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I just finished watching about a half hour of video on him.
I know that the concensus around here seems to be that he has off field personality issues (I think).
Watching the vids, to my untrained eye, he's got a quick release, fairly strong arm and he appears to be accurate.
So, tell me,,1. is that assesment reasonbly close and 2. what's the other hang up about the kid?
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He will get unabashedly bashed because he's from Notre Dame.
Talent-wise, I don't remember anything earth-shattering, and I pretend to watch a lot of college football.
But with Bradford's injury, and Tebow's other upsides, I just do not know. I'm sticking to NOT taking a 1st round QB. Period.
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Remember, the highlight films only show the good stuff. I don't think he's that accurate to be honest. Pretty good arm and smarts though. I have him ranked as a mid 1st rounder for his on field play.
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Yeah Deep, I know highlights are called highlights for a reason..  Point is, there are a helluva lot of highlights out there on the kid.. I've read that he's a turd on the personality side.. Actually, I read on another site that some folks say his attitude reminds them of what Steeler fans are seeing now with Big Ben... But I can't seem to verify it.,
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My point is that if you watch a lot of Derek Anderson highlights he'll look like an All-Pro QB. The negatives are a huge part of it. Try watching some actual games.
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My big concern for him is the same I had for Quinn. Who'd he play? Who'd he beat?
Getting beat by USC and Pitt is one thing but last year he had losses to Michigan, Navy, and Connecticut. His big wins? Nevada, Purdue, Washington and Wazu.
I know it's not all on the QB as far as the win losses go. You just have to wonder about these guys, Quinn and Clausen, and their ability to trasition to the speed the likes of the Ravens or Steelers.
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Posted Dec. 29, 2009 Junior Quarterbacks - Jimmy Clausen I bet you never thought in the past month that Notre Dame junior quarterback Jimmy Clausen is one of the most underappreciated quarterback prospects in the history of the NFL Draft. But after reading this entry, you just might change your mind. First, I am going to tell you why you might not like Clausen, and let's be real here, there is a lot of bias against him. Some criticism is warranted, but a lot isn't. Notre Dame is the most hated football program in America, period. They are the Duke of the gridiron. Automatically, you hate Clausen because he went to Notre Dame, just like you hated J.J. Reddick because he went to Duke. If you want to make an analysis as objective and professional as possible, then you need to cut the crap and get over the Notre Dame hate if you have it - and a lot of that is out there. Think about it: if you put Sanchez on Notre Dame and Jimmy Clausen at USC, then Sanchez is the hated prospect and Clausen is the beloved underclassman. Maybe you don't like Clausen because of the blond, spiky hair, or the limo appearance he had when he was a senior in high school to declare for Notre Dame. These aren't "low profile" characteristics and automatically, you might have disliked him. For whatever reasons you're down on Clausen, please put them in the back seat and have an open mind when reading this entry. Clausen just amassed one of the most impressive junior seasons among pro-style quarterbacks in the past 10-20 years. Let's remember that Clausen had a very bad offensive line this year for Notre Dame. Sure, he had good weapons, but the running game was poor and receivers Michael Floyd and Kyle Rudolph missed significant action (eight games missed total between them). When Floyd went out, Clausen stepped up. With a bum turf toe, he didn't play at all in the second half and led the team to a game-winning drive to beat Purdue. The following week, he posted 422 passing yards against Washington. Over the next three games (USC, Boston College, Washinton State), Clausen threw for 774 yards, six touchdowns and zero interceptions. Clausen is a huge reason for Golden Tate's big season as well. While Tate is a talented player, he couldn't have done it without Clausen's extremely high level of accuracy. Numerous times, Clausen played through pain this season. He led his team in games in crunch time, and was without a doubt the most clutch quarterback in the nation this year. Criticizing Clausen because he had talent around him is a very poor argument. It isn't like Clausen was putting up just above average statistics - he dominated opponents. He showed a very high football IQ and rarely forced the ball in coverage. Did he throw some balls up for grabs? Sure, but Peyton Manning does the same thing occasionally to Reggie Wayne. Drew Brees lofts the ball up for Marques Colston in the red zone. Philip Rivers relies on Vincent Jackson. Quarterbacks can't do it all by themselves. One statistic that can't be discussed enough is Clausen's 7:1 touchdown-intercpetion ratio, which is absolutely unheard of among junior quarterbacks in pro-style offenses. This is just ridiculous. It doesn't happen and it isn't supposed to happen. Give the man some credit where credit is due. The bottom line is Clausen certainly needs to be looked at as one of, if not the most polished junior quarterback prospect in the history of the NFL Draft. I didn't say the BEST junior quarterback prospects because he doesn't have the physical skill, but he is certainly one of the most NFL-ready. Analyze the statistics of a select group of quarterbacks in the spreadsheet below; all of these stats were taken from each quarterback's junior season. Aside from Matthew Stafford (I'm including him because I had him No. 1 overall on my big board), these highly thought-of quarterbacks that have gone on to outstanding success in the NFL. Clausen simply blows everyone out of the water. His touchdown-interception ratio puts Peyton Manning's 1996 season to shame. His completion percentage is a good five points ahead of Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger. Clausen threw six less interceptions than EVERYONE. Clausen's ranks across the board: 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st. I just don't understand how someone like Todd McShay can say Clausen is a second-round talent when you consider how his statistics compare to some of the NFL's current greats. I'm not a fan of just analyzing statistics, and my evaluation of Clausen really doesn't have very much to do with them. All I am doing is putting his season into perspective. The perspective proves that Clausen is worthy of much more respect than I feel like he is getting at the moment. We will probably never see a better junior season ever again. Charlie Weis leaving the college game means that there is one less West Coast offense in the NCAA. Over the next 10 years, I fear that nearly all snaps are going to be taken out of shotgun and NFL front offices are going to be throwing darts and evaluating prospects based on physical tools only since the schemes are so easy to execute. Clausen isn't executing an easy scheme - he is executing the toughest scheme on the national stage. Every week the camera is on him, and every week he delivered. If Notre Dame's defense was just above average, this team would have won 10 games. If you don't like Clausen because he is cocky, then that is fine. I just hope you are consistent and also say Rivers is a bad NFL quarterback because he is cocky - because a slightly confident leader can't win games in the NFL, right? Maybe if Philip Rivers went to Notre Dame... Good Article on Clausen from www.walterfootball.com
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Clausen isn't executing an easy scheme - he is executing the toughest scheme on the national stage. Every week the camera is on him, and every week he delivered.
Quinn operated in the same scheme. It's not that he can't run a certain offense. It's the level of competition he's running it against that I question. 2008 wins against San Diego State, Washington, Michigan, Navy, and Hawaii. Losses that year to BC, Syracuse and Mich State. He lost to every ranked opponent he faced in college. Again, I know it doesn't all fall on his shoulders but it still has to make you raise an eyebrow.
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Clausen isn't executing an easy scheme - he is executing the toughest scheme on the national stage. Every week the camera is on him, and every week he delivered.
Quinn operated in the same scheme. It's not that he can't run a certain offense. It's the level of competition he's running it against that I question. 2008 wins against San Diego State, Washington, Michigan, Navy, and Hawaii. Losses that year to BC, Syracuse and Mich State. He lost to every ranked opponent he faced in college. Again, I know it doesn't all fall on his shoulders but it still has to make you raise an eyebrow.
All anyone needs to do is look at the pass defenses of the teams he beat and lost to this year.
Clausen is going to be a train wreck in the NFL. If someone drafts him high, they are going to be making a huge, Ryan Leaf-esqe mistake.
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That can said of every QB in the draft:
Dan LeF.- Who'd He play (competition)
Colt McCoy- Short, Spread
Bradford- Shoulder, Spread, greatest offensive line in College, How well does he take getting beat on...etc
Point is there is a problem with every prospect the goal is finding one where you can see past the problems
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That can said of every QB in the draft:
Dan LeF.- Who'd He play (competition)
Colt McCoy- Short, Spread
Bradford- Shoulder, Spread, greatest offensive line in College, How well does he take getting beat on...etc
Point is there is a problem with every prospect the goal is finding one where you can see past the problems
And I'm saying that Clausen's problems are very hard to look past. He's a dick off the field and hasn't beaten anyone with a reasonable pass defense in college.
He's going to be Quinn but without the good attitude. I foresee a LONG drop down the boards for him, maybe even into the 2nd round.
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And I'm saying that Clausen's problems are very hard to look past. He's a dick off the field and hasn't beaten anyone with a reasonable pass defense in college.
He's going to be Quinn but without the good attitude. I foresee a LONG drop down the boards for him, maybe even into the 2nd round.
Clausen maybe a tool off the field but so is Rapistburger (He won 2 superbowls) and Philip Rivers. Would I mind Rivers on the Browns...heck no. Seriously which problem isn't hard to look over. You're concerns are the same for Bradford (Besides Texas who did he beat) and especially LeFeveour.
Don't get me wrong I think he's a tool but I don't think that precludes him from being a good NFL QB. Shoot even Peyton Manning had the can't win the big game argument against him in college. No QB has ever been the perfect prospect.
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And I'm saying that Clausen's problems are very hard to look past. He's a dick off the field and hasn't beaten anyone with a reasonable pass defense in college.
He's going to be Quinn but without the good attitude. I foresee a LONG drop down the boards for him, maybe even into the 2nd round.
Clausen maybe a tool off the field but so is Rapistburger (He won 2 superbowls) and Philip Rivers. Would I mind Rivers on the Browns...heck no. Seriously which problem isn't hard to look over. You're same concerns can be put on Bradford and especially LeFeveour.
Don't get me wrong I think he's a tool but I don't think that precludes him from being a good NFL QB. Shoot even Peyton Manning had the can't win the big game argument against him in college. No QB has ever been the perfect prospect.
I'm not talking about winning the big game, I'm talking about beating people with a pass defense that is better than 80th in the country.
Clausen is prone to mistakes and taunts people on the field. He has a massive ego, a big difference between Big Ben and Clausen. Also, Rivers was a better college football player and was much more accurate than Clausen.
He'll come in and have good mechanics and footwork, but where it matters, in the head and with the arm, he's below average, unlike Rivers and Big Ben.
He's not a 1st round QB and I pray that the Browns don't consider him in the 1st.
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My point is that if you watch a lot of Derek Anderson highlights he'll look like an All-Pro QB
Ok, this is a bit annoying,, did you think I didn't understand that? I Do understand that,, Quit talking about the damn highlights and tell me about what you KNOW about the kid... Is he someone that is getting a bad rap undeservingly,, or did he earn it?
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While Tate is a talented player, he couldn't have done it without Clausen's extremely high level of accuracy.
Hmm,, accuracy.., Ok, we know that's needed... right?
If you believe everything in that article, then it appears that the kid is getting a bum rap...
Maybe he's worth considering?
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Point is there is a problem with every prospect the goal is finding one where you can see past the problems
Does that fall into the old saying,, nobody is perfect?
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1) Clausen is very accurate. To me he is a much better verision of what Quinn was supposed to be. Clausen would be great WCO QB.
2) Clausen is a douche...can Holmgren and Co live with that fact. If he is taking the Browns to a Superbowl I could care less. I don't watch football for human interest stories.
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thanks Loki,,
can you tell me why he's got this rap as a bad guy? Cause I really don't know?
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can you tell me why he's got this rap as a bad guy? Cause I really don't know?
When he declared to go to ND he arrived in a limo. Then there was a bar fight (which could happen to anybody). I mean he was hyped as the Football version of Leborn James.
You know how you heard Big Ben was always a tool but you never had concrete evidence.... its similar to that. I'm sure some guys from that area know more than I. The limo thing really turned me off but whatever. If the Browns draft him I'll support him and wouldn't be upset by the pick.
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Daman for you: rterback | Notre Dame | JR Jimmy Clausen Height: 6-2⅝ | Weight: 222 | 40-Time: 4.75 Jimmy Clausen | Notre Dame Fighting Irish Official Bio Stars Strengths: Good height and bulk --- Arm strength is more than adequate and can make all of the necessary throws --- Great throwing mechanics with a quick delivery --- Super accurate passer with terrific touch, timing and anticipation --- Very smart with an excellent football IQ --- Knows how to operate under center, recognize blitzes, read coverages and go through progressions --- Takes care of the ball --- Able to buy time in the pocket with his feet --- Can throw on the run --- Tough and will play through pain and injuries --- Is confident with a fiery field presence and ice water in his veins --- Hard worker --- Media savvy and has proven that he can handle the spotlight --- Experienced --- Superb bloodlines. Weaknesses: Borderline cocky and entitled with a personality that rubs some people the wrong way --- Not a great athlete --- Can be overly cautious and too quick to check down, throw the ball away or take a sack --- Has to windup to really zip the ball --- Floats the deep ball at times --- Might not have a ton of upside --- Is still maturing --- Durability is a concern. Notes: Was a three-year starter for the Fighting Irish --- Brothers Casey and Rick both played quarterback at Tennessee --- Started getting national media attention in middle school and was labeled the "LeBron James of College Football" --- Was a celebrated recruit who won just about every prep award and honor imaginable --- Began working with highly-regarded quarterback guru Steve Clarkson in the 8th grade then spent three seasons under the tutelage of offensive mastermind Charlie Weis in college --- Underwent surgery to repair a minor injury to the elbow on his throwing arm in 2007 --- Played through a painful toe injury in 2009 that eventually required surgery to repair a couple of torn ligaments following the season --- Voted a captain by his teammates in 2009 --- One of the most prolific passers in Notre Dame history despite only playing three seasons --- Made major strides in the leadership department as a junior, showing a much better on-field demeanor and taking his team on a number of impressive game-winning fourth quarter drives --- Extensive experience running a pro style system, a factor which can't be underestimated in this day and age of the spread offense --- Was essentially groomed to be an NFL quarterback from a very young age and has somehow managed to live up to sky-high expectations in the face of intense scrutiny --- The worry is that some of the Jay Cutler-esque qualities of his personality could begin to take their toll in the locker room if he lands in a bad situation or with a dysfunctional franchise --- A polished signal caller with an outstanding pedigree and all of the tools to be a top-notch starter at the next level. http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/QB/Jimmy-Clausen.phpEdit: The things I like more about Clausen than Bradford is I think Clausen as a slightly better arm and Clausen performed a heck of alot of 4th quarter comebacks. IIIRC I can't think of too many games where Clausen didn't have to lead a 4th qtr scoring drive to either tie the game or give ND the lead.
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hey man,, that's exactly what I was looking for and didn't find on my own,, Thank you Loki,,, Perfect OK,, the Limo,, ahh, I can live with a primadonna,,, I bet you, one meeting with Holmgren and the kid will learn that that's not a way to live in Cleveland... and certainly not as a Brown. Rubbing people the wrong way.. that's harder to define.. I guess I don't have any answer for that. not athletic enough.. wow. can make the throws, strong arm, accurate... call me crazy,, but I think that's athletic enough. Just saying. Folks, I really don't see a reason NOT to at least consider him.. if anyone has reason that can be substantiated,, let's hear it? hell,I'll even take reasonable rumors at this point 
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When he declared to go to ND he arrived in a limo.
And announced it from the College Football Hall of Fame.
Numerous times I have seen him push other players after games, stare down the other sidelines after big plays, taunting the other team. Let's not act like he has done nothing to own up to his rep.
As for him being "super accurate" well, I've never seen it in him. This year was his best year at 68%, but before that he wasn't all that great. Not to mention he holds the ball too long and gets hit a ton because of it. He also had Floyd and Golden Tate to throw to, both of whom will be first two round picks *Tate this year and whenever Floyd comes out.*
And, again, he's never done anything against a team with a pass defense better than 80th in the country. He lights up the bad defenses and is over matched against the good ones.
If Clausen were smart, he would have stayed in another year to give himself more stock, prove that he isn't just a product of the system, the same system that has provided nothing in the NFL.
I don't see the big difference between him and McCoy as far as accuracy, except for the fact that McCoy is better. I'd rather have McCoy as a leader as I think his leadership skills, athleticism and composure are all far superior to Clausen. I'd much, much rather draft McCoy than Clausen.
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Seems to me last year the talk was on how strong this years QB class would be in the draft... What a difference a year makes....
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Seems to me last year the talk was on how strong this years QB class would be in the draft... What a difference a year makes....
If Bradford doesn't get hurt, this class would be on par with just about every other class in the past few years.
I still think Bradford's injury is very much overblown.
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I agree...I wonder if they don`t use the injury as a safety net..That is if he fails.. would they use that for the reason why..
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if anyone has reason that can be substantiated,, let's hear it? hell,I'll even take reasonable rumors at this point
He`s been seen at night clubs with Big Ben... That a good rumor..  ... Sorry Daman...not trying to ruin your thread.. could`nt resist on this rainy night...
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j/c Dont buy to much into the who he beat or lost to because Tebow won ALL the big games....and i know what people have to say about him. You look at it that way....kinda waters it down eh? 
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Dont buy to much into the who he beat or lost to because Tebow won ALL the big games....and i know what people have to say about him.
You look at it that way....kinda waters it down eh?
Again, it's not about who won or who lost. It's how he performed against teams with good and bad defenses.
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hey man,, that's exactly what I was looking for and didn't find on my own,, Thank you Loki,,, Perfect
OK,, the Limo,, ahh, I can live with a primadonna,,, I bet you, one meeting with Holmgren and the kid will learn that that's not a way to live in Cleveland... and certainly not as a Brown.
Rubbing people the wrong way.. that's harder to define.. I guess I don't have any answer for that.
not athletic enough.. wow. can make the throws, strong arm, accurate... call me crazy,, but I think that's athletic enough. Just saying.
Folks, I really don't see a reason NOT to at least consider him..
if anyone has reason that can be substantiated,, let's hear it? hell,I'll even take reasonable rumors at this point
Rumor has it that Clausen will not get past the Redskins at 4.
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For whatever reasons you're down on Clausen, please put them in the back seat and have an open mind when reading this entry.
Clausen just amassed one of the most impressive junior seasons among pro-style quarterbacks in the past 10-20 years.
Let's remember that Clausen had a very bad offensive line this year for Notre Dame. Sure, he had good weapons, but the running game was poor and receivers Michael Floyd and Kyle Rudolph missed significant action (eight games missed total between them).
When Floyd went out, Clausen stepped up. With a bum turf toe, he didn't play at all in the second half and led the team to a game-winning drive to beat Purdue. The following week, he posted 422 passing yards against Washington. Over the next three games (USC, Boston College, Washinton State), Clausen threw for 774 yards, six touchdowns and zero interceptions.
Clausen is a huge reason for Golden Tate's big season as well. While Tate is a talented player, he couldn't have done it without Clausen's extremely high level of accuracy.
Numerous times, Clausen played through pain this season. He led his team in games in crunch time, and was without a doubt the most clutch quarterback in the nation this year.
Criticizing Clausen because he had talent around him is a very poor argument. It isn't like Clausen was putting up just above average statistics - he dominated opponents. He showed a very high football IQ and rarely forced the ball in coverage. Did he throw some balls up for grabs? Sure, but Peyton Manning does the same thing occasionally to Reggie Wayne. Drew Brees lofts the ball up for Marques Colston in the red zone. Philip Rivers relies on Vincent Jackson. Quarterbacks can't do it all by themselves.
One statistic that can't be discussed enough is Clausen's 7:1 touchdown-intercpetion ratio, which is absolutely unheard of among junior quarterbacks in pro-style offenses. This is just ridiculous. It doesn't happen and it isn't supposed to happen. Give the man some credit where credit is due.
The bottom line is Clausen certainly needs to be looked at as one of, if not the most polished junior quarterback prospect in the history of the NFL Draft. I didn't say the BEST junior quarterback prospects because he doesn't have the physical skill, but he is certainly one of the most NFL-ready.
Analyze the statistics of a select group of quarterbacks in the spreadsheet below; all of these stats were taken from each quarterback's junior season. Aside from Matthew Stafford (I'm including him because I had him No. 1 overall on my big board), these highly thought-of quarterbacks that have gone on to outstanding success in the NFL.
Clausen simply blows everyone out of the water. His touchdown-interception ratio puts Peyton Manning's 1996 season to shame. His completion percentage is a good five points ahead of Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger. Clausen threw six less interceptions than EVERYONE.
Clausen's ranks across the board: 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st.
I just don't understand how someone like Todd McShay can say Clausen is a second-round talent when you consider how his statistics compare to some of the NFL's current greats.
I'm not a fan of just analyzing statistics, and my evaluation of Clausen really doesn't have very much to do with them. All I am doing is putting his season into perspective.
The perspective proves that Clausen is worthy of much more respect than I feel like he is getting at the moment. We will probably never see a better junior season ever again. Charlie Weis leaving the college game means that there is one less West Coast offense in the NCAA.
Over the next 10 years, I fear that nearly all snaps are going to be taken out of shotgun and NFL front offices are going to be throwing darts and evaluating prospects based on physical tools only since the schemes are so easy to execute.
Clausen isn't executing an easy scheme - he is executing the toughest scheme on the national stage. Every week the camera is on him, and every week he delivered. If Notre Dame's defense was just above average, this team would have won 10 games.
If you don't like Clausen because he is cocky, then that is fine. I just hope you are consistent and also say Rivers is a bad NFL quarterback because he is cocky - because a slightly confident leader can't win games in the NFL, right?
Maybe if Philip Rivers went to Notre Dame...
SPOT ON...I shoulda wrote that one...
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When Floyd went out, Clausen stepped up. With a bum turf toe, he didn't play at allin the second half and led the team to a game-winning drive to beat Purdue.  Don't know why you guys are arguing about him?? If he can do this St Louie will have to turn 12 offers for #1pick.  I know what he means, but that ain't how he wrote it.
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He`s been seen at night clubs with Big Ben... That a good rumor.. ... Sorry Daman...not trying to ruin your thread.. could`nt resist on this rainy night...
Let's hang him high
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Again, it's not about who won or who lost. It's how he performed against teams with good and bad defenses.
OK,, Like Deep South said,, you can't have it both ways.. Tebow beat a bunch of people,, played great in almost all of his games.. and you know how he's viewed...
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Again, it's not about who won or who lost. It's how he performed against teams with good and bad defenses.
OK,, Like Deep South said,, you can't have it both ways.. Tebow beat a bunch of people,, played great in almost all of his games.. and you know how he's viewed...
If Tebow had any sort of mechanics, or, you know, an ability to take a snap from under center, he'd be considered a 1st rounder.
you had a good run Hank.
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If the Browns Pick Claussen it WILL BE THE WORST PICK ever in browns history... pass on him... either get tebow in the 2nd or colt mccoy stay away from bradford and claussen
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If the Browns Pick Claussen it WILL BE THE WORST PICK ever in browns history... pass on him...
Great,, you''ve made a decision,, would you share why you feel that way?
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i think this was posted before and my reaction at the time was, replace "clausen" with "quinn" and it reads the exact same way when quinn came out. this is all hype. sure, replace some of the numbers to be more accurate, and i understand clausen is better than quinn was as a prospect but the point still stands. now from the weaknesses from another post: Quote:
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Borderline cocky and entitled with a personality that rubs some people the wrong way --- Not a great athlete --- Can be overly cautious and too quick to check down, throw the ball away or take a sack --- Has to windup to really zip the ball --- Floats the deep ball at times --- Might not have a ton of upside --- Is still maturing --- Durability is a concern.
sounds very familiar...i want nothing to do with that.
daman - people here will always say ND plays a factor into people's opinions but that drives me nuts with how untrue that actually is. aside from that, if you look at those two points in the weaknesses, particularly with the cautiousness and eagerness to check down, i don't want quinn 2.0, even if he's slightly better. that a scout might say he has no upside is shocking. i typically avoid the "strengths" in a scouting report and look at diction in the "weaknesses" section. if the guy viewed to check down too often often and may not have much upside, that speaks tons.
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I personally liked Quinn coming out better than I like Clausen right now and I didn't want us to draft him. I wanted and was very happy with Thomas.
Given what I now know about Quinn I want no part of Clausen. The only way we could get him would be to use our first round pick and I just don't see him being worth it. I would rather wait and take one of the other QB later in the draft.
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A lot of people will disagree with this assessment but Clausen reminds me of Kurt Warner. The same quick release and very accurate. The problem, however, is that Clausen is the complete opposite of Warner when it comes to attitude and I think that's what sours a lot of people on him. If he had Tebow's personality, he would be the number 1 draft pick without question IMO.
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NOT a problem and since stats DONT LIE i'll use them
2007: 7Tds 6 ints sacked 35 times 62 rushing attempts for -187 yds ( THATS NEGATIVE) with a 56.3 comp percentage
2008: 25 TDS with 17 ints sacked 21 times 54 rushes for -73 yds (again thats NEGATIVE) with a 60.9 comp per
2009: 28 TDS with 4 INTS sacked 24 times 59 rushes for -95 ( AGAIN THATS NEGATIVE) with 68.0 comp percentage
in 3 years he has a grand total of 5 rushing tds
in 2007 ND went 3-9 although he didnt play in 2 games and no bowl games and 6 of those games he had UNDER a 60% comp per ( 35 vs. BC)
in 2008 ND went 7-6 with a hawaii bowl win and in 8 games had under a 60% comp rating( 47.6 vs. MICH)
in 2009:ND went 6-6 without a bowl game and in3 games under 60% comp percentage (55.8 vs. usc)
altogether he is 16-21 ( losing record) with horrible stat
we wanna draft him WHY???????
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