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And I think people need to stop assuming that Delhomme is our starter just because we signed him.
79...I believe I read that Holmgren did not promise Delhomme anything if he chose to come to Cleveland...other than he would have to compete for the job.
Found it... Holmgren insisted he did not -- and would not -- promise Delhomme a starting job.
"I told him when I met with him that we'll never say that to a free agent guy, tell him, 'You're the starter,'" Holmgren said. "I think if you promise guys those things, and then something happens (to change that), then you have a disgruntled player. We're not going to do that."
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Yeah, and Holmgren also said it wasn't right to evaluate a QB without X-amount of starts, a number greater than Quinn has started.
And now Quinn is history.
So taking anything these guys say as gospel leads to flawed conclusions.
Delhomme isn't "promised" the starters gig, but he was brought here to be the starter, he'll get the majority of 1st-team reps, and it's his job to lose.
That's as close to a "guarantee" as it gets.
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Delhomme didn't come here to "compete" for the job. It's his to lose.
I do not know if this is completely true or not, but at 7 million ? I tend to agree with it.
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Yaaaaay, we are going to get rid of the only qb who could actually beat Pittsburgh.
Yaaaaay
I hope you're being sarcastic.....Quinn was 6 for 19 for 90 yards. Again, 6 for 19 with 90 freaking yards! And you think Quinn beat Pittsburgh? Try looking at the 160 yards Cribbs/Jennings rushed for on the ground and the crazy sacking defense that put up eight sacks. Brady was under center yes, but he had about as much to do with the win as I did sitting on my couch. Again, hoping you're being sarcastic.
Anyway, people are acting like MH is picking Delhomme for our starter the rest of this decade. Delhomme will be starting, Seneca will be backing up, and our future franchise QB will be drafted next month. As soon as the new QB gets drafted, it's only a matter of time before he's under center. By removing Quinn and DA....it makes that QB's path under center that much easier. No Quinn and DA for the fans to argue or pine for.
Who else were we supposed to go after as a stop-gap Qb until a young one can be developed (without giving up good draft picks for)? If Quinn is still starting, it looks like we're giving him the keys to the future. With an again QB like Delhomme, we know he's only gonna be here until the young guy is ready.
And this whole notion that $7 million is too much. Number 1, it's not your money. Number 2, it's an uncapped year. Number 3, who freaking cares.....Delhomme is here to help get us through a certain number of games until the young QB is ready. With Quinn on the roster, the young guy would never have a chance. And lets be honest, if Quinn was the next "John Elway" we would have already known that by now.
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Could not have said it any better... Dump one interception machine to grab another...  *CENSORED* A Blind, drunk at a urinal has better accuracy at hitting his target than Jake *CENSORED* Delhomme
I will be watching to see how this plays out but as for excitement, I haven't been this underwhelmed with the team in a years...
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In the game, Quinn went 6-19 for 90 yards ......
That;s like saying that his 10-17 performance the next week, for 66 yards with 0 TD and 2 INT was vital to that winning effort as well.  LMAO
It;s also like saying that Anderson won the Buffalo game with his 2-17 performance .... 
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We finally have our QB!!!!!!!
Superbowl! Superbowl! Superbowl!
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Dude, Jake can hand off the ball just as good as Quinn can. Face it, he's gone.
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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Face it, he's gone.
I don't think anyone doubts that...but as your signature states, we are allowed to disagree.
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Face it, he's gone.
I don't think anyone doubts that...but as your signature states, we are allowed to disagree.
Yeah, I can see where your coming from too. The 'here we go again' stuff gets old.
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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I don't see why all the torches and pitchforks are allcoming out regarding the Delhomme signing......
I'm more than happy having him as our starter for a year. He's better than any qb we have had in years.
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I don't see why all the torches and pitchforks are allcoming out regarding the Delhomme signing......
I'm more than happy having him as our starter for a year. He's better than any qb we have had in years.
LMFAO!! SERIOUSLY??? .. Quite bogarting that doobie and pass this way! You probably loved the Dilfer, Frye, Holcomb, Garcia, Couch years too...
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The new regime of the Cleveland Browns never appeared sold on Brady Quinn. So it was no surprise Saturday when the team made its most dramatic move to date to reshape its quarterback position.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns signed veteran quarterback Jake Delhomme to a two-year contract, likely signaling the end of the Quinn era in Cleveland.
Delhomme comes to the Browns with a lot of starting experience. Barring any dramatic or unforeseen moves in free agency or the draft, pencil in Delhomme as Cleveland's 2010 starting quarterback.
Browns president Mike Holmgren said he does not believe in quarterback competitions. So there will not be one between Delhomme and Quinn. In the meantime, Holmgren will continue to shop Quinn to see what value he can get for the former first-round pick.
If nothing materializes, Quinn will be Delhomme's backup along with Seneca Wallace. But the safe money right now is that Quinn will not wear orange and brown next season. Quinn already has his house for sale, and it's best that both parties move on at this point.
Quinn was hailed as a Columbus, Ohio product who could finally bring the Browns back to prominence. Instead, he spent most of two seasons backing up former Pro Bowler Derek Anderson and was benched in 2009 after a disappointing start.
There should be some level of interest in Quinn, who has a limited amount of starts and was never surrounded with quality players in Cleveland. We listed five possible suitors earlier this week in the AFC North blog.
But despite all the excitement that came with Quinn coming to Cleveland three years ago, everything likely came to a close Saturday with Cleveland signing a 35-year-old quarterback.
But what is Quinn's current trade value?
Quinn generated some interest last year, but the Browns declined because they were unsure if he was their franchise quarterback. After another inconsistent season that ended with Quinn on injured reserve, his stock has taken a significant hit.
This much we know: It's impossible to get a first-round pick for Quinn at this point. So that guarantees Cleveland would "sell low" in any trade scenario compared to Quinn's draft status.
There may be teams out there that believe Quinn could be productive in the right situation, particularly if the Browns' asking price is cheap. But based on growing evidence, it appears less and less likely Quinn will be Cleveland's Week 1 starter this fall.
Who might be interested?
After garnering the opinions of our ESPN.com NFL bloggers, I compiled a list of five possible destinations.
5. Arizona Cardinals
Skinny: The organization doesn't seem willing to hand over the keys to Matt Leinart without making him compete for the job. Could Quinn be that competition?
4. Seattle Seahawks
Skinny: Seattle traded Seneca Wallace to Cleveland, so there is precedent to work out a deal with Holmgren's former team. The Seahawks are visiting with Anderson this week, but if they fail to reach an agreement, Quinn might enter the conversation.
3. Carolina Panthers
Skinny: Jake Delhomme is out and Matt Moore is in. But are the Panthers really 100-percent convinced Moore is a franchise quarterback who can lead them to a Super Bowl?
2. Denver Broncos
Skinny: The Broncos sent out feelers for Quinn last year when the Jay Cutler situation went down. They ended up with Kyle Orton. But now they could have both this year and get Quinn on the cheap.
1. Kansas City Chiefs
Skinny: Former Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis is the offensive coordinator in Kansas City, and Quinn knows that system like the back of his hand. So Quinn wouldn't be bad insurance for Matt Cassel. Defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel also was Quinn's head coach in Cleveland.
Ok we have the aging Delhome and the average Wallace as QB options and this article lists 5 teams that may be interested( in case we have a fire sale)in Quinn.
1) KC: Wies would play to Quinns talents he he would light it up in KC and Quinn backers in Cleveland with our mediocrities at the position would wonder...why not us. Holmgren and Mangini lose fan Cred.
2) Denver: excellent Wrs , a fine running game and bright head coach and Quinn has a great opportunity to send Orton back to the bench as he plays for a head Coach that tried to trade for him last year. Brady excells in Denver while Mangini and Holmgren lose fan Cred.
3) Carolina: we claim Their run down model and Quinn beats out the starter. Armed with a top running game and an elite WR , Brady Quinn plays very well and fans in Cleveland see Jake and MH and EM lose fan cred.
4)Seattle: the "genious" MH trades for the average Wallace because he "likes him" and Quinn plays lights out when the starter goes down with injury and MH loses fan cred in Cleveland.
5) Arizona: The Starter Matt "Hot Tub" Lienhart lose the job to Quinn, who surrounded by explosive offensive talent , he excells and leads the Cards to the playoffs and MH and EM have their mediocrities at QB and lose fan cred.
6) any one of those previous situations have the HUGE possibility of making our new Team pres and head Coach both lose fan confidence as they are organizations with top coaching, talent and a need for a young QB to step up. If Quinn is dumped in another famous three beans for a cow trade to one of those teams, this will only make Mangini and Holmgren look bad.
My teams to reduce this PR nightmare would be
1) the Rams: an offensive train wreck with a bad Oline, Quinn has no chance and MH and EM look like they were correct
2)49ers: Quinn is a backup and stays on the bench or plays on the QB carousel and never establishes himself, MH and EM look correct.
3)New Orleans: Quinn stays as Drew Brees caddy and the staff is safe in Cleveland: ditto for Ind as well
4)New England: Quinn is traded for a #3 and stay Tom Bradys caddy
5)Buffalo: Quinn is traded to a team short on offensive talent and Coaching and is in the same Siberia he left.
While the article states five teams where Quinn would thrive and most likely start if the Browns trade Quinn for chump change to one of those five this deal blows up in both the face of Holmgren and Mangini and is a PR nightmare as the fans in Cleveland watch Quinn become THE GUY in one of those other locales and see aging mediocrities behind center.
my list, all a poor fit for Quinn allows the staff to save face in Cleveland, is Poison for Quinn and is a balm to the fans who may be angry if Quinn thrives elsewhere.
So while these teams are Poison to Quinn career they are the antidote to th hubris of a head coach who wants Quinn GONE and reduse exposure to the fan cred for MH.
Holmgren is SADDLED with a COACH that HATES QUINN. He is saddled with being forced to GIVE AWAY what could be a TOP QB and have schlebs at the position should he trade Quinn to one of the five teams in the article.
If he keeps Quinn Mangini will NOT play him so he cannot keep him, and if he trades Quinn to one of the five teams in the article this trade has a huge probability to blow much of his fan goodwill and trust in Cleveland that Holmgren now has.
This is all on Holmgren, and Mangini gets to have someone else do his dirty work as Quinn is given away before his 32 games needed for evaluation and "I don't believe you give away talent" statement make Holmgren look untruthful and has been had by the HC. This trade has all the makings to make Homlgren look bad should quinn go to one of the fab five. If we "give away" Quinn he must be sent to some football Siberia where he would be either guaranteed to languish on the bench( Ind, NE, NO) or be surrounded with horrible talent( Rams, Bills) because the fab five must be out or all face could be lost. I hope for Quinn it is KC if we trade him.
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thats my thought too Clutch.
Plus he's a QB that a change of scenery could bring that boost of confidence needed to get back to being a good QB.
Think Kurt Warner, Trent Green (in KC), and even Drew Brees really...
It could backfire like Treent Green in Miami or Kurt Warner in NYG...but it could work, and Holmgren knows his QBs...plus, Seneca Wallace becomes instant insurance.
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I don't see why all the torches and pitchforks are allcoming out regarding the Delhomme signing......
I'm more than happy having him as our starter for a year. He's better than any qb we have had in years.
LMFAO!! SERIOUSLY??? .. Quite bogarting that doobie and pass this way! You probably loved the Dilfer, Frye, Holcomb, Garcia, Couch years too...
har har har, yeah seriously. 
And yes I did like the some of the Couch years, especially 2002. You know the only year we went to the playoffs. 
All of the other ones........ummmm no.
What QB have we had that is better? Get off Quinns jock.
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Man it sure is nice to live here in reality... DeNILE is not a river in Egypt Clutch but hey, get your hopes up that he is actually going to do something worth a crap and I will save my optimism for when I actually see this team buy something worth a clue... Have a feeling my Sundays will be more enjoyable with this approach...
As for our 2002 season... LMFAO... Sad that we actually are resorting to talking about a fluke that happened 8 years ago...
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Man it sure is nice to live here in reality... DeNILE is not a river in Egypt Clutch but hey, get your hopes up that he is actually going to do something worth a crap and I will save my optimism for when I actually see this team buy something worth a clue... Have a feeling my Sundays will be more enjoyable with this approach...
As for our 2002 season... LMFAO... Sad that we actually are resorting to talking about a fluke that happened 8 years ago...
Hey man if you don't like the beans don't drink the coffee. If your so under-whelmed with the way we are doing things don't watch.
I'm sure everyone else is tired of the boo-hoo attitude from people like you.
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Holmgren is SADDLED with a COACH that HATES QUINN. He is saddled with being forced to GIVE AWAY what could be a TOP QB and have schlebs at the position should he trade Quinn to one of the five teams in the article.
If he keeps Quinn Mangini will NOT play him so he cannot keep him, and if he trades Quinn to one of the five teams in the article this trade has a huge probability to blow much of his fan goodwill and trust in Cleveland that Holmgren now has.
LOL, yeah sure. Top QB?
I don't wish anything bad on the guy, but posts like this is why he's getting shipped out. MH doesn't want to deal with the same crap Romeo and Mangini got by not playing the hometown favorite.
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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LOL.... Thanks for telling me how to be a fan.... I have been around this board and the old one for that matter for enough years to see the likes of you guys that try and convince others that differ from your opinion... Keep padding your post count with the other sheep and go back to grazing... I prefer to watch OUR team WITHOUT the Rose colored glasses and traded in my Orange Koolaid years ago for some Liquor...  Now the sun is out here in N.C. and I got a truck that needs washed and waxed... That will most definitely prove to provide a better result than hanging out here on the board.. Back to lurking I go...
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DS,my friend,you've got to give him some slack.It isn't snowing and it isn't raining,right now.Those are reasons to celebrate for us here in Believeland.
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Jake Delhomme? Really?
Could not have said it any better... Dump one interception machine to grab another... *CENSORED* A Blind, drunk at a urinal has better accuracy at hitting his target than Jake *CENSORED* Delhomme
For those of you that are drinking the koolaid on this signing you are only *CENSORED* kidding yourself... The dude sucks *CENSORED* . Th
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Look, any time a player switches teams he, in theory, could improve dramatically upon his weaknesses. Sometimes it happens when a team takes a flyer on a guy who has under-performed, and failed to impress, and even more often it doesn't. Sometimes the guy becomes servicable .... a backup and/or role player ..... and sometimes the guy lingers for a year or 2 and then fades into NFL obscurity.
Most of the players the Browns have let go over the years have either become backup/role players .... or faded into NFL obscurity. There's a reason for that .... they simply were not that good to start with.
Quinn is a guy with a high draft status and a Weis inspired pedigree .... yet no one is beating down the doors trying desperately to get him for their team. We don't hear how teams are callign the Browns to see if he could be available. Instead we hear the Browns basically saying "We'll keep him as our 3rd string guy quite happily unless someone offers us something for the guy". What's the value of a 3rd string QB? Maybe a 6th ... at best? From what Holmgren has said, I don't see anyone stepping up to make even this modest investment regarding acquiring Quinn.
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Tim Couch didn't look as bad as Quinn has in his first three years with less talent around him. Delhomme's career is finished but I'm definitely not sad to see Quinn go.
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Tim Couch didn't look as bad as Quinn has in his first three years with less talent around him. Delhomme's career is finished but I'm definitely not sad to see Quinn go.
Thank you. A fifth grader who knows nothing about football could give a pretty good analysis on Quinn's play. Sometimes it is that obvious.
Yet we have people who are still complaining he only got 12 games and want to compare those 12 starts with the first 12 starts of every successful QB in the league.
Sometimes it's as simple as you either you got it or you don't. He don't got it.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Ak Joe,, I believe you are overthinking it..
I don't think Mangini,Holmgren or Heckert are worried what looks good. They have got to be more concerned winning.. and that's as it should be..
where they trade Quinn to is going to be based on what they get in return..
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If you are a NFL qb and a team gives up on you....no worry the Browns will find a place for you.And the kicker is,it doesnt matter what regime is in charge.
How many teams were knocking down the doors of Wallace and Delhomme.....
The Browns were better off going after a Jason Campbell who looks to be out if the Redskins plans.
Its a overated fact that you need a 13 yr vet to help a QB progress.
I think Peyton Manning,Drew Brees,Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers are proof of that.
What you need is a darn good QB's coach and a OC that has a clue.
Mike Holgrem and Tom Heckart better hit a grand slam with whatever QB they draft this year.
IMO,Brady Quinn got a raw deal as a Brown.....
I love how people say Tim Couch never had a great cast around him......yet Brady is supposed to move the chains with guys named Royal,Massaqoiu, and Stuckey and a washed up Jamal Lewis.
Not mention Brian Daboil makes Maurice Carthon look like Todd Haley.
good luck to Jake in December when he hangs up a ball in those Stadium winds with that Adam Sandler arm and its picked for a 16th time.
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It's really hard to try get a read on MH. He says one thing one today and then changes coarse the next day. Almost like he's trying to confuse everyone involved and he's doing a good job of it. He seems to pacifiy the media and the fans, by telling them something he thinks they want to hear. He even puts things in quotes, then goes in the other direction. He just lets everone draw their own conclusions, so I think he might have several things in mind, that he really doesn't want to reveal. No one has any idea how this draft is going to go, it's really up in the air, especially with no CBA and it looks as though there won't be one in the near future. It certianly puts a different outlook on every decision made these days, as they may turn out to be critical ones.  I really don't see any other qb's in this draft except JC and SB that are going to make it big in the NFL. But,our guy MH may have one in mind that very few teams if any, know about and may grab him with a 5th or 6th rounder.  It could be he doesn't like anyone in this draft at all. Therefore he gets all the people he can get, to fill a number of holes we still thave left and hopes somebody steps up to fill them. If all else fails and JD falls on his face, throws 20+ picks, he saves face by bringing in SW who gets a few wins in the end like last year. Then we end up with a top 5 pick again next year, where the qb he really wants can be had for the taking. Especially if a rookie salary cap of some kind is in the works by then.  I have a gut feeling, that with all the years this brain trust MH has put together has in the NFL, plus the success they have all had,there is much more to this than meets the eye. Something tells me that the ever looming CBA contract, has a lot more to do with all these decisions than any of us on here can fathom. The owners may have a whole different idea than the players union, whick could even get de-certified as they have threatend.  The NFL in the 2011 season (if there is one), may look nothing like the current one or the one we might envision it to be. So hold onto your hats and your seats, we might be going for quite a ride in the near future !!!!
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I certainly see your point, Toad, but I'm just not sure I agree with it. I don't really have any reasons for not agreeing, lol, outside of I just don't. But, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if you're right, because you're always right. I will ask you, and everyone else, this. When people are saying 7 million, is that because all the guaranteed money is coming this year, similar to Watson? Does anyone know what the 2nd year of his salary is going to be?
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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The Browns were better off going after a Jason Campbell who looks to be out if the Redskins plans.
At the end of the day, you may be right about what they should have done.. But frankly, saying that at this point is like talking to a chef who's cooking a stew and telling him that the way he's doing it isn't right.. all before he finished adding ingrediants
What if, and I'm just thinking out loud here, what if Holmgren brought in Wallace to be the starter now, Delhomme to be a mentor (remember, he's schooled in the WCO) and intends to draft someone he thinks can be groomed to be the starter?
What if that were the plan? would you then stop knocking this move?
Just wondering
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It's virtually impossible for me to believe that:
A) We're going to pay Delhomme $7 million in the first year of the deal to be a backup
B) Delhomme would agree to be a backup here when he could go home to Louisiana and be a backup on a team which is a legitimate Super Bowl threat.
Just sayin'...........
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Your scenario is the only way I calm down and accept this. Anything else has me scratching my head asking what just happened?
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(Lets pretend it didn't happen.)
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It's virtually impossible for me to believe that:
A) We're going to pay Delhomme $7 million in the first year of the deal to be a backup
B) Delhomme would agree to be a backup here when he could go home to Louisiana and be a backup on a team which is a legitimate Super Bowl threat.
Just sayin'...........
I agree. At this point jake is penciled in as starter, and not long in to camp, he will be inked in unless he just really stinks up the joint....which I don't think he will do..
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The Browns were better off going after a Jason Campbell who looks to be out if the Redskins plans.
At the end of the day, you may be right about what they should have done.. But frankly, saying that at this point is like talking to a chef who's cooking a stew and telling him that the way he's doing it isn't right.. all before he finished adding ingrediants
What if, and I'm just thinking out loud here, what if Holmgren brought in Wallace to be the starter now, Delhomme to be a mentor (remember, he's schooled in the WCO) and intends to draft someone he thinks can be groomed to be the starter?
What if that were the plan? would you then stop knocking this move?
Just wondering
who says that MH will/must/should find the QB of the future this year?
Jason Campbell was given the high tender.
Bradford and Clausen look to be off the board by the time we pick.
Colt McCoy, Pike etc. may not thrill the current FO.
There is always next year. Why reach or overpay?
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I agree 100% Peen.
Jake is not rolling in 7 mil to be a backup. Seneca is a 6th round investment for a reason.....not saying he wont be given a chance,,,just more like you said.....it is Jakes job to lose.
You dont have to win every game just the next one!
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LOL.... Thanks for telling me how to be a fan.... I have been around this board and the old one for that matter for enough years to see the likes of you guys that try and convince others that differ from your opinion... Keep padding your post count with the other sheep and go back to grazing... I prefer to watch OUR team WITHOUT the Rose colored glasses and traded in my Orange Koolaid years ago for some Liquor...
Now the sun is out here in N.C. and I got a truck that needs washed and waxed... That will most definitely prove to provide a better result than hanging out here on the board.. Back to lurking I go...
looks like you need to come up to Line Judge's man cave for a dose of Blind Faith and a cup of Orange Colored Glasses.
Thanks for providing me with some names for my home brew concoctions......
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Of course Jake is the starter I dont see how anyone could think otherwise. Seneca has played in plenty of games over the years during Hasselbacks injuries, he isnt starter material. He is a solid hard working backup who probably wont complain to much about it. Holmgren spent all that time trying to make him a receiver because he isnt a very good QB. Well at least Delhomme vs Wallace will be entertaining to watch people debate. 
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...
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Another question.
Why are people so upset that Delhomme might be our starter? Anyone who sees him as anything other than a stop gap is fooling themselves.
And, anyone who really saw the Browns truly competing this year is fooling themselves, too. Yes, I think we should be better than last year, but I don't expect us to truly be "competing" this year.
JMHO
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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I, sadly, agree 100%. Quote:
We are right back to where we were in 1999, drafting a qb. What a waste of a decade. A monkey could have put us in a better position in 11 years.
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JMHO
I have not read every post on this long thread, but I believe that the general consensus is that most are not enamored with this move.
I live just outside of Charlotte and therefore get to see alot of the Panthers and have never been enamored with Jake Delhomme. By all accounts from friends that have actually meet the guy, and newpaper reports though,.....he is a class act and someone we should be happy to have on the team.
The question is can he QB though and from what I have seen the last two years........we are no worse off than we were with Quinn and Anderson.
The ONE thing we now have though is someone that will be more than willing to tutor and work with whatever young QB our front office brings in this yr. or next. He is a smart player and a quality teamate. He is also a football player.
I firmly beleive that Holmgren and Heckart have their eyes on a late round QB this yr.. Some one other than Bradford and Clausen. Even if it is a 2nd rounder, we have enough late rounders to move back up into the 2nd or 3rd and acquire more defensive or OL help.
I guess to sum my rambling up. I don't really like the move, but I do understand it.
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