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The problem I see with that argument is that in terms of the budget, this wasn't new spending, I really believe Bunning picked the wrong battle and shot himself and the GOP in the foot. "Congress has the money for the extension. President Obama's 2010 budget included 49 billion dollars for extension of unemployment insurance." http://www.examiner.com/x-35748-Indianap...o-end-this-week
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Squeezing the life out of people economicly to prove a political point
How many weeks have these people been on unemployment.
I know of too many that will not try to find a job until their unemployment runs out. Like a paid vacation (their words).
How many taxpayers is that squeezing.
I don't think all that many ride it out as a vacation.....no doubt some, but a pretty small percentage i would venture to say.
People ride it out in hopes of finding a job similar to what they did, both in scope and compensation.
No doubt many could land a job stocking the shelves or some other job that doesn't pay nearly as well as the job they had.
So, if you are talking about people who have always made $8 a hour....sure...ride it out because you will still be able to land that job when you finally decide to go back to work.
If you had a job that paid 50K, you aren't going to take the first $8 a hour job you run across.
It is easier to interview and devote your full effort to finding a job if you don't have to go punch the clock somewhere.
That's the real reason so many receive benefit as long as they do.
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Not necessarily responding to anyone in particular, but there are companies who use do unemployment as working vacations for employees they don't want to lose or fire over the long haul, but want to purposely not pay during downtime.
They call it "scheduled" layoff, and then approve the payment of unemployment. It is cheaper than keeping all of the payroll overhead, plus any increase in insurance premiums from the State. It's, kind of, done in an "open enrollment" or "on the down-low" manner and the local union approves of the practice.
I also know of another "loophole," where the local unemployment office uses military retired pay to compute this guy's "level of expected income." I outright asked the dude,..."Don't you think that's not right." He said they told him to include it, so, he did -- another "immorality." And they paid it.
I'm not preaching to anyone, just expressing my own opinion to myself.
I have no misunderstanding about why we're in trouble around here.
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I was on unemployment for 5 months after my plant closed down last year, and unemployment lasts 6.
It lasts much longer now. I know 3 people in my own family on unemployment, 2 going on 2 years now.
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My father worked for General Motors,, Each summer, around the end of July, they had what they called "change over". During that time, production workers (my dad drove a towmotor) were laid off for about 2 weeks.
he didn't collect Unemployment. he got something called Subpay.. Not sure how it works, but basically, he got 90% of his regular pay during that time.
Now that's hardly a savings.. the point was, they didn't have work for them to do. it was a stamping plant so all the big heavy equipment they use to stamp out parts (fenders, roofs etc) had to have new dies installed. No need for guys to run the equipment or drive a towmotor during that time.
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Where is Senator Bunning from?...
When Sen. Voinovich was asked what is wrong with the GOP, he was 100% correct when he said ?..“We’ve got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns (and Jim Bunnings), It’s the Southerners."
What is the Republicans’ biggest problem?.."The party’s being taken over by Southerners.”
Well you know whats wrong with the democratic party.. it's the gays and the black people.
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The GOP and Senator Jim Bunning voted for Trillion dollar tax cuts for the wealthy and never once said a word about paying for it...BUT...extending unemployment benefits for working and middle class workers who have not been able to find a job yet, and the GOP and Senator Bunning says "screw you".
BTW, Senator Bunning and all the GOP senators voted against PayGo so let's not pretend that Senator Bunning's sudden conservative values are showing up now, just as the lame duck, hypocrite heads out the door toward retirement.
The mean spirit of the GOP/Radical RW toward average working class Americans is showing again. The GOP is the party of rich, by the rich, for the rich. It is time for average working class Americans to realize that the GOP is not in Washington DC to take care of your needs, especially during these tough times.
Why any working class voter in America would vote for a Republican who openly votes against the needs of them and their families is beyond me. Maybe it takes someone like Bunning to drive the point home that the GOP doesn't care about the issues that affect the average American.
BTW, those claiming the GOP and Senator Bunning are simply following PayGo guidelines...read it...their are exceptions and this spending bill definitely falls within those exceptions.
Those claiming I'm wrong to toss the GOP in with GOP Sen. Bunning...there are other GOP supporting what Bunning is doing. If the GOP wanted the legislation to go through, they could by telling Bunning, enough is enough.
One last thing...those GOP Senators openly supporting Kentucky Senator Bunning...they are all from the South too.
Anyone thinking our Ohio Senator Voinovich was not telling the truth about the GOP party when he said...
“We’ve got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns, It’s the Southerners."
What is the Republicans’ biggest problem?.."The party’s being taken over by Southerners.”
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Senator Voinovich from Ohio, told the truth about his GOP party...time for working class GOP voters to realize who your Senator really supports...a hint, it's not working class GOP voters.
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The GOP and Senator Jim Bunning voted for Trillion dollar tax cuts for the wealthy and never once said a word about paying for it...
Wait a minute - you think allowing people to keep a bit more of the money they make is a bad thing?
Do you think incomes are the gov't.s - to do with as they please?
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The GOP and Senator Jim Bunning voted for Trillion dollar tax cuts for the wealthy and never once said a word about paying for it.
Seeing that the tax cuts brought in MORE revenue than at at any other time in the HISTORY of this country...I would say that the tax cuts more than paid for themselves....
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He will just ignore your comment Pete. He has been told that like 5000 times now and he still comes back and argues about the tax cuts. He is 100% clueless on the subject and there is no point in discussing with him. He is pretty much a boarderline troll IMO. Reading his posts remind me of Medmann in the smack shack.
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The GOP is the party of rich, by the rich, for the rich.
Interesting statement, because from what I see, the true liberals are a party of the rich, by the rich, for the poor. Middle class is still getting the bum rap even by them.
They expect the hard workers to support those that either don't want to work hard. Now before you throw the line about "some people can't work because disabilities or whatever" they are not the subject here, there are legitimate reasons why someone should receive government assistance, but even you have to admit the system is so screwed up that it allows too many people to take advantage of it.
Nothing is free, even if the government pays for it, the money comes form the people. Your paying for it one way or another. If you buy it yourself, you can control the cost to your budget to an extent, if the government pays, they take what they need to apy it from you and you have no say in the matter.
If insurance costs a family $500/months now, it will still cost $500 month in taxes when the government controls it, and more likely it will costs you $550 to help cover the people that aren't paying taxes.
That's why I don't want universal health care.
Fix the escalating cost issues in, and I might reconsider it in the future, but for now, I say fix the leak, don't just keep bailing the boat.
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Anyone thinking our Ohio Senator Voinovich was not telling the truth about the GOP party when he said...
“We’ve got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns, It’s the Southerners."
What is the Republicans’ biggest problem?.."The party’s being taken over by Southerners.”
I'm not sure why you keep touting that Voinovich is a bigot and acting like that's a good thing.... all of these southerns he's railing against, well that used to be the "Southern Democrats" that the dems could rely on year after year, now they've left and Voinovich is upset... I get it.
or perhaps Voinovich is just upset because half of Ohio's tax base up and left for better weather, better economic conditions, and better job opportunities IN THE SOUTH.... but my money is still on him just being an ignorant bigot.
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Squeezing the life out of people economicly to prove a political point
How many weeks have these people been on unemployment.
I know of too many that will not try to find a job until their unemployment runs out. Like a paid vacation (their words).
How many taxpayers is that squeezing.
Quite typical. Using the words of a few to generalize everyone. As with everything you have some who abuse it. So punish them all for the act of a few.
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Quite typical. Using the words of a few to generalize everyone. As with everything you have some who abuse it. So punish them all for the act of a few.
Isn't that pretty much macs world view? If a corporation makes too much money, have government regulate them all.. if a rich person doesn't do his share, then they are all evil and should have their wages regulated... yep, sounds like mac.
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"Hey people, as a US Senator, the government gives me a thick paycheck, medical benefits, retirement benefits, vacation benefits, and school benefits, but you people are not allowed to use government resources that you paid for while you were part of the workforce."
"Me, I'm gonna sit here and collect my government paycheck and benefits, as for you, nooooo, you shouldn't expect the government to take care of you."
"For over 20 years, I have reaped the benefits of this cushy government job while the rest of you people have been working at more demanding, harder, jobs in the private sector. As members of the private sector, you're taxes went towards my salary and benefits, and they also went towards unemployment benefits for yourselves and other people. But now that things in the private sector have taken a turn for the worse, I don't want you to turn to the government that you have supported since my nomination for senate. Don't rely on the government for assistance, be more like me, wait, what."
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Yes, because clearly you must be a witch if you expect spending to be paid for before you approve it .....
Funny Ytown. Had you bothered reading almost everyone who has posted against what he did, we agree with him in principal. But in this one case he's bringing massive hardships on so very many Americans to prove a political point. This bill was expected to be approved with the support of the GOP overwhelmingly because of that very fact. It's not the fact that he expects money to be paid, it's that he chose the one single bill that will hurt so many people directly that sucks.
He could have done the very same thing on anything else and he would have most certainly have recieved my support as well.
But to hurt so many Americans directly, to cause them to lose their homes and cause hardship to so many families is moraly dispicable IMO.
Politics is politics, but I'll gauruntee he just hurt the GOP overall than any other single move he could have made to prove his point.
And obviously you too could give a damn about your fellow Americans as well for the sake of politics. I sincerly hope that some day you too are on the recieving end of such a thing so you know how it feels. Looks like that's what it would take for some here to have evn an ounce of humanity.
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i agree with you on that he did it poorly, though not necessarily the issue.
the bipartisan jobs bill that got completely rewritten by the Dem's is really what he is railing against (after reading from his website I linked to earlier along with other sites).
he could have threatened this action then....threatened to squash the extension if they completely re-wrote the bill after all the bipartisan efforts to get it where it was. and then gone through with the threat if they tried to call his bluff.
thinking more thoroughly, that would be my biggest issue with how he handled this: he wasn't pro-active and caused this to happen when he could have accomplished the same thing without the negative side effects.
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I think your delusional....You blame him for making a political point...When you have ALL those Democrats who refused to push this through with the funding solution that was made available to them. Who is REALLY making the political statement???
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I sincerly hope that some day you too are on the recieving end of such a thing so you know how it feels. Looks like that's what it would take for some here to have evn an ounce of humanity.
I hope that some day you lose your job, lose your government assistance, lose your home... I hope you lose everything.. then maybe you'll learn to be as compassionate as me.  I'm sorry, that's beautiful right there.
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I sincerly hope that some day you too are on the recieving end of such a thing so you know how it feels.
I hope nobody here EVER has to go through this...but I guess that's just my opinion. 
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Sometimes you have to introduce a little discomfort to shock people out of complacency. I would shut down the government completely to introduce a littrle fiscal sanity. Would it hurt? Absollutely. I do believe that it's absolutely essential if we are to survive as a society though. Now, let me tell you a little about pain ..... I work 60 hours per week on my feet with an extremely painful back. I have spent somewhere in the area of $6000-$7000 in the past year .... after insurance ..... to pay for deductables, co-pays, prescriptions and the like. I would love "free" stuff ..... but, in the end, someone must pay for "free", and I don't have the right to take from someone else. My doctor asks me why I am still working when I should not be. (and despite the fact that I have both short and long term disbility available through my job) I work because that is what I do .... and it's what I will do until I am no longer able to do so. That day may be approaching, but as long as I can work through the pain, I will. I am currently taking a morphine derivative for the pain, and it makes the pain closer to managable. It is frequently excruciating though. So, don't talk to me about pain. Don't talk to me about suffering. I would suggest that you listen to Bunning's comments on the matter. There was a bipartisan bill that was ready to go ..... until it was dumped by the Senate Leader. Maybe if watch the video ......... Quote:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/rep...loyment-9959315
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I hope nobody here EVER has to go through this...but I guess that's just my opinion.
What she said...
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I would love "free" stuff ..... but, in the end, someone must pay for "free", and I don't have the right to take from someone else.
And, that right there is true compassion.
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I would love "free" stuff ..... but, in the end, someone must pay for "free", and I don't have the right to take from someone else.
And, that right there is true compassion.
Which is why I wouldn't mind if some of my money went to a guy with that attitude... hell I'd send him a check myself because of two reason.. 1. He's doing all he can do and 2. He doesn't think he's entitled to it...
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This is crazy...Senator Bunning was on C-span a few minutes ago trying to defend himself and Senator Harry Reid pointed out that Senator Bunning does not support PayGo and voted against it and that Bunning says he supports the extention of the unemployment benefits.
What is funny, Senator Bunning is asking Senator Reid to use procedure to go around his (Bunning's) filibuster....this is nuts folks. Senator Bunning wants Senator Reid to save his (Bunning) butt now that people are suffering due to his actions... but he won't end his filibuster.
I believe this is the craziest GOP political stunt I have ever seen.
I did read somewhere that Senator Bunning is might be suffering from the beginning stages of Alzheimer...I think he's just a bitter, mean old man who thinks of himself more than his fellow American men, women and children. I belive Bunning and those GOP Senators supporting him are so removed from reality that they refuse to consider what they are doing to those Americans in need.
I also read that Senator Bunning might be upset that the larger Jobs Bill ($85 billion), that came out of the Senate Finance Committee, was tabled by Harry Reid in favor of a smaller and more targeted Jobs Bill that cost $15 billion. The larger $85 billion bill was loaded up like a Christmas tree with pork...pork that Senator Bunning wanted. Bunning's filibuster of this bill (to extend unemployment benefits along with benefits that help the average blue collar workers) is payback to Senator Reid for tabling the $85 billion porker that Senator Bunning and many other GOP Senators wanted.
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I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
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I did read somewhere that Senator Bunning is might be suffering from the beginning stages of Alzheimer...
I'd like to see the link. Thanks in advance.
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I thought the same thing Arch. That better be true mac. (even though I hope it isn't and you are wrong on that). Super low blow if not true.
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I'd like to see the link. Thanks in advance.
As a result of my famous 1 minute searches this is all I found and I would NOT consider this a reliable source..
http://www.flickr.com/groups/worldpolitics/discuss/72157623411844283/
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I would not consider it reliable either - glad you mentioned that. (and I base my opinion on not only that blurb, but on the others I read there)
However - it's a "first glimpse" kind of thing I guess.
Still waiting for mac to put up a link. If someone makes a statement like mac did, I would hope they would have a link to a credible source. Other wise, we can all get away with saying "I read that so and so was a murderer - just don't remember where I read it", etc.
mac - any links to your source that Bunning is suffering from Alzheimers???????
Again, thanks for the link in advance. Dang - that's the second time I thanked him in advance for something he didn't do. He must be at work.
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Bunning Blocks Jobless Benefits AGAIN, But Deal Is Reportedly Near
Senate GOP leader says deal will be reached. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said at a press conference Tuesday that he would soon have an agreement with Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) to allow a vote on a bill providing a 30 day extension of enhanced unemployment benefits and subsidized health insurance for laid off workers, among other things.
"We're going to be able to work out a short term extension in the very near future as we're in the process of working on that now," said McConnell. He declined to elaborate, but according to ABCNews, Bunning will agree to allow a vote on the bill in exchange for a vote on an amendment to offset the bill's $10 billion price tag, a deal Bunning previously rejected because the amendment will fail.
According to the National Employment Law Project, 200,000 people will prematurely lose eligibility for extended benefits this week alone. It wouldn't happen if Bunning had not objected to a "unanimous consent" motion for a vote on the bill last Thursday.
Bunning has objected a dozen times since then, even when fellow Republican Sen. Susan Collins (Maine) asked for a vote on the bill on Tuesday morning.
A reporter asked why McConnell, the leader of Republicans in the Senate, has been absent from the Senate floor throughout Bunning's epic block of the bill. A handful of Republicans have praised Bunning, but his fellow Kentuckian McConnell has remained conspicuously silent. He dodged the question.
"We're working on this issue," said McConnell.
So do you agree with Bunning?
"We're in the process of working this out," he said.
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4:08 PM ET -- Bunning championed an unpaid-for $6.6-billion unemployment extension back in 2003, ThinkProgress notes. "This is hopeful news for our most needy families in Kentucky. By approving this legislation we will help those folks who are currently without work continue to make ends meet until they can find new employment," Bunning said at the time.
3:32 PM ET -- Tea Partiers love Bunning, Mother Jones reports. "We're all in support of Sen. Bunning," says Wendy Caswell, the founder of the Louisville Tea Party.
3:09 PM ET -- Bunning: Hill security 'doing a lousy job' protecting me from reporters. Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) wants better protection from Hill reporters in and around Senate-only elevators.
As he boarded an elevator after leaving the Senate floor on Tuesday, reporters asked about his conversation with the Senate Sergeant at Arms. What were they talking about?
"Oh, about being harassed on the elevators," he said.
When ABCNews tried to ask him about his hold on legislation that among other things would extend enhanced unemployment benefits for laid off workers, Bunning became enraged that a reporter would violate the sanctity of the elevator.
"Excuse me! This is a Senators-only elevator!" yelled a steamed Bunning. "Excuse me!"
On Tuesday, Bunning seemed to be joking. He said the Sergeant at Arms, which oversees all security on the Hill, was just checking in with him.
"He was asking about how they were doing, about how the Sergeant at Arms' office was doing," Bunning explained. "I said they were doing a lousy job."
And then the door closed, and down went Bunning.
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2:03 PM ET -- New comments from Bunning. Via The Hill:
Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) suggested Tuesday afternoon that his block on an emergency benefits bill may be nearing an end.
Bunning told reporters that he may drop his objections to a bill extending unemployment benefits and COBRA health plan subsidies "as soon as possible," possibly meaning today.
"We're working on it," Bunning told reporters in a video captured by ABC News.
1:35 PM ET -- Hits on Bunning keep coming. Here's a new video blasted out by Americans United for Change, an advocacy group aligned with the Democratic congressional leadership. The spot, titled "Beanbag Bunning," plays off the Senator's previous career as a major league pitcher.
1:15 PM ET -- CongressDaily: Deal with Bunning is near. "GOP senators and aides said today the Senate is near a deal that would overcome an objection by Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky., to extending a series of expired provisions, including unemployment insurance, without paying for them," CongressDaily reports (subscription required). "Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., said he believed there is an agreement in which Bunning would get a vote on his proposed pay-for to cover the cost of the bill, after which he would allow a quick vote to allow 30-day extensions of the programs. But a senior GOP aide said the deal was not yet finalized. Bunning previously rejected such an arrangement."
1:10 PM ET -- Bunning's homestate paper slams his 'callous grandstanding.' The Lexington Herald-Leader published a scathing editorial today taking on both Bunning and the two Republicans aiming to replace him this November (who both have supported his efforts):
As long as Republicans were in charge, Sen. Jim Bunning was OK with trading a surplus for a deficit. He voted to put two wars, tax cuts and a Medicare drug benefit on the nation's credit card.
Now that Republicans are no longer in charge, Bunning is drawing the line on deficit spending. He's doing it in a way that shows callous contempt for the more than one in 10 working Kentuckians whose jobs disappeared in the economic meltdown.
We've become accustomed to bizarre, egocentric behavior from Bunning. So it wasn't all that surprising when he single-handedly blocked an unemployment benefits extension for a million people, including 119,230 in Kentucky, whose benefits run out this year. About 14,000 Kentuckians will exhaust their benefits in two weeks without the extension.
Bunning's filibuster also denies newly laid-off workers help paying for health insurance. It halts road and bridge projects around the country by furloughing 2,000 federal transportation employees, stops reimbursements to state highway programs and cuts Medicare payments to doctors.
To those who know him, it's not surprising that Bunning answered a Democratic colleague's complaint with a crude profanity. Or that he joked about missing a basketball game while pushing some unemployed Kentuckians into homelessness or bankruptcy.
What is surprising is that Trey Grayson and Rand Paul, the leading Republicans to succeed Bunning, jumped on his one-man band wagon.
1:09 PM ET -- Bunning's block impacts KY Sen race. MSNBC's Mark Murray reports, "GOP Sen. Jim Bunning blocking the extension of unemployment insurance and transportation spending has now spilled over to the Senate race to succeed him."
Democrat Jack Conway, who's running to replace the retiring Bunning, has issued a petition demanding that Bunning end his blockage.
Conway is competing against Lt. Gov. Dan Mongiardo in the Democratic primary, and Mongiardo also has criticized Bunning here. The Republicans in the race are Rand Paul (Ron Paul's son) and Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson, and both are supporting Bunning's block.
1:01 PM ET -- National Flood Insurance Program expires due to Bunning block.
The National Flood Insurance Program expired Sunday night after Congress failed to pass a temporary extension of the program that is vital to protecting homes in the New Orleans area.
The lapse puts home sales at risk and could leave homeowners whose policies were scheduled to renew March 1 in jeopardy in the unlikely event that Monday's rains turned out to be heavy enough to cause flooding.
12:14 PM ET -- Obama to take on Bunning. "White House aides are saying there's a 'strong possibility' President Obama will take on Sen. Jim Bunning during the president's 1230 p.m. ET economic remarks at Savannah Technical College."
12:11 PM ET -- Bunning has another run-in with journalist. CNN's Dana Bash "again tried to get Bunning to comment more extensively on the controversy but the senator emphatically declined."
11:10 AM -- Bunning again blocks jobless benefits. Sen. Jim Bunning has again blocked the Senate from extending unemployment benefits and health insurance subsidies for the jobless.
The Kentucky Republican objected Tuesday to a request by Maine Sen. Susan Collins, a fellow Republican, to pass a 30-day extension of jobless benefits and other expired measures. The measure would also extend highway programs and prevent a big cut in Medicare payments to doctors.
Bunning has been single-handedly blocking the stopgap legislation since Thursday, to the increasing discomfort of Republicans like Collins. Frustrated Democrats have been lobbing attacks at Bunning and his fellow Republicans for days. web page
Just to be clear...the deal Senator Bunning is trying to make is with those in his own GOP party who do not agree with holding up unemployment benefits for American workers.
There are several GOP senators who agree with Sen. Bunning's sudden surge of GOP conservatism, cutting off benefits for American workers, while other GOP Senators want Bunning to stop playing his games with the lives of Americans who need the help.
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Thanks for the "Huffington Post" article!  It conveniently left out this part of the AP original: "Bunning said again Tuesday that he opposed the extension because it would add $10 billion to the budget deficit, and he attacked Democrats for abandoning promises to pay for legislation instead of contributing to a budget deficits projected to hit almost $1.6 trillion this year. Bunning proposes to pay for the extension with unspent money from last year's massive economic recovery package, but (Senate Majority Leader Harry) Reid, D-Nev., objected." (Correction: We had a typo earlier, identifying Reid as R-Nev.)
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Who cares if he is in the beginning stages...it can take 10 years for it to become a real problem.
We have had sitting Senators and Congress representatives in the final stages of one ailment or another.
Shoot, Senator Kennedy couldn't have been in full command of his faculty the last few years of his term.
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I sincerly hope that some day you too are on the recieving end of such a thing so you know how it feels.
I hope nobody here EVER has to go through this...but I guess that's just my opinion.
It simply seems some have no understanding of what a devisation this will have on someone. Maybe if they experienced it they might have a little more compassion and understanding. But that's just me.
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I sincerly hope that some day you too are on the recieving end of such a thing so you know how it feels. Looks like that's what it would take for some here to have evn an ounce of humanity.
I hope that some day you lose your job, lose your government assistance, lose your home... I hope you lose everything.. then maybe you'll learn to be as compassionate as me. I'm sorry, that's beautiful right there.
Simple DC. Some are raised with and have compassion for our nations children and hard working families. Some have to live through it to understand it.
When economic times are such as they are, I understand it. I always have. I didn't have to go through it to understand it. How many years have I been around?
Others must face it to get it. It's just human nature. Different people learn and understand in different ways. I didn't need to go through it to understand it. Some do...
Some put political points ahead of compassion. Not my problem. I think those who feel that way will have a problem from being that way eventually one way or the other though.
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I sincerly hope that some day you too are on the recieving end of such a thing so you know how it feels.
I hope nobody here EVER has to go through this...but I guess that's just my opinion.
It simply seems some have no understanding of what a devisation this will have on someone. Maybe if they experienced it they might have a little more compassion and understanding. But that's just me.
I understand that Pit.....but it seems some are using citizens as their pawns for political gain.
And IMO it isn't just the Republicans....as has been noted, the Dems aren't very agreeable towards finding something that works.
I am sorry the Dems have put people in this position.
You are a fair guy Pit.....you have to look at both sides of the coin....and I understood your comment and where you were coming from....I don't think you said that with malice or were being totally literal with your words.....you were making a point.
At least I took it that way.
One doesn't have to be or have been unemployed to understand how that can devastate a family or person..
We all have bills to pay and at one time or another have experienced being stretched a bit too far. It doesn't take much to imagine how quickly things can go down the tubes without paycheck.
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My, you're quite the savvy poster.
WHERE IS THE LINK TO SEN. BUNNING HAVING ALZHIEMER'S?
There - you can't miss it. Where is your link????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Can you answer a question????????????????????????
It should be simple - you said it - you must have a link, right? Show it.
as in POST THE LINK.
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I hope nobody here EVER has to go through this...but I guess that's just my opinion.
It simply seems some have no understanding of what a devisation this will have on someone. Maybe if they experienced it they might have a little more compassion and understanding. But that's just me.
Preaching to the choir here bud. I was fired. No job. In fact, the afternoon I came home we were supposed to go out to eat. I told my wife I didn't feel like going out - I had just been fired. I had no job.
No way to pay the bills.
And I got another job after pouting for a month.
Been there bud. Seen it - done it.
The job I got sucked. I despised it. Hated it. (and frankly, the jof I got was selling crap vehicles to people with credit lower than cesspools. - and that's part of the reason I hated it)
So go preach somewhere else. I've been near the top, and I've been below the bottom.
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It simply seems some have no understanding of what a devisation this will have on someone. Maybe if they experienced it they might have a little more compassion and understanding. But that's just me.
It seems to be you are saying I have no understanding or compassion for those out of work. Do you even know my present personal situation?
I have compassion for those honestly TRYING to make things happen in their lives. I care about a struggling family that can barely make enough to feed their kids or pay the gas bill (remember, this guy is also paying for all the dolts that abuse the system). I have compassion for those that use unemployment correctly and actually try to find another job...ANY job. I care about the guy in so much pain he can barely breathe, yet he gets up and goes to work every damned day so he can take care of his family.
I do NOT care about those playing the unemployment game. And, whether anyone believes it or not, they are out there. I turn them away from my store all the time...and the saddest part is they actually TELL us that they really just need to say they are putting in applications to keep their benefits. Screw them. I work my ass off for nothing, yet they get paid for sitting on their asses.
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Got this in an email, seemed appropriate for this thread
I recently asked my friend's little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be president some day.
Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, "If you were president what would be the first thing you would do?"
She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.."
Her parents beamed.
"Wow... what a worthy goal." I told her, "But you don't have to wait until you're president to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where homeless guys hang out, and you can give them the $50, you earned, to use toward food and a new house."
She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"
I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."
Her parents still aren't speaking to me.
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