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Ok, that made me laugh.

I really don't like having different rules for the posteason and regular season. I'm not sure how I like the new rule, but I hope they make the same change for the regular season.

I keep wondering why if your going to change it you don't just do what every other sport does. If it's baseball then you give them another inning. In basketball they get 5 more minutes. Why not put 8 or 10 minutes on the clock and just let them play football? They could go another 10 minutes under the current rules anyway but this way all of the strategy of the game would come into to play.

I think I read somewhere that the players didn't want another quarter. But something like a 10 minute extension doesn't seem like such a bad idea.

Two things I realized tonight that I hadn't before.

2 What about the clock, what if the first posession in overtime takes 15 minutes of clock time. Impossible, almost, but not.

1 What you have created is a situation, (I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ALL OF SPORTS) where a game ends with a winner without the score changing.
What if team A. the cowboys gets toss and decides to kick at start of overtime.
What if team A the cowboys wins toss, receives kick at start of overtime and kicks a field goal.

What if Cowboys miss that field goal and team b the rams punt on the 2nd possession of overtime. Is the game over with the punt. With still a tie score?

Here is what really gets me.
What if team A the cowboys win toss get first possession and kick a field goal. Team B receives the kickoff (the Rams) How much time is on the game clock? What happens if the rams fail on 3 downs and it is 4th down. The Rams punt and the Cowboys muff the punt and the Rams recover on the 2 yard line.
Do the Cowboys win? Won at the moment the punt left the foot? What if the Punt was blocked but the ball went past the line of scrimmage? Do the Rams get the possible field goal try from the 2 yard line?

What if the first team in OT scores a field goal, and the 2nd team also scores a field goal? The score is tied.

Sudden death overtime is perfect. No controversy, You score you win. period.
Anyone listening to Bob Costas, talk like its not fairrrrr? It was fair for 60 minutes of game time. Bob Costas, go back to baseball, a game that is RUINED! for a century ... a game that can't decide a champion after 161 games.

Answer this ?
What if team A loses the toss, kicks off at the start of overtime and kicks an onside kick a successful onside kick? Then kicks a field goal. do they win??

Answer this ? What constitutes a posession?
What if ( as in the case of a Redskins Cowboys game I remember) 4 fumble are recoverd by the defense on 4 consecutive plays? at least 3

What if this occurs. In the Ohio State vs Miami hurricane Natl championship game in 2002, Maurice Clarett recoverd a fumble by a defensive player who had intercepted a pass and returned the interception over 40 yards. Did the defense have a posession?

The future of playoff advancement looks like this. Team A wins toss and makes a 53 yd field goal. but team B called time out ... the score is still tied.
Team A makes the 53 yard field goal a 2nd time celebrates being up by 3 points but the game continues.
Team b lets the kickoff go into the end zone and starts at the 20 with a touchback. Team B drives 44 yards to the opponents 36 yard line where it is 4th down. Team B lines up for a field goal a 53 yard attempt and something goes wrong with the holder. Team B's holder scrambles around the end headed for the first down marker and gets tackled on the first down marker.

The game, the playoffs ends on a measurement.
The future of playoff overtime ends, not on a clock hitting zero, not on a defensive penalty, not on a score, not on a missed field goal, not on a turnover, ... it ends on a measurement.

This is WORSE than anything that has happened by the 53% of first posession overtime teams being winners.

it ends on a measurement. it ends on a measurement with time on the clock? In overtime? I vote with the 4 teams that voted against this.
Keep it simple, stupid! did not happen here.

Like I had done earlier, we're thinking too much, maybe ?

My understanding is this is only for the playoffs (and THAT is WRONG, like the DH is).

My other understanding is, it's first to six. Doesn't that solve most of your posed dilemnas ? If teams are tied after exchanging FG's, don't you have to keep playing until sombody wins ? You can't end a playoff game with the score "tied,"...right ?

As for a possession, I would define that as your center having snapped the ball to your QB.

The Clarett incident was a possession for Ohio State, but I don't think the Miami recovery by the defense could be constituted a possession for the sake of overtime fairness. (I don't believe that incident happened in overtime anyway, though it could.)

Sorry, I'm mostly with Costas. Fairness and equity are parts of the game. This isn't "Combat Iraq," where a sniper flips a coin to choose his next victim.

The college overtime is fine, except for returns. As someone pointed out, it currently would take the Browns best weapon off the field.

I think part of the best answer is a timed period. I don't like this "first-to-six" crap. If I'm up 2-0 after 7&1/2 minutes, I win.

they get a chance to score.

they blow it they lose. a chance means they get the ball.

what they do with even if there is one second left is up to them unless it is tied. it goes to double over time. (see nba)

obviously if there was a tie... it would continue until time expired.

the point is they are trying to at least let the other team touch the ball.

yep it would end on a measurement. so what? they got a chance. something they never had before

not first to 6 it's both get a shot. if one team scores3 and the other team blows it on 4th down game is over

Thanks,...and good too. The media is all hung up on F-T-S.

So, if I kickoff, and trap the kick returner in the endzone, do we agree that I just won ? Or is that not a "possession" yet for the other team ?

I would say it is,....(in difference to a "Clarett" deal).

my guess is special teams is considered "getting the ball" I'm not 100% for sure though

About 6 pm today I thought of another scenario.

The Browns are in the playoffs on the road and score the tying touchdown with 3 seconds left in the game. The extra point is pending.

Down by 1 the Browns go for a 2 point try and do not make it.

we win becuase I said so...

however, we would lose