennings, two very similar type backs. As far as your bruiser goes, don't forget Jed Collins. He's a load, probably fits in at FB, but can run & catch a bit. That's about all I know about him, other than Philly & KC seemed to like him somewhat. I still think we'll be looking for a guy like Starks in the draft to share carries with Harrison and Davis. 
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