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Tea Party Protesters Criticize Obama's Space Plan
Tea party activists demonstrated outside the Kennedy Center on Thursday while President Obama addressed NASA workers. The protesters accused the president of not providing NASA with a clear direction and a specific mission.
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President Obama's NASA address comes, as it happens, on April 15th, tax day. It's an important day for the Tea Party movement. Members are holding demonstrations today across the country. One of those demonstrations took place today outside the main gates of the Kennedy Space Center.
But as NPR's Greg Allen reports, the Tea Partiers were focused more on NASAs future and jobs than they were on the issue of taxes.
GREG ALLEN: They were lined up on both sides of the highway leading into the Kennedy Space Center, with their own disc jockey and sound system. People in passing cars honked and waved. Don Forward(ph) of the Titusville Patriot Group wouldnt guess how many Tea Partiers were expected.
Mr. DON FARWARD (Titusville Patriot Group): Oh, I dont know. We got them all the way from the Villages to Tri-County. Weve got space coast, weve got Malburn(ph), weve got people from the Edgewater group. So, weve got pretty good representation down here today.
ALLEN: The target of their demonstration, President Obama, didnt come this way. He arrived on Air Force One on the shuttle landing strip inside the space center. Nearly every demonstrator carried a sign, sometimes two. And there were a variety of messages. There were the impassioned but generic Tea Party slogans: our liberty and freedom at stake. There were birthers, some holding signs questioning Mr. Obamas U.S. citizenship. But Forward said he was trying to get his group to focus today on a single message.
Mr. FORWARD: Today its about saving space coast job.
ALLEN: Sign said: stop the war on success. And: NASA takes us up, Obama takes us down. Connie Smith(ph) with Space Coast Patriots, said she was mad at the president and at Congress for not providing NASA with a clear direction and a specific mission. She said she didnt have a problem reconciling her Tea Party beliefs with her support for more NASA spending.
Ms. CONNIE SMITH (Space Coast Patriots): Now, some people might say this is an entitlement program. But the space center provides so many more benefits than any entitlement program. We get tons of technology, tons and the high paying jobs that come out of here. What high paying jobs are we getting from Cash For Clunkers?
ALLEN: Although hes scaled back, all but canceled the Constellation manned mission program, President Obama has actually increased the NASA budget. And after the outcry about the Constellation, Mr. Obama has proposed pumping more money into the Kennedy Space Center, with programs that the White House says will add some 4,500 jobs. Like much the president says, Don Forward says he doesnt believe it.
Mr. FORWARD: Im skeptical. I dont think its going to be theyre virtual jobs, you know, its nothing. And this is not going to help the people its going to be a lot of engineers and stuff like that, its not going to help the day to day person who works out at the cape, actually making the cape run, I dont think it is.
ALLEN: Connie Smith said she hoped Democrats in Congress and others here wouldnt be swayed by a few extra dollars, what she called bribes, that may ultimately not help workers or the economy.
Ms. SMITH: This area is a Republican area. You know, I can be conspiratorial and say, is he trying to crush this area? You know, you can look at it like that.
ALLEN: There were certainly no supporters of President Obama to be found among the Tea Partiers outside the Kennedy Space Center today. But I found one person, retired space worker John Schnieder(ph), who had this admission to make.
Mr. JOHN SCHNIEDER (Retired space worker): I dont completely disagree with what hes done. I dont completely.
ALLEN: Schnieder said the president is right to outsource low-orbit manned space travel to the private sector and begin looking to missions beyond the moon. But thats something he says President Obamas plan lacks: a clear mission with a destination.
Mr. SCHNIEDER: We need a target. We need, you know, when John Kennedy said well be on the Moon in 10 years, we were. I mean, we did it. But it took a bunch of money. They, you know, they did not spare the horses when it came to money.
ALLEN: You heard it right in this case, Florida Tea Party members say what the country really needs is more government spending.
Greg Allen, NPR News, at the Kennedy Space Center.
It seems like they just protest anything Obama does. Really? The "space program" isn't getting enough money?
They complain that the space program is needed for techonogical progress, then complain that the money given to the program is going towards engineering instead of joe the plumber.
They say they want more money, then say they won't be bribed.
They suggest that Obama's NASA plan is to crush a republican area. Really? I mean... really?
Quite convenient that the TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY party wants to cut government spending... until they realize who's paying their salary.
Talk about "lacking direction."
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It seems like they just protest anything Obama does.
Yeah,, but they also seem to slam the right on a lot of issues..
They seem more militant than I'd like.. but some of thier ideas aren't the worst I've heard..
I'm just not liking any extremists.. Right wingers, left wingers, and the Tea Party (otherwise known as the wingless ones), islamic... what ever, they don't excite me...
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It's funny how the Tea Party was created now even though middle class taxes are the lowest they've been in decades.
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Do you realize that there isn't one unified Tea Party? These protests are set up locally with very little coordination. Also, anyone can attend and you usually get a vast difference in agendas.
As to Obama and what he proposed... It's not the same as his initial plan. He has revised it at least one time before because of criticism. Without specifics on anything his claims are pretty hollow. Regardless, this group is more worried about the jobs they will be losing because of the cancellation of their project.
I'm sure if you went to a Tea Party event somewhere else their opinions would be different. Bottom line is a large majority of these people are fed up with the outrageous increases in spending Obama has proposed. However, it's just not about Democrats. If you watched any C Span during the first Tea Party Events or Neil Cavuto on Fox you would have heard many Republicans/ conservative Independents upset with their Republican politicians. You would also have heard from Democrats that were upset with Obama and other Democrats.
Many Republican politicians have tried to build support through the Tea party events and that does get highlighted in the media as well as the whackos that you see with their outrageous signs. I sure wouldn't assume these are the majority beliefs of the people who are driving things.
As much as some of you on the left like to take digs on Palin you should realize she is a big asset for you. She already proved in New York that she will oppose Republicans who are not physically conservative and most likely cost the Republicans a seat in Congress. Hayworth in Arizona is loved by conservatives but Palin is going against him with her support of McCain. She seems to be a fan favorite at these events and she most definitely doesn't follow any party line.
All politicians better wake up. These people can really affect the power structure throughout the nation. The conventional wisdom is the the Dems will be slaughtered in the next election. I think that ant Republicans who are for lots of spending better beware. I know a few people who have attended events and they aren't opposed to voting against incumbent Republicans.
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I think you have no clue what you are talking about.
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It's funny how the Tea Party was created now even though middle class taxes are the lowest they've been in decades.
I'm middle class. I paid more last year than I did the year before. (in federal tax - let alone all the other taxes).
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It's funny how the Tea Party was created now even though middle class taxes are the lowest they've been in decades.
I think you have no clue what you are talking about.
And even though income tax rates may not be off the charts high, these nickel and dime taxes for anything and everyting are adding up.. I should make this my sig I say it so much, but if the average American could somehow know how much money they pay in taxes every year by adding up income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, and all of the hidden taxes in between.. we would have had the second revolution already.
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Do you realize that there isn't one unified Tea Party? These protests are set up locally with very little coordination. Also, anyone can attend and you usually get a vast difference in agendas.
A very good point Pdawg..
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ammo...the media is beginning to take a closer look at the make up of the tea party folks and it's interesting...their makeup is not that of the average working class Americans.
CNN poll of Tea Party reveals it to be dominated by white, highly educated, rich males
CNN has released the first poll which looks at the demographic aspects of the people who support the Tea Party movement. At times some liberals have accused Tea Party members of being dumb, older white people who are caught up in the anti-government fury. The poll reveals that some of these assumptions are true while others are not.
First let us look at the positive aspects of the Tea Party supporters. They are actually more highly educated that the rest of the population. 40% of Tea Party supporters said they had a college degree while only 28% of the rest of the population could boast of such an accomplishment. In addition the Tea Party is actually not dominated by older people anymore than the rest of the population. The age demographic of the movement actually matches up almost exactly with the rest of the nation. 20% of Tea Party supporters are under the age of 20 and 60% of Tea Party members are under the age of 50. So when we talk about the educated elite in America that description actually fits Tea Party members more than Democrats.
The bad news for the Tea Party is that Keith Olbermann appears to have been correct when he accused them of lacking diversity. Only 2% of Tea Party supporters were African-American compared to 10% for the rest of respondents. 80% of Tea Party members identified themselves as "white."
The other demographics of the Tea Party are relatively neutral. It should come as no surprise that Tea Party members earn a higher income than the average American. 34% of Tea Party respondents made over $75,000 compared to just 25% for the other respondents. Just 8% of Tea Party supporters made less than $30,000 compared to 28% for the rest of the population. This demographic helps to explain the Tea Party's opposition to welfare programs and health care reform as both tend to favor the poor more than the rich. The Tea Party was also more Protestant than the rest of the country (68%-50%) and also dominated by males (60%) as compared to females. Not surprisingly there were 0% of Tea Party supporters identified themselves as transgender.
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NDTU Mac since you never answer when people question you.. Quote:
The bad news for the Tea Party is that Keith Olbermann appears to have been correct when he accused them of lacking diversity. Only 2% of Tea Party supporters were African-American compared to 10% for the rest of respondents. 80% of Tea Party members identified themselves as "white."
Sorry, I don't see this as bad or good news. I will add that 71% of all respondents said they were white. Only 358 people of the 1023 people polled had a positive opinion of the Tea Party. 19% opposed and 45% didn't know enough to have an opinion. I'll let someone else do the math on how much of a difference it makes in the overall number of whites.
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The other demographics of the Tea Party are relatively neutral. It should come as no surprise that Tea Party members earn a higher income than the average American. 34% of Tea Party respondents made over $75,000 compared to just 25% for the other respondents. Just 8% of Tea Party supporters made less than $30,000 compared to 28% for the rest of the population.
Since more Tea Party members are more educated....
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hey are actually more highly educated that the rest of the population. 40% of Tea Party supporters said they had a college degree while only 28% of the rest of the population could boast of such an accomplishment.
Wouldn't stand to reason they would make more?
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I guess $75,000 is rich according to them? A stat that is not in here is that the percentage of people making $30-$50,000 is almost identical in regards to the average population.
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I don't know, maybe the opposition is because they find it a monumental waste of money? I have a friend that won't buy health insurance (he sells insurance for a living) because he finds it cheaper to have health savings accounts.
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Not surprisingly there were 0% of Tea Party supporters identified themselves as transgender.
This worries me a great deal...Why would this even be in the poll that was published?
Now some things that weren't posted in the story but linked to in the actual poll
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/02/17/rel4b.pdf
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It's funny how the Tea Party was created now even though middle class taxes are the lowest they've been in decades.
I'm middle class. I paid more last year than I did the year before. (in federal tax - let alone all the other taxes).
Same here.
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Just out of curiosity, where do I fit in?
I'm white. I'm educated. (BA in business, which, believe it or not, I got in 4 years, while also working and raising son at the same time).
I do not make $75,000 or above. I'm self employed. The closest thing to a tea party I've ever been to is when my daughter and I pack a lunch and go for a bike ride along an old railroad track that was torn out and turned into a hiking/biking path.
There's got to be a pigeon hole for me too, right?
Oh, I might go to a tea party tomorrow - if I can get done with my job early enough. But I have to get done, cause my wife (factory worker) and I are hanging out with a paramedic and his nurse wife, a truck driver and his factory worker wife, a plant manager and his wife that is in HR, and a factory worker and his longtime factory worker girlfriend.
Oh.....politically, we all agree. Of the 5 couples, only 2 couples are rich and white. (rich according to the $75,000 definition). The races of the others don't matter - since it doesn't matter to them - they all call themselves American.
I also have a rich, white brother - a very rich brother by the way - and he's as liberal as they come.
This is more directed at mac - I know you didn't try to "label" anyone, but mac, where do I fit in?
Oh, I know - I feel I pay too much in taxes.
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I'm middle class also and I paid way less taxes last year than the year before.. Of course, that kinda happens when you earn a lot less than the year before.
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It should come as no surprise that Tea Party members earn a higher income than the average American. 34% of Tea Party respondents made over $75,000 compared to just 25% for the other respondents.
I guess $75,000 is rich according to them? A stat that is not in here is that the percentage of people making $30-$50,000 is almost identical in regards to the average population.
I would guess that 75k a year is roughly the cut off of the 53% of people that actually pay taxes versus the 47% that pay nothing or receive more money than they actually paid in.
This only works if you regard taxes only as "income taxes". There are already multiple new taxes or fees associated with the health care bill, and more to follow if they get cap in trade in place. Not to mention if we continue to hit the corporate sector with taxes they will continue to simply pass those costs on to the consumer as well. It's not like they are going to let it affect their bottom line.
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I wasn't aware I'm a rich white guy. I don't feel rich... Quote:
I would guess that 75k a year is roughly the cut off of the 53% of people that actually pay taxes versus the 47% that pay nothing or receive more money than they actually paid in.
I need to sit down with a calculator and figure this one out as it appears there may be an opportunity here to take home more money by asking my company to lower my salary.
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It should come as no surprise that Tea Party members earn a higher income than the average American. 34% of Tea Party respondents made over $75,000 compared to just 25% for the other respondents.
I guess $75,000 is rich according to them? A stat that is not in here is that the percentage of people making $30-$50,000 is almost identical in regards to the average population.
I would guess that 75k a year is roughly the cut off of the 53% of people that actually pay taxes versus the 47% that pay nothing or receive more money than they actually paid in.
This only works if you regard taxes only as "income taxes". There are already multiple new taxes or fees associated with the health care bill, and more to follow if they get cap in trade in place. Not to mention if we continue to hit the corporate sector with taxes they will continue to simply pass those costs on to the consumer as well. It's not like they are going to let it affect their bottom line.
Actually, I am single and make right around $40,000 per year. This coming year would have been about $50,000 if i wasn't going to have to take time off for surgery and rehab.
I get the old bend over routine at tax time each and every year. Maybe I should just take 7 or 8 months off .... then my income would definitely fall in line with the level of the "Free money" croud ...... and i could get money for nothing and chicks for free ....
Wow .... 80s flashback. 
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I don't know, maybe the opposition is because they find it a monumental waste of money? I have a friend that won't buy health insurance (he sells insurance for a living) because he finds it cheaper to have health savings accounts.
Umm I sell health insurance for a living. For your friend to own a health savings account, he would have to have the Qualified High Deductible Health Plan to go along with it, or he had to have it at the time he put the money in the account, or he is screwed if he gets audited. You're not allowed to save money tax deferred in an HSA unless you have the QHDHP to go along with it.
Back to the topic - Tea Partiers are a majority of rich white people we have learned. We have also learned that rich white people are the minions of the devil and aren't allowed to organize in any fasion because it usually means hatred will be directed at some minority. Just nothing positive can come from rich white males.
Check out this link - clearly shows how rich white men treat black people at these so called tea parties (new names for KKK rallies) http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...omfortable.html
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I just can't believe the abuse! Oh the humanity! As an aside, and back to the original post ...... I want ALL government spending cut until we are living within our means. It would be painful ..... it would cause problems for some people ...... it might even create some economic upheaval ...... but in the end it would leave us with a stronger economic base on which to build. It''s like building a skyscraper. You can bulld it on sand ... but that way is doomed to failure and disaster as sands shift, and the building will topple. On the other hand, you can dig down to bedrock and construct from there, and you wind up with a rock solid construction that can last for generations. Right now we're trying to build the economy on sand. We need to build it on bedrock.
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I'm a little confused  ... What has your skin color or your income have to do with organizing and protesting here in America ??? Are only certain Groups / Nationalities / Color / Political or Religions allowed to protest ???
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OMG!!! 
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It's funny how the Tea Party was created now even though middle class taxes are the lowest they've been in decades.
ammo...the media is beginning to take a closer look at the make up of the tea party folks and it's interesting...their makeup is not that of the average working class Americans.
CNN poll of Tea Party reveals it to be dominated by white, highly educated, rich males
CNN has released the first poll which looks at the demographic aspects of the people who support the Tea Party movement. At times some liberals have accused Tea Party members of being dumb, older white people who are caught up in the anti-government fury. The poll reveals that some of these assumptions are true while others are not.
First let us look at the positive aspects of the Tea Party supporters. They are actually more highly educated that the rest of the population. 40% of Tea Party supporters said they had a college degree while only 28% of the rest of the population could boast of such an accomplishment. In addition the Tea Party is actually not dominated by older people anymore than the rest of the population. The age demographic of the movement actually matches up almost exactly with the rest of the nation. 20% of Tea Party supporters are under the age of 20 and 60% of Tea Party members are under the age of 50. So when we talk about the educated elite in America that description actually fits Tea Party members more than Democrats.
The bad news for the Tea Party is that Keith Olbermann appears to have been correct when he accused them of lacking diversity. Only 2% of Tea Party supporters were African-American compared to 10% for the rest of respondents. 80% of Tea Party members identified themselves as "white."
The other demographics of the Tea Party are relatively neutral. It should come as no surprise that Tea Party members earn a higher income than the average American. 34% of Tea Party respondents made over $75,000 compared to just 25% for the other respondents. Just 8% of Tea Party supporters made less than $30,000 compared to 28% for the rest of the population. This demographic helps to explain the Tea Party's opposition to welfare programs and health care reform as both tend to favor the poor more than the rich. The Tea Party was also more Protestant than the rest of the country (68%-50%) and also dominated by males (60%) as compared to females. Not surprisingly there were 0% of Tea Party supporters identified themselves as transgender.
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So you are a Negro female???
Who cares who these people are??
I am tired of white males being projected as Nazi's or some militia group.
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I would love to debate you except I have no clue what you are talking about. I talked to my friend (actually more like family) in California about this when I had to purchase insurance for my kids.
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I am tired of white males being projected as Nazi's or some militia group.
That's life... as a new card-carrying member of an official 'minority.'
Sucks to be "us," doesn't it?
"Porch Monkey/Spook/Lawn Jockey/ Tree Ornament/Thug/Lazy/Darkie/Half Dark/ High-Yellow/ Shiftless/Dishonest/Three-fifths of a Person/Mud Person/'N-Bomb'/'Half- N-Bomb'/'Brillohead'/Unprosecuted Criminal/Not ReadyYet/Primative/Not in my Neighborhood/Obsolete Farm Machinery/S#itskin/Not dark enough/Not light enough/Doesn't Know His Place/Uppity/Half-Breed/Ungrateful for the Things We Gave Him.... [ad infinitum]"
...and that's just me, one other Fellow American- in my own lifetime. Lord only knows what My Father faced... when I asked, he'd just get very quiet and look away from me.
I have a hot news flash for you, my (very) respected friend- everyone's tired of being hammered and disrespected.
Haven't you heard about the latest fashion trend, 'Peen? It's 2010. White's the "New Black."
Everyone gets his turn in the barrel.
That's life in the 21st c.
Welcome to the party.
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Fair enough.
So the plan wasn't ever to stop prejudice, it was simply to shift it?
I knew that though, as I think segregation is a natural human condition. With that various prejudice's arise.
I don't think a truly homogeneous society will ever be attained.
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Who cares who these people are??
I am tired of white males being projected as Nazi's or some militia group.
peen...are you asking me the questions above?
...you do understand, I did not write the cnn article, just posted it?
BUT..if you are directing your questions above, to "me"..
...maybe you can explain what black females have to do with the cnn article or me?
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There in lies the problem. You have no problem accusing Fox for bias, yet you use an article from a network that has daily private briefings with Obama's people. It is well known about these meeting so save your lame attempt to explain it away.
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There in lies the problem. You have no problem accusing Fox for bias, yet you use an article from a network that has daily private briefings with Obama's people. It is well known about these meeting so save your lame attempt to explain it away.
eryz...be more specific..what is it you disagree with, concerning the cnn poll results?
The findings of the CNN poll are posted...what do you disagree with?
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You are trying to imply that because most of them have jobs, are mostly white and make decent money that their intentions must be evil?
Although I haven't joined, I seem to meet those criteria and agree with the premise of "promoting the principles of fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government and free markets."
Here's what we're getting from your posts:
White = Racist
Upper middle class income = Rich
Fiscally Responsible = Greedy
Anti-Obamacare = Uncaring
Libs throwing my money at special interests = compassion
I'm a good, compassionate law abiding citizen. I donate to charity and volunteer my time. Surprise! I'm not an evil monster.
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I am not a Tea Party member. I did get invited to a County Tea Party on Saturday. I wanted to go, just to get a better feel for the whole thing. And, I understand Tea Party is a name at this point - some groups are different than others.
Alas, I was working, and couldn't make it. I'm trying my best to stay in the lower middle class. Or heck, maybe I'm even middle middle class.......geez, I might even be upper middle class for all I know.
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Give it time and the government will classify people making 50K a year rich and people making lows 20's solidly in the middle class..
The way it's going, people making any money are dirty scum.
The government is the new "company store".
Just come to us and we will give you housing, food, and health care for life....what more do you need?
And really, you don't need more.....unless you like good housing, good food, and good insurance.
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So you are a Negro female???
Who cares who these people are??
I am tired of white males being projected as Nazi's or some militia group.
peen...are you asking me the questions above?
...you do understand, I did not write the cnn article, just posted it?
BUT..if you are directing your questions above, to "me"..
...maybe you can explain what black females have to do with the cnn article or me?
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Same post, 12 hours later?
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My question would be... what is to be cut?
I have not seen any information out of the Tea Party that indicates what programs would be scaled back in order to lower taxes and/or balance the deficit.
When I hear some ideas, then I will listen, until then, they are just blithering idiots.
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You are trying to imply that because most of them have jobs, are mostly white and make decent money that their intentions must be evil?
Although I haven't joined, I seem to meet those criteria and agree with the premise of "promoting the principles of fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government and free markets."
Here's what we're getting from your posts:
White = Racist
Upper middle class income = Rich
Fiscally Responsible = Greedy
Anti-Obamacare = Uncaring
Libs throwing my money at special interests = compassion
I'm a good, compassionate law abiding citizen. I donate to charity and volunteer my time. Surprise! I'm not an evil monster.
jfan...wow...you boys are really paranoid...lol...
get a grip, will ya?
Jfan...I don't know what you are drinking today or anything else you may have indulged in but if you got all the above, from my one comment?...you need to take a break.
"ammo...the media is beginning to take a closer look at the make up of the tea party folks and it's interesting...their makeup is not that of the average working class Americans."
jfan...I did not write the CNN article...just posted it.
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Same post, 12 hours later?
jfan...you are really sharp today...lol... 
...and, for the second time, not replying to "you"...lol
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Jfan...I don't know what you are drinking today or anything else you may have indulged in but if you got all the above, from my one comment?
Try reading carefully....I said "posts", not "one comment". That's a far twisting stretch, even for you. 
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jfan...you are really sharp today...lol...
...and, for the second time, not replying to "you"...lol
Sharp enough not to make the exact same post 12 hrs later. Maybe obamacare will take care of that Alzheimer's problem you've got there. 
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I think the whole Tea Party thing had a chance to be a viable movement of integrity ... but it quickly turned into a joke.
There is a legitimate need for this sort of thing ... just not with all of the idiocy ... Sarah Palin, rants about 'socialism', questioning Obama's birthplace, etc.
All of that silliness has lent to these folks being given a bad name. And the core idea behind these movements shouldn't be given a bad name.
But in the end, I don't even know if the core idea is really there ... whenever I've talked to someone who identifies with the movement, I ask them about their feelings on massive defense spending ... lots of hemming and hawing.
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their makeup is not that of the average working class Americans
What exactly do you consider average?
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The findings of the CNN poll are posted...what do you disagree with?
The CNN poll is just about the only one with these findings. Rasmussen, CBS, Fox and a few others all see it different than CNN.
I have been to a "Tea Party" or two, and from a personal observation, the crap that CNN and MSNBC spew about the Tea Parties is just that, crap. They are using propoganda to discredit a true grass roots movement. When they use the term "teabagger" it just shows their lack of respect for the common man. That is a very direspectful term, and it was coined by a CNN commentator, Anderson Cooper.
My point was that you and many other on the left constantly try to discredit Fox news as a legitimate source, then you use reports from a network that is known to have daily meetings with Rahm Emmanuel. It is so obvious that you can find the same catch phrases on every one of the "connected" networks.
CNN is not a reliable source for anything political, and to say they are shows you buy into their bias. Fox news has it's biased "commentators", but they also have a good "news" division. There is a difference. Hannity is a commentator, Brett Baer is not. The news division reports news, unlike the propoganda that Blitzer spews. MSNBC, is just a total joke, there is no credible "news" coming from them, it is all commentary.
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