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Without really looking at who was all available, I would have preferred any of them, but they are less realistic.

The decision was made mainly because (a) Holmgren has a little bit of a history (but obviously in the 4-3) of taking speedy and/or undersized LBs (Hill, Tatupu for example) and (b) my personal feeling is that the dropoff from him to the next set of OLBs is larger than the dropoff of Jones/Allen to the next set of LBs. And Gresham was not taken due to the signing of Watson. Had Watson not signed a week or two ago, I'm sure he'd have been the pick.

Figured with our shakeup in trade, QBs and picks, I should try a new draft for us....

1. Joe Haden, CB
Recouped his stock on his pro day and I still think he's the safest bet for us at this spot. I think Berry will be gone.

2. Jerry Hughes, OLB
Stock has slipped but I think he's a good fit as a 3-4 OLB rather than a DE.

3. Nate Allen S
Might not be available but if he's there, gives us the a good leader in the secondary with good skills.

3.John Jerry G
Might be a bit of a reach but this is about where he's slotted as best at position I reckon.

3. Andre Roberts, WR
Speed, great hands, fluid, gets seperation. Answered alot of questions at Sr Bowl and Combine. Might be a slight reach but I think he's got skills.

4. Arthur Jones, DT (DE in a 3-4)
Run stuffer. Good at recognizing gaps and filling them. Didn;t show alot of pass rushing skills but as a 3-4 doesn;t need em as much.

5. Alterraun Verner, CB
Maybe just maybe will be available. May go sooner if people look at his body of work rather than his more average measureables.

5. Stephen Williams, WR
Big body, good speed. Didn;t produce huge numbers in college but worked through alot of QB shuffles. Diamond in the rough?

5. Mitch Petrus, G
Tied combine record in bench. Limited starting experience but shows nice measureables, intelligence and a blue collar attitude to the game.

5. Max Hall, QB
Here's our QB flier. Long term starter. Played well against top competition. Good completion percentage. Average arm but consistent.

6. DeMarcus Granger DT
Big body and talented b ut with injury concerns. Worth a late risk.

6. Kelton Tindal WR
Small school guy but blazing quicks. Can't teach speed....our Al Davis pick for '10.

I'd take that draft as well, CD.

I 'll just throw this in here from a draft site I looked at..



1.7 – Joe Haden CB Florida

2.38 – Sergio Kindle OLB Texas

3.71 –Jarrett Brown QB WV

3.85- T.J. Ward S Oregon

3.92 –Camaron Thomas DT NC

4.105 –Kyle Calloway OT Iowa

5.130 – Major Wright S Florida

5.134 – Mike Williams WR Syracuse

5.137- Amari Spievey CB Iowa

5.146 – Charles Scott RB LSU

6.160– Zane Beadles OG Utah

6.177 – Jordan Shipley WR Texas

6.186- Linval Joseph DT East Carolina

I really don't like the Kindle pick.... but if we got calloway in the 4th and shipley and beadles in the sixth I'd be

I do not think we have a 7th.

I have a feeling we won't end the draft with as many picks as we started it with.

Ridiculously unrealistic.

You think Major Wright falls to the 5th?

Nope. And that is just one of my many problems with it.

I was thinking he would last until the 3rd maybe 4th round. I dont think its insane to think he falls to the early 5th, though unlikely. Where do you think he goes?

Probably the 3rd. My biggest problem is Sergio Kindle in the 2nd. That is insanity.

Not even sure I would want him in the second. From everything I read this guy cant get off a block to save his life, doesn't play the run well, etc... A pure athlete playing football sort of talk.

I think you're reading the wrong sites.

Just went and looked at Wright's site, I got confused with Sean Weatherspoon, or Jerry Hughes I believe.

I know I'm not the only one who knows something about the draft and you know I know it. I also know that Sergio Kindle will not be there when we pick in the 2nd, and that Major Wright won't be there in the 5th.

I also know that site had our picks wrong.

I had the last pick wrong.
And it wasn't a mock I copied..it was from Scout.com's top 200.
I have one from CBS Sports but I'm not posting that one yet.

The Browns are having him in for a visit..

If we get Berry with #7 and then trade back up in the mid 20s to get Taylor Mays I'd think I had died and gone to heaven. With the draft value chart our #38, #71, #92 could get it done. I know most of you think we need a CB but I believe McDonald and Wright would look a thousand times better with two real safeties as opposed to a backup Adams and a WR Furry. More than anything I guess I just want to see those two lite up Santonio Holmes and Hines Ward. A guy can dream can't he?

I would be okay with that, but no for me.

Taylor Mays is an alright prospect but he is highly overrated. He can't cover at all.

Physical freak of nature? Yes. Football Player? Ehhhhhh, maybe.

1.)Eric Berry
2.)Jahvid Best'
3.)Colt McCoy
3b.)Brandon Ghee
3c.)Andre Roberts

j/c..

It really is rather futile to attempt to predict a Browns Mock Draft, without knowing what other deals are going to go down.

I do believe Mangini and Holmgren mentioned there are other deals in the works. I suspect, those deals might include Shaun Rogers, which could bring the Browns additional "first day" draft picks.

We may have to wait until draft to get additional information, therefore all attempts at a mock draft are rather futile, IMO.

I will say this...Holmgren, Heckert and Mangini do have everyone guessing, including me...I have no idea what they are going to do...

...so I will simply wait and enjoy the moment, when it happens....

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I suspect, those deals might include Shaun Rogers, which could bring the Browns additional "first day" draft picks.

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wait, did you REALLY mean 1st day....as in 1st round......or did you mean 2nd day as in 2nd/3rd round....?????

just kinda messing with you as I am still not sure I like this new format. Guess the draft party I attend this yr. will just have to be a THREE DAY draft party........not sure the wife will go for that or not .

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3b.)Brandon Ghee

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I saw a mock that had him in the first round.
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I don't think you guys understand! NFL Draft Bible has him ranked 27th! That means he will go in the 1st round! Don't you know anything?

You'd be better off going by draftcountdown. Scott looks more at where a player will go in his rankings than just how much he likes them.

Draft countdown is the most realistic I have seen in Deep's defense.

They are the only one who has us going with McCoy in the 2nd round. Given our recent interest in McCoy that let's me know that they at least pay attention to the rumblings. Some of these guys just pull stuff out of their butt's. For example, the Chiefs not wanting Berry that high has been the worst kept secret for about a month now, but I've seen several mocks having him go there.

They get more accurate as we begin to approach the draft, but where a guy is based on a mock means jack crap right now. Wait until the visits and the "hard" rumors begin to leak out, and they will get better around the middle of April.

All I was saying is that he wasn't alone in thinking that Kindle could fall into the second round, which you stated you found highly unlikely. Either way, its an interesting perspective and a different scenario to think/talk about. Discount Streuber all you want, but this is what he does for a living and works for a very sizable reputable site.

I was just poking fun at him as he works for NFL Draft Bible.

I agree it is important when making mock drafts to listen to rumblings. And we have been interested in McCoy. But didn't Holmgren also say we won't be taking a QB with our 2nd round pick?

Lot's of crazy info out there right now.

I think Bradford, Clausen, Tebow, and McCoy will all be gone before the 2nd half of the 2nd round.

Yep and we are interviewing all of them..........so much for not taking a QB early..lol.

They can talk all they want, but they have positioned themselves where they HAVE to take a QB this draft........early. Accompany that with the fact that we are bringing in the top 5 QBs for an interview, and it's painfully obvious we are taking a QB in the 1st 2 rounds.

I know alot of you guys want D....D.....and more D in this draft, but you are probably going to get......alot of D with a QB,OG,WR and maybe a late round RB sprinkled in...lol. I would all but bet my house that we walk away from this draft with all 4 of those positions (at least the 1st 3), and I would bet my house that we take a QB in rounds 1 or 2...........early 3rd at the latest.

1. Eric Berry - Playmaker at safety, Ed Reed 2.0, played in a tampa 2 defense with Monte Kiffin at Tennessee. Wasn't able to put up great stats his junior year because he was forced to help out more with run D.


2. Damian Williams - I'm huge on this kid. Could easily be a #1 WR. He's the best route runner in this year's class. Ran a west coast offense at USC. He has good agility. He has a rare big play ability in him. Can create seperation. Very elusive and tough. However he needs to hit the gym.


3. Vladimir Ducasse - Dominating run blocker, very strong finisher, blocks well, could play guard or RT


3. Alex Carrington - Classic bull rusher, He doesn’t do anything special in run defense but he’s very solid. Has very good but not elite strength. Great size for a 3-4 DE and has long arms.


3. Larry Asante - Very good against the run. Big hitter like Taylor Mays. Can tackle very well. Does not have great instincts. Plays out of control, has committed personal fouls in big games


4. Jacoby Ford - Fast as hell, a playmaker that can help return kicks with Cribbs. However very raw as a WR


5. Jevan Snead - Has all the elite physical tools you could ask for from a QB. However that's pretty much it


5. Mike Neal - Very atheltic for his size. Perfect size to be a 3-4 DE. Has a difficult time getting by blockers.


5. Javier Arenas - Decent speed, very intellegent, High character player and a vocal leader. However he is small for a corner


5. Ben Tate - Powerful runner that tries to punish the opposing defenses. Doesn't have blazing speed and isn't very explosive


6. Freddie Barnes - Has good body control and great hands, will catch anything thrown his way. Is solid but not great. Slow for a WR and struggles to seperate from corners


6. Cameron Sheffield - Atheletic and just knows how to get after the QB. However just a mediocre tackler.