|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960
Legend
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960 |
Wow,, this will tick a few of you off..... Quote:
Cleveland Browns cornerback Brandon McDonald earns big league bonus
By Tony Grossi, The Plain Dealer
March 23, 2010, 12:54PM
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Either Brandon McDonald is grossly underpaid or he shouldn't be on the field as much as he is.
For the second year in a row McDonald scored a sizable chunk of change from the NFL's "performance-based pay" program. The system essentially rewards players who play a lot and outperform their contract.
McDonald was awarded $248,403 from the league-wide pool of $109.5 million set aside for the program. That was more than one-half of his base salary of $460,000. His bonus was 24th-highest given out by the league.
McDonald played in all 16 games, starting 10, and had one interception, one sack and was 11th on the team with 47 tackles.
A year ago, when McDonald started 15 games and had five interceptions, he earned $329,803 through the program -- nearly equal his 2008 base salary of $370,000.
McDonald is entering the final season of his rookie contract. He has been demoted at least three times in the past two years, but reclaimed his starting spot each time. His job is in jeopardy this season as the Browns have identified cornerback as one of their top
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/03/cleveland_browns_cornerback_br.html
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,426
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,426 |
I don't notice him on twitter anymore. Does anyone know if he deleted his account after the hitting his girlfriend incident?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109 |
I know he deleted it, but I'm not sure when he did so.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,234
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,234 |
Quote:
Wow,, this will tick a few of you off.....
It would if it were the Browns forking it over to him.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,246
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,246 |
I liked this line:
"Either Brandon McDonald is grossly underpaid or he shouldn't be on the field as much as he is. "
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109 |
Me too. I think it's the latter.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,149
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,149 |
Whether he "rated" it or not, I for one was pretty pleased to even learn there was such a thing.
I think all (or, maybe the majority,...) of their compensation(s) should be based on performance related issues.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960 |
There is truth to that.. hadn't given it a moments thought until I read this piece....
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,577
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,577 |
Quote:
For the second year in a row McDonald scored a sizable chunk of change from the NFL's "performance-based pay" program. The system essentially rewards players who play a lot and outperform their contract.
Just a random thought.. possibly except for the part I bolded would this have described Cribbs in the past?.. I don't know what the qualifier is for "play a lot"
Hmm.. ah well we did re-do that contract anyhoo.
SaintDawg™
Football, baseball, basketball, wine, women, walleye
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,149
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,149 |
Yeah, maybe the word should have been "contribute" a lot,...makes me wonder what Cribbs' "NFL" bonus would have been,....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
Who cares if McDonald got a bonus? We didn't award it, the league did. No big deal.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,531
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,531 |
He doesn't even deserve 50 cents of that.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358 |
Deserves every penny IMO. A starting corner making the three-year vet minimum? He's not a good tackler, no... but he is a decent cover guy. People still blame him for the Denver game 2 years ago when Pool blew his read and didn't cover Royal over the top. For this amount of money (salary + bonus = 1/5 of Robert Royal) I think he deserves it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,833
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,833 |
have they seen him tackle?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,850
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,850 |
As a 5th round pick.. I think McDonald has done well, and has exceeded everyones expectations.. A guy who went to Memphis and is now playing in the NFL.. I have to tip my hat to him.
If he could get out of those mental lapses he has.. he could get his starting spot back.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,950
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,950 |
Quote:
have they seen him tackle?
No one has..... 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,850
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,850 |
BMac and Wright are horrendous tacklers. Both have their moments..
I swear Wright was involved in EACH and EVERY long run a HB had against our team in 2009.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,086
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,086 |
I only remember one good hit. I remember a bunch of whiffs. Maybe if he had to fork over a charity penalty for every blown cover and missed tackle. Nah. Can't imagine that would net out much for him.  
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,089
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,089 |
Apparently the pay for performance bonus is calculated along the lines of:
Blown coverages + (Missed tackles x junky arm tackles) x twitter posts challenging fans to do better DIVIDED BY The number of Browns' fans that think you're still starting quality
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 70
Rookie
|
|
Rookie
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 70 |
Baa zing!
McD would make a decent starter/good nickel if he ever put some effort in. The dude has the tools to succeed, it just seems like he doesn't care.
"Every time that I score, I'm going to get the ball and sign it "To Holmgren" and give it to him just so he has the proof that I'm worth every penny"- JC
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,333
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,333 |
why would i be ticked? the man played for his money...he isn't the only one getting money under this rule..there are 23 ppl ahead of him..
good for him.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960 |
Quote:
why would i be ticked?
To be fair, I did say that SOME would be ticked.... 
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109 |
And at least one person was.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 605
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 605 |
just clickin' Deepthreat. What has the dawgtalk community become? Are we really complaining about a guy who gets paid performance based escalators? REALLY?!?. Personally, I don't care what the amount is, I hope every player we have hits every performance bonus built into his contract. People, Seeing this as anything other than a good thing is twisted.  Next thing you know people will complain if our team gets playoff checks because they only made it to the first round.
"He who buys what he does not need steals from himself."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,877
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,877 |
McDonald deserves a bonus. I had one of his sausage biscuits this morning and it was delicious..... 
"People who drink light 'beer' don't like the taste of beer; they just like to pee a lot."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,681
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,681 |
Quote:
McDonald deserves a bonus.
I had one of his sausage biscuits this morning and it was delicious.....
I like McDonalds.
I have a vested interest, but I liked it before I did....I don't invest in something I don't like.
I still think the Egg McMuffin is the greatest invention in the history of breakfast food since some caveman coaxed one of his buddies in to eating the mess inside that bird shell on a dare.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong ![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/small-gator-chomp.gif)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,877
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,877 |
It's where I shop for all my cholesterol needs.......... 
"People who drink light 'beer' don't like the taste of beer; they just like to pee a lot."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,201
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,201 |
Quote:
just clickin' Deepthreat.
What has the dawgtalk community become? Are we really complaining about a guy who gets paid performance based escalators? REALLY?!?.
Personally, I don't care what the amount is, I hope every player we have hits every performance bonus built into his contract.
People, Seeing this as anything other than a good thing is twisted.
Next thing you know people will complain if our team gets playoff checks because they only made it to the first round.
I don't think folks would complain about this as a performance bonus, because it isn't.
It is a bonus going to a player who was one of our weaker points on the team, who played because we had nobody better to put in his place, and he got the bonus based on the perceived discrepancy between his pay and the amount of playing time he got.
As for me, however, I don't care. He shouldn't have ever been more than a Nickleback here, and he'll be back in that role by summer. If he can get some bonus money along the way, more power to him because I don't see him ever hitting the big payday as a free agent.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,267
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,267 |
Quote:
McDonald deserves a bonus.
I had one of his sausage biscuits this morning and it was delicious.....
IMHO the black coffee can't be beat. I wish I could say the same for Brandon.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,979
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,979 |
Mcdonald covers well sometimes, makes plays that change games sometimes, plays of anticipation that can backfire and he gets beat. Any gf issue is not my business. I'm glad he is on the field over Sorenson or ? . Eric Wright is maybe the best defensive player the Browns have.   
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,950
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,950 |
I'm still shocked n sickened by what I saw him do or not due in the Pittsburgh game this year, I think we all saw him delebritly not tackle a ball carrier, he simpley did not want to get him or do the hitting, he avoided contact, during a game, this wasnt a sidline play or a possible late flag, this was in the middle of the field during the game AGAINST PITTSBURGH....AGAINST PITTSBURGH.....AGAINST PITTSBURGH YOU HIT THE BALL BOY, GATORADE CUP FILLER, YOU hit the old lady in the stands with a steelers jersey on....why not Rothlesburgher hits it...LOL...
Anyway I have never seem anything more sissy than BM in that game, I dont care what the excuse was or is, it's gonna take a few man up games for him to get out of the dog house.
as for the money I dont care, theres more things to life than money. Funny becuase BM lack of tackling has cost him one of those things,
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,620
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,620 |
Quote:
I still think the Egg McMuffin is the greatest invention in the history of breakfast food since some caveman coaxed one of his buddies in to eating the mess inside that bird shell on a dare.
I don't get why the eggs are different on the Egg McMuffin than on the biscuit bacon and egg sandwich. On the biscuit sandwich the egg is all yellow and folded over where the Egg McMuffin it is some mostly white and molded in some pan or something. Why make them different ways?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,681
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,681 |
The egg McMuffing in the beginning was to be almost like a Eggs Benedict with a hollandaise and softer center, but after some testing before product rollout it was determined to drop the sauce and cook the yolk...to messy.
Those eggs are just poached in a egg rig, yolk slightly broken until hard cooked.
Biscuit eggs are beat eggs ladled on to the grill.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160 |
I still think the Egg McMuffin is the greatest invention in the history of breakfast food I have always thought their fries were the best..oh wait..this is about Brandon.. 
He can't even get on the value menu..he's like a expired coupon from last year..worthless..
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 814
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 814 |
I agree with your post TOTALLY. WE have had HORRIBLE safety support since Eric Turner blew town. McDonald,, a kid with some skills has NO SUPPORT over the middle or up top as our safeties routinely blow coverages and make any third and long easy for an QB. Give this Kid a berry at Safety and watch how it helps him. I agree that the lemmings seem ti pick out a player and trash him...years ago it was the center who was so horrible Savage dumped the former #1 pick to move up a couple spots in the SECOND ROUND. Jeff Faine was pilloried as a horrible player, while I thought he had the worst set of Guards in the NFL next to him.. Faine has made several pro bowls, and those guards are all out of the league. I wish people would take a siesta and let this kid develop, if we move him it will be a mistake, and faine, it took THREE YEARS to find a center to make up for that one. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,341
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,341 |
Jeff Faine was a Pro Bowl alternate.
Once.
One is not the same thing as several.
![[Linked Image from i28.photobucket.com]](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/shadedog/mcenroe2.jpg) gmstrong -----------------
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358 |
You guys have to be kidding me ragging on a guy who was a fourth (fifth?) round pick and plays at the minimum salary. Would you rather poteat had started opposite wright? The "tackle" in the Pitt game were ridiculous but that was after the fans turned on him.
This reminds me of the Ricky Davis situation where a guy who probably shouldn't be put into the role they're in but are because there are no better options... the difference being that mcdonald isn't getting benched for trying to win.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160 |
I'm about to rag on U..
First thing..I don't care where a corner is drafted..if he is AFRAID to tackle ,his butt needs to be jettisoned.. news flash, he had several games where he whiffed on tackles,it wasn't just the Pukesburgh game...I don't want anyone on this team like that.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358 |
whiffing and avoiding are different. I was talking about the awful contact-avoidance in the pittsburg game. He's not a good tackler, particularly of running backs, but if we had decent LBs he wouldn't be asked to be.
And I disagree about Wright's tackling "deficiencies," I think he's actually a pretty good tackler for his position and size.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160 |
whiffing and avoiding are different
Course they..but McCreampuff does them both.. he even manages to avoid the whiff.
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum McDonald gets a Bonus
|
|
![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/6WV79RV/Browns-Coach-Sig.png)
![[Linked Image from fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net]](https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/276870_6711658857_1403067853_q.jpg)
