DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Seneca Wallace a BROWN

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Absolute worst case is that he is one heckuva nice backup to have.... but I agree with others that I do not believe that we have anyone here that can push him to the bench.

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We need decent back-ups. Recently our back-ups have been soooooo bad that they are no longer in the league.

We gotta raise the floor before worrying about the ceiling...

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lol, recently some of our starters have been so bad they're no longer in the league

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lol, that makes me laugh, but also a little sad at the same time.

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lol, recently some of our starters have been so bad they're no longer in the league

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The difference in player quality Us / Them ( Pit, Cin Bal, ) is really sad .. Oh well , up , up and away with a new FO ... again, again, again

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Maybe the Browns acquired Seneca Wallace to package him in a deal that brings Kolb to the Browns?...wouldn't that be sweet?

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I'm more thinking Wallace is our Hasselbeck and we're still looking for our Dilfer (Bulger or Delhomme??).

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who was that 4th round DB that Savage picked?

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1. Here's what I know about Seneca Wallace -- he will be A Browns quarterback. Not necessarily the starter. He could be a backup to Brady Quinn, although when the Browns do talk about this at length, they probably will say the two "will compete for the job." But all that is subject to change, as I believe the Browns are still looking at possible deals for another quarterback.

2. Here's what is settled about the position: Nothing. OK, Derek Anderson was released Tuesday. And the Browns have Wallace and Quinn, which indicates they won't draft a quarterback in the top two rounds. Why put all that cash out for a quarterback, when you have two guys (three counting Brett Ratliff) under 30 at the position?

3. But making a traded for a veteran such as Donovan McNabb? You'd better believe the Browns will talk about it if the Eagles are open to a deal. They just signed Michael Vick, which gives them three quarterbacks along with Kevin Kolb and McNabb. No matter what the Eagles say about wanting to keep their quarterbacks, they certainly are in a tremendous position to trade one.

4. Browns coach Eric Mangini has a clear memory of Wallace playing for a Seattle team coached by Mike Holmgren at the end of the 2008 season -- when the Seahawks beat Mangini's Jets, 13-3. It was a game that cost the Jets a playoff spot. It also was played in the wind and snow, and Wallace was 18-of-25 passing for one touchdown and a 104.6 rating. He had no turnovers, no sacks. The Jets also watched tape of Wallace completing 20-of-28 passes, including three touchdowns and no interceptions in a 24-21 loss in 2008 to New England.

5. While Wallace is not set to start, both Holmgren and Mangini have seen the 29-year-old Wallace play enough solid games against good teams to believe he can start. They like his ability to stay away from turnovers (25 TD passes compared to 14 INTs). In 2008, he started eight games when Matt Hasselbeck was injured, and had 11 TD passes compared to three INTs. He completed 59 percent of his passes, had a rating of 87.7.

6. Wallace is only 5-foot-11 and was a pure athlete who has had to learn the intricate parts of the position at the NFL level. He also was stuck behind Hasselbeck, who was a backup until Mike Holmgren traded for him and made Hasselbeck a starter in Seattle. Wallace is very quick, and the Browns offensive coaches are already having some fun drawing up plays with Wallace and Joshua Cribbs in the Wildcat formation. Wallace has played a little bit of receiver. Cribbs was a quarterback at Kent State.

7. The Browns were very impressed with new right tackle Tony Pashos. One coach said the 325-pound Pashos reminded him of "Ryan Tucker," both in terms of his powerful blocking and no-frills personality. Pashos also told the Browns "I love to play in cold weather." The coaches said, "You'll get your wish on that."

8. On Sunday, I wrote about the possibility of Shaun Rogers being traded. I did a poor job of explaining the situation. I should have written something like, "While the Browns have no serious trade talks for Rogers going and seem to want to keep him, down the line that can change . . ." Instead, I came across as saying they want to dump the guy, which obviously is untrue.

9. I do think some talks can heat up for him near the draft, because Rogers is one of the Browns' few assets who can be traded and bring value in return. In fact, the uncapped year that has created 212 restricted free agents has put a lid on possible trades. These players can't be dealt until they sign their tender offers, which most of them absolutely hate. That's why players who are already signed to long-term deals are attractive in deals.

10. While the Browns have made some moves, none has addressed the huge need in the defensive secondary. That tells me that are looking at Eric Berry and Joe Haden with the No. 7 pick, and still shopping for defensive backs. They need at least two starters, and a strong backup.

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i remember they brought him in for a visit but i don't remember if he signed.

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i remember they brought him in for a visit but i don't remember if he signed.

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Just checked on the Bengals site.. Matt Jones is listed.. they apparently signed him!

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thanks. there goes my crazy cat idea, lol.

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If Seneca Wallace is our starter next year, I will puke. Nobody hires some aged backup to be a starter.

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If Seneca Wallace is our starter next year, I will puke. Nobody hires some aged backup to be a starter.

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Whatever you say.

People who write off Seneca just because he was a backup are ignorant. He's played very well in the games he has started in Seattle.

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Seneca Wallace wants to challenge for starting role as Browns QB; 'The future is bright in Cleveland'
By Mary Kay Cabot
March 09, 2010, 10:13PM

Wallace can't wait to get to Cleveland and fight for the starting QB job. "The future is bright for us in Cleveland,” he said.CLEVELAND, Ohio -- New Browns quarterback Seneca Wallace is coming to Cleveland with winning the starting job on his mind.

During a radio interview Tuesday in Seattle on 950 KJR, Wallace was asked if he believes that his former coach Mike Holmgren is bringing him here to start.

"Yeah, that's the way," Wallace said. "I'm coming in with a lot of confidence and trying to come in and spark the team a little bit. It's time to kind of start fresh."

Wallace, who was traded to the Browns on Monday for a late-round pick -- one that might be conditional according to some reports -- said he was excited after talking to Holmgren Monday.

"We talked about some good things," he said. "Like I said, I'm excited to be going there. That's all I can say. You've got to wait and see what happens."

Wallace, 29, agreed that he's in his prime. He started 14 games for the Seahawks in relief of Matt Hasselbeck, going 5-9.

"That's why I know the sky's the limit," he said. "As long as I take advantage of every opportunity I get there in Cleveland, we'll see what happens from there. But I'm really excited about being back with Mike and [working with coach Eric] Mangini. The future is bright for us in Cleveland."

Wallace, drafted and groomed by Holmgren, said it'll be tough for the team president not to coach.

"Mike has always been a guy who wants to have control -- and have control of every player on the football field especially on the offensive side of the ball," he said. "I'm pretty sure we'll see a lot of him on the field standing around and overlooking things. But I think he understands this is Mangini's team and he has to let him do what he has to do to make us successful."

Wallace said Holmgren didn't use him much at other positions, as he was too valuable as the backup quarterback. But "it was unfortunate I couldn't get on the field a lot more and do what I was capable of doing."

He also said he hopes to starting talking about a contract extension beyond the 2010 season. He was on his way to Cleveland Tuesday night and will take his physical on Wednesday.

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Um, I can't stand Brady Quinn.

I don't think we have a legitimate franchise QB on this team.

Franchise QBs are not washed up aged backup QBs from other teams. I know people have rosey glasses over this guy, but please, take those glasses off. Dude is a nobody and isn't gonna lead us to the promised land. No matter how you try to spin it.

He is a backup, plain and simple, and that is what he was hired for.

We need our go-to legit guy. Who is currently not on the team.

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I don't think we disagree. Ha. He is unrealistic as anything other than a stop gap. And really, as a stop gap, he would suck enough that fans would commit hari kari over it when our season is once again wasted. We have no good QB at this point. We have no money shot guy.

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If Seneca Wallace is our starter next year, I will puke. Nobody hires some aged backup to be a starter.

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Take off the purple glasses. We need a real QB.

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Take off the purple glasses. We need a real QB.

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Eventually.

But Seneca is good enough for the next few years while we build the rest of the team. He won't lose us the game, unlike Quinn and DA used to with ineffectiveness and turnovers.

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