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Yeah that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, although a 5th is better than a 7th and if we were going to release him anyways... eh I guess.
Considering the amount of money he was owed on his contract, getting ANYTHING for him was a steal.
He was due $7 million for 2010. It's trade a 7th for a 5th or cut him outright and get nothing.
Which would you choose?
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taking 7th round picks mean nothing, good deal for a 5th
I'd say it's a hell of a deal. Like people said Williams probably wouldn't have been here and that 5th is the first pick in that round which could possibly be used to move up in a paticular round. Hey if that pick helps us land a good player i'm all for it.
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FYI, it was a terrible deal because of the wonderful value and talent you generally get with 7th round picks.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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Without compensatory picks, that 5th rounder is the 2nd pick in the 5th round. The Rams have the first pick. Our pick was the 7th pick in the 7th round.
Like I said, this will all change once the compensatory picks are handed out (hopefully we get one for Andra Davis).
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FYI, it was a terrible deal because of the wonderful value and talent you generally get with 7th round picks.
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Ah yeah, why the hell do I keep thinking the Lions have the first pick? I guess i'm just used to it  plus i'm only running on 4 hours of sleep so the motor is running right now but nobody's behind the wheel.
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According to Django those guys should be starting halfway through training camp.
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According to Django those guys should be starting halfway through training camp.
but, if they are starting, then obviously it is a HC conspiracy to make himself look better at drafting (i.e. Mack).
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1. Steal huh?  That's why we got a deal....because there were other teams interested.....once I got that info I would have hold on to him until after the draft and FA and then look at desperate GMs face who have no viable starting DT for their 4-3...or better, wait till one gets hurt....happens every preseason, a lot 2. Where do you have this 7mil number from? I have him at 5mil this year with only 100k workout bonus 3. We essentially got the same for C.Williams as we got for Leonard 4. Would it have hurt if waited till the preseason started and then trade him for more in next year's draft? I just don't get why we had to do it now?....there was no bonus up as far as I can see
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Where do you have this 7mil number from? I have him at 5mil this year with only 100k workout bonus
Cleveland.com (Scroll down to where it says, "Williams' future?")
He wasn't due $5 million or $7 million but somewhere in the middle, $6 million.
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Would it have hurt if waited till the preseason started and then trade him for more in next year's draft? I just don't get why we had to do it now?....there was no bonus up as far as I can see
Yes, yes it would hurt. He is due a roster bonus of $1.2 million this month (see the above link). You don't want to pay a guy $1.2 million then trade him. Also, this year's draft is one of the deepest ever. Getting higher picks for this draft should be a priority.
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The Cleveland Browns made it official, trading defensive lineman Corey Williams and their 2010 seventh-round draft choice to the Detroit Lions in exchange for a fifth-round selection in the 2010 draft.
That selection is a pick obtained by Detroit from Denver.
Williams wasn't too happy during his tenure in Cleveland, or productive.
In 32 games, including 18 starts, he registered 88 tackles, 4 1/2 sacks, a fumble recovery and a forced fumble.
The Browns announced that they have stockpiled 11 picks in this year's draft, nine during the first five rounds.
That pick from Denver is the 15th pick in the 5th round.
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That pick from Denver is the 15th pick in the 5th round.
 Did we also take on half of his salary? I'd rather have the Lions 6th rounder straight up looking at this deal...would only be 20 picks later but we'd have 1 more pick to trade or get an additional project in here....hey after all it's the deepest draft of all time, right? 
I know Heckert has a good 5th round track record but this is clear cut 1st time GM getting prospect happy RED FLAG....what's in the water in Cleveland...no matter how competent the guys who land there are, they turn into beheaded chickens quickly....guess we have to live with some more outsmarting rookie mistakes
at least the guy can draft...that's an upgrade
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1. Steal huh? That's why we got a deal....because there were other teams interested.....once I got that info I would have hold on to him until after the draft and FA and then look at desperate GMs face
In the meantime you're cutting a check for $1.7 million, his roster bonus.
It's easy when it isn't your money to spend. 
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2. Where do you have this 7mil number from? I have him at 5mil this year with only 100k workout bonus
My fingers were typing too fast and hit the 7 instead of the 6. It's $6 million because of his salary combined with that roster bonus and workout bonus.
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not sure why you are upset here.
we obviously decided to cut Corey if we couldn't trade him. need to trade before the roster bonus is due because we will cut him on that date.
maybe we could have bled out a slightly higher pick if we held onto him until his roster bonus date, but maybe there would have been no deals with teams expecting us to cut him.
we got a 5th round pick and Detroit gets to say they made a big splash (combined with Burleson and Vanden Bosch potentially).
also, for this draft, it is my opinion that the top 3 rounds look really deep compared to normal years, but there is a steep dropoff after that (depending, of course, on who drops on draft day). I am really hoping that we use some of these later picks to move up into round3 to get some of the players that are dropping at that point.
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It does make more sense with the 1.7mil bonus coming up...from the numbers of the contract detail page at roto there was only 4.9mil salary + 100k workout bonus. We paid 6mil of roster bonus last season...so I thought all of that was cleared...my bad, roto normally is more reliable with this stuff. Should have double checked but since I read nothing about a bonus coming up and saw no one on here say/post something this way I figured it to be right...now if we get a 5th to 4th round switch for Quinn...THAT would be a steal I still maintain that we could have done much better later on, esp. if we would have paid the bonus....but it's debatable if paying 1.7mil for a 3rd or 4th rounder is worth the upgrade from the 6th round "value" we got
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Just to clarify, we got a 5th round pick for Williams.
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Just to clarify, we got a 5th round pick for Williams.
i assume he was referring to switching from a 7th round pick to a 5th round pick is a value of a 6th round pick (based on the value chart)
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I agree with you on the draft, the 1st three rounds seem to be extremly deep this yr. We have twelve picks, I would be willing to bet that we DON'T come out of this draft with 12 players.
I just see us doing ALOT of moving during the draft.
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ahh, gotta love the Lions. First they gift-wrap us Joe Thomas and Shaun Rogers, now they send us a pick for an overpaid under-achiever that we were going to cut anyway. It's not on the same level but every little bit helps. I can't even thank Millen anymore... I think it's Mayhew now?
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we also gave the Lions a 7th rounder with Corey Williams for a 5th rounder. link
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Considering the amount of money he was owed on his contract, getting ANYTHING for him was a steal.
He was due $7 million for 2010
this point seems to be lost on alot of people.
One of the major components of having a new regime come in is restructuring the roster and getting the books set up so that as they make personnel decisions they arent hampered by the previous regime's contracts. Add this to the fact that CW was largely invisible last year and he was a prime candidate to move if they could find a taker.
I think the moves make perfect sense
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so Anderson won't be here either.. cool.
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so Anderson won't be here either.. cool.
No so fast kimmosabe (sp) there is something going on with Anderson. I can't tell you what cause I don't know. But if it was JUST the money, they don't need to wait until the 19th to cut him. They could do it at anytime. No need to prolong it...
They either must feel that he's a real option here (either short or long term) or that they can get something for him if packaged or straight up. Or it's a cat and mouse game hoping someone will bite and ask for him in a deal... not sure.
But what I am sure of is this, if it's just the money and NO other reason, why keep him until the 19th.. Get it over with and cut the kid.
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so Anderson won't be here either.. cool.
No so fast kimmosabe (sp) there is something going on with Anderson. I can't tell you what cause I don't know..
I have the same feeling
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I'd guess they're trying to work out a new deal with him - one that he isn't paid 9+ mil this next season.
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I'd guess they're trying to work out a new deal with him - one that he isn't paid 9+ mil this next season.
Someone brought that up before and others shot it down saying why would Anderson agree to a pay cut..
I think the answer is simple, if he gets cut by us, I don't believe any other team has to honor his current contract. thus, it's a new deal and I don't think anyone is going to pay him big..
So, if he's promised that he'll be the starter for the ENTIRE year and that the intention is to build the offense around him for the long haul, he'll probably take a lesser deal... with the hopes of getting a big payday in 1 or 2 years.....
Besides, anywhere else he might go, he's not going to get that promise or close to that kinda money his current contract requires.
Now, ask me if I buy any of what I just said? the answer is,, no, not really. But I accept the fact that it could be true.. I just got a shiver up my spine...LOL
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