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Yeah Andy shooting those last two shots was weird. Lakers are at least shooting as bad at the free throw line as the Cavs right now.
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it reminded me of the finals game vs the spurs
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I dont mind the loss, but the one person that was on the floor at the end of the game that should NOT have been shooting in that situation was Andy.
Man he looked uncomfortable doing it also.
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it reminded me of the finals game vs the spurs
There was a smirk on the Chicago's coach's face after Andy's two shots. He got one over on Mike Brown. They left Andy wide open on both, initially. You could tell AV didn't want the shots, but what is he going to do? Reminds me of what Orlando does with JJ. They sag the defense and leave him the jump shot that he can't make them enough to be the guy that should be taking it.
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I agree. Danny Green cant even sniff the floor and I think he is a very solid roation guy, who probably would have started for us in 2005-2008. Boobie Gibson who was very important to the Cavs in 07 also cant even see the floor, which is amazing to me. Hands down the most talented team in the NBA, just a matter of putting it together.
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it reminded me of the finals game vs the spurs
There was a smirk on the Chicago's coach's face after Andy's two shots. He got one over on Mike Brown. They left Andy wide open on both, initially. You could tell AV didn't want the shots, but what is he going to do? Reminds me of what Orlando does with JJ. They sag the defense and leave him the jump shot that he can't make them enough to be the guy that should be taking it.
With the space they gave him I thought he should have tried to drive the lane before he pulled up, or at least got defenders to adjust to him so he could pass back out. there was enough time but I think he didn't know how much time was really left.
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windy says the vibe coming from lebron's camp should be great news for cavs fans everywhere http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/04/will_lebron_james_stay_with_th.htmllook, this is probably nothing more than a result of a slow news week when you're the cavs top beat writer. almost the entire rotation has been shelfed, the top seed has been in hand for a week. but i definitely put more into windy's sources than i do stephen a's, or jalen rose (who seems to have changed his tune) i still think the guy's decision has not been made, i think his focus is on right now, which is only fair to his coach, teammate, and the fans. but i think there are way too many positive factors on the side of staying for him to go. something absolutely horrible would have to go down.
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way to throw in the towel there Brown. I can't stand the way he's handled this resting players for the last 3 years, its obvious it don't work. and there is no reason lebron should have 3 games in a row off. Jordan never took games off. You don't back into the playoffs which is exactly what we are doing. Don't like it at all. You can still get your players rest and still keep them sharp. Reduce their minutes, that atleast keeps them in the right mindset. Especially on your last home game, you have a chance to make a statement against a potential playoff opponent that has owned you, and you get up big on them without lebron shaq and parker then you start with the most ridiculous rotations i've ever seen. Then when the game is still in reach mo, jamison, moon, and williams go to bench and never come back. I'm all for rest, but there are better ways to do it than mike brown has done.
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I guess I am in the minority in that I dont even want to see Jamison and Mo out there. I love that we're giving players rest. Really like the way Brown has handled it, esp when James came out and said he wanted rest.
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i think it has no bearing on the post-seaoson, come saturday, the cavs will be ready.
i think mike is doing this because it's pretty evident that our first round opponent won't be presenting much of a challenge. toronto even with bosh can't beat us, and chicago barely beat us the other night with a bunch of guys out.
had this been charlotte slotted 8th, a team that is 3-1 against us, coached by larry brown, and led by steve jackson? i think probably plays the guys more.
i have no problem with it. it sucks because these games are borderline unwatchable, but after seeing what happened to andrew bogut and chris bosh, why take the chance?
lebron got a week off earlier in the year, and a week off now, that bodes well.
shaq has had time off. really the only guy who hasn't had a ton of time off is anthony parker and he got a well deserved game off today.
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Lebron is really the only one who got any rest... Shaq is injured Mo got a night off AP got a night off other than that we are giving our depth more playing time. I am all for it too. One never knows what could happen in the Playoffs and we need to make sure our depth can play if we need them
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i think the starters will probably be mo-parker-lebron-jamison-shaq but i see jj getting huge minutes if it's chicago...
bulls and toronto actually playing right now,bulls up 7 in the 2nd
bulls have boston and a road game in charlotte the next night
toronto is in detroit tomorrow and finishes up with the bricks on wednesday at home
regardless i don't see either series with the cavs going more than 5.
it really seems like the path to the championship is going to be chicago/toronto, boston, orlando, and probably the lakers.
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Went to the game today.. both teams treated this like a scrimmage. Meaningless. One thing tho.. the Cavs really did the Fan Appreciation Day in a big way. I cannot tell you how impressed I was when I got my free gift bag. It waz top notch stuff.. 3 coupons and a box of Kraft Mac and cheese. 
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What were the coupons for? 3 free Nets playoff tickets?
As for these last few games....
I don't have a problem with Brown resting players, although I think he is going a little overboard. I can't see him learning much, if anything, from these rotations he's putting out there. What has been frustrating to me is that his defensive message is getting lost on the guys that are playing. I don't care if they lose 80 to 65 in these games as long as they are playing defense.
Finally, if the Cavs come out and do lay an egg in the first game, I DO NOT want to hear about "rust" or "not playing together". My head will explode.
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Just thinking a little outside of the box here. What do you think of a starting lineup of Mo-LeBron-Jamison-JJ-Shaq?
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Just thinking a little outside of the box here. What do you think of a starting lineup of Mo-LeBron-Jamison-JJ-Shaq?
if matchup wise, you can pull that off, that lineup is borderline unstoppable.
although i would worry a little bit about lebron and his fouls, because you really don't have a backcourt defender outside of him, jamison can't guard a solid 2... if you're up against kobe, you may not be able to run that for the majority of the game. but offensively, it's really good.
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Van Gundy: LeBron Will Win MVP Every Year Until He RetiresApr 12, 2010 6:15 AM EST Magic coach Stan Van Gundy offered his opinion on the MVP race with a hint of sarcasm on Sunday afternoon. "You know how the vote's going to go. LeBron (James) will win the MVP every year until he retires," Van Gundy said. James is the reigning MVP and front-runner to take home the award this year as well. "LeBron has to go into the year and basically lose the MVP. You guys have decided he's the MVP," Van Gundy added. "I don't even know if Michael Jordan was as hyped as he is, and then [James] goes out and exceeds it." Van Gundy continued, saying that fans and media "view players primarily as scorers ... and view most everything else as secondary. "[Defense] doesn't translate into MVP voting. People look at it as it's not as important ... I don't understand that." web page Van Gundy at it again!
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Just thinking a little outside of the box here. What do you think of a starting lineup of Mo-LeBron-Jamison-JJ-Shaq?
AP stretches the floor more and unclogs the middle. W/ JJ, teams would sag on Shaq like Orland did earlier in the year. JJ would need to knock down mid range jumpers for it to work.
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It's just like Peyton Manning. If the MVP truly meant Most Valuable Player, meaning who is the most valuable to his teams success, no one else would ever win. And, Peyton Manning would have about 8 MVP's already.
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Yeah, I think LBJ is both though, Most Valuable to their team and the best player in the L. Just thought it was funny that Van Gundy was running his mouth yet again.
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Valid point. Like I said, I don't know if I was coaching if I'd actually have the "guts" to make a move like this. But, as a fan, it's something to think about.
For it to work, you'd need a lot of things to go right. You'd need Mo and LeBron to shoot very well. You'd need Jamison to knock down some jumpers, too. You'd need JJ to step out to the free throw line for some jumpers, like you said.
Like LBJ said, against a team like LA, you don't want this lineup, because that puts LeBron on Kobe, which uses a lot of his energy defensively.
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yeah, you just can't have lebron guarding kobe the whole game. not in this era of basketball. too easy to pick up cheap fouls, but 4th quarter, crunch time, if lbj only has 1-2 fouls, then i think you can really use that lineup if you wanted to.
i can definitely see mike brown using that lineup in spots, but exclusively, it would be very very hard.
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i don't want to post it, because i don't want the board gods to strike upon thee a ban of 3 days, but a former orlando setinel writer has said he is going to take away his vote for lebron for mvp because he, wait for it...
sat out 3 games in a row after the cavs had everything wrapped up.
this whole dwight howard mvp chatter cracks me up.
dude, he doesn't even average 20 points per game, there is more to the game than scoring, but the object of the game is to put the ball inside the basket. he has good numbers and he's a hell of a defensive presence, but anyone, including his idiotic coach, who tries to justify him winning the mvp is completely biased.
i am a cavs fan, we all are cavs fans, but it is pretty much a leaguewide consensus that lebron has this thing locked up and i honestly think this orlando press folk want to ensure lebron doesn't get a unanimous mvp.
what a joke. i can't wait until we play them.
this guy, mike bianchi (probably the worst nba writer out there right now)
the other thing is, i am tired of people whining about the fans not getting their money's worth. you damn well know that near the end of the season there is a good chance that stars are not going to play.
and on top of that, i don't think many cavs fans, if any, with the exception of leadtheway, are mad that lebron didn't play, all cleveland fans' eyes are on one thing right now.
same thing with the colts. i think most fans were perfectly fine with peyton manning not playing, why? because they want their team to get to the super bowl.
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Thats embarrassing for the Orlando Sentiel, Magic Fans, Sports Writers, and the NBA.
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lol...its funny. Short of backing out of the driveway, hitting a fire hydrant and getting beaten with a basketball by his GF, what could LBJ do so badly in the last week of the season that would negate everything else up to this point? 
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nothing.
this is all about wanting their guy to win, and with that having zero chance of happening, ruining what would be quite an accomplishment of getting a unanimous vote for league mvp.
but here's the thing, there is part of me that hopes this guy goes through with this. and lebron hears about it. and they meet the magic in the playoffs, and lbj might have that little bit extra motivation.
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Ian Thomsen resents that remark. He has spent years on his reputation for you to try to sully it in one fell swoop is an insult to his incompetence.
oh, and I actually like the Dwight Howard for MVP gripes. You don't realize how dominant LeBron really is until you see the petty things people have to come up with to justify NOT voting for him.
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If it wasn't for the fact LeBron is not human you could make a case for Dwight. However I'd give it to Durant still over Dwight.
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Any real Orlando (or Durant) fan worth his salt wouldn't even argue this.
Writers printing garbage, again, just to make a sale. That's all.
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Works fine for me ... any Orlando writer that wants to give Lebron that extra little motivation to completely kick the crap out of the Magic when we meet up with them is okay with me. It's not like one vote is going to make a bit of difference ... Lebron will still win in a landslide, the Magic writer will look like a douchebag homer, and Lebron will have some bulletin board material.
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j/k
Give the MVP award to Howard, Kobe, Durant, or even Reggie Miller. Heck, give it to Cheryl Miller. The MVP award in the regular season is the most meaningless award across every league.
I want my teams to win titles and MVP for the Finals/WS/Super Bowl. That means you're great. Regular season awards are forgotten 45 seconds after their handed out.
Actually, I was hoping Howard would get the thing. It would maybe tick Lebron off.
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I just saw this...maybe this is old news to others: Shaq cleared to play in regular season finale
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INDEPENDENCE, Ohio -- It may have appeared that Cleveland Cavaliers coach Mike Brown's worst nightmare came true Monday when LeBron James was carried off the court following practice.
But it was just the usual Cavs antics: James had been playfully stuffed into an equipment bag and taken off the floor by teammates Jamario Moon and Leon Powe, among others. Brown has held James out of the past three games to avoid injury since Cleveland has already clinched home-court advantage throughout the postseason.
Now he's reconsidering.
Shaquille O'Neal has been cleared to return, leaving Brown to wonder if his two stars should play together in Wednesday's finale at Atlanta before the playoffs start over the weekend.
"They probably wouldn't play the whole game on Wednesday, so are we going to be that much better because they played 20 minutes together?" Brown said. "Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I keep going back and forth."
James doesn't care whether he plays against the Hawks. He has enjoyed the time off and will meet with Brown and his teammates before a decision is reached.
"I'm ready for the playoffs right now whether I play on Wednesday or I don't," James said. "I'll see how the guys feel and go from there."
The Cavaliers have made major adjustments to their starting lineup twice this season -- both spawned losing streaks. They lost their first two games of the season while working in newcomers O'Neal, Moon and Anthony Parker. They lost their first two with Antawn Jamison after he was acquired from Washington at the trade deadline.
Cleveland doesn't have time for extended losing streaks in the playoffs while working O'Neal back into the rotation. The starting lineup Cleveland plans to use for the playoffs -- Parker, James, Jamison, O'Neal and Mo Williams -- was together for just three full games before O'Neal tore a ligament in his thumb on Feb. 25.
"At the beginning of the year with Shaq ... and at the trade deadline with Antawn, I'd never had the chance to coach or have the feel for them come game time," Brown said. "At least this time, I've gone through it with everybody. I feel more comfortable about it.
"It may take a little bit of time or an adjustment period, but I don't think it'll be what it was before."
O'Neal's right hand was taped Monday as he left the court without speaking to reporters. James said during Sunday's national telecast between the Magic and Cavaliers that O'Neal has lost 20 pounds during his time off.
"He won't be in game shape," James said Monday. "He's in shape, but it's totally different from being out on the court. But he's ready to go."
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Writers printing garbage, again, just to make a sale. That's all.
this isn't even about who you think deserves the award. if you wanna make an argument for dwight or durant, that's all good, that's your opinion.
but it's his reasoning, because he sat out a few meaningless games? after what transpired over the last 7 days with chris bosh and andrew bogut?
people like that shouldn't be allowed to vote.his credibility is so low i think he probably deserves a baseball hall of fame vote too.
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Sooooooo, are the cavs playing this Saturday or Sunday? Any guesses?
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my guess is this saturday afternoon.
it's not a huge matchup, but it is lebron and the cavs versus a big market.
although i've been hearing bulls fans say this is gonna be a series based on what happened with boston last year.
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I doubt that we'll be playing Chicago. http://www.nba.com/news/playoff.scenarios/index.htmlChicago will be seeded: • #8 if Bulls win twice OR Bulls win once and Raptors lose. Toronto will be seeded: • #8 if Raptors win and Bulls lose once OR Bulls lose twice. Chicago plays Boston tonight, and Charlotte tomorrow night on a back-to-back. Toronto plays the Knicks tomorrow. Basically, if the Raptors win, we get them.
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