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R.N.C. Spends Thousands on Private Jets, Limos and Clubs, Report Shows
By JEFF ZELENY AND BERNIE BECKER
The Republican National Committee opened an investigation on Monday into why money from donors was paid to reimburse a $2,000 tab at a risqué California nightclub earlier this year, party officials said.
“It was obviously improper – for more than one reason,” said Doug Heye, a spokesman for the party. “It was not a sanctioned R.N.C. activity. It was improper because of the venue.”
As Republicans attempt to win back control of the House and Senate in this midterm election year, several party officials and contributors have raised questions about the financial disparities between the Democratic and the Republican parties. Republican officials opened a review of their spending after the nightclub expense was discovered by reporters for The Daily Caller, an online publication in Washington.
The Republican National Committee spent about $30,000 in February on private airplanes and limousines. But those charges were overshadowed by the $1,946.25 charge at Voyeur West Hollywood, which was described by The Los Angeles Times last year as a “high-end nightclub” with an interior “reminiscent of the masked orgy scene” from the movie “Eyes Wide Shut.”
Mr. Heye, the party spokesman, said that the Republican chairman, Michael S. Steele, was not responsible for the charges. He said the reimbursement was made to a “non-committee staffer,” whom he identified as Erik Brown of Orange, Calif., a political consultant. Mr. Heye said the money would be paid back to the Republican National Committee.
“The chairman was never at the location in question, he had no knowledge of the expenditure, nor does he find the use of committee funds at such a location acceptable at all,” Mr. Heye said in a statement.
Meanwhile, the F.E.C. filings show some $17,500 spent on private jets in February, in addition to more than $12,500 on limousines, which could add to the perception that Mr. Steele has expensive tastes. The filings also list several charges of well over $1,000 at hotels in Washington and elsewhere.
The Democratic National Committee seized on the report Monday.
“If limos, chartered aircraft and sex clubs are where they think their donor’s money should be spent – who are we to judge?” asked Brad Woodhouse, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee. “But, this controversy shouldn’t give voters much confidence in Republicans when they say they want to be put back in charge of federal spending – not that their performance the last time they were in charge would have engendered any confidence in the first place.”
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Almost sounds as if the title isn't accurate.. The RNC seems to want to police thier party and clean up some stuff that shouldn't be..
If I have that right, then I applaud the RNC's efforts...
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...and the dems spend trillions on whatever suits their power grabbing egos. That's what I like about you mac, you're fair and balanced. 
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RNC Fires Staffer Over $1,946 Topless Club Visit
WASHINGTON (March 30) -- The Republican National Committee has fired a staffer who helped organize a $1,946 visit last month to a sex-themed Hollywood club, and the GOP says it will recoup the money from a donor who also participated.
The episode is the latest in a string of questionable spending by the RNC as Republicans prepare for a costly election season in which they hope to take dozens of House and Senate seats from Democrats.
An RNC internal memo says the Feb. 4 outing to Voyeur West Hollywood involved several members of the "Young Eagles" GOP group who had been in Los Angeles for a meeting. An unnamed staffer, who had been warned that such activities did not qualify for reimbursement, has been fired, said the memo from RNC lawyer Ken McKay.
The club features topless dancers and bondage outfits.
RNC spokesman Doug Heye said the committee will be reimbursed by Erik Brown of Orange, Calif., the donor-vendor who billed the GOP for the club visit on behalf of the attendees.
Brown did not respond to an e-mail and phone message seeking comment.
Since November, the RNC has paid Brown's company, Dynamic Marketing Inc., about $19,000 for printing and direct-mail services, campaign spending reports show. He has contributed several thousand dollars to the party.
The most recent financial disclosure report said the RNC spent more than $17,000 for private planes in February and nearly $13,000 for car services. Heye said such services are used only when needed.
McKay's memo says the RNC is committed to using donors' funds efficiently and responsibly.
The $1,946 for meals at Voyeur West Hollywood was the most eye-catching item in the monthly report. RNC Chairman Michael Steele, whose spending decisions have angered some donors in this midterm election year, had nothing to do with the nightclub expenditure, Heye said.
The conservative group Concerned Women for America said the RNC should disclose more about the episode.
"Did they really agree to reimburse nearly $2,000 for a bondage-themed night club?" group president Penny Nance asked in a statement. "Why would a staffer believe that this is acceptable, and has this kind of thing been approved in the past?"
Much of the most lavish spending by the major political parties is associated with fundraisers, which often target wealthy people.
The RNC spent $144,549 for rooms at the Four Seasons Resort in Jackson Hole, Wyo., in 2009. On March 19, 2009, it spent $31,980 for catering by the Breakers Palm Beach in Florida.
The RNC paid $18,361 over the past several months to the "Tiny Jewel Box" in Washington for "office supplies," which may have included trinkets or gifts for big donors. It spent $13,622 at Dylan's Candy Bar in New York City.
Some Republican officials and donors have complained about Steele's spending decisions, saying the party should devote every available dollar to trying to win House and Senate races this fall. He held this year's four-day winter meeting at a beachfront hotel in Hawaii, although it often takes place in Washington.
Some donors grumbled when Steele spent more than $18,000 to redecorate his office. Steele, a former Maryland lieutenant governor, also has received substantial fees for making speeches, even though the RNC pays him a full-time salary.
Steele's supporters say he has brought a refreshing frankness and energy to the party's leadership.
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Good... the RNC appears to be taking care of business, taking responsibility and holding people accountable.
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If only the Dems would do that to the American people who leech of the government, we'd be in business!
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prpl...It was Tucker Carlson who went public with the news of the RNC's extravagant spending on a variety of things, which included the 2k at the sex club.
The RNC is not happy with RW conservative, Tucker Carlson, who has written several articles recently, about spending at the RNC.
It would be safe to say that the Mike Steele and the RNC wishes Tucker Carlson was stranded on some unknown island that had no contact with the outside world.
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Now if the dems in congress could just admit that they have squandered billions of tax payer dollars, make a public admission, and fire some people over it.. we'd be on the right track.
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I fail to see how this reflects pooly on the Republicans ...
Someone did something they should not have done ...... the probelm was found .... the RNC investigated ..... and fired the person responsible.
Frankly, this is what I want and expect to happen.
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Now if the dems in congress could just admit that they have squandered billions of tax payer dollars, make a public admission, and fire some people over it.. we'd be on the right track.
dc...when Dems spend money on the American people you say they "squandered" taxpayer dollars.
...but when the GOP spends taxpayer dollars (borrowing it from China) to provide universal healthcare for Iraqis, you think that's great.
That is the basic difference between Dems and GOP today.
Sorry, but I happen to believe that spending money to see that newborn children in America have Healthcare, is not "squandering" taxpayer dollars.
Helping 30+ million Americans obtain Healthcare insurance is not "squandering" taxpayer dollars, IMO.
Fundamentally, I guess it comes down to a difference in our values..I have no problem paying more in taxes to help fund healthcare for my fellow Americans.
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I could go on about the FBI investigation on the corrupted Demorcat led Cuyahoga County Government but it would take away from all my Obama Internet polling time.
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Now if the dems in congress could just admit that they have squandered billions of tax payer dollars, make a public admission, and fire some people over it.. we'd be on the right track.
dc...when Dems spend money on the American people you say they "squandered" taxpayer dollars.
...but when the GOP spends taxpayer dollars (borrowing it from China) to provide universal healthcare for Iraqis, you think that's great.
That is the basic difference between Dems and GOP today.
Sorry, but I happen to believe that spending money to see that newborn children in America have Healthcare, is not "squandering" taxpayer dollars.
Helping 30+ million Americans obtain Healthcare insurance is not "squandering" taxpayer dollars, IMO.
Fundamentally, I guess it comes down to a difference in our values..I have no problem paying more in taxes to help fund healthcare for my fellow Americans.
I don't make much....I can not afford for my taxes to go up to help everyone else. It's getting harder everyday to make ends meet and I'm supposed to help others? And yes, I have values.
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Fundamentally, I guess it comes down to a difference in our values..I have no problem paying more in taxes to help fund healthcare for my fellow Americans.
Yes it does mac.. I think that people helping people is the American way.. you think that the omnipotent government helping people is the American way...
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Sorry, but I happen to believe that spending money to see that newborn children in America have Healthcare, is not "squandering" taxpayer dollars.
Every newborn in an American hospital gets health care....EVERY SINGLE ONE
This issue is waaay deeper than your attempt to distract people by bringing up the sob stories of people caught up in terrible circumstances.
A government run takeover of medicine and student loans have nothing to do with providing newborns with health care...THEY ALREADY GET IT.
You are not the only person who wants health care for those in bad circumstances...but to pretend that this atrocity of a bill is designed to truly help people is ridiculous.
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Now if the dems in congress could just admit that they have squandered billions of tax payer dollars, make a public admission, and fire some people over it.. we'd be on the right track.
dc...when Dems spend money on the American people you say they "squandered" taxpayer dollars.
...but when the GOP spends taxpayer dollars (borrowing it from China) to provide universal healthcare for Iraqis, you think that's great.
That is the basic difference between Dems and GOP today.
Sorry, but I happen to believe that spending money to see that newborn children in America have Healthcare, is not "squandering" taxpayer dollars.
Helping 30+ million Americans obtain Healthcare insurance is not "squandering" taxpayer dollars, IMO.
Fundamentally, I guess it comes down to a difference in our values..I have no problem paying more in taxes to help fund healthcare for my fellow Americans.
Same ole, same ole. DC has been very outspoken when it comes to Republican spending. The fact is most conservatives that post on here have been You see we conservatives my vote R because they espouse the closest thing that we believe in. When they go back on their word because they care more about being reelected then why they were elected we tend to get rid of them.
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I would say the biggest Ohio scam as of late was the politician that used workman comp money and invested into rare coins. We all pay into workmans comp. I dont see why that money isnt just put into an account and let it stay there. Especially with how much hassel that goes into getting workmans comp to people that actually needs it.
Locally for me anyways, anything that Cafaro (Traficant, his daughter Capri, some local judge now in jail) touches turns to crap.
They are both bad, not much speperates them other than their sales pitch, and everyone turns a deaf ear to their own side..
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when the GOP spends taxpayer dollars (borrowing it from China) to provide universal healthcare for Iraqis, you think that's great.
please do a search on this site and find me the quote where DC thinks that is great. I just tried a couple searches and came up empty on him "thinking that is great"
but, you must have a better memory than the rest of us, so please use it to show us better.
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Mac makes up whatever fits his agenda - then he tells YOU to educate yourself, while he ignores questions asked of him.
If you're not careful, he'll demand you leave HIS country.
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If you're not careful, he'll demand you leave HIS country.
naw, I'm a city kid. he apparently just wants all the "country folk" to leave.
not sure where he plans on getting all his food, but once the huffington tells him that it's okay to borrow money from China to buy african fruit rather than grow it here, i'm sure he'll be fine.
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Good Old Conservative values!! LMAO!!!!.... And reading that conservatives on this site were complaining about spending during the Bush years.. man, talk about revisionist history!!
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And? Two grand at a sex club is absolutely play-money in the grand scheme of what they get to play with.
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Good Old Conservative values!! LMAO!!!!....
And reading that conservatives on this site were complaining about spending during the Bush years.. man, talk about revisionist history!!
Try a couple searches. Here was the first one I found (from arch during the Bush admin)
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I agree vers - the BIG picture is the scary one. Gov't. bailouts, new programs - this country can't afford what we are doing now, let alone adding new programs.
$53 trillion folks. That comes out to something like $440,000 for each household in the states. That is to say, that's what each household owes to cover our national debt along with medicare and social security.
The pain, I'm afraid, has not even started. It's scary. To me at least.
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G.O.P. Squirms as Spotlight Focuses on Its Leader
April 6, 2010
WASHINGTON — Michael Steele was hardly the consensus choice to become chairman of the Republican National Committee, scrambling to the top early last year after surviving multiple ballots in a crowded field.
Mr. Steele’s supporters rallied around him as a compelling advocate at ease making the Republican case on television and someone who would be the first African-American to lead the party. His opponents were apprehensive about Mr. Steele’s equally strong reputation as a showboat, an inexperienced manager given to advancing his own ambitions and prone to bursts of indiscretion. Even as the committee settled on him at the end of hours of balloting, Republican leaders were never quite sure which Michael Steele they would get.
Fourteen months later, the answer has become clear. At a time when the Republican National Committee is looking to take advantage of Democratic troubles and make gains in Congressional elections, Mr. Steele is commanding attention mostly for questionable expenditures by the committee, lagging fund-raising, staff defections and dismissals, an aggressive round of paid speeches and speaking appearances and politically inopportune remarks.
On Monday, confronting criticism of the committee for picking up a $2,000 tab for donors and staff at a West Hollywood strip and bondage club, Mr. Steele said in response to a question on “Good Morning America” on ABC that he and President Obama were being held to tougher standards because they were black.
In the best of circumstances, the head of a party out of power is the voice of the loyal opposition; at worse, the chairman is an irrelevance barely known outside party headquarters, hustling for time on the afternoon cable news shows. But Mr. Steele, who did not respond to a request for comment, has become something else: a remarkably public presence that even some Republicans say is distracting his party at a moment of high opportunity.
That concern spiked as Mr. Steele fired his chief of staff, Ken McKay — a popular figure who, Republicans said, learned of his dismissal when his wife saw the report on MSNBC — implicitly blaming him for spending abuses, including the strip club, that Mr. Steele said he had only learned about by reading his committee’s report to the Federal Election Commission.
The concern is evident in the extent to which big donors are writing checks to other Republican committees and how some prominent Republicans are voicing concerns about him.
“Right now it is crucial for the R.N.C. to get off the front pages of the newspapers,” said Katon Dawson, a former South Carolina Republican Committee chairman who ran against Mr. Steele. “Get back to the mission of winning elections.”
Mr. Dawson, who did not rule out challenging Mr. Steele when his term is up, suggested that Mr. Steele did not appreciate the fact that not all publicity is good publicity, even for a chairman whose role includes keeping his party (and himself) in the spotlight.
“Lee Harvey Oswald had 100 percent name ID and none of it was any good,” Mr. Dawson said. “The bad press hurts us on the ground. One donor called me up and said, ‘I’m not going to give those guys any money.’ “
Mr. Dawson’s views of frustration and concern were echoed — often on background — by other top Republicans.
“The chairman of the Republican Party should be able to lead,” Alex Castellanos, an unpaid senior adviser to the committee, said in an interview. "And right now I think he’s lost the confidence and the support of the people he’s leading."
In one sense, there is little that Republicans can do about Mr. Steele. It takes a two-thirds vote of the committee to remove him. That is a fight few Republican leaders want.
And Mr. Steele has made clear he would not leave quietly — he strongly suggested at his party’s winter meeting in Honolulu his intention to seek another term — and the last thing Republican leaders want now is an internal fight that would draw attention away from Democratic problems.
Which is not to say that Republicans have not been acting. In recent weeks, a number of party officials — including Karl Rove, the former adviser to former President George W. Bush, and Ed Gillespie, a former chairman of the party — have set up an independent committee to help Republican candidates this fall. Top Republicans said they have advised donors to send checks not to the Republican National Committee but to the committees financing Senate and House candidates.
Mr. McKay’s dismissal was followed by the departure of Curt Anderson, who had been one of Mr. Steele’s top advisers. Mr. Anderson issued a statement supporting Mr. McKay.
On Tuesday, Sean Mahoney, one of three Republican National Committee members from New Hampshire, resigned, giving The Union Leader of New Hampshire a copy of a letter that excoriated Mr. Steele for the spending abuses. “The recent scandal involving R.N.C. funds being used to entertain a small crowd at a Los Angeles strip club is the straw that broke the camel’s back,” Mr. Mahoney wrote.
Faced with so many races in play, the Republicans cannot afford to have a drop-off in contributions. The strip club episode could turn off conservative voters. And the questions about lavish Republican spending undercut the Republican Party as it seeks to present itself as the party of financial constraint and good governance.
John Weaver, a Republican consultant, said Mr. Steele had been given a needed second chance with the shake-up.
“We’re not going into a presidential cycle without him facing a challenge,” Mr. Weaver said. “What he does in the next few months will decide whether he can survive that.”
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It is my opinion that Steele won the position for two reasons.. 1, he's black and 2, he's from a democratic state....
One of these days the republican leadership is going to have to realize that the republicans cannot beat the democrats at their own game.. adopting their stupid issues like bloated prescription drug programs is not the answer... and putting black people in positions of leadership is NOT going to make black people vote republican... enough already.
Put people in power who are going to espouse the things that conservatives find important.. reduced spending, limited social programs, low taxes, states rights, strong defense.. and the party will win elections... trying to be "democrats light" isn't working....
In short, build "the tent" around what you believe and invite everybody in that wants in.. but for God's sake, stop moving the freakin' tent in hopes of attracting new members.. because I used to be under the tent, then the tent moved.. I'm standing right where I was, believing what I believed but the tent is now over there.
I suppose the difference between you and me mac, since you claim to have been under the R tent once too before it moved is this.. from where I stand, I can't even see the D tent so switching to that tent just simply isn't an option.. as frustrated as I am with the Rs.. becoming a D and supporting its causes is just not going to happen..
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Here's a cut/paste from a post I made over at Politico, in a thread about this very subject:
This distasteful little story is exactly why it's folly to invest too deeply into one party or the other.
The minute you go "all in" for Dems or Reps, Libs or Cons, you get stuck with all the dumb, idiotic, hypocritical stuff that hangs off of all of them... then, you're forced (by your own past words) to defend stuff that even you don't like, just because another card-carrying member of Your Posse did something really stupid- and got caught. This endless cycle of "Us vs. Them" exists because of one thing- and one thing only:
They're all chunks of 98.6, for God's sake!
Ain't a one of'em clean and pure- because they're people, just like you and I... and people are no damned good, for the most part.
I LMAO at all the finger-pointing, name-calling and smug self-righteousness that goes on in this forum on the daily: both arch-partisans take equal turns gloating and rationalizing, based on the breaking news of the day. One day, it's libs gloating, next day, it's cons. The only thing that's really as consistent as their diehard affiliations is the flip-flop nature of the daily news. Face it, folks: there's an abundance of stupidity on both sides... and both sides harbor people you wouldn't want your family to know.
In other words: Neocon/Repub Hayterz shouldn't spend too much time gloating... it's only going to take another moment before one of your own embarasses you. Neocons/Repubs: it's your turn in the barrel. Live with the consequences of your "chosen ones' " indiscretions, and do what you must to clean house. I harbor no pity for either side when it comes to this kind of junk. Human Beings (on either side) should be better than this by now.
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That said, this one should be an extremely telling moment for the GOP, in regards to how they handle it... and it couldn't have surfaced at a worse time.
Anyone who thinks can understand that a political party which is out-of-office, the minority party in Congress, and facing shaky public approval ratings has an uphill climb ahead of itself. Revelations such as these only slow (or potentially stall) any hard-earned momentum that party may have going for it.
This time, Repubs have been hoisted upon their own petard, and it's entirely on them. They made political hay for 30 years by characterizing their opponents as the 'supporters of immoral lifestyles.' Now, after touting themselves for all that time as the Party of Family Values, this poorly-timed, exceptionally low-class little news nugget could be just the thing to drive many sincere "family values voters" away... and not necessarily to the Dems, either...just away.
Or maybe to a third party, which will need even good fortune than any current major party out of power to have its will represented.
And that would be a tragedy for this country, if you ask me. I believe most of the rank-and-file "family values" voters to be sincere, patriotic Americans... and an essential element in the multiplicity that makes this country unique. If they leave, we are all made weaker- no matter what our party affiliation or political bent may be. If I were a "FV" voter, and had thrown my heartfelt support behind the GOP for years, I imagine I'd be feeling pretty betrayed and disappointed right about now.
But... that's what happens, when you put your faith in chunks of 98.6.
Every. Single. Time.
My profile reads: Independant. Now, you see why.
Dems/Repubs? Flip sides of the same coin, if you ask me.
just sayin'...
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and putting black people in positions of leadership is NOT going to make black people vote republican... enough already.
They will never learn
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from where I stand, I can't even see the D tent so switching to that tent just simply isn't an option.. as frustrated as I am with the Rs.. becoming a D and supporting its causes is just not going to happen..
Is there a such thing as to vote for the best man for the job regardless what letter he has next to his name?
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from where I stand, I can't even see the D tent so switching to that tent just simply isn't an option.. as frustrated as I am with the Rs.. becoming a D and supporting its causes is just not going to happen..
Is there a such thing as to vote for the best man for the job regardless what letter he has next to his name?
no, because the system makes us filter down to 1 person per party, so your final choices may not include your premier choice.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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This distasteful little story is exactly why it's folly to invest too deeply into one party or the other.
The minute you go "all in" for Dems or Reps, Libs or Cons, you get stuck with all the dumb, idiotic, hypocritical stuff that hangs off of all of them... then, you're forced (by your own past words) to defend stuff that even you don't like, just because another card-carrying member of Your Posse did something really stupid- and got caught. This endless cycle of "Us vs. Them" exists because of one thing- and one thing only:
They're all chunks of 98.6, for God's sake!
Clem, I love ya, but I think you're wrong. I can go all in for the repubs without taking ownership of every stupid thing anybody with an R behind their name does. I'm an R because my personal beliefs more closely align with the stated message of the party.. virtually none of my beliefs are taken up by the Ds.. So if the leader of the R party spends a couple grand at a strip club.. why am I forced to defend it just because I have an R behind my name as well? i'm not forced to defend it, I'm not forced to condemn it, I'm not even forced to think about it...
Your ideas here Clem on how this stuff plays out, in my own humble opinion, are far MORE dangerous and are exactly what leads to a lot of the bickering and partisanship that we see... For instance, I'm an R... some high ranking R does something stupid.... so because he's in "my posse" I have to defend him thus making me just like him... that's bullcrap.
I'm an R because of the political ideals of the party (I won't get into how they have lived up to those ideals because that is a matter for a different thread)... not because I think those at the top, the middle, or the bottom of my party are perfect... my wagon is not hitched to those individuals, my wagon is hitched to the ideals of the party... as those change, so may change my wagon...
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I LMAO at all the finger-pointing, name-calling and smug self-righteousness that goes on in this forum on the daily: both arch-partisans take equal turns gloating and rationalizing, based on the breaking news of the day.
The only thing more funny that that is the self-righteous, self-professed independets who are just so much smarter than everybody else that they feel compelled to sit back and point fingers at both sides... when truth be told...
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Face it, folks: there's an abundance of stupidity on both sides... and both sides harbor people you wouldn't want your family to know.
There is an equal abundance of stupidity in the middle and among independents too...
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They made political hay for 30 years by characterizing their opponents as the 'supporters of immoral lifestyles.' Now, after touting themselves for all that time as the Party of Family Values, this poorly-timed, exceptionally low-class little news nugget could be just the thing to drive many sincere "family values voters" away... and not necessarily to the Dems, either...just away.
the leadership of the Repubs have been divorced, cheated, been caught in scandals, etc at times for that entire 30 years... and you think a couple grand at a strip club is going to create some mass exodus? C'mon, seriously?
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and you think a couple grand at a strip club is going to create some mass exodus? C'mon, seriously?
I just want to know why I wasn't invited ..... 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Well it was only a couple of grand...it wasn't like it was a couple of mil...so I am sure the guest list didn't quite make it down to us YTown...  
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
What's the use of wearing your lucky rocketship underpants if nobody wants to see them????
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With politicians, it is usually after the culprit is exposed (either party). Heck, I thought this was a special RNC recxXXruiting ad; lots of ideas in my head about stimulus packages, TARP's, and "too big to fail" headlines. These are not tax dollars at werk though, are they? 
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no.
the junket was funded by private moneys.
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