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I agree. The Seahawks have two 1st round picks. Say they use the #6 on Brandon Marshall and take C.J. Spiller or Bryan Bulaga with the 15th pick. I'd say that's a pretty successful draft.
I think Spiller would be a terrible pick - Justin Forsett is a speed back and the only back taht did anything last year - they'd have 2 and Julius Jones who you and I could give a run for the money - he was terrible last year. Terrible. Of course, if Seattle got rid of Forsett, then Spiller would be a good choice. If I were Schneider (Seattle GM), I'd take Bulaga, Davis, or Williams for LT at 14 and grab a Hardesty, Tate, or Blount in 4.
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The Broncos are bringing Justin Bannan home again. The former University of Colorado star and Baltimore Ravens’ defensive lineman reached an agreement in principal Friday with the Broncos on a five-year contract.
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I'm trying to keep the faith but it seems like the past few seasons we have been trying the addition by subtraction approach. If we get rid of enough underperforming players we will end up better, right? I can see the logic in all of the Browns moves so far but it is still frustrating. It would be nice to see a big name signing, but again I can see the logic in not doing it.
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From KFFL Giants | Rolle agrees to five-year deal Comment (0) Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:07:36 -0800 Updating a previous item, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the New York Giants have reached agreement with FS Antrel Rolle (Cardinals) on a five-year deal worth $37 million. The deal includes $15 million in guarantees. Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#631072#ixzz0hMmc3DsX
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Well, the Browns aren't going to be getting any high powered FA...hopefully we can still add some solid ones later on...
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Well, the Browns aren't going to be getting any high powered FA...hopefully we can still add some solid ones later on...
rvr...if the Browns were one or two players away from making a run for the playoffs, you might see them be more active in the "high dollar" free agent market...
But, the Browns are in the process of laying a solid foundation that will help take the team to the next level.
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But, the Browns are in the process of laying a solid foundation that will help take the team to the next level.
This is the Approach I want them to take.. It could be painful,, but no worse than what we've already dealt with...
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Well, the Browns aren't going to be getting any high powered FA...hopefully we can still add some solid ones later on...
I think that is the plan.....allow the feeding frenzy to subside, then go after a few of the "lunch bucket" guys.
Not superstars by any means or guys who will even seem to be doing much to help the team win....but solid players who give solid reps when in....be it the whole game or just as a ST player.
It may not be "sexy" signing good players to the bottom of your roster, but it is vital you do so.
It also has a big impact on how you look at the draft. If you have added a few solid, proven players, it allows to to go for broke with a few of those early-mid to mid round picks. Picks you normally look for at least solid production.....like the guys signed...and use those picks to go for boom or bust factor guys with the hope they boom, or trade the picks away to move up.
It sounds great to have 11 or 12 picks, but i seriously doubt we make that many selections. No team really wants 11-12 drafted rookies running around. Some of those picks are going to be used in trades of some sort. In the end I could see us with 7-8 drafted players by the time all is said and done.
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we now have 12 draft picks in a deep draft class.
That is how this team needs built. The heck with high priced FAs.
and I agree some of those picks should be used for trades.
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we now have 12 draft picks in a deep draft class.
That is how this team needs built. The heck with high priced FAs.
and I agree some of those picks should be used for trades.
As far as I know, we still have 11. (with compensatory picks not yet announced)
We lost a 7th and picked up a 5th in the Williams deal. I don't recall any other picks being dealt or added. Did I miss soemthing?
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I am pretty sure thats how it went.....when it was first announced they didnt say anything about us giving our 7th pick along with williams then it came out later.....maybe he didnt catch that part
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We lost a 7th and picked up a 5th in the Williams deal. I don't recall any other picks being dealt or added. Did I miss soemthing?
no, I missed this ^
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no, I missed this ^
can you keep up please 
it's Chain pulling time.........LOL
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I need to quit my job so I can keep up. My S.O. told me last night not to quit my day job just yet. She heard me singing and playing my bass." You need more practice" But the 5th rounder, esp. Detroit's 5th rounder, is good news.
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I heard it might not be Detroits 5th, but the one they got from Denver last year. Can anyone Verify???
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This one is not sexy at all. in fact I don't even know who he is, but we Re-signed him for 3yrs. Quote:
Ray Ventrone (S) re-signed/unrestricted free agent (three-year contract).
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I think if you check, Vetrone was kind of a special team ace.. I'm sure it's not for huge dollars.. Just taking care to bring back guys that produce in unique and special ways.. you need these guys at the bottom of the roster that do some dirty work. guys like him and constanzo...
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We lost a 7th and picked up a 5th in the Williams deal. I don't recall any other picks being dealt or added. Did I miss soemthing?
no, I missed this ^
I remember reading that yesterday, but today's Dispatch said we got two low round draft picks for Williams. I hope that the Dispatch is accurate, but I doubt it.
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I think if you check, Vetrone was kind of a special team ace.. I'm sure it's not for huge dollars.. Just taking care to bring back guys that produce in unique and special ways.. you need these guys at the bottom of the roster that do some dirty work. guys like him and constanzo...
Right on. I'm glad to see that we locked Ventrone up for a couple seasons. I hope we can do the same for Blake Costanzo. Those two were a big part of why the Browns had one of the top-ranked special teams units in the league last season.
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we now have 12 draft picks in a deep draft class.
That is how this team needs built. The heck with high priced FAs.
and I agree some of those picks should be used for trades.
I am on board with this.
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I agree to an extent, you can't do what the Bears are trying to do: sign everyone. But you still have to bring in talented players in small doses or your going to be rebuilding through the draft for 5 years (if you don't have any busts). Kinda like what Savage was trying to do; signing Baxter his first year then LCB the next. If your as talent starved as the Browns you can't just rely on the draft, though it should be what you mainly build around.
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The Bears had no 1st or 2nd round pick, so they could afford to do what they did.
While I agree on building thru the draft, IMO we still need to sign a couple good FA's. The bottom of our roster was built up last year, now's time for some starting talent.
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Adam Schefter is reporting that the Bears are getting carried away, they just signed their groundskeeper to an extension of 6 yrs 72 million. I believe that makes him the highest paid artificial technologist in league history.
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I agree to an extent, you can't do what the Bears are trying to do: sign everyone. But you still have to bring in talented players in small doses or your going to be rebuilding through the draft for 5 years (if you don't have any busts). Kinda like what Savage was trying to do; signing Baxter his first year then LCB the next. If your as talent starved as the Browns you can't just rely on the draft, though it should be what you mainly build around.
Baxter and LCB are perfect examples of why I'm leary of high priced free agents.
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So 1st and 2nd would be an early round pick right? 3rd-5th a mid-round pick? So that means a late round pick is a 6th or 7th? So we traded a 2nd round pick (pick #36) and two craptastic years of Corey Williams for a 6th or 7th rounder?
Sounds like a good deal to me.
*Players drafted after pick #36 in the 2nd round:
TE - John Carlson
WR - Eddie Royal
RB - Matt Forte
WR - DeSean Jackson
DE - Calais Campbell
RB - Ray Rice
TE - Martellus Bennett
actually, it was the 56th pick in the 2008 draft that we traded to green bay for williams, but given the production, and what we got trading him back to a 4-3 i guess you can say it was a good salary dump if nothing else
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In hindsight they were busts, nobody could've predicted that both players would eventually have freak injuries that cost their careers. They were solid pickups at the time
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Clutch, you left out it was 16.5 million up front guaranteed with some escalators as well; endorsement deals may possibly elevate. Future Hall of Famer! 
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In hindsight they were busts, nobody could've predicted that both players would eventually have freak injuries that cost their careers. They were solid pickups at the time
Baxter was never that good even when he played (not often).
Savage had no plan if they didn't work out and it showed.
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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Matt Maiocco, of The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports unrestricted free-agent QB David Carr (Giants) left his meeting with the San Francisco 49ers without a contract.
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Matt Maiocco, of The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports unrestricted free-agent QB David Carr (Giants) left his meeting with the San Francisco 49ers without a contract.
That's cause he's on his way here....LOL
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I personally hope we go after Mike Bell. He would be a perfect compliment to harrison, he's only 26 and doesn't have a lot of mileage on him.
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And it wouldn't hurt anything to offer him a contract. The Saints tendered Bell at the lowest level this past week (right of first refusal). So if we offer him a contract the worst that can happen is the Saints match our offer.
I don't think Bell is even really worth an offer. Guys like him are a dime a dozen. He rushed for only 3.8 yards per carry last year. I think we could draft a guy in the 5th or 6th round and get production equal to what Bell would provide at a fraction of the cost.
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I'm already at the point where I don't care who it is, I just want to know who it is so I can have a head start at talking myself into that person, for example:
Brady Quinn...He hasn't really been given a full season as the unquestioned starter. And he did look pretty good against the Lions and Chargers.
David Carr...He wasn't that bad for the Texans. He just didn't have any protection.
Seneca Wallace...He's been alright when he has started some games. And he already knows Holmgren's offense.
Derek Anderson...no comment.
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David Carr...hu...I dont know..man I'm soooo tired of retread QB's
Hasnt worked in the past, why would we think it will work this time...
i'd rather go with Quinn and draft a McCoy or someone else in the 2nd round.
I lied, I'd rather trade away all our draft picks for Payton or brees or eli, but the other teams probebly wouldnt go for that, would they
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