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ESPN's Adam Schefter reported today that the Browns "have offered Quinn to other teams,'' but a league source told the Plain Dealer that the Browns have not actively tried to trade anyone, including Quinn.
So are we going with, Mary Kay Cabot or Adam Schefter?
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Is that even a question? Schefter.
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I agree. I was just asking because a few people have questioned Schefter.
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I won't believe this until it happens.. but if they do trade Quinn.. I've been thinking all day that the Browns will draft Colt McCoy in the 3rd..
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Adios Captain Checkdown.
This could be one of the best decisions by a new FO, clean sweep out the QBs and the baggage that goes with them.
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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Somehow, I see us grabbing McCoy too. Just a hunch.
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I don't think there is any way McCoy is around in the 3rd. The same with Tebow. If we want them we have to take them with our 2nd round pick.
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But..............but.............I thought Holmgren said it wasn't equitable to judge a QB without giving him 3-years worth of starts? 
I'm glad we're going in a new direction, even if I'm not the least bit sold on Seneca freakin' Wallace as our starter.
In the Wallace thread I said I thought we weren't done acquiring QB's. Clearly, we aren't.
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dunno how the mary kay can write this given there's nothing in the article to support her claim but...
Having watched her on TV, she's clearly so pro-Quinn that she'll say anything to make Quinn look like the good guy.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
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dunno how the mary kay can write this given there's nothing in the article to support her claim but...
Having watched her on TV, she's clearly so pro-Quinn that she'll say anything to make Quinn look like the good guy.
agreed. couldn't stand her coverage of quinn because of how ridiculously biased she was.
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I have never been sold on Quinn. I've hoped he'll be what we all want (local boy does good), but I haven't seen him show that he can be a quality starter. Even last year during the anderson/Quinn debates, I always said the best should start no matter who that was. Quinn was better than anderson, but not by much, IMO.
After all the QB problems we've had, I'll glady put my faith in the hands of a guy that developed Favre and Hasselback.
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I am not sure where to post this but clearing the deck of our qb class of last year leaves me thinking he has a QB in the draft on his radar.
Since most starting QB in the league are first round picks with a few exceptions, (if memory serves) He has to be looking at a way to land one quick.
I can not see Wallace as a long term answer, system or no system. And Delhomme is as washed up as you are going to get.
This just leaves me with the thought: Here we go again.
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I kind of had that feeling both would be gone. Think about how bad our QB play was last year. Unfortunately we are a year too late.
I am glad we are cleaning the slate, but I seriously hope that bringing in Delhomme and Fargas is just for Courtesy and nothing more..Jake is done and boith players are clearly on a sharp decline. I think what I ultimately would want at the QB position is to trade Quinn for whatever we can get for him.
Trade for McNabb as the starter and if that means trading Quinn, Rogers, and a 4th or whatever it is that is fine. Draft McCoy and let him learn from the third QB spot for 3 years ala Aaron Rogers. McCoy is said to have a lack of arm strength, but he is a very accurate QB and I think he holds a record for accuracy in a game at like 80% or something. Not that I am pimping him, but He can be had in the 2nd or third round and would fit the offense we are morphing into. No one will be calling for him with a proven Vet starting and McNabb could establish this system so when he is done McCoy or whoever can step right in.
I like Bradford, I really have grown to like him and I was not a big fan of his. I just think we can get more bang for our buck going vet with a top 3 round of the draft QB. I won't be upset at whatever they do, because we have hit bottom and there is nowhere to go at that position but up..unless it is Delhomme..uggh That's just my opinion though..
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Here is my take, and nothing more... I see this scenario playing out... Seattle signs Charlie whitehurst to an offer sheet.. But wait they do not have a third... do you see where this is going. Curtains open, Mr. Hasselback, welcome to the Ceveland Browns for a third round pick... And the next thing is, I have the same feeling as everyone else. We draft Mr. McCoy.. I am throwing this out there so bash me, but it does make sense.
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Trade for McNabb as the starter and if that means trading Quinn, Rogers, and a 4th or whatever it is that is fine.
Whoa there!! Why don't we throw in one of our extra RBs too?
McNabb is a little old and beat up to bank that much on him. I think he'd be good for another 2 years as long he we keep him healthy, 3 if we keep him really clean. I really wouldn't want to give 3 players for him, though.
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I just don't see a first round QB, unless we trade back into the round with some extra picks. That would be the 3rd QB since 99 in the first, and I think the fan base would go ape unless he was a very sure thing.
I can see a rookie 2nd round QB riding the pine in Holmgren U for a year or two while 2 mid range vets take the over the offense.
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I also wonder why Caroll hasn't reached out to Booty. I remember him pimping him pretty good. Anything can happen and none of us really have a clue, but I think we are sure they are not done. For someone that knows how important and stressed the importance of the QB position is..I can't for a second believe he would be content with a Delhomme/Wallace combination.
"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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I tend to agree with you Dawgman, but you will probably catch all kinds of hell around this forum for having that opinion. These guys *KNOW* their football and they somehow *KNOW* Quinn sucks. 
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Quinn's game against the Lions was pretty good though.. even though we did lose at the end with Stafford and his injured shoulder.
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You are really giving up one sure player for another. They would be doing us a favor in taking Quinn and a Proven QB is more valuable than Rogers and a fourth to us at this time. Unless you are ok with results like last year. Rubin did fine and the D actually was better without Rogers. He still has value now but won't in a couple years IMO. His latest injury could be a prelude to him never being the same player or participating in a 16 game season again.. I like Rogers, but would rather have a QB. Maybe that is too much or maybe you ask for a 5th with that..Like I said, whatever it works out to be value wise. And if you want to throw in a RB that is fine to..there is not one player on this team besides Thomas, Mack, and Cribbs and Pontbriand  that I would be afraid to give up.
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Oh lord......somebody said Delhomme. SURELY this FO would not even remotely consider it. With that said.....I feel (especially if Quinn leaves) we will sign a vet and Delhomme would come cheap.  I hope Quinn and Seneca are the one two next year though.
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I don't profess to "know" Quinn ..... but 1 thing I do know about many successful QBs is that they often start out reckless and untamed, then have to tone things down and harness their desire to make every play. This seems to be the opposite of what we've seen out of Quinn. Rather than making aggressive mistakes, he makes passive ones. He isn't the guy who just needs to learn and tone it down a little to be successful ... he's the guy who somehow has to learn how to open it up That seems to me to be the harder path of development. I was also disappointed in Quinn's accuracy last year. Now, perhaps he isn't as inaccurate as he showed last year ... but many people have said that QBs don't develop accuracy in the pros .... and I think we saw this with Anderson ..... and I just have to wonder if Quinn is in the same category. If Quinn is outr starter, then I hope he lays lights out. My "gut", however, says he's all but gone. I tend to listen to my gut lately, as it has grown while my back has been messed up ... and I don't want to make it mad a me because it might just kick my butt ......... 
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Did you actually watch Quinn when he played? There is not one aspect of his game that makes you stop and say he can be a good QB in this league. Maybe I missed something? After 14 games I think that is all anyone needs to see with him..including Holmgren obviously. I'm sorry, but after three years with him..and this whole situation, I think it is just time to move forward without him or Anderson. We need to freshen up the stink around here, and moving on will allow this city to come off the kool aid high and give him the opportunity to throw 5 yard dumps elsewhere.
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Oh lord......somebody said Delhomme. SURELY this FO would not even remotely consider it.
With that said.....I feel (especially if Quinn leaves) we will sign a vet and Delhomme would come cheap.
I hope Quinn and Seneca are the one two next year though.
If they do consider bringing in Delhomme, or God forbid they acutally sign him it would be an awful move if he was anything other than a 3rd QB.
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To be honest,i wasn't thrilled with drafting quinn.I am not opposed to drafting bradford,but the margin for error is slim.Delhomme is obviously not a sexy pickup,but like someone said he could help a young qb we draft,and help him along the way.me personally...i'm all for berry.QB is a must though to be successful but where do we take one?
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I wonder if Carolina's changing their QB coach had an impact on Delhomme? They brought in Rip Scherer (or whatever) who was our QB coach under Crennel. Jeff Davidson is their offensive coordinator. Eh, who knows? They had a great rushing attack .... so the pressure should have definitely been off. Davidson was quoted as saying that he would have liked to have coached Anderson given the chance ..... so was Carolina's offense set up to be a deep passing attack? Could Delhomme be more successful in a shorter WCO type attack?
I didn't watch many Panther games ..... so I really don't know.
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"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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I wouldn't be surprised if DA ended up in Carolina. IMO...Delhomme fits our system better. DA probably fits the Carolina system better because its not a pure WCO. But ours aint really either...... 
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every QB needs 3 years to get into the league... give him this year if he fails you been here thanks for the services get out.....
My point is that he's had those 3 years. He couldn't improve quick enough in his rookie camp to pass Anderson on the depth chart. He didn't impress enough to take over for Anderson in camp or during the season in 2008. For every time Anderson hit edwards in the hands and he dropped it, he'd have 4 others that missed edwards. In 2009, Quinn didn't impress enough to keep Anderson off the field. By his 3rd year in the league, a 1st round QB should be able to take over a team and keep it, whether he was riding the bench or not. It's not that his development has been too slow, it's that he hasn't developed quickly enough. He's had the time. He should be uncontested as the starter by now, if he's of starting caliber.
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Very well put. Also, considering how he slid in the draft because of Question Marks and now three of our own head coaches..well two and Holmgren and Heckert have shown 0% faith in him to even just hand the reigns over has to say something..How could that many "Football" People be wrong about him? He was fools gold from day 1 and many bought it.
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i don't think its about having faith in Quinn.. I think they just want to get their own guys in here.. period.
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If a coach/GM/Pres is going to choose "his guy" over someone better qualified, he should be fired.
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While Quinn has a very slim chance of becoming someones starter right off the bat, he would become one of the better back-ups in the league, and could even turn out to be a steal if placed in the right situation.
if that is the case, then why trade him?
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While Quinn has a very slim chance of becoming someones starter right off the bat, he would become one of the better back-ups in the league, and could even turn out to be a steal if placed in the right situation.
if that is the case, then why trade him?
If Holmgren, Heckert, Haskell and Mangini believed that, there's no way they would trade him.
The question is ... do they believe that?
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Actually .... what I really think is going to happen is that the Browns will let other teams have their Wildcat ...... We're gonna have the WilderCats! We'll draft Tebow, and line him, Cribbs, and Wallace all up in the shotgun ..... snap the ball to one of them ... and generally confuse the living hell out of the defense .....
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i don't think its about having faith in Quinn.. I think they just want to get their own guys in here.. period.
You don't see them bringing 'their guys' in at LT do you?
It has everything to do with not having faith in Quinn, because ... drum roll ... he's done nothing in the NFL for anyone to have the slightest ounce of faith in him.
I've made no bones about my dislike for the guy, so I guess my comments must be taken with a grain of salt...
...but his NFL career is *barely* different from Charlie Frye's, with the exception of their school, physical appearance, hype ... outside of that ... not much difference. Hard worker who can't cut it.
And, like with Frye, you have a bunch of deluded Browns fans talking about their 'potential' ...
I shudder at the thought of Delhomme ... but it beats Quinn. At least Delhomme comes with stopgap expectations.
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